₦airaland Forum

handelex:
Lol simple eye test does it and 99percent of fans here agree on Fred's lack of quality with the ball.

One of the best passer in the team lacks quality on the ball? Because he no dey do leg over? Omo

handelex:
Well your opinion about Fred won't change so is mine unless he improves on the ball which is not likely to happen. Cheers to pastor Fred

Where are the stats oga?

handelex:

Nobody is blaming him for that, he's just trash on the ball, that's all.

Source: I no fit lie you

handelex:
You wan shift post to Maguire? Lol

Maguire has stepped up of recent but has Fred done so?

Fred is the major person holding that midfield. How can your midfield partner have 30 lesser passes every match and you still get the stick for what? Constantly among the best passer and highest possession in the team every match. But he gets blamed for one wrong pass because he doesn't score. Tom gets a pass because he scores but the midfield and team play is suffering. Is it because he's not a local boy? Bring any stat to support your claim that Fred has not been the one holding our midfield.

odizeey:
Where will he even play? He no fit score, he no fit assist. That midfield is his best bet.

If he play defense na own goal or decisions leading to goal.

He should retire and turn to pundit.

I blame Fred for winning that ball back. All these nonsense for no dey

Expert17:
Usain Bolt:

“I think Fred should not be in the midfield. I think he is lacking so much. He works hard, but he’s lacking passing and he gives away a lot of cheap fouls in bad areas"

Eph12
Odizeey

Nobody is talking about magwaya again? He shouldn't get out again? Lmao

odizeey:
I want to let eph12 know that Pogba is best.
And he should leave Fred alone.

Help me beg him. Pogba is king.

Lol Pogback

afrodoc2:
You sabi read before?

handelex:
The same applies to you too and to everyone here who likes abusing without reason.

Me likes abusing without reason? lol

afrodoc2:
I didn't even watch the match sef. Was talking in general terms about your attempt to drag Pogba in order to defend FraudFred.
O wrong nau!

Fred has scored 1 goal in 69 league games as a midfielder. O wa doubly wrong nau!

Any sensible manager will ban him from shooting unless the keeper is not in goal.

I stopped reading there sha

afrodoc2:
Thunder can never be confused. It should go straight to eph12 who had the temerity to compare FraudFred to Pogba.

Of course the one that made sure the ball was won back in that box doesn't get any recognition. It's the world we live in now

olabode89:
Sometimes we don't appreciate what we have.

You should meditate on this your statement o

Pogbooooom

odizeey:
Pogboooom even win player of the tournament. Na him give us the trophy.

When those men dey today?

Those men dey same thing with pogboom o. Nobody dey see them again

odizeey:
We win Europa na.

Most of the men wey win am don comot. As dey comot, pogboom flop o

odizeey:
Eph12 sef know the truth. E just dey pity the guy.

Fred na fraud

Omo before Fred came, where we dey with pogboom?

airmark:


Even Eph12 no understand wetin Tekno dey spit.

Lol I have removed my hand from tekno matter

airmark:


Eph12 come and analyse Tekno's Skeletun's lyrics to me abeg.

Phantom ye ye ye yeah
Phantom dey here so we say getti pago getti pago getti pajumo getti pagodo am in the pago getti pago
See e don tey wey we dey shayo e don tey wey we dey shayo
See e don tey wey we dey manya o e do tey wey we dey manya
Since 1960 ye ye ye e don tey wey we dey shayo
Since 1930 lo lo lo e don tey wey we dey shayo
E dey do keletun keletun keletun keletun keletun keletun
E dey do your body skeletun skeletun skeletun skeletun skeletun skeletun
E dey do kelepu kelepu kelepu kelepu kelepu kelepu kelepu
E dey what e dey do skeletun keletun keletun keletun keletun keletun

I don't know this one. Sing am make I hear

Skimpledawg:
You be better maduman




Cassava kill you there

Just love yourself the way you are. I promise you, you'll find someone that will appreciate you just the way you are

Skimpledawg:
Ephraim, which Tekno? The one who made a song about big cassava?

You can't relate ni?

Emaprince:
Omo, I don't know why I am finding it hard to see what the fuss is about fire boy. I really don't get moved by what he sings or says. I don't know his songs too..well, thats cos I don't care.

Wizzy used to be good in his early days just like 50cent in early 2000s. These days, I can't even name one of WizKids song. I don't know them, I don't listen to them. Dude just relaxes too much and dish out music with the same baby girl this, baby girl that. Baby give me this, baby give yansh.

I respect davido because of hard work. I believe he works hard enough because he is the type to be written off when he was upcoming due to his gruff voice. He rhymes too...not great but he dey try. I hate fem. Don't know what the fuss is about.

One Nigerian musician I see as too talented is pato ranking. That guy has NO bad song ever!!!

Pato is my guy anyday anytime

Nigerian artists songs stopped impressing me few years ago except Pato and tekno

afrodoc2:
The people asking Martial to leave is it a crime to have Martial, Rashy, Greenwood, Haaland, Amad?

We need to develop depth in quality like City.

Unless we're ready to put everyone on same or similar salary. Martial can't be collecting that amount and others will be doing the work. It's only a matter of time before they start to protest

But what are our midfielders and attackers expecting when James go down the byline? If not to do a pull out, what else? Nobody is bursting their lungs to get into that 18, almost like they prefer him to pass back. It's annoying

afrodoc2:
There was a time Rashford bent down and was breathing through his mouth and Amaka was watching him like a wicked step-mother.

Norwegians tough!.

I thought he was going to be replaced after that.

afrodoc2:
[b]Yes but most of these teams have better players in that position than McFred. [/b]That is why people were asking for Ndidi/Pogba/Bruno or Partey/Pogba/Bruno.
It is not like Pogba would have no defensive responsibility but Pogba is superior technically to McTom and Partey is superior technically to Fred.

We need better players in that position. Defensively McFred are on point but the build up play from that CDM area is too ponderous and one dimensional. This particular issue is a major major problem in our team.

It seems i don't understand your point sha.

No arguments there

But when we see 2 CDM all over the place, its like as if both just sit there and not add bodies to the attack which is not quite correct. Just that we could do with more creative player as part of the 2 CM. Not that we have 2 CDM. Anyways doesn't look like we will agree on this so I get you sha

afrodoc2:
20 PASSES PER GAME.

They both have defensive duties but McTom has more license to move forward. This is obvious to everyone. I don't understand what you are arguing about.
When we play Matic and Fred, Matic stays back and Fred has more license but it does not mean Fred has no defensive responsibilities.

If you watch our games and you think McTom has no defensive responsibility i am happy for you.

I don't see many teams out there if they even exist at all who don't have this same set up. Even the Partey/Ndidi don't sit alone without a second midfielder that must drop back to assist in the defensive duties.

afrodoc2:
Those 2 are doing one man’s duty. They combine to do the defensive duties of a CDM but struggle to carry out his creative duties.

In terms of the passing discrepancy it is a difference of 20 passes over the whole season but McTom makes up with the gap in terms of goals scored.

The truth is they are both not good enough for our goals and objectives. At least not as regular starters. They should both be squad rotation players.

Looking at EPL site, I see a difference of 300+ passes.

Scoring goals does not make up for anything if we claim they both have defensive duties of a CDM and our defense still find it difficult to handle some basic pressure or beat the press. Maybe Tom isn't on defensive duties as we think since his goals is what we have to point to every time

afrodoc2:
Fred plays deeper and McTominay plays more advanced so Fred should normally have more passes cos he is the one meant to dictate play while McTominay does the forward running.

Having said that McTominay sometimes hides from passes in difficult areas because he doesn't trust his own technique while Fred sometimes makes himself available for passes he should not be making himself available for because he overrates his own technique.

timay:
Fred is usually the deeper midfielder in charge of recycling possession. Tom is the one with the license to go higher up, and the higher you go up the pitch, the lesser your touches

The gap is just too much. Almost 30 passes more. Even Bruno had more than him

To beat the press and pass from back, the team needs as many players as possible coming deep to receive the ball. Probably why we are struggling with that

How is Fred's total passes 92 and Tom's 66? Is it that Tom doesn't make himself available for a pass?

afrodoc2:
It has reduced recently. It is because he trusts that if he can get a shot off the keeper would be in trouble. He is now learning not to force things . He played very well in this last game. He, Shaw, Bruno, Maguire were our best players yesterday. He linked up the play very well against those giants in the crowded West Ham defense, created chances for others and was unlucky not to have scored hitting the post twice.
Imagine having a pass accuracy of 94.6% with 2 key passes as a striker in that crowded area..

Yeah he was immense against Westham. I hope the goals begin to drop in for him

KingAlabi:
We had the same number of shots on target as city

Meaning we attacked at least

Meaning we have better team, no?

afrodoc2:
Meanwhile Telles don enter one chance fully. Luke Shaw is actually currently our best player.

He can be pushed up to deliver crosses