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Prectega:
He should watch Kante to be sincere
We need someone like Kante behind Bruno and Pogba

Fred is a like for like replacement with Pogba, not Matic or Kante.

patrickmuf:
Yes it isn't. For his size, Lukaku really struggles with high balls...

Not exactly true. He struggled that period because he was low in confidence. Somebody that fans trolled like crazy. We're doing same thing now to some of our current players

Botfuss:
I think what patrickmuf and the likes are trying to say is: The season is over, what is Ole’s pattern? What is our tactics? That Is a very big question that needs an answer.


We need an identity. A pattern. You can clearly see how Chelsea wants to play. Same with arteta that took the job few months ago. Have our players been winning games with their own sheer brilliance all season?


Look at Chamberlain’s last goal against Chelsea, when last did our attackers have free space to score like that? When last did we score a tap in?

These are questions that beg an answer. What is Ole’s identity?

Bruno scored one like that against Bournemouth I think. Greenwood gave the assist

Leyqute:
Due to Soyuncu’s red card, Leicester have been playing with 3 CBs. Fortunately for us, they’re all slow and lack pace. The spaces beside and behind them can be exploited.

Rodgers went offensive against Tottenham and suffered massively for it.

If he does same against us, he’ll be toast. We only have to let him. But Olé might think otherwise.

If he does same for us we will be in trouble o. We've struggled against teams that run at us recently. I hope he does the opposite abeg

Leyqute:
A lot. A whole lot.

Pogba, Martial, Rashford.

We have accumulated the most points since the restart. And are in the top 2 since January.

Quite some progress. I can only question their work rate and mentality at the moment

afrodoc2:
Lol you want to drag him over the last couple of games?

Hehehe.

Someone who is obviously still suffering the ill effects of his head injury, likely has significant concussion symptoms.

If not for our desperate situation and the EPL’s lax health policy he would likely not even be allowed to play.
NFL would likely have forced him to sit out those games.

It’s like those who have been dragging Rashford unnecessarily since the restart don’t know what a stress fracture in the back can do to you.

Rashford has been measuring how many times he runs and even how fast he runs like someone measuring derica of rice. My hope is that he recovers from it.

Looks like injuries derailed our season a lot. Hopefully with a more improved squad with solid bench, we can do much better next season. We really need to put the fear of God into those smaller teams

afrodoc2:
Willians is good going forward. You can take that to the bank. Whether RB or LB.
However the same issues that i listed for Shaw also apply to Williams. The LB does not get the ball in time and with the right spacing.

Compare that with AWB who gets a couple of seconds to struggle to control the ball on the right because he usually has acres of space around him.

I watched Williams in the youth team for enough years to be certain that making overlapping runs is not his problem at all, defensive discipline and focus is.

Lol I'm not going to be dragged to AWB

If you insist others are to blame for William inability to go down to the byline whether inside or outside Rashford, well okay then. He has his talent, yeah, just haven't seen that confidence in the last couple of games. I'm not addressing his season in total, just last couple of games

afrodoc2:
You get agenda against Shaw.

First it was in the Maguire case now it is Rashford’s.

1) Shaw has actually been making more runs since the restart, just that the forwards have not been able to convert some of his passes.

2) There is less space for the LB to run to compared to the RB because almost all of our first team forwards apart from Greenwood prefer to be on the left, hence our team (and consequently the opposition) drifts and chokes up our left leaving acres of space for our RB to run into.

3) Even though Rashford’s game has altered a bit since his injury he still hugs the left touchline more than Greenwood on the right. Greenwood comes infield more giving more space for the RB.

3) Lindelof on the right passes the ball early to his RB and RW unlike Maguire who spends 7 days and 7 nights on the ball before WALKING towards them and THEN passing the ball.
Someone should tell slabhead that the ball moves faster than a human being.

It is not rocket science. Just a simple sturvs.

Shaw ke? I was referring to Williams. We were doing quite fine with Shaw and he should have had a couple of assists.

Leyqute:
E don be for una.

Lmao there's no running away from the wailing that's coming

Leyqute:
This is wrong. Rashford does not create space for his full back to run into. He usually hugs the wing, gets the ball, does a little tippy-tappy with it, and then passes back to the LB.

Martial has the same MO, but he is better with the ball on the wing.

Rashford has a blistering pace and it aids him in counters. However, M9 is no pushover in counter attacking football either. His pace is not bad and he’ll probably have the better end result than Rashy because he makes better decisions (instead of dribbling himself into a cul de sac).

The only area where Rashy really trumps him is in tracking back and helping the defense.

Passes it back to the LB because he's not making that run. There are enough spaces for the lb to run forward to jare.

Same way Maguire is moving forward and the lb is not moving too. At the end he has to pass the ball to the lb on the same line instead of a more threatening advanced position

Another polling booth

patrickmuf:
When you watch Liverpool, Dortmund and the likes press, you begin to ask yourself why our players can't do same. I don't know if it's down to the training or they're just lazy...

I think the coach has something to do with this

nihilistjnr:
Who cares if he has been key in the Henderson household?

Eph behave yourself before I call Vardy for you.

This vardy

nihilistjnr:
Nobody is underrating Henderson.

We are complaining about how Henderson won FWA award.


Do you want me to send you vn?

Hendo shouldn't be winning that, I no need vn for that. He's been key for lfc this season however

patrickmuf:
Eph12 and 96forever, I think it's down to the system. I noted here before when we had McTonimay and Fred in midfield that they're hardly go past the CM to press and it's the same thing with Pogba and Matic.

Ole should do we to coordinate our play, we need to press as a unit and attack the same way...

We the way these players gas out? I'm not sure they have the energy level required to press high up the pitch. Why that is, I do not know

nihilistjnr:
So if everyone is running for 90 minutes, why is it Henderson that was singled out...ahead of even Trent Beckham?

Stop it abeg. In terms of pure impact on a club's fortunes, KDB and Bruno Fernandes are those niggas. In terms of numbers KDB has to be that guy. It's not even close. KDB was the best player in the league this season

I've never said anywhere that Hendo is better than KDB. I've only said we underrate his contributions to the team success. How do you want me to type this again? Make I send vn?

96forever:
yea new Role and all that, but that’s not Pogba though.


The team is not really balanced to allow our most talented player play to his max ability.

What will make the team balanced? I thought the 'most talented' player is supposed to be the one to make the team tick and not the other way round?

BlueMann:
Like someone said, they're style of defence is a high intensity counter pressing. Lampard is trying to implement the same tactic at Chelsea, but obviously the team still has a lot to learn.

Point is, Liverpool midfield don't get dominated because of the counter press. And if you're talking out and out defense in that midfield and conducting play, some people would rate Fabinho higher.

Don't get me wrong, Hendo was great this season. But the best player in the League this season? Seriously?

Nuff said abeg

Do you know what it means to implement that system? Everyone has to be running the whole 90 minutes, then do that over 30+ games. If you think the midfield has a little or no huge role in this, I can't help you.

I'm not saying Hendo deserves the best player award, I'm just saying we underrate his contribution, mostly because he's English

swiz123:
It's funny how the EPL best player can't even make Madrid first 11, even at his best form..

But they can beat Madrid first 11, no?

LostMyZeal:
Lool...you said since the restart na

From midfield. He's not been too adventurous like he used to be

LostMyZeal:
he actually announced his return with his magic in that tottenham game
he did Eric Dier dirty and that led to the equaliser

And?

patrickmuf:
Okay, I didn't think it was necessary to include those games because I expect us to win those games.

What games do you not expect us to win?

patrickmuf:
You obviously didn't understand my point of view, you made a post implying that we have closed the gap on our rivals post COVID-19 which in turn means we have improved. In response, I made an attempt to have you see things from another perspective; have we improved or have other circumstances aided our course?

If we looked at the games we have played, you'd see that the only impressive result we posed was that 3 nil victory against Sheffield United at a point they were still struggling with form. The other top team we played, Spurs, we drew...The other games are games we should easily win so, what exactly is the hype about the team about?

This is what I responded to here Patrick. I was trying to remind you about other games, not just the Sheffield game. I am not countering your other points

patrickmuf:
I didn't want to talk about Bournemouth and Aston Villa as those are two winnable games.

Why? Aren't they all winnable games? Or you want to talk about only the ones we dropped points?

patrickmuf:
You obviously didn't understand my point of view, you made a post implying that we have closed the gap on our rivals post COVID-19 which in turn means we have improved. In response, I made an attempt to have you see things from another perspective; have we improved or have other circumstances aided our course?

If we looked at the games we have played, you'd see that the only impressive result we posed was that 3 nil victory against Sheffield United at a point they were still struggling with form. The other top team we played, Spurs, we drew...The other games are games we should easily win so, what exactly is the hype about the team about?

We had a good game against Bournemouth too. We were almost undone by some stupid individual mistakes

sylvalord:
Same way Ole will shut a lot of people up.

Amen o

GloryIsaac:
Klopp really shut a lot of people up with his trophies. The same man they asked for trophies from now has a UCL and an EPL (after the club had to wait 30 years) to his name.

Yeah he did and I'm glad he did

Sniper4real:
If U want pogba start dribbling like b4, let him play the left side of the pitch. You'll c that keeping tinz simple go hard for him.

That right side he his now limit his dribbling and helps him keep it simple

So this is why we haven't been seeing him trying to beat one more player since the restart? You sure?

sylvalord:
Pogba can’t play in that 10 position. He doesn’t react quickly enough and he is not fast enough. To play 10 in Epl, you need more than creativity. You need to cover a lot of ground and Pogba can’t do that.

With two hardworking midfielders behind him, I still believe he can do a good job there if played consistently.

pyrex23:
if you give him captain of the season. no problem.
but footballer?.. get off it..

You no know ball

donjazet:
Because jurgen kloop employs a collective high press system dubbed gegenpressing that requires the whole players to press the opponents into surrendering the ball. It doesn't rely solely on the DM for ball recovery.

Show me a team that depends solely on the DM for ball recoveries

pyrex23:
as an forward your job is g/a
as a CMF/DMF there are stats that shows your effectiveness in every game..

kante was the best DM(and there are lots of stats to prove that)that year..

but what stats does Henderson have exactly? that he's a captain?

Who was better than Hendo in LFC midfield?
LFC midfield hardly gets dominated. Almost never. Why is that?