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ChristoBam:
So what's your point now? Mason Mount doesn't score goals and doesn't create?
What's with this amnaesia y'all are suffering from.

3 years ago is what you're still dreaming about? An English player for that matter

ChristoBam:
Obviously when you've got money, there are a lot of players available.
No money was made available for a striker in January. Reason we were considering a Felix loan deal. But we had to settle for Weghorst because Felix was expensive.

How much did Jackson cost Chelsea? Which other striker has moved this season aside Kane and how much did they cost?

ChristineC:
the club hierarchy is laundering money. there has been numerous examples and timelines of a recurring theme when it comes to transfers with different managers at Man United even on these pages.
I have done a brief analysis of this theme under Ten Hag because it's recent memory.
if you still can't see through these fraudsters, I guess it is what is then.
LvG was clear on that after he left, even told Ten Hag that Man United is a commercial franchise no longer a football club. Jose was clear on same while still an employee. Ole did a yesman for obvious sentiments.
writing figures doesn't tell even half the story. some make submissions insinuating that the manager negotiates the fee on these players. I don't get it.

This is where I expect ETH to protest because his integrity and legacy is at stake. The club will leave him drained and he will start to doubt himself if what you say is still happening now. At the end of the day, everyone's time would have been wasted

odizeey:
This is true.

In as much as I am a fan of trophies, I also want us to play like a team that has direction. Ten Hag should order the steps of the team.

I don't think he'll be sacked if he does well on the field even without a trophy.

He won't. I'm sure the management is ready to give him 5 years as long as the club is going in a clear direction. With a clear direction, he should be rubbing shoulders with City after the 3rd or 4th year sef. We can wait that long as long as we see the visible growth, not one that will need you to see with your inner eyes

If we continue like this, we will end up replacing players after just 1 year. Or just continue to manage them because they were bought for huge money. We have gotten to a point that it should be very clear what the team needs. Not that we will still be asking for reinforcements in almost every position. By we should be saying an addition to the midfield and attack will take this team to the next level.

ChristoBam:
From what we've seen, y'all can never be patient without the results.
Imagine getting wiped at home back to back while trying to play beautiful football first. These curses on this thread will be overflowing.
An Arsenal fan came to tell you how terrible their football was for the first 2-3 years. Worst thing is they weren't even getting results with back to back 8th place finishes.

For ETH, it's all about the combination of both for now. And it's been working so far.

Throw this your imagination away, and imagine better thing

Leyqute:
How many top teams parade fresh academy players in their starting XI?

Garnacho is our best academy player right now. And we all saw how he performed when given the chance to be a starter for consecutive game weeks.

Not everybody is ready.

Even Greenwood, on top of his tremendous talent, Ole had to ease him in for over a year.

Cameo appearances, I’m fine with that , until they’re ready. Even with the right coaching, getting academy players into the first team doesn’t happen overnight. It takes time.

How did Garnacho perform in those games? Worse than Rashford? Or its just easier to drag him? Worse than Antony that was bought for 100m?

ChristineC:
so if he repeats top 4 and a trophy, you'd recommend he gets a life contract from the board?

And the team is still not playing as a team with clear pattern and have opponents thinking twice before committing players forward? We will continue to operate in the space between mediocrity and average

Leyqute:
Agree with you 100%.

But the last time I checked, football is still a results business.

Guess who will be sacked if their team don’t make top 4. Wolves? Brighton?

And do we want to have ambitions teams like Brighton and Wolves have or do we want to become the best team in the country? Are we competing with Wolves or are we competing with Man City?

And that's why we have outspent clubs like Wolves and Brighton with a very long gap. Does this not mean we should be better?

ChristineC:
"When" he flops and get sacked, it's alright.
we'd move on to the next manager and we point out another £400m while completing another 360.
you sound like this will be the first.
the fact is it will remain the same till we see some ambition from the board.
any manager that finds any spec of success with the structures setup by these owners should be knighted.
LvG, Jose and Ten Hag have done what they can with what they met on ground. Ole came very close occasionally, couldn't manage that extra bit.
let's see how far Ten Hag will go before getting the boot.
It's quite straightforward really.

Will 1 billion be enough ambition from the club? Within how many years should the club spend 1 billion? After how much can we begin to demand the team play like a team?

ChristoBam:
Imagine we sacrificed the League cup as per we dey prioritize competitions, we'd probably be trophless now.

I bet you'd feel better about that. Cuz the agenda against Ten Hag would probably be stronger.

I have told you want I want to see. I don't care about trophy less nonsense. I just want to know that with a year or two and some very clear additions to the team, we will contend with anybody. If we win a trophy today and we spend the next 4-5 years struggling, what do we gain? And its even mickey mouse cup we won, not the champions league o

ChristoBam:
Which brings us back to the issue of funds.
Hojlund alone wasn't going to suddenly get us scoring tons of goals. We need an extra person that can score and create. Reason we got Mount. We also need another midfielder, and this is where the lack of funds come in.

We'll have to settle for a loan option/cheap deal. Want to contend with City with this?

You got Mount because you need to score tons of goals? Mason Mount? Go and sleep please

ChristoBam:
Games we didn't need to play? Which kain talk be this.

Given we couldn't spend on a striker in January, who else could he have gotten in January?

Omo.....

Its only when it comes to Manchester United that we will hear there are no players in the market.

ChristoBam:
They prioritized competitions as a result of this. Problem is that was the best we've seen of Arsenal in yearrrrrs. Might be the best we'll see of them in a while. And they ended it trophless.

At least we have carabao cup

ChristoBam:
He was trying to get the team it's first trophy in 5 years.
Which means nothing to agendeists now. All y'all want is a new face. Everything else is useless.

Who cares about a carabao cup? What we want is to see that we're on the right path and closer to competing on the biggest stages. We don't have to be there yet, but we want to see we're getting there. Right now we're still talking about replacing some of the players he brought in just last year. Shey he didn't spend billions to make his Ajax team a force and play the beautiful game? What has changed? Just play the beautiful football first and every other thing that he needs to finally go shoulder to shoulder with City will follow

ChristineC:
Bruno had no sub and we had no CF to even begin with. what's your point?
Saliba doesn't have a substitute? them conceding or not has nothing to do with it.
both Varane and Martinez had long spells out.
we player about 20 more games anyways. you comfortably skipped an important factor.

Games we didn't need to play. He is lucky Tottenham had a very slow start, and LFC and Chelsea were useless last season. He should repeat the same this season.

We had no CF? He brought in his country man Weghost

ChristoBam:
This is actually the reason all of you are like this. It's PTSD. Y'all wasted 3 years under Ole. You guys totally believed he was the one. Turns out he wasn't.

As a result of this, y'all rush into negativity at any sign of a crack in the process.

Some of us were complaining long before everything finally scattered because like ETH, Ole refused to fix the core of the problem, which was a much stronger and better midfield. He went with McFred until he got sacked

Trevor012:
This was us begging bald head to rotate last season. That excuse won't fly

I remember this Nottingham game. It was a cup competition and we won the away game 3-0. This guy still refused to rest some of his top players

ChristineC:
you wanted him to start aluta in the pressers
do you have a football club in a top league he can manage next?

When he flops and gets sacked, he will struggle to get a job in another top club. Ask Mourinho

ChristineC:
the team that played twice every week till about 3 weeks after we left the Europa League.
we had a small squad and the team managed that feat. it's like people are quick to forget recent past these days. our players were practically run into the ground, what more expectations can we have?
some players have left that small squad and we have added 3 players. THREE! but £400m...
check the attached image to see how much more the team was stretched in comparison with Arsenal who had, and still has a larger squad.

He had a small team and was pursuing every cup? Was he trying to self destruct or what? I don't understand this his thought process

ChristineC:
the team that played twice every week till about 3 weeks after we left the Europa League.
we had a small squad and the team managed that feat. it's like people are quick to forget recent past these days. our players were practically run into the ground, what more expectations can we have?
some players have left that small squad and we have added 3 players. THREE! but £400m...
check the attached image to see how much more the team was stretched in comparison with Arsenal who had, and still has a larger squad.

Arsenal had a larger squad? Saka does not even have a substitute. Is it Odegaard? Was it not Saliba that went on injury and they were conceding goals left right and centre? What larger squad? Gabriel's substitue is Nketiah abi what's his name? Nketiah Is this the larger squad?

ChristineC:
Mount was a stupid move, so do we base our season on Mount being a stupid move?
let's say we settle for Mount being a Bruno sub, which he will eventually be, then what?
who are the options we have at CF, CM and CB?
I think it's telling if we are still counting on doctors from Jose Mourinho era as options at Manchester United in 2023.
our first and second choices at LB are out till December at earliest. if there's a problem with either wan Bissaka or Martinez, what do you think will happen to our season?

Your coach just said some days ago that we're well stacked in these positions you're mentioning here. So what changed?

ChristoBam:
Collapse after playing how many games per week up till that final? Abi una don quickly forget? You call it collapse cuz you were one of those drawn into the title talks.

We go into every home game confident no matter the opposition. It's the tough away games that needs to be worked on.

You can't wake someone pretending to be asleep. This was how Ole wasted our 3 years

ChristoBam:
Didn't we finish 3rd last season and win a trophy? People were even arguing United had better success last season than Arsenal.

So all of that's been erased because we've not started the season super strong?

Apart from City, everyone else has been shaky. So what's with the silly negativity.

You think what we need is to win a trophy and then collapse? Because that's what happened last season.

Do we even go into any match confident we will get a good display and win comfortably?

ChristoBam:
Aren't we? We've been better than every other team we outspent since ETH took over. Probably bar Arsenal. But Arteta's been building that team for years.

Or is there something I'm missing?

Hehehe you're missing something

With the right coaching, we can pick at least one Bruno deputy from the academy team, since Bruno doesn't even get injured.

We have Mainoo and Mount out injured and will be back soon right? So no panic. ETH should do his job and coach the ones available till Mainoo and Mount gets back. We currently have 6 midfielders, all collecting wages, at the club. Gore didn't do badly and with the right atmosphere, he can step in pending when the injured return.

Leyqute:
Elaborate.

City outspent us abi? That's fine dem pass us. What about those we have outspent? We should play better than them at least abi?

Leyqute:
The money we’ve spent this tw never reach Caicedo + Lavia. Or Kovacic + Gvardiol. And City just won the treble o. The same City that spent 400m on defense alone a few years ago.

Keep expecting Sheraton experience but your budget is too small for Umukuru Guest House.

We can't compete with City. But at least can we get the kind of experience that's better than Wolves, Brighton etc?

If he didn't spend money like a yahoo yahoo somebody, he will have enough to buy one more midfielder. At this point I don't even think the money is the hindrance here. He is not convinced about Amrabat and the foolish boy has exiled himself from his club

Oh our players are injured, ETH hasn't spent billions. He wasn't supported bla bla bla

engrelvis:
.Dnt write us off yet!

I'm not the one writing anybody off. They will write themselves off by themselves. Bruno will be there sulking and kicking air. Rashford won't be concerned. Casemiro will run into traffic until his legs become too heavy. Eriksen will not be able to match their physicality. And many more

Lana1:
Going a goal and a man behind, away from home, and this team is never making it back.
We fit even collect 4 more for our troubles

Without red card, we would have collapsed sef