₦airaland Forum

helpee:
i won't be tired of educating you. if police is guarding a car and the car is stolen, the first person that will be arrested is the police officer guarding it. your logic is defective that is even if you did one in school. the custom officer in this case is an accomplice by accepting to collect lesser duty. in the case of a missing vehicle police is not there. So these are two separate issues. moreso, the custom officers deliberately allowed the duty to be stolen because it is impossible to clear the vehicle from the port without an accomplice in custom. so unlike police and car theft, duty theft can be 100 percent eradicated simply by flushing out corrupt custom officers. you got it dunce?

"The first person that will be arrested is the Police guarding the car"- yes, in an idiotic alternate world filled with dunces like you. Especially when you have apprehended the thief and are now asking him where he hid the car. Your argument is that we should not bother about the missing car or the thief and focus on the Police officer who could not prevent the car from being stolen.

In other news, blame the NNPC officials for not reporting that Andrew Yakubu stole money. Blame Deltans (and not the court) for Ibori going scot-free in Nigeria despite looting his state blind.

You are really educating me.

Ibime:
Sorry, fouling is only the 2nd option. In the first place, he should never have been dispossessed. In that situation, a midfielder should easily throw his leg across the player breathing on him, stick his nyash out, and there is no way he would be dispossessed if he "full ground". In Naija that's where we use the terminology "that midfielder dey ground" ie hes got his body position, his core strength and his centre of balance right to ride pressure from behind.

Unfortunately Fabregas has a dangerous habit of turning over possession under physical pressure, too dangerous for me to feel comfortable with him playing that deep. That's why I prefer him in AM where his runs and finishing are 2nd to none. He did it several times last season leading to dangerous situations at our backline. Conte spotted that and removed him from the pivot where such actions are dangerous, and rightly so. Even 2 years ago in our victorious season, I particularly recalled this one that led to Schalke equaliser in UCL.

This is why when he was asked if he can replicate the Pirlo role for Conte in the summer, he said he can't. Not because he can't replicate Pirlos long passes, but because he can't ensure he won't get dispossessed in dangerous areas of the pitch unlike Pirlo.

This was the one that led to Schalke goal for example. Midfielder should be riding that sort of pressure from behind easily.

I can't argue with this because it makes sense however, the West Ham game is not a worthy example of a situation where Fabregas was dispossessed or dominated in midfield and that's the position I offered/am offering.

The pass from Azpi was too heavy and behind Fabregas who was out-muscled by a stronger Andy Carroll (who would have out-muscled Matic or Xavi in the same situation) freeing a fresher Andre Ayew to win the ball, run and pass the ball to Lanzini who was being marked by Matic at the time. If I am to borrow the line of your argument, then Matic should have been physically dominant and quick enough to nudge Lanzini off his stride or foul him and take a yellow for the team- thus preventing the goal.

It can work that way in slow motion or hindsight but not in real time.

Sure, Fab has his lapses but so does Matic. End off.

Ibime:
Sorry, the only truth we recognise is Whoscored. Show me the worst Chelsea player on the pitch.

Another one: http://www.skysports.com/football/west-ham-vs-chelsea/356604

According to your image, Kante was bad in that game but was he? Analytics don't always tell the full story. You of all people should know this.

AZeD1:
Going by your logic, there's no need to report stolen goods to the police. The police should have prevented the thieves from stealing it in the same place.


The Ali policy would drastically reduce smuggling because people would know that you car can be reposed any time for missing customs paper.

My brother, please educate this dunce cc Helpee

helpee:
you are a fool now I know. After confiscating the vehicle, in your well cooked sahara report , how many officers were arrested as accomplice after confiscating the vehicle? If I have 5 million and I buy a vehicle from a car vendor and I don't have any other money and they now confiscate my vehicle for an offence committed by a custom officer is that justice? what kind of society are we running self with fools like you having access to internet. nigeria is doomed. once again Mr, you dont confiscate vehicles from end users after you failed in your work as a custom officer. purge the bad eggs in your system and things work out smoothly. ode

LOL.

Take your ignorance somewhere else. Free trials for my tutorials elapsed with my last post. Go and play with your intellectual mates.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/775828/Chelsea-player-ratings-West-Ham-United-sportgalleries/amp

3 sides to a story:

Your side. Their side. The Truth.

helpee:
you are the one making stupid assertion here. govt and it's agencies is a continum . Where is the paper used to clear saraki vehicle? custom should have records . who cleared it? why clear it without collecting proper duty? I am not a custom officer so it is not my duty to ensure I pay proper duty cos I don't even know proper duty. it is the duty of fraudulent custom officers so Ali should rather deal with corrupt custom officers and all these will stop. If I buy a vehicle from a dealer it is expected the dealer paid duty. I can't be punished for an offence committed by customs themselves. that is what we are saying mr

Your stoopidity knows no bounds. All the questions you are asking are the questions that made Customs confiscate the car I.e because they saw that the previous govt or better still sullied customs officials did a botched job and let Saraki go free with financial criminality. This new govt or CGC has decided to correct the ills by making sure Saraki pays the correct duty that behoves the car in question.

Stop trying to force me into educating you. Ask kindly and I would oblige.

galaxy2020:
That's why it's better Ali wears the uniform and continue to do his work without fear or favor and let's see what other excuse they will come up with.

You don't get it do you? When you have made up your mind to hang your dog any thread will be good enough.

It is more than wearing a uniform. It is about attempting to beat him into shape. It will start as wearing a uniform (useless because he had visited them on many occasions and it was never brought up) then it will graduate into "let my Rolls Royce come into the country free", " give my son the job", "divert these funds back to the senate committee on Customs" etc.

If Hameed Ali needed confirmation now like Magu does, they would have cooked up flimsy reports through their cronies in the DSS like they have done to Magu.

They are lucky PMB is a proponent of separation of powers.

helpee:
use your sense too. How did the car bought for 298million scaled through customs ? sarski did not manufacture it in his bedroom. this news is just vendetta. As recently as two weeks ago, I wanted to buy a Nigerian used 2014 ford explorer . The seller is a young naval officer. the car was cleared via cotonue with no duty paid whatsoever. the man said nobody would disturb me once I tell them he was the first user in nigeria that military men no dey pay duty. How could I buy a vehicle for 8.5million only to be telling customs it was used by a naval officer. na so I quick go buy tokunbo jeje with 10 5million even though na 2013. so the bottom line is all the men in uniform and in high places including custom officials no dey pay duty. Lawless country

Stop asking stupid questions. The car was not purchased when Hameed Ali was the CGC so Mr Saraki was free to do anything. Under the Colonel, the car was routinely stopped to check for proper documentation which the driver couldn't provide so it was confiscated. When the driver presented the papers for the car, it was a fake, seeing that the duties paid were far less than the valuation of the car - more so, the paper presented was issued for another less expensive car and not the one that is currently owned by Saraki.

Read a book.

freeze001:
So it's now a case of 'your bad is worse than mine'? Very funny! That's d reason y'all support the nepotism and one sided display we see in the name of fighting corruption..such a pity.

I don't care about one-sided displays and nepotism. If you dipped your hands into the murky waters of corruption you should be brazen enough to face the consequences regardless of if you were singled out in the midst of other corrupt people. I mean, does a thief have the right to say "why are you arresting me am I the only thief?"

freeze001:
Ali cannot enjoy all the trappings and benefits of office as CG of Customs and refuse to be properly attired as representative of the office he occupies. It will not stop him from discharging his responsibility so he should wear his uniform or resign!

The customs is of the same status as the Nigeria Police and Immigration(Section 8 of the Customs Act). If the heads of these organisations put on the uniforms then what is d special thing about Ali? A former Army Colonel? Did he not realise that d customs was a uniform service before taking up his appointment?

He represents the office by discharging his duties without fear or favor and not by wearing a uniform. The former army General that wore FRSC uniform how good a provost Marshall was he? Why won't Nigerians concentrate on what is important?

Besides, Uniform wearing pertains to career Customs officers and not political appointees which Colonel Hameed is. As a result, he is not mandated to wear any uniform just to play to the gallery or pander to the whims of the dolts in the Hallow chambers.

freeze001:
So if they are not exclusive to the NCS, the regular Nigerian should pay for their ineptitude and greed? Spare me the crap please!

Same question should be asked to the National Assembly. And guess what? The impact of their failure is more reaching to Nigerians than the Nigerian customs so where is your grouse?

Exactly...Your pretence will only deceive the unsuspecting.

Ab4all:
So wearing uniform will stop him from discharging his duties.

Will not wearing one stop him?

ThatCEO:
The rice that those women imported, who allowed it thru the border? Customs.
Saraki's reduced import duty, who allowed that? Customs
All you Nairalanders who uses car, I am sure the person who sold you the car must have devalued the car to pay a reduced duty. But at the end of the day, who issued you the import papers? Customs.
Over 600 arms that was seized the other day, who cleared those weapons? Customs
Jimoh Ibrahim that just bought a Royce Ghost, I can bet he didn't pay the full duty, who cleared that machine? Customs!!!

If there is curuption in customs, fix it from your end n stop taking your anger out on the people who are trying to cope with your Boss's shambolic economic policies.

I don't fancy Saraki one bit but as far as Nigeria is concerned, you can't win a fight against him. Even Buhari has stylishly accepted that. The Evil Beautiful bride.

I don't like the Senate but I support them 100%. They can ask Ali to show up unclad for all I care.

Deceive only yourself. I don't love the Devil but I worship Lucifer - that's exactly what you typed above.

HAH:
The pertinent question is why did the custom collect the amount of 8million if it is not what he is suppose to pay

Read a book or something. Customs collected 8M for the car that was fronted to get the papers. Only for Saraki to use the same paper(S) for a car he bought for 298M Naira.

freeze001:
Why are the borders easy to beat? What system is set up and beaten at the port without knowledge and connivance of customs officials? Say someone bribes an officer and goes away, why should the same organisation, after sleeping on duty, come and disturb one party? Will the dirty officer be indicted? Besides, I am surprised u believe the Customs will be more effective outside its own official 'home' or environment, U never hear say na rat wey dey inside house dey tell d one wey dey outside say fish dey?

The Customs should sanitise itself and get serious subsequently. Imagine an ordinary consumer has bought a car from a show room or second hand from another individual and is enjoying his car only for Customs to impound his car for customs duty, was he ever part of the clearing process? Why should he be made to suffer for the corruption and incompetence of the Customs? What about the dealer?

Road sure pass? Exactly how many government agencies do we want to contend with on our nasty roads?

All problems listed here are not exclusive to the Nigerian Customs service under Hameed Ali. Again, your disemblance of false patriotism through seeming objective red herrings and illogicalities does not go unnoticed.

freeze001:
I think that if Mr Ali was convinced of the propriety of the suspended policy to impound vehicles with insufficient duty payment, he ought not to have cancelled or suspended it at least until he had addressed the Senate who summoned him to explain the policy. I also don't think that appearing in the uniform of the CG of Customs as required by the Senate should be too much for one who supposedly has d interest of Nigeria at heart.

Why did he hurriedly suspend d policy if it was well thought out? Why are we hearing this news now? This happened on January, why was it hushed? Is it some kind of smear campaign? Ali's pride stands larger than his diminutive self and that is what d Senate has sniffed out n latched upon if this story is anything to go by. If he'd published this incident of importation of a car with false documents by the Senate president and calmly worn his uniform when summoned, he'd be like d stuff heroes are made of. Unfortunately, they're all freaking dirty and Naija remains the worst for it.

He should wear his uniform and be serious please!

The moment you infused "wear his uniform" you exposed your Anti-Nigeria bias.

Sensible Nairalanders are implored to see past the facade of patriotism that the above poster aims to depict.

dazdilijae:
The senate invited the CGC not Hameed Ali please you guy should get it right, The CGC has a uniform with his ranks same way the Commander in Chief of the armed force may not be a military man but Must wear the uniform to certain occasions Hameed Ali can not give orders to custom officer to obey rather the CGC does that so the CGC should appear before the sanate to explain his policies that are anti people
For your information no senators house has been broken into 2 remove rice or stopped on the road to collect the bag of rice from their boot it the poor masses that suffer this.
If this foolish policy is allowed to stand it would be our cars that would be impounded nt the senators cars because custom officers don't stop senators on the road to ask for their custom papers it's us that would lose our cars nt the rich OLODO

If there was anything worse than garbage - this post qualifies for it.

BigBen10:
Dino is nothing other Saraki stooge. Saraki attack dog. You only hear his voice when there is Saraki interest to protect.

Shameless man talk less of a senator

Jibrin did worse for Dogara where is he now? Dino Melaye is an irresponsible loud-mouthed wife beater. His political blabbering is on life support.

Hameed Ali had visited the Hallow chambers on several occasions without a uniform. It was not an issue then because the senators had no axe to grind. All of a sudden Saraki needs his multimillion Naira car released and Hameed does not budge then the idiots in the house start asking for uniforms and what not.

Dino Melaye should tell his false story to the marines. I wonder why he did not say that Customs lost Nigeria 7 Trillion so that we can know all the revenue FG receives comes from Customs.

What is this Fabregas slander? Physically dominated against West Ham bawo? The match Costa kept losing the ball? The same one West Ham kept hoofing the ball past the midfield?

The bad pass to Fabregas is the one he should have controlled well or used his body to cause a systemic foul? A foul that would have warranted a second yellow (as he had gotten one first half for doing the same thing).

SmooshCHN:
You just no like us sha. That move has been a Pop's move for a long time now and Cavs have been exploring it since the season started rested Irving, James and Love like they aren't paid enough. We pulled the move once and it's no longer Cavs or Spurs move. I wish we dumped that 73-9 and rested a lot last season

I am not buying that argument that people made last time that our 73-9 season made us not to win a ring. We simply choked. We were 3-1 up. There is absolutely no excuse for it.

Me I am just happy we have gone back to blowing teams out

I didn't watch the game though.

sapiosexual1:
And got tanked
Well, Eruditor going by your definition of MVP, the Cavs have been unable to win without James. He is their MVP and see, they sit pretty and easy atop the conference. So James deserves the season MVP, yeah? yeah!

An argument can be made for him and I said so (I said he has an outside chance). Unfortunately, 2 things work against him;

1. He has won it 4 times
2. His team is pretty much achieving what everyone expected of them or maybe even slightly underperforming so there is not much spark to it. For someone like LBJ to win it again, he would need to do outrageous numbers at an equally outrageous efficiency and Cavs will need to win 70+ games etc.

Won't happen.

Donlittle:
ol boy, Eruditor no like that kid for nothing. You go think say he pass this curry Westbrook Durant matter .

He said 20 assists lol, like bruh, that was his 2nd or third year in the league. Anyways sha, The warriors choked on a 3 - 1 lead. That one still they pepper me.

Lol. Has nothing to do with my dislike for him. He is having an incredible season and I think he has been the best player- according to stats. I have said so consistently. However, if the debate is about who the MVP is I think it is rather simplistic to water it down to averaging triple doubles. That's all.

You people should calm down with the hyperboles. Arsenal had 70%+ of the ball, 600+ more passes than West brom and dominated the game in the literal sense. In their defense, West Brom's second goal should have been ruled off. The West Bromwich player that was offside clearly participated in the play by pushing Bellerin.

That being said, Wenger's ineptitude and tactical bereftment cost his side a vital win today against a flailing WestBrom side. I think the signs are clear that he should leave honorably come season end.

"Ooh his assists are so difficult because his players are scrubs. If he had better players he would have been arguing 15-20 assists a game".

Yea, right. He had Harden and KD once. Did he average 20 assists then?

sapiosexual1:
Brother projections are done based on potentials and previous stats of the players in the team. We've said it here time and again that opinions change with every passing game.
> Who would have projected that Curry would struggle soo badly this season? (what we now infamously refer to as mental aspect of his game strength
> Who would have projected that Cavs would even entertain a discussion on possibly sacrificing top spot for play off longetivity.
> Who would have projected that WB would be on a crazy roll of TDs (though leftists say he pads the stats)

Long story short, pre-season projections shouldn't form part of judgment or fulcrum of argument. This has been a rather interesting season and the playoffs may yet bring more surprises.

How can projections not be pivotal to the argument? Pundits and experts looked at teams based on personnel and projected their season expectations based on what they observed. One team is punching way way above what experts projected but the player majorly responsible for that should not be the MVP - it should be another player whose team is either underperforming or at best performing at the level that was expected of them simply because he is averaging triple doubles?

See I ignored the Curry aspect? Curry's stats are better than it was when he won his first MVP title yet his "fan boys" never called him the MVP. It is played out for his "non-fan boys" to keep bringing him in. This is about Harden and WB.

SmooshCHN:
You just can't keep GSW out our mouth or Curry .. Who mentioned his name in this MVP conversation?
All I know is, the award is between Harden and Westbrook.. Fighting your bigs is still a no no for me but doesn't change the fact that he's a beast.

I said same. He is a beast but calm down with the triple double jibes. Let me tell you something I just researched. ESPN ranked teams preseason and guess where they projected OKC to be in the west? 4th. Guess where Houston were projected to be? 9th.

You can check other rankings. NBA projected Houston 5th and OKC 6th. Yet all I keep hearing is how Harden has better players. Better players that nobody saw them to be when the season began.

SIRcumalot:
once you start trying to define what MVP means you going down a rabbit hole not many will follow.
their is a reason why the league didn't really define it and allow for a very broad interpretation.

It is not even a definition. Every team has an MVP. Which MVP is more "MVP" than the other that's what I am saying. Take away triple double but keep OKCs winning record and WBs PPG and he would fall down the pecking order in this MVP debate.

SIRcumalot:
his not a top 5 PF this season.
kawhi will get it best lock down defender on his team and first scoring option.
KD yes,ibaka no.my argument is simply,OKC got the better of that trade if they wanted to keep him he'll still be a thunder and the magic had to take another loss again just to get rid of him.
so you agree that his padding those number particularly the rebounds ?

WB is leading in uncontested rebounds. Which means his players basically give way for him to get the rebounds.

He is a top 2 player this year and perhaps the best player according to individual stats but it is a different argument to say he is the MOST VALUABLE player. He is not.

The nomenclature even spells it out: he is the most valuable player to his organisation sure but what is his value WRT the league standing?

Harden is the most valuable player to his organisation and he has lifted them to 3rd in a difficult west.

He is clearly the MOST VALUABLE player when juxtaposed with WB.

Give it to Dion Waiters. Without him Heats won't be in playoffs convo.

I mean since lifting previous 8th seeds to 3rd pales in comparison to 6th placed triple doubles.