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justwise:
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You are really misleading people. not cool.

justwise:
Tell that to people who don't jack about the system, marry 24/7 indeed

Lloydfolarin:
Why are you encouraging people to come to where their lives will be ruined without proper papers to work with?

I only asked you to upload your bank statement(cover your details) so as to prove to the people you are encouraging that life without papers is better than what is obtainable in Nigeria

How wld u they secure a job without papers?

How would they pay their rent and bills without a job?

Why would encourage someone to live at the mercy of others that ll him or her like a slave

This is the story of many in western world today...

Go on YouTube and see what Nigerians are being subjected to

Lloydfolarin:
I swear down, if you see what guys are going through without papers, you ll thank your God for the little you have in Nigeria.

Guys who live in western world without papers couldn't tell their family and friends what they are going through as a result of shame but if you are lucky to be told, thank God.

If you come with working permit, you ll be fine

As i write this, there are over 30,000 Nigerians in deportation centres for over a year and most of them are regretting their decision to come UK. The same story in US...

The ones who are not yet caught live like a thief. You ll literally live like a 5th class citizen. No bank, no official engagements, literally nothing you can do...

It's a hopeless situation my friend

i am not discouraging anyone but saving a brother from future pains and agony...

Below Pictures are taken in almighty US

justwise:
Bro you are painting unrealistic situation here, it takes you 20yrs to qualify for a stay here as an illegal immigration.

You can't marry in the UK as an illegal immigration

Working illegal is extremely difficult because any company that employs such individual get in trouble with UKBA with £20,000 penalty for each person.

justwise:
Bro you are painting unrealistic situation here, it takes you 20yrs to qualify for a stay here as an illegal immigration.

You can't marry in the UK as an illegal immigration

Working illegal is extremely difficult because any company that employs such individual get in trouble with UKBA with £20,000 penalty for each person.

Lloydfolarin:
Stop advising people wrongly

If they are coming with working permit, that is fine but without papers, your life ll be bleeped.

I challenge you here to post your Bank statement with your details being covered up and where you live, I ll drive down now and tell these people how your life is

Lloydfolarin:
I am still waiting for your response...

saintandsinnerz:
lol your reasoning is so out of order! If you don't know that the major reason people travel abroad is to make money and come home and better their lives and the lives of their loved ones, then I'm sorry to say you don't know much. Yes you have to pay bills and taxes in the western world but you will see where your money is going to. A man who earns $10,000 a month in the US will surely be a millionaire when. he comes back to Nigeria insofar he saved and used the money judiciously. Nobody is saying that abroad is bed of roses but if you don't have any meaningful thing doing here in Nigeria, why can't you travel abroad legally to try your hand there? If you have a good Job here there is no need to travel abroad for hustling. It doesn't make sense. In 2014, a friend I know travelled to South Korea with a language visa, now i know what this guy has achieved in the space of 3 years . This was a guy who was struggling here in Nigeria after several years of Nysc. So bro, chill, nobody is saying that abroad na eldorado, but surely it is a good place to look if you're not making any head way here.

Originalsly:
Thanks!.. £1k/mth minimum vs £1k/yr... for equivalent 2 bedroom flat. Again.... saying a single man can live on £500 to £700/mth ..... why not say how much would it will cost him to live similar life in Nigeria? Why just paint the rose bush blooming with roses and not not the thorns?

Lloydfolarin:
The suffering you be subjected to before making that £1 ll be unprecedented as an illegal immigrants

And if you are caught which almost certain, you are done.

There are over 30,000 Nigerians in Detention centres being detained as we discuss

justwise:
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Bro I don't think you are telling people the real truth. Life of an illegal immigration in the U.K is hellish.

No decent job agency touches you and those crooks who do pay you far less than minimum wage and over worked you.

saintandsinnerz:
Mr man stop being myopic. How can you say he wasted 4k usd in getting an Australian permanent residency? Australia has one of the best standard of living in the world and you're calling their residency a waste? The 4k usd you're talking about how much is it in Nigeria money sef? It is not even up to 2 million naira. Which business will you even use that amount to make billions in few years as you said.

Originalsly:
It's not about being single and impressing anyone.... this is about cost of living. .. why are you evading the question? ... so quick to push out numbers on income.... but trying to dodge expenses. This is very unfair and misleading to those considering travelling abroad.... shouldn't you discuss both sides of the coin? ...let them see the pros and cons before making an informed decision?

no1madman:
D guy no dey normal. .

Originalsly:
N450k/yr....2 bedroom flat...PH. Conversion. ... £1k. If you have a similar flat in London what would the rent be? This conversion issue is also something that misleads people.... like someone thinking about migrating thinking the rent would be pretty much the same in the country's equivalent currency. Again....how much would you charge for similar flat?

Zilifish:
And tax and bill wipes everything and turn u to a debtor. Do the maths....

Originalsly:
Not sure about the UK... are you saying illegals can get jobs through these agencies? ...and since you like converting. ... the oil worker can manage to afford a two bedroom flat in PH.... how much rent/mth would he pay?.... and how much rent would the illegal pay for similar flat in London? You can pretend you didn't read this.

MissRaine69:
Starting a business and being successful at it are not one of the same.

Originalsly:
Homeless where?....Site.... £70.... cash... daily.... for how many days?....are you not referring to illegals ...many homeless...who gather at certain points and hope... hope that a contractor will pick them for a day's work? Is this kind living better than an unskilled in Nigeria?... you need to do better than this.

MissRaine69:
That is an ideal that does not bear any fruit in this country if you are not well connected it's a battle. And that is the problem.

RELEASEUS:
the car mentioned was in relative terms to Nigeria not the western world. You are rushing to reply without reading twice. Also I said Qatar not Dubai. Bros women drive here and dress the way they do anywhere. Living standard here beats that of the us by far. Where as a black man your life is threatened when pulled over by the cop.

holakunle69:
Interesting in was also once in ur shoes .but you wanna know the simple truth? Your making it in life doesn't lie in any country or location.alot have gone out dere and still didn't make it ,and alot have stayed behind and still haven't either ways ..put ur plans in the hand if God he's the one that designed you and definitely he's got a plan .why not ask him and save ur self of this stress ...remember one wrong step can ruin an entire destiny..

drakeli:
If you are talking in terms of traveling to any of these Asian countries, Dubai inclusive, I support your opinion. But if you think traveling to US, Canada is not worth it, then you have to think again. The only problem you have is fear. Fear is an enemy of progress. You have already put yourself in an uncertain situation thinking Nigeria will get better. I pray it will. But it has been getting worse since before we were born. Why would you allow the failure or unfavorable situations of others be a factor in deciding whether you will make it or not. Why not use the success stories of others as a motivational factor in your decision to travel? I traveled out of Nigeria. Not just because of me alone, but because of my children unborn yet. And I'm glad today that I did.

MissRaine69:
Everyone has expecations when they leave Nigeria. Some have expectations are realistic some are not. Regardless of expectations and plans let's say you go abroad and better yourself , you will still return to a country that has a very ingrained policy of who you know not what you know.
So you can return educated to the hilt and be ready to be productive but if you are not well connected it amounts to nothing and that is what frustrates many to the point of not returning.

Secondly some Nigerians struggle abroad because they cannot adapt. Because they were a big chiefs here they carry that attitude abroad. They remain static in their views and mindset criticise and disapprove of everything in the respective adopted countries why did you come then? You have to have a certain type of acumen and attitude.

prettyboi1989:
the money that you will use to buy ticket, visa, passport, hotel fees in another country can be utilized judiciously in Nigeria if you got vision. if you dont have financial backing, you will just go and incure unnecessary cost in another man's country

Originalsly:
Let's engage. Let me agree with your fact... 2 years illegal work in the UK = 30 yrs unskilled work in Nigeria. With all that money the illegal is making... who on average has a better standard of living?...who has a more stable life? How many people return home to find people earning wayyyy less than they are living wayyyy better than they do abroad? ... how consistent are illegals employed abroad?.....and with all the money they make that you keep converting... don't you think you should convert their expenses as well?...and let's see if his expenses in 2 years is what an unskilled in Nigeria would take maybe 50 years to accumulate? ...and lastly... if it's so mu h better ...why are soooo many of them homeless?

princeuj2015:
As a serving corp member with an average ba of slightly half M and more to come by before December POP, i found this topic interesting considering how difficult It is for one to survive out there after nysc gosh. And to think that my best friend who graduated 2years ago without a job finally migrated to this so Country (Dubai ) to seek for a greenar pasture few weeks back makes the whole Scenario interesting.I have really learnt alot from people's comments and remarks here though. Thanks everyone Who's aired their view.

oluwaseunamos33:
Most especially Badluck Jonathief. Wey talk say stealing is not corruption.

mr1759:
na Bini dey kill u?

you have home problem u brought it here for panel of judges

wetin concern Bini are they the only one traveling even your beloved President does he stay here
come nor let me vex for you

I have traveled to that Dubai I would have been in a better place to advise u but you don error for your word

FortuneTeller:
Please do not be offended by what I said. I am only saying what I have witnessed. I have seen lawyers, nurses, doctors who did well in Nigeria but they do not have the intelligence for the American system. It does not mean they are dumb, but it means that they do not have the required mental abilities for a different system. What passes as proficient in Nigeria may not meet quality standards in another country like the US and Canada. You certainly can't buy your way into certain jobs here. Why do you think Buhari is in the UK receiving medical treatment? I believe there is honor and all jobs so I am not saying that there is anything wrong with what they're doing. My comment was about the op. He has very good hands on skills that he will be able to use. I think he will be okay if he relocates.

Misterdhee1:
But he milked the country dry didn't he?