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drnoel:
wait did u say u know Dr Oladikpo? Is he the Oladikpo that now works in Ekiti state?

I don't realy know where he works now, I left 2007, but he used to work at Springfield hospital in Tooting Bec.It was a Mental Health Hospital.

[quote author=ocelot2006 post=28014816]

And when you say many of your friends are Consultant, may I ask Consultant what? like I know a guy here Dr Oladikpo, he is a Consultant Psychiatrist. I also know a lady Helen McMahon, A Nurse Consultant, so what kind of Consultant are your friends?

drnoel:
Many. Most of my colleagues are consultants. I am on the way to be one myself and don't mean in naija

Ok the reason I was asking is if there is no position for a Consultant you cant be one, in the case of NHS England all Consultant are Employed by Govt in the form of NHS England.

Plz drnoel and Samgreeguc we should not argue in that direction, we far to enlightened to do that path I hope we stick to the adult conversation we are all having here, I must say I have learnt something here hope both of you have as well.

Siena:
[color=Blue]On average, a 2.0 16V petrol engine will do 32mpg. A 2.0 16V turbo diesel from the same manufacturer, in the same model will achieve 53mpg.

Then of course, considering the lower maintenance costs of the diesel engine, despite the 60 Naira advantage the petrol engine has, the diesel engine WILL cost less to run in less than 3 months.

The issue here is the average Nigerian motorist looks at the cost of single refills, thus failing to see the bigger picture.[/color]

The average Nigerian is scared of Diesel, dunno why.

Samgreguc:
why should he 4get his def.? Is it wrong?

you know the Issue is about status hence the unnecessary arguments, they forgot its a tittle of position rather than a kind of qualification.

drnoel:
Have checked again. My answer remains the same to the one I posted earlier. 4get ur ambiguous definition cos it won't help here. I don't mean any disrespect so don't agitate urself. U need to know the idea behind the ideal of these people. See we don't care if all health sector achieve consultancy. What we care about is that we don't have to have our orders during patient management rescinded.

Bro, I'm goinna say something, I don't mean it ina malicious way, how many Consultants do you know? and howmany do you know who work in private hospitals? There is a reason why I'm asking you, don't forget I have worked in one of Europe biggest hospital as well, for 5 years I'm used to clinical terms.

drnoel:
4get ur ambiguous definition. We are talking about medicine and the health sector and who better can tell u what it means than one who is involved in every day dealings in that area.

Did you not read the Bit about Medicine? Read my friend and comprehend, the definition of Consultants is same for every field, I even posted how it applies to Medicine and pharmacy, check again.

ocelot2006:
Very well. I'm an Electrical & Electronics Engineer by training (specialty telecommunications). Using my previous place of work, at the state level we had (top to bottom):

State Technical Head (Engineer)
Field Service Manager (Engineer & 2-ic to STH)
BSS/Tx Engineer + Power Engineer + 3G Engineer
Power Technician
Riggers

Same heirarchy pretty much applies to every technical/engineering. I have NEVER EVER seen an engineer report to a technician/technologists. Yes, most times the old seasoned technician is a bit more seasoned than a cherry engineer, same way a battle hardened Sargent/Sargent Major is way more experienced than a Leautenant fresh out of the Military Academy and Infrastry School, or some experienced nurses compared to Medical House Officers fresh from Medical School. But just as the NCO still reports to the young Officer, the Technician reports to Engineer. It is also expected that the Nurse, who hasn't even gone through a quarter of what's thrown at doctors at Medical School, submits to the authority of the doctor. They are NOT on par (equals) AT ALL.
Im trying to engage you in an argument to a specific statement you made, now when you said you where Elect EElect Engineer by training how do you mean? did you have first Degree in Elect Elect? or you gained this on the training field?

Im trying to engage you in an argument to a specific statement you made, now when you said you where Elect EElect Engineer by training how do you mean? did you have first Degree in Elect Elect? or you gained this on the training field?

drnoel:
That's where u are wrong to say the position of consultant has no education requirements. It has everything education in it cos the person that becomes a consultant in medical practice must be a specialist in his/her field, may have been well published and must have experience in the particular field of his consultancy.

I know you have to be Educated to certain level to deem it fit to be a Consultant, however What I meant in my statement was You don't have to go and sturdy to be a Consultant, you acquire knowledge and experience to be a Consultant if I make any sense.

for anybody who is still thinking Consultants is limited to just Doctors check these out
Consultant (disambiguation)


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Look up consultant in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

A consultant is a professional who provides advice in a particular area of expertise.

Consultant may also refer to:




Contents
[hide] 1 Types of consultants
2 Entertainment and fiction
3 Other uses
4 See also

Types of consultants[edit]
Public consultation, an often legally required process by which the public or affected parties may comment on major projects
Consultant (medicine), a medical specialist in the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Commonwealth of Nations, similar to an Attending physician in the United States
Consultant pharmacist
Creative consultant
Educational consultant
Elevator consultant
Employment consultant
Foreclosure consultant
Lactation consultant
Legal nurse consultant
Loss control consultant
Magic consultant
Management consultant
Media consultant
Native-speaker consultant, another term for Informant (linguistics)
Process consultant
Statistical consultant
Theatre consultant

Source :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant_(disambiguation)

drnoel:
I can't really tell u yes or no. It depends on the requirements placed down by their board or governing bodies. But u know the fire brigade approach of the Nigerian system and people. They can just give all of em consultants without even understanding what that means or the limitations of their profession.

Ok Im back
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant_(medicine)
From the above link you will realize the term Consultant is a position within a HOSPITAL, its not a Degree.
Another for Pharmacists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consultant_pharmacist

drnoel:
I can't really tell u yes or no. It depends on the requirements placed down by their board or governing bodies. But u know the fire brigade approach of the Nigerian system and people. They can just give all of em consultants without even understanding what that means or the limitations of their profession.

There is a reason for my question. The position of consultants has no Educational requirement as such, it boils down to the highest level of your discipline and speciality, I will give you a link in a bit to see what it means to be a consultant in medical terms and non medical terms, gimmie a minute.

But recent sturdies shows that Diesel damages the environment more than petrol does.

ogawisdom:
Ok I ll see to dt

Don't forget hand break is cabled, so anything can happen

saxywale:
No. I believe a consultant nurse to be different from a matron. Eriko's definition of consultant nurse fits what they call nurse practitioner in Canada. You can become a nurse practitioner by taking a msc or PhD and specialize in a particular aspect of patient care. I don't think going for further studies makes one a matron in naija.

Thank you very much, this is what some people are failing to understand.

ocelot2006:
Mbok tell them. In Engineering, there's a reason we have a hierarchical structure with the Engineer at the top (thanks to his years of training as an engineer and a manager), followed by technicians/technologists, and craftsmen. Same ought to apply in a medical team where the doctor leads, thanks to years or rigorous training, followed by nurses who are basically like the military ' s NCOs and rank - and - file, with pharmacists and lab technicians playing support. But noooooo, the lower cadre via JOHESU want to be placed on equal footing with doctors. It's like rank-&-file soldiers and their NCOs (Sargent, etc) demanding that they be made equal to Academy trained Officers (Leutenants to Generals).

you are talking about Engineering right? let me ask you something, what type of Engineer are you? and what hierarchical measure do we have in place to measure who is on top in the field of Engineering.?

drnoel:
A consultant nurse is a nurse who after the completion of her nursing training has also completed masters and post doctoral studies and then has been widely published, I think up to 2-4 years research experience. This nurse is then accepted to be a consultant nurse if the hospital she is working in together with their nursing board decides she has enof experience to get that title. That is why they call them consultant nurses in the UK and other countries that use those. Believe me I know cos I work with many of them. I have even held some upgrade lectures for their nursing consultants a few times in the past.

OK now before this ruling today, would they be called Consultant in Nigeria?I need your answer

drnoel:
But that's not true. Nurse attain chief matron status which is synonymous to consultancy. They just don't call em consultants. This thing they are looking 4 will choke them in the throat. It's just cos they think doctors enjoy certain rights which they are not wrong to think but then.....

This is where you get it wrong, why do you think we call them consultant Nurse in the UK? what's the difference?

Udoks:
I doubt if many posters here even know what it takes to be a consultant. it's not automatic for doctors. we go through residency training for years to become consultants. If these people want to be called consultants, then there should first be fields to specialize in, cos a consultant is a specialist in a particular field of medicine; then a residency program for them would also have to be started. And believe me, this is Nigeria, before these people even come up with the actualization of their residency fantasies, most of them would have gotten to the age of retirement and those coming behind them are even more clueless.
Now the only time I will know that GEJ and his men are high on products of bowel movement and intoxicated with effluents of micturition is when these Johesu ppl wouldn't have to go through residency programs to become consultants.

Crust of long story: No, that auxiliary nurse on your street can become a consultant, neither can the Gateman in our teaching hospital. Except of course they go through residency and become consultant Gatemen and nurses.

Wait sef... Consultancy na beans?

In other news B4 now if you even get 200 years experience and go through all kinda training as far as you are a Nurse you can never gain the status of Consultant.

petikal:
@Barcholder
Looking at the picture you posted, I'm a bit concerned on the location and placement of those panels. These things store heat from our abundant sunlight, and the reflection from them could be dangerous. So, what does your risk assessment entail?

They don't store heat, heat is reflected just like light, those cells convert Sunlight to Electric Energy cos of the photo electric cells inside them

Always put you cost at the bottom of your post, it will help you greatly, thank me later.

skynettech:
Yeah great work... But after a historic but awkward comet landing, the robot probe Philae is now stable and sending pictures - but faces concerns about its battery life.
1 hour ago

The are planning on deploying the drill bit inside, once that's gripped, they might attempt to shift it more 2wards sunlight, however the whole mission is 60 hours, battery life inside is 60 hours, average charge time is 6 hours of sunlight

Psylas:
i don't think it's using fuel, na Solar energy because i read it on bbc that the only prolem they are facing is the solar power, the spacecraft has gone far and no longer recieve enough energy from our star the Sun,

nah it is receiving Sunlight, however only on one of the solar wings cos it landed in such a way that its under a steep cliff, so the shadow from the cliff became a cast on one of its solar wings, but they are thinking of deploring its drill and with the hope it might just shift position BUT its a 50-50 thing it might tip over or fall out of the comet in total as the whole robot weights a gram on the comet cos of low gravity.

Teempakguy:
Abosolute Morons. Don't you know that solar eclipses aren't global?

ahahah

bushdoc9919:
And in response......see here



In other words, a consultant nurse is a very highly specialized nurse...not a nurse who trains registrar nurses....or makes overall clinical care decisions(except as a first responder)

The above is quoted from the website you linked to.....it is a transcript of the video.

Exactly, was that not the Argument ?
IRSPECTIVE OF QUALIFICATION IN nursing OR experience YOU CNA NEVER BE CALLED A CONSULTANT
From my understanding, B4 now anyone with the tittle of a Nurse weather highly trained and experience can never be called a CONSULTANT.\
But now they can Earn the title Consultant Nurses. The reason for the link I posted was to clear the Air of the myth as to *** There is no such thing as CONSULTANT NURSES* I thin you fell into that group B4 you read that post of mine.

senator2k9:
What ur mechanic did is d right thing, dat how I check mine too. I put d car in "" pull d hand brake and go out n checK d ATF level.

Seriously?

for the guy who said there arnt no Consultant nurses Abroad please read this

NHS Careers > Explore by career > Nursing > Careers in nursing > Nurse consultants
Nurse consultants


Nurse consultants are experienced nurses who are central to providing patients with fast and convenient services.

All nurse consultants spend a minimum of 50% of their time working directly with patients. In addition, nurse consultants are responsible for developing personal practice, being involved in research and contributing to the education, training and development of other nurses.

Hear from John Welch, a nurse consultant at University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust about his role in critical care.
Source :http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/explore-by-career/nursing/careers-in-nursing/nurse-consultants/
So you can see that the some of the so called Medical Doctors do have Ant Brains

[quote author=adeoladrg post=28001836][/quote]Brove you need to do research b4 you jump into conclusion, all what you have stated and I mean all Is wrong Gibberish+Rubbish, we do have consultants in every medical field in London. You are talking about nursing with the knowledge of Health Care workers.
When you say Doctors what Doctor? U failed to use the term Medical Doctor
I worked in the NHS England for 5 good years 2002-2007 as a medical staffing officer ,so I can tell you with Authority that your arguments are flawed
Consultant is anybody you go and meet for Consultancy, so do the Maths
If you have to meet me for advice in any field for consultancy then I would be a consultant. We even have consultants who are architects, we have consultant clinicians, Consultant pharmacist, Consultant Psychotherapists, Human resources Consultants, Consultant gynocologist. the list goes on so what's the Big deal
This is simple victory for common sense.

eightsin:
Strike everywhere except Boko Haram and politicians

ah that's true, I have always wondered why politicians don't go on strike

Seye25:
why this time. i tried to send some cash to dubai and i was charged 175naira... e pain me

How much did it use to be b4 nw?