₦airaland Forum

favorchild2017:
Are you saying, the VC has not considered all you are saying? or you also think a VC is a politician. That will just accept money. Even if he had in the past,This is not a n ordinary case o, the minster of education, president, dsss and IGP and all interested and will be watching with rapt attention.

The man is presenting in front of the nigerian senate.

you can imagine the level of professionalism and due deligence the VC will take.

ME and you do not have the hand book of the ABU university senate.

The VC is the chairman of the senate and if he says dino graduated, then he did.

Why wont you just accept that? or are you too now an exam officer

If the VC considered all I am saying we would never know. He only answered the question he was asked. Besides, he was not going to throw his school under the bus. Admitting that Dino didn't graduate will besmirch the reputation of ABU- The very school he was sworn to protect.

Why won't I accept that Dino claimed he graduated 1999 (according to NASS website) then as soon as SR questioned his status as a graduate, the same NASS website removed the year of graduation?

Why won't I accept that Dino showed pictures of himself with people he called his mates donning NYSC apparel (except him) in 1999 as evidence he graduated (to have served) but his alma mater says he graduated 2000?

Why won't I accept that someone who had 4 carryovers by final year (300L and 3 400L courses) still found a way to graduate with his mates?

Why won't I accept that someone who graduated 1999 on NL ABU Geography dept uploaded a cert stating he had BSc Geography but Dino's cert states B.A?

Why won't I accept that such a distinguished senator of Nigeria (mouthy one as well) was unperturbed that his name was not on any graduation or Alumni list?

Why won't I accept that Exam officers in his school are still adamant he didn't graduate legitimately?

tobiasbeecher:
So you want the VC to vouch off record Abi? Nawa forsome Nigerians o. All other things you wrote didn't make sense to me

No. You don't get it. The VC did not see Dino as a student neither did he verify all Dino's records to ascertain that he met all the conditions to graduate. All the VC did was confirm that ABU records state that Dino graduated.

If the department did something fraudulent by sending his name to be approved by the senate, the senate may approve it unwittingly which will make the VC say Dino graduated. But if the department ends up confessing that they did something fraudulent or exposing someone who did something fraudulent (Like Prof Ogbonna allegedly did) then they can retract the claims that he graduated legitimately and that way the VC still won't be wrong.

favorchild2017:
But you know the senate has the power to graduate a student, if it deem it fit and appropriate?

True. Same way they can decide to award someone who failed all his courses first class simply because he took a bullet for the VC. If Imperial college was going to accept such a student, they would want to see his transcript showing all the courses he passed enroute to graduating with a firstclass degree. If the transcript is found wanting, he would be rejected.

So in the same vein, if he is termed a ceremonial graduate of ABU, he doesn't reserve the right to call himself a graduate of that school anymore than Patience Jonathan deserves to call herself a PhD holder.

PS: I know even with a secondary school cert Dino is allowed by law to contest for a senatorial position. The issue here is he was claiming to be a graduate of ABU and if the evidence suggests that he wasn't, that would be tantamount to fraud. Bear in mind, this same Dino felt Hameed Ali was incompetent to head the customs, simply because he refused to wear the uniform. So is Dino fit to be a senator if he told a lie about his qualifications?

favorchild2017:
Whether graduated by error or by precision, the koko is baba graduated.

SR said he is not a legitimate graduate. There is a difference.

proffemi:
As I watch the Dino Melaye certificate drama with amusement, I want to add the following information:

It is entirely possible for a student to be graduated in error. That is, one way or the other, such a student's name gets forwarded by the department for processing whereas he actually failed to meet the requirements for graduation. Such a scenario would allow both the VC and Melaye's former department to be right. That is, the VC could have used the records of the university Senate, while (elements in) the department having access to raw results can still state authoritatively that graduation requirements were never met. If this is the case, then Melaye (or his goose, hehe) is indeed cooked, as the university can come out and say he was graduated in error.

Is this scenario possible? Sure to the Nth. I have, with my own eyes, seen multiple cases of students graduated in error [cough...not my department...cough].

Mind you: I do not know the specifics of this case. Take the above information only as FYI, and not as a commentary or suggestion of any kind on how this drama will play out.

True.

tobiasbeecher:
What other confirmation do you need? The VC of ABU just testified under oath that Dino Melaye graduated. I hope you will not doubt the VC because his submission didn't tarry with your expectations?

He confirmed under oath that ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS Dino Graduated. He didn't vouch for Dino according to his own testimony. There is a huge difference.

I am almost certain that whatever led to Dino leaving ABU, it wasn't as a legitimate graduate. They haven't treated him as such despite his status as a Senator. They cannot tell when he served or where (it will rubbish his claims of being with his mates in 99 service year in Kaduna). They cannot tell how he was admitted. They cannot tell how he cleared off his carryovers. They can only tell that he graduated.

Dino failed a 300L course. Failed 3 400L courses. So how and when did he retake them? He must have needed a full session to clear off his carry-overs which will mean he was still in school in 2000. If that is the case, what month in 2000 did he graduate?

The story is clumsy.

Calm down Nigerians the matter is at its incipient stage.

The VC was being smart by half: he said "according to the records Dino Melaye graduated as Daniel Jonah Melaye, BA Geography". That is a smart answer because the VC was not the VC at the time Dino supposedly graduated and if it is exposed later that Dino is a fraud, the VC can always say he declared what he saw according to the records.

The next issues the Senate committee should have raised is:

1. If he graduated in year 2000, when was he posted to serve in the NYSC scheme? The school should have the record too as it is supposed to be in a spreadsheet.

2. What state did he serve? School should have this record.

3. Dino had 3 credits alone which is not enough to qualify him for admission into ABU. If he did the GCE, what grades did he submit? If he did remedials, he needed atleast 5 credits (including maths and English) to still apply for it and be taken. So he must prove he had either GCE or something in lieu of it as his WASC will not cut it.

4. Dino clearly had carry-overs in final year alone. We don't even know if he had any from year 1 down to 4 and if he did how did he cumulatively clear off all his carry-overs enough to be declared a graduate and not that he was issued a cert of participation.

The answers to these questions will help decide if the testimony of ABU should be taken because as it stands, it serves them better to claim him than deny him and this already places a question mark on their credibility.

The answer to his NYSC will help rubbish his picture claiming to be doing NYSC with his mates in Kaduna 99, when records say he graduated 2000. If he graduated 2000 then what year could he have served? The same 2000 June or November of 2000? If he started serving either of those months he would been done with the service in 2001 which shows that his pic in 99 (which he tried to adduce as a reason he graduated) will show that something is iffy between his claims and the VCs claims.

I don't even want to go into the fact that he is not in the list of graduands for 1999 or 2000. I don't even want to mention that "creating a 3rd semester in final year to help carry-overs" will still mean that graduating even in 2000 will be slightly impossible (as it makes no academic sense to write a 2nd semester course in the first semester or vice versa).

There are a lot of holes to poke in this testimony but more will be revealed in time.

Me I am just happy my team has gone back to limiting teams to under 100 points. We were 2-5 after KD got injured but are 7-0 in the last games. 3 difficult games coming up but they won't be any more different than the last few games because most teams have played us in playoff mode.

So excited I don't get to play Memphis in the first round and I hope the players see it the same way and don't slip-up on our top seeded position.

Houston don't play great defense: What business did they have conceding 125points against OKC? As for Spurs, I want to beat them this time around to protect 1-seed and hold a psychological advantage before the playoffs.

KD is coming back. Hopefully by the 2nd round (if we get there) he'd be up to his best.

I still feel Cavs will come out of the East but they won't go on those sweep runs that they did last time out. I expect them to have dropped 4 games (cumulatively) before the ECF.

Clippers have opened the door for Russell's OKC to catch them. Shem.

Triple double but he still lost. Y'all get off on that?

*Russ face*

Neymar1095:
Am Neymar greatest fan since Santos. I love Messi Dead but Neymar is my number one. they are on par.

Hmmmm.

mayorski01:
Thanks man. anyone's got any update on De buryne's injury

It might be a dud. He has an important game after the international week.

Wall was extremely quick and athletic today. He didn't need to facilitate as much as Cavs came to neutralize that.

Wizards on the other hand prevented Lebron from distributing and controlling the game.

Something is missing about Cavs. I know they can turn it up in the playoffs but I don't know how significant it will be.

They are trying too hard to be a 3-point team and it just looks off even when it works.

John Wall realizes no one can protect the ring effectively for Cavs and keeps waltzing through.

71-61

Kyrie is fit but was rested for a lengthy stretch.

I don't care who wins this game but I doubt Cavs will sweep teams enroute to the final this season. Boston and Wizards can take atleast 2 games against Cavs this time around.

Who is watching Washington vs Cavs?

Is Kyrie hurt?

mantosa:
I called you intelligent before, now I will have to retract that compliment. You are freaking dull.

We are having a conversation, mentioned me & quoted you don't unintelligent and sentimental comments, where you referring to the wind or the phone you used in typing?

Mofo

E pain am.

Devin is one for the future.



But his team lost.

mantosa:


I keep saying you assume a lot. Now you're stating I'm being sentimental. Why should I? Is Dino representing me? Or am I benefitting from him as my employer.

I clearly stated a thorough investigation should be done.

Lastly, don't EVER call an online commentator unintelligent. Calling someone that shows your level of gullibility.

When I said I hated unintelligent and sentimental people did you assume I was referring to you?

Wow. You did the same thing - you assumed. You see, assumptions aren't always bad.

Eff off!

unclezuma:
The point still remains until all evidence have been proven beyond reasonable doubt and sensationalism same as yourself and your ilk kindly stop mentioning me, State your point and move on.

The Hulk Hogan's case is and will remain similar and that my good quoter is my take no matter how desperate it may sound.

It is my point of view not yours, it was not fostered on you and the last time I checked I never mentioned nor asked for your intelligent analysis of my opinion.

If and when this case ends everything would have been made clear and conclusive.

JibbyJabber.

Sad.

seguno2:
Buhari is the one using diversionary tactics to make us forget about the massive looting under his administration that has led us into recession.

It is PMB now attacking Melaye? Massive looting under PMB led to recession?


The topic of discourse is about Dino and his sketchy educational past. Stick to the topic.

seguno2:
Why do you bring Stella Oduah into this matter?
Do you want to embarrass Buhari in his fake fight against corruption?
Why has Buhari not removed his SGF and COAS for corruption unlike Jonathan who removed Stella Oduah on allegations of corruption?

Stella submitted fake educational documents too and when SR reported it, she was forced to resign. GEJ did not fire her even when she stole $1M in the guise of buying 2 BMW bulletproof cars. I don't have time for your diversionary tactics.

SR were wonderful when they kept announcing PMBs health challenges in the UK but are childish and vindictive when it is to a hack of a senator.

unclezuma:
And you are trying too hard to appear erudite whilst failing on that account.

Are you Dino or Sowore or a representative of the NASS?
Until both parties produce all certificates and proofs (Dino's educational qualification saga did not start today) kindly try not to bring your eroded manners to a public forum.

Make your point and move on, it is a big highway and I am entitled to my lack of bias and intelligence.

More and more drivel into nothingness. First you were throwing redherrings about Hulk Hogan (totally unrelated to this case as Hulk was suing for privacy issues). When nobody bought the BS, you switched to addressing the link between Dino and Daniel Melaye. Take a seat and THINK. It is free to think.

Without pulling anything online to prove Dino is Daniel Jonah O Melaye I can simply use his own words to make the case. Only one Melaye went to ABU and studied Geography as of the time "Dino" claimed he went there. Only one Melaye named Daniel Jonah O did ABU's Dean of faculty for geosciences accept was a student who might have been exempted from the NYSC scheme.

So pray tell me; If it looks like a Duck, walks a like Duck, smells like a Duck and quacks like a Duck, what will it be? A Rooster?

I told you before, you are trying too hard and really it is coming off as desperate.

seguno2:
As a free man, he has done what he WANTS to do.
If you are not satisfied, it is inconsequential.
He does not owe you anything.
If you like, you can lap up and embellish sharia Reporters stories all you want. That is your free choice.
Certainly, they will have their day in court and you can follow them at that time.

LOL. Your predilection for anything anti-govt is very well known. So well-known that you would support Dino if you feel it is an infringement on the FG. This can be evinced by the diversionary tactics of either asking moot and most times flat out inane questions or bringing PMB into it.

Ofcourse, he doesn't owe me anything. Evans Enwerem, Salisu Buhari, Stella Oduah etc didn't owe me anything enroute to getting the boot from their respective positions neither will Dino Melaye.

Now run along.

unclezuma:
Bottom line is produce a link or lack of it between the two individuals case closed.

You are trying too hard to appear unbiased or intelligent. You are failing on both ends.

seguno2:
Keep calm and stay cool.
Are you the judge in the court dealing with his defamation case against sharia Reporters?
Why should he show you anything?
Who are YOU?
You should wait and follow the proceedings in court.
That is what educated people do.

You are so stoopid. He had the time to upload fictitious pictures of himself with people who were undergoing NYSC. Had the time to upload his Master's dissertation. Had the time to upload his suit against SR. But doesn't have the time to upload his BSc?

Yea, educated people use the court to refuse to answer questions that will incriminate them by claiming the issue is in court and would be sub judice to discuss it. Which was Dino's strategy all along as he knows he is a fraud.

donnie:
I wrote the GCE exams while in my SS2. I left school for the period of the exams and returned afterwards to finish SS3 and write WAEC.

It was also called external GCE as we were not required to register under any school.

Like I said, SR should quit the childishness and prepare for their day in court or jail.

If I never went to secondary school, all I needed to do was indicate the school in which I wrote the GCE in and the year. Afterall, it is the school that would be indicated on the certificate.

I don't know why otherwise intelligent Nigerians because of political biases will be supporting things that spell out criminality and fraud.

unclezuma:
They have to prove the name on the WAEC result tallies with his ABU admissions records...How did they even make that leap of faith...It's like saying I didn't school in Kano State by producing a result from a school in Ojota.

You don't get it. If he is not Daniel Jonah Melaye, then he has to even begin to prove that he was a bona fide student of ABU as that is the only Melaye that matches the time he said he attended there and the department he said he was in.

Stop over-intellecualizing things.

seguno2:
What false documents/certificates did he submit?
Submitted to who? Where?
Stop being excited and pause to think before you embarrass yourself further.

You are the dolt embarrassing yourself. Is he not claiming he got into school 94/95 and left 98/99? What secondary school did he graduate from 94/95 because he indicated a primary school as the institution he got his WASC from.

What WAEC/WASC /SSC did he use to gain admission into ABU?

When did he graduate from Uni? His name is not on the list of graduands 98/99?

When did he retake his carryovers? If he did in 99/00 why are his documents claiming he graduated 98/99?

Where is his PGD cert that he must have acquired enroute to getting his masters? If he doesn't have one then how did he get the masters degree when he only could have graduated with a third class (if he did graduate)?

unclezuma:
Descripancies everywhere...

Jonah Daniel Melaiye...How does that translate to Dino Milaye abi dem wan turn Senators to Musicians.

SR please produce the documents to prove name change or be prepared to choose the measurement of your graves.

That was how Hulk Hogan buried an online media for $100million

You are joking right? If that was the case, then Dino never went to ABU to begin with.

I pray to God this is some form of satire or sarcasm.

seguno2:
Why don't you find out the required qualification for senators so that you are not excited for nothing?

Dolt. Nobody is asking for the qualifications for a senator but that Dino is a fraud who used fake documents for most of his life. Submitting fake documents/certificates is a criminal impeachable offence. Ask Salisu Buhari and Evans Enwerem.

emmykk:
thanks for the correction, but there are people who write weac too many times provided the 5 credits is two sitting.



In future sahara reporter dont mind picking result of the BSG Low JAMB score as the actual score he used for gain admission

I know people could combine results and I am guessing he did that but was is fraudulent is how he doesn't indicate it in his CV or profile but instead uses a primary school as his alma mater for receiving the WAEC. To add to that, he shows that he doesn't have any stop-gap between secondary to University when that should not have been the case - clearly.

emiye:
You are right about the boldened part. Taking in to cognisance that 95/96 session, university students were all at home due to a an ASUU strike for over a session. He claimed to have graduated in 97/98session i think.

98/99. He claimed 98/99.

koji01:
The use of A3, C4, and B3 by WAEC started in 2001 pls Sahara Repoters these grading system was not in use as at the time Dino was in secondary school. Junk journalism will not lead us any where!

STFU you pathetic liar. It was the A1, B2-B3, C4-C6, D7, E8, F9 system that started 2001. Sahara's document in the OP shows A3, P7, P8 etc which was the in-thing in 98/99.