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eph12:
Are you saying Arsenal deserved to win both legs or over two legs?

Counter attack is still a form of winning but dominating is something else. United deserved to win; they exploited Arsenal's lapses. But that does not mean Anderson dominated the midfield.

eph12:
After that match, Anderson was singled out for praise, for his job on Fabregas. It was easy and fun for him though and he thought he could stay on Xavi same way too

Fletcher did the job on Fab. Anderson played well Bro no argument he was releasing the ball quickly for United counters and worked hard. Nothing else.

Gibbs mistake. Ronaldo's crazy freekick and counter that was how United won.

eph12:
Anderson only lost thrice out of thirteen against arsenal, and you say it's not bullying and dominating? What then is it?

You have changed again. We are talking about Anderson and Fabregas.

Haba, when Sneijder's Inter beat Barca did he "dominate" the midfield?

madrid5:
god I remember this game,Ronaldo and park"kante" ji song was immense,bros even this game Anderson no bully shit,he played very well is not equal to bullying fabregas who had a poor outing,this game na counter just finish arsenal to be honest no be midfield dominance.

I was about to type this. Eph12 knows. He is just trolling. Even SAF said he put workhorses in that game to tire Arsenal and hit them on the break.

Park. Fletcher. Rooney. Anderson all tucked into the midfield to hassle Arsenal players.

eph12:
Anderson played against Arsenal 13 times and only lost thrice. Everyone knew he enjoyed playing against the gunners, him Park and Rooney.

It is not news that United beat AFC a lot in SAFs latter reign. The question I asked is about Anderson bullying Fabregas and dominating midfield. That game does not exist. If it does, provide it.

madrid5:
okay you don win this battle even Fabio centrao dominated robben in one match in 2014,just one match and u don turn am "Anderson used to bully fabregas"10 years person like you go say herrera use to bully hazard just because of one game. now why midfield controller dominate fabregas,xavi iniesta and co or even Redondo or Gerrard in midfield?.

Don't mind Eph12, United fans always claimed Anderson was better than Fab even before he was signed so they always clutch unto straws to look for any game Anderson supposedly played better. Which is why I asked him for the game and he could not produce it.

That excerpt he gave us was from a United fan or apologist. And that was a 2-2 game in which Arsenal actually had more possession and Fab scored. Some sites call Fab " fantastic" in that game. Only thing Anderson did was nutmeg Fab close to the thrown in line. That has now turned to "dominate" and bully.

eph12:
Nah it wasn't easier

It is because it does not exist.

eph12:
Just google about the two when they met

It was easier to type the game/scoreline than to ask him to Google it. Is there a reason you chose the latter?

eph12:
photo

You are a wise guy. Just provide the game, the fine points can be ironed out afterwards. What game was that? Thanks.

madrid5:
of course,it was due to wengars foolishness of making arsenal's midfield very technical and very physically weak,fabregas nor be agbero,as good as modric and kroos is they still need agbero casemero,the bigger question is why didnt scholes the midfield 'controller' try to control Fabregas and co in midfield?

Why are you agreeing with him? He should provide the game first. Fabregas was not at Arsenal when United beat them 8-2. If that is the game he is referring to.

Unlimited22:
5+1 = 7.
Wow

You are not in the UCL this season but this is his 7th season in Chelsea, no?

eph12:
The same Fabregas that Anderson nobody used to bully and outplay even at his prime?

Provide one game where this happened.

Houston sheet the bed. They look awful in defence. New Orleans look rejuvenated despite the loss of Rondo.

Hardetayour:
KD and Klay were off. Jones and Looney, very impressive.

Klays shooting made it seem tight. Those 2 3's he missed back to back would have widened the gap

He missed too many wide open looks when Paul George could not miss. It frustrated us. But it is Klay so I'm good.

Hardetayour:
Damion Jones is balling

He impressed me. Him and Kevon Looney tbh. Even that Swedish guy gave us good rebounds. Only Klay was off. Even KD did not really shoot well.

aliondo:
Good to have you back

Good to be back. Football replaced my sporting interest. Good going by your team.

KNIGHTBlaed:
Welcome back bro

Thanks o.

Klay's shooting was off. Which is ironic considering how excellent he was shooting all preseason. His shooting kept this game close. Same as PGs insane 3rd Q.

KD the last name called.

Bob Myers and co...I see what y'all are doing.

We can't lose him to Lebron and the lakers.

airmark:
Langauge? Elruditor.

Oshe, Michael Phelps.

Still better than "stuffs" that is clearly not a typo.

raumdeuter:
Stop lying hazard wasn't injured at 2014 world cup. Hazard was talking about his injury in 2017

EnGlIsH iS nOt HiS fIrSt LaNgAuGe.

airmark:


Go get ice cream

Or maybe I should make a long post and hope it bores you to literal death

airmark:
Is Hazards scoring form in Aug - Oct 2018 better than fabregas' in Aug - Oct 2007?

You will just type rubbish and think here is like arsenal thread, full of zombies. Elruditor.

His scoring form is not better. Fabregas' is not worse either using a justified term of reference.

airmark:
You chose the range Aug to Oct, nobody forced it on you. So, my niece in primary school will tell you 8 in 10 is a better scoring stat than 10 in 15 in that period. Your shouting assists at every opportunity won't save you. Take your L and bounce.

Don't be obtuse. You mentioned sub-standard UCL matches what does that have to do with scoring form?

obtusemark, I am the one to teach you that 8/10 is statistically better than 10/15. You once argued here that 2 UCLs in 3 years was = 2 in 22 years.

eff off.

airmark:
If we ask you to put your money to back this fallacy now, you will start writing a useless epistle that bores someone to death.

The difference between your opinion and ice cream is that I care about ice cream.

airmark:
You changed the narrative as nothing concerns assists with your goal scoring form.

Stop using IF statement. 8 in 10 is better than 10 in 15, not even considering sub-standard matches played in ucl qualifiers you smuggled in.

So why did he not make his assessment with Fabregas' first 10 games? To skew the point he was trying to make. And if you dare bring up sub-standard matches, common sense will laugh you out of the building. Cardiff fresh of Championship compared to a champion's league team? A player who was not the designated penalty taker? A midfielder? With his 7 assists to boot.

kingBolton:
You are now turning amala
You started with goal scoring form, and now you are adding assist because goal scoring form is not suiting your narrative?
I agree with rest of your point about the goals drying up tho

I am not changing the narrative. I said Hazard is not enjoying a better scoring form than Fabregas did (Aug-Oct) 2007/08 and you were trying to be exacting by telling me one was 8/10 and the other 10/15. I emulated you and added another factor.

if Hazard goes 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 and Fab went 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 hope you know their scoring forms are pretty much the same?

kingBolton:
And is this not totally false?
How can you say hazard who currently has 8 in 10 games is not enjoying a better goal scoring form than Fabregas who had 10 in 15?

Fabregas had 7 goals and 7 assists in his first 10games of that season. Are you happy? And some of the goals were against Tottenham (away), Liverpool (away) and United (ahome).

Let us now wait for Hazard to get to game 15 and later 30 and then at the end of the season to see his "talent level".

kingBolton:
Fabregas had 10 goals in 15 matches from Aug - october
Hazard currently have 8 in 10 matches
So please tell me how fabregas goal scoring form was better.

This is where English being your first language would have helped.

I said "[Hazard] is not enjoying a better scoring form than Fabregas did that time between Aug-Oct".

I did not say Fabregas' form was better. Both were scoring almost every game and just like Fab's goals declined, Hazard could go the next 10 games without a goal. He has done it before.

APC need to stop acting insecure. What is this rubbish about? There are just something's you don't need to comment on as it smacks of grand insecurity. Is that how US Visa's are procured? What is this sheer ignorance? Is your campaign built solely on the fact that Atiku has been declared persona non-grata in US?

Greatihex:
pkasso, Eruditor, if you dont know how an argument started, Dont jump into it.

This is the post i initially quoted to make my claim and facts have shown that i am correct. If you dont agree, dispute it with facts.


I am baffled at the lack of understanding a lot of people display here.

To put things into perspective, if someone says Messi is still the best goal scorer in the world, it will be absolutely obtuse of anyone to bring a stat within say, March of 2018 when Salah had more goals than Messi to make an argument for Salah. When the season ended who eventually had more goals? Or is Mitrovic now better than CR7 since between Aug 12 -Oct 12 2018 he has scored 5 goals and CR7 has only 4?

Greatihex:
pkasso, Eruditor, if you dont know how an argument started, Dont jump into it.

This is the post i initially quoted to make my claim and facts have shown that i am correct. If you dont agree, dispute it with facts.


I am baffled at the lack of understanding a lot of people display here.

On the contrary, if you don't know how to make factual logical arguments then leave it to the people who can. Coutinho14 said Messi is the best dribbler, one of the best passers and the best chance creator. You did nothing to refute his post.

You posted a screenshot saying since 2014 to 2017 Hazard cumulatively had more takeons than Messi. Why not start from 2012 and why not extend it till 2018?

Then you regurgitated the same thing with a shorter window (2015-2017) were Hazard had more take-ons than Messi and Neymar (both playing for the same team).

How you think these stats challenge the verisimilitude of Countinho14's post is what is baffling.