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ekobami:
What about you?
Are you respecting someone's dad?
I thought you should be learned, the president might be healthier than you son of the devil, cyber Bully!
Very soon Opera mini will stop functioning on Nokia C1, let see how low life like you can access Nairaland.

You will know them when they decide to show their stupidity and insult people's parents unprovoked. Is Buhari your father? Not today a president has always been a subject of abuse including Jonathan because they are public figures. Obama was abused and even Trump now...they are greater than any 100 Buharis put together. Abuse people's parents & I'll tell you that you lack proper upbringing. Savage is what you are!

net282:
Because is not wested on ur father's head, remember Mr president is the father of any country

Savage. One ill-trained vagabond spotted. No respect for other people's parents because you dont respect yours

Oh ''what he's treating is not malaria that we can say he will today or tomorro'' So mr governor why dont you tell us what he's treating The president is public property!!

Everything is shrouded in secrecy with a president voted by millions of people. They are running Nigeria like a private business. Na wa o.... Chai chai chai #in mama Peace's voice

The APC vultures are at it again

APC is a party formed on Deceit, Propaganda and Lies. So it is inevitable for them to crumble

Lol. Evans is inspiring a lot of people this days

ollah1:
I don tire abeg, zoharariel. This guy needs you. Emancipate am

Is that your fellow Islamic fanatic?

ollah1:
Lol. You need more neurons so you can form a synapse, smart folks knows 911 was a controled demolition. You are one of the people that believes every lie fed to you by MSM. Lets pretend "Osama bin Laden" truly demolished WTC and he was the leader of Al Qeada. How come Hilary Clinton said All Qeada is with them in Syria? Here it is again cos you have decided not to acknowledge it since she is a Christian and from a Christian nation.

Only gullibles and dead brain folks doesn't know CIA is capable of anything.

More neurons?? Please stop exhibiting foolishness on social media! You are just showing symptoms of a bi-polar disoder, secondary to paranoid schizophrenia towards Christianity.
You keep mention Hiliary Clinton who was never a president.
Shekau, al-banawi, sadam, osama bin laden... Taliban, IS, Muslim brotherhood, Al-qaeda etc do these names sounds Christian to you Imagine what the world would look like without your Islam!
They shout the Islamic God before blowing themselves and innocent people to pieces!!

Your reasoning is like a person who should be admitted into a psychiatric ward.

ollah1:
I see emotions, sentiments, et al all over comments. Discussing with an emotional, sentimental and hate filled person is a complete waste of time. They believe what they choose to believe. Their actions, inactions and reactions are all based on sentiments, emotions et al. I attached an image about Hilary Clinton regarding Ak Qaeda, why did you keep mum about that? Simply cause a Christian and a Christian nation is involved.

I included a link about the confession of a Christian that was part of the guys who made WTC actually happen? Only blinded people doesn't reason deeply about things but would quickly react and their reactions are often wrong.

911 was a CIA/Mossad/MI6 and Saudi Arabia inspired $hit. Why didn't Trump ban Saudi Arabia? Why did he visit Saudi Arabia within his first 100 days?

So the names I listed are Christian preachers and not Christian terrorists? Wow!!

The better you start using your brains the better.

I can now see that you've vowed never to use that cotton wool in your skull you call brain.
Why are you ignoring the truth and fact that Osama bin laden, your brother in faith, confessed to the 9/11 attack and was a wanted terrorist for many years You chose to believe some link and you want me to click on it, but you are here decieving and embarrasing yourself when a Muslim terrorist confessed to the attack!! Hiann! I pity this fellow.. Thats why you've resorted to insults. Only a senseless person will believe the CIA killed dozens of Americans during 9/11

Hope no one has asked you to come and strap bomb around yourself You know those 7 virgins waiting for you...

ollah1:
Lol. You accused someone of feigning ignorance about what some Muslims did but you are quick to dismiss what some Christians did? Lol isn't this hypocrisy at its finest?

Only fools will believe terrorsit groups exist because of religions. Let's even pretend it does, what would you say about the attached. That's a leaked email from Hilary Clinton ( a Christian). I didn't even list her name earlier.

The biggest terrorist act was committed by a Christian in the name Timothy McVeigh. Work trade center went down on 9/11 but ou were never told the truth about it. Here is a link about a Christian confessing the actual fact.

https://www.nairaland.com/3924890/cia-agent-confesses-deathbed-blew

Emacipate yourself, remove the logs in your eyes and kill the hatred in you. Did you just say US is killing terrorists? You dont know anything. The soap used in washing your brains is outta this world. The US, alongside UK, Saudi Arabia and Isreal are the chief sponsors of terrorism all over the world.

You called me a fanatic cause I'm writing facts to your face. Lol, whos actually a fanatic here? The one that admits crime happens everywhere and by every faith or the one that feels Christians Ns Christianity are flawless?

Read my signature. It didn't get there outta the blue. Only smart people will easily understand what it means.



Shalom!

Wow what a ridiculous reasoning! White lies they tell you guys in your mosques about U.S.
Only a stupid nitwit will believe that the numerous terrorist groups, who are only Muslims all over the world, are not religion-based (Islam)

Now lets even assume your so-called list is true, these are names you can count on your finger tips. Boko haram, IS, Al-qaeda, Muslim brotherhood, Taliban etc?these Islamic terrorists have leaders and branches all over the world! World trade centre 9/11, seriously dude? You mean the one Osman bin laden (another Muslim terrorist) confessed to being the mastermind??and you are saying we were never told the truth? Oh you are the one who has been completely brainwashed beyond treatment.
Phew you are a ridiculously funny dude. You wouldnt admit a simple fact the your Muslim folks are perpetrating evil all over the world for the Islam and you blame other countries.
Ask yourself this question; why are there only Islamic and the Muslims terrorists all over the world?

ollah1:
The problem with people like you is you ascribe whatever a Muslim does to it's faith while ignoring that of the another simply cause of the hate you have for them and their faith. When a Muslim does something nasty, you are quick to attack his faith and his fellow Muslims. You will attack him alone neither would you applaud whatever a Muslim does.


People have died as a result of argumenta between Arsenal vs Chelsea or Messi vs Ronaldo et al. I guess these guys are also evil to have made that happen ? NO! It's not Islam related so it doesn't count. These few listed names killed in the name of the Christian God

George Bush
Tony Bliar 
Oscar Morel
Alexandre Bissonntte
Darren Osbourne
Timothy McVeigh

The top two people ruined Muslim countries, rendered them homeless and destroyed their present and future. Have you thought about doing something about Christianity? NO!

The fact is there are two sides of a coin. There are two kind of people, the Good and the Bad.

Next time look in the mirror before writing sentimental and bigotry comments.

It is you who is being ignorant of obvious facts here, or you are just feigning ignorance of the atrocities your folks commit on a daily basis all over the world! Big lies about your purpoted listed names. I'll not go far at all, taking Nigeria into cognisance...boko haram; are they not killing for the Islamic God?? Do you know how many people they have killed for Islam? They even use children as suicide bombers!! Al-qaeda, Taliban etc theses are the Islamic entities terrorizing the world and thats the basis of my comments here. Why is it only Muslims

Muslims are just too funny. If U.S try to save their terrorist-infested country by fighting the Islamic terrorists, they will say U.S is killing their people. The fact is that too many are being killed in the name of Islam and the Islamic terrorists shout the name of the Islamic God before doing their evil!

N.B.. I dont hate Muslims at all but fanatics like you need to be told the truth.

APC's 2years so far....worse than the entire PDP's 16years in government

Diezani, your name will be remembered for a very long time ma. One of the greatest looters in the history of Nigeria

More propaganda. Meanwhile, Nigeria is still paying U.K 80million naira per day on the parked Presidential jet...

ollah1:
The hypocrisy of folks here is stunning and they wouldn't quit it despite the facts staring at them to their faces. I'm not agitated about Islam or anything. I simply wrote the truth.

Do Christians hit their heads on the ground? No
NK did it and it's fine
Muslims do it then its a problem

Guy leave that phonemenon of hitting head on the ground. The fact is that Christians can touch the ground with their forehead to worship God and can even roll on the ground to show appreciation to God.

You guys dont know the problem of Islam at all. But the problem is the fact that Muslims blow people up to pieces. Innocent people including children, women. They find it easy to kill for Islam. These are your problems starring you at your face that you need to tackle and not what people say about breaking your head against the wall or whatever.

ollah1:
Great. Do you ask the commenters that bring up Islam outta the blue? Do you ask commenters that say negative things about the manner Muslims worship which is synonymous with what NK did? How does what NK did related to Christianity? How have did I make a comparison? How did you reach a conclusion on my faith?

Yes I reached a conclusion on your faith because of the few comments you made and your replies. And yes, you compared by saying Christians criticize Muslims' way of worship when you made reference to the way Nnamdi Kanu's was praying. By the way, Nnamdi Kanu's faith is still similar to Christianity and its anything but Islam. Stop getting agitated about Islam, many people also say stuffs about Christianity

ollah1:
It won't be a point this time since it's done by a belolved person who isn't a Muslim. Can you count the number of times, some commenters have said nasty things on how Muslims worships?

You honestly don't need to pretend sir, is it now a crime to pray on the streets? What do you mean by the bolded?

They are talking about Nnamdi Kanu praying and you brought up Islam. What has Islam got to do with the topic? What did you hope to achieve by comparing your religion with Christianity?

Who are these so-called youths? They must high on the 5naira dished out to them to earn cheap publicity.

Seriously though, if P-square really made that derogatory name-calling (ndi ala) towards the FG, then they deserved to be smacked on the butt

No shame at all

Excellent

Tampinu:
Sorry I misread your comment, as I would have expected something along the lines of:
"There's no need for the SUGGESTION for the Admin to bring money issues" or "I don't agree with the view that Admin should bring money issues..." etc

Instead what I read was:

"Yeah no problem. But my point is that there's no reason for the admin to bring up money issue, lest they run the risk inviting the EFCC under their roof!. Which sounded to me as though you had concluded that the Admin brough money issues!

Over and above all these, I think I have done the right thing by equivocally stating that it was not Admin policy because if I can misread your comments, there may be others who could have misread it too. So my disclaimer was right in order.

With thanks...

No your disclaimer wasn't in order at all because you just based your response on a single comment. Anyone who had been following the previous comments wouldn't have thought I was refering to the admin requesting for money and I expected you to know better because you knew from the beginning. I cannot write what you ''expected'' because everybody cannot reason like you. Therefore, it is for you to read and understand every comment deeply, not forgetting to link each comment to the poster's previous comments beacuse the comments were a continuum, so it shouldn't have ''sounded'' to you the way you potrayed it. Thanks

Tampinu:
No. And once again you have misunderstood my answers, perhaps deliberately, or by accident.

The aiding and abetting argument will not hold because there is a disclaimer that Nairaland does not support or tolerate cessesionist posts
Let me give an example of the context of the "Legal fund". Please follow me...

Say, I am an Adult and I run a nice cool hotel, my customers cause a nuisance to the community by parking their (customer's) vehicles discourteously and this has caused the local authority to threaten to fine and legally seek financial penalties against my hotel due to the afore mentioned nuisance parking.

Whereas the customers parking stupidly are adults who are capable of being responsible for their own actions and reserve the rights to free will; do take note that action is being directed (not at the customers) but at the hotel management!

Now, I have a disclaimer in Bold letters at the front of my hotel stating clearly, and unambigously that NUISANCE PARKING IS NOT ALLOWED HERE! I see nothing wrong in me writing to my customers to say that should any customers insist on parking discourteously (by claiming to be an adult and exercising his right to free will) despite repeated warnings to be civil with regards to parking at the hotel; I urge such fellow to pay into a "Legal Fund" to provide the Hotel with funds to address any potentially related legal battles as a result of the customer/contributor's conduct.

The above action will NOT mean that I am aiding an abetting nuisance parking in the community; to the contrary, it will mean that I am effectively tackling nuisance parking, because I doubt if any person will be willing to pay in that regard. It is meant to dissuade people from relying on the the "I am an adult and have free rights to say and do what I want" argument. Human nature dictates that people like items that are "free", cost-free, nothing to pay etc The reasoning goes that such people desperately needing to discuss Nigeria's break up (against the provisions of the constitution) will be more likely to go to other "free" platforms where their aspirations can be met without hitting them in the pocket!

Yes, you can say and do what you want, but it may have consequences, not only for you but also for the platform (Nairaland) where you have irresponsibly exercised that your right. The main question is this, whilst you are capable of defending your own side of the battle e.g, Police arrest, who will pay the legal and financial cost of the battles by the govt/Police against the platform that you have used to cause the problems? That's the question.

Only a selfish and irresponsible person will say:

"Yeah, I wanna come on Nairaland and say what I want....and I don't care how Nairaland deals with the aftermath of my conduct, e.g, Govt sensor on Nairaland, arrest of admin etc"

And, it may be better for such a person not to be on NL in the first place, it will be great for all concerned.

Peace

The example you gave doesnt correlate bro.

But let me quickly chip this in; NL has been existing for some time and the admin never deemed it fit to tow thesame line has your suggestion...do you think its propably because they never thought about what a ''bright'' idea it would be to start collecting this so-called ''legal fund''?? No! It is because it is highly non-existent! It can only exist in movies. LASTMA that charges for indiscriminate parking of vehicles are empowered to do that by the constitution of Lagos state.
Shalom.

Tampinu:
THE ADMIN DID NOT BRING UP MONEY ISSUES!!!


It was my suggestion and its only a suggestion not an admin policy on NL

Please take note.

Peace

Yes I never said the admin brought up money issues!!! I only referred to your suggestion that the admin should start charging people based on a comment.

Please read my posts and digest them rightly!!

Tampinu:
No, I think you have absolutely misconstrued my point and my reasoning; I am not asking people to pay money to me nor am I encouraging people to commit crimes after paying something.

What I have stated is that for those who are claiming that Nairaland Admin is denying them the freedom of opinion and freedom of expression, there is a potential legal consequences for allowing their "opinions/expressions" on Nairaland and I have only suggested a means of addressing that particular obstacle. Of course it is only a suggestion, I never supported cessession nor did I encourage it, I just reminded people that there are legal consequences and I suggested a method of meeting the requirements of that potential legal conequences.

Your alternative ideas are welcome if you hve n alternative ssuggetsion for dealing with any potential legl matters that arise; but unless people are willing to discuss and suggest options for dealing with any potential legal challenge, I think they just need to either accept Nairaland rules or go to other websites where their cessesionist causes are celebrated.

Many Thanks

Yeah no problem. But my point is that there's no reason for the admin to bring up money issue, lest they run the risk inviting the EFCC under their roof. Many people still clamour and shout 'biafra'' on NL threads but they know that they are responsible for whatever they post (just scroll down to the butom of this page, then you will see it clearly written there).

This is the essence of DISCLAIMERS. When you go to banks, most public places, shopping malls etc, you see a bold sign that VEHICLES/GOODS ARE PARKED/KEPT AT OWNERS' RISK. This is just a typical example of what the admin has done here and thats the basis of my argument that requesting for money will be a monumental fraud. Those banks or shopping malls never ask you to pay before you park your car or keep your goods, so that if it is stolen there'll be money for legal battle to prosecute suspects. Rather they warn you beforehand and I think Disclaimers are recognised by Law. I never misconstrute you at all. Shalom

Tampinu:
Moreover, the clamour for cessession would not 'legally' be a crime, rather it is an offence, a very serious offence against the state of Nigeria.
There is a legal difference between a crime and an offence, (maybe it's worth a google); Crimes are committed against a person directly affecting that person (Victim), whereas offences do not have to meet that threshold. Offences are victimless 'crimes' e.g, parking violations, littering, etc

Therefore, I am not asking people to pay to commit a "crime", I am simply asking for people to literally pay the legal costs of any potential government action that may be taken against Nairaland as a result of people allegedly exercising their "rights to freedom of opinion and expression" which the Nigerian State may consider to be a contumelious and lugubrious Federal Offence.

Hence the title of my post above re: "Freedom is Free but not FREE!" (That is, It's free to chat what you want, but it's not free to pay for the legal consequnces re: lawyers fees, bail money etc)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=856KLlyN2_8

Peace

Whether it is ''offence' or ''crime'' thats not the bone of contention here. The nucleus of my argument here is alowing people to ''pay'' for what you know will potentially land them in the law court. That is ''aiding and abeting''
Again, my argument is; you know something might cause people to face the law, yet you want them to ''pay'' in advance. Its like the police collecting money from armed robbers and then allowing them to rob innocent people. Is this rational?

Tampinu:
I hear you, but you and I know that when Naija MOPOL hold you for belt, they will not let go simply because of a single-line disclaimer that says the author is responsible for his comments or posts.

The best way for those willing to put their money where their mouth is will be for them to "fund" any potential legal bills or to go to other websites that naturally promotes cessessionist causes.

Yes, by having a draw at the end of each year, we will be engaging in another unifying activity and the poor people in a different part of the United Nigeria will be helped each year.

Peace

And asking people to pay money for them to be able to support seccession, are you not encouraging it that way? You want to collect money from people for you to allow them support break-up? So you'll ask people for money before they are allowed to commit crime? Lol.My friend that is when you'll be in big trouble.