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winner01:
On the contrary, atheism is getting ritualistic, its getting cult-like. I wouldn’t agree with some religious people that I’ve seen call atheism a religion, but I have noted that many atheists are quite religiously orientated themselves. Sam Harris notes a sort of “piety” in the atheist camp after some criticism was made of his work:

“…there is something cult-like about the culture of atheism. In fact, much of the criticism I have received of my speech is so utterly lacking in content that I can only interpret it as a product of offended atheist piety”.

I write once again that atheists regurgitate and repeat the same arguments and most especially "lines" of prominent atheists, this is cult-like. I follow foreign atheism a lot an this is why I know, I follow foreign atheism so that I can describe it to their Nigerian colleagues. Most of the examples I've given on atheist on this section are foreign.

If the atheist is free-minded, why can't many of them think independently. I think one of the mistakes of this generation is to think free thinking is exclusive to atheism.

Atheism is not ritualistic, dear friend. You cannot know better on both sides. You are only an authority in your Christendom. Referencing scientific findings of science does not make science ritualistic. There is more to being ritualistic than that. You, a religious person, should know this. Atheists think independently. It is only natural that they agree within each much more than religious people do since there is less contradictions in their circle. This does not mean they agree on all grounds.

winner01:
While I don't like to speak on Christians killing non Christians, I'd like to point out that Christ-ians are people who wish to be like Christ. If you're honest enough, you can judge the life of a Christian using the life of Christ.
I have no explanations for the misdeeds of Islam but to think atheists were not killing non-atheists is quite bias.

You are saying what Christians should be like. A touch of reality will do. How many of you are Christ-like? NONE

winner01:
It is estimated that in the past 100 years, atheistic communism have caused the death of somewhere between 158,368,610 to 259,432,000 human lives. Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that atheistic communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.

Theodore Beale notes concerning atheism and mass murder:
"Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …"

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is not least than 158 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.

The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.

Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation!


You're free to disagree with me, but here is verifiable evidence showing the bloodiness of atheists who have found their way to power.

These are effects of communism, bro. Communism is not atheism. Atheism is a religious concept. Communism is an economic and political system. Communism is based on materialism. It is a materialistic philosophy. It is amazing that when asked the killings of atheist, you bring out the death toll caused by the socioeconomic concept of communism. Communism is not an atheistic concept, there were Christian communists too. It just baffles me that each time a theist is asked to show the violence of atheism, he moves to communism but I am not surprised cause there is nothing they can hold onto. Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were all atheists, true. These atheists doubled as communists but atheists are not communists. The death toll mentioned was as a result of their faulty governance and incompetent planning and not their religious background. Both theists and theists died as a result of that. The only thing that remotely connects atheism and Communism is the Soviet anti-religious campaign which began in 1929. 'According to Wikipedia, 85.000 Orthodox priests were shot in 1937. The anti-religious enthusiasm dropped as a result of Operation Barbarossa (the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941). It is estimated that between 1917 and 1964, 50.000 monks have been executed. As you can see, we have numbers in the ten thousands here; a small number compared to the sum of all casualties (100 million) of the Soviet era caused by communism. Seeking out political dissenters and suspected spies was simply more important than persecuting believers'. It was clearly a war against anything anti-communism and believers were caught up in the middle as Christians communists had a slightly different view.

That a group of atheists who trusted so much in the communism concept completely lost it and ended up creating more mess does not in any way suggest atheism is the root cause. Hitler was initially a Catholic but no sane mind would attribute his atrocities to Catholicism. Most people, atheists and theists alike, condemn the activities of communists of the 20th century.

winner01:
As other atheists would say, communism has nothing to do with atheism, but with overflowing verifiable evidence, I'll step back and let the atheist communists do the talking.

Unfortunately, I might not have the time to visit your past threads. But I have made my own point above

winner01:
Do you still not think I can recognize hate when I see one?
Let's leave all the atheistic communism story and jump to atheists today, one would expect them to have learnt or evolved past the condescending stage right?

I'll go on to prove, undeniable, and with a pool of evidence, that majority of atheists today are still as hate-filled and angry as their predecessors.

Once again, I am to busy to go reading past threads. Atheists are not hate filled. They preach secularism. They want a society where religion is not a driving factor in general law making. They do not want you to burn churches just because your are a Muslim. They do not want you to refuse them marrying your daughter because they not share your believe. They not want you to say blood transfusion is illegal just cause one religion is against it. They do not want you to burn gay men because your religion is against homosexuality. They are saying, if you must ban any of these, present a logical reason aside religion. Nevertheless, If a violent atheist decides to run for presidency today, most atheists will still not vote for him because that will contradict the whole idea of disregarding religious background. Atheists are saying the leaders should not be chosen based on religious affiliations. Unfortunately, the religious folks do so.

winner01:
Lol, if Christians were as violent and conservative as you think they are, it will cost just a few lives to hold all of you to ransom, just like Islamic countries . May I remind you that Christianity constitute 1/3 of the total worlds population. We could simply have your voices, but no, resistance will be met by other Christians who are in fact Christ-like (like it happened during the transatlantic slave-trade era)

Christians of today are not really very violent people. I have friends from many religious backgrounds and Christians seem to be the most adorable. Maybe cause of my own background too. Christians tend to be docile now. I may not agree with their belief system but I wouldn't go out of my way to talk-trash them. I can mention the contributions of Christianity to the word even more than yourself. I am only saying non religious people are far more tolerant and accommodating than religious people which include Christians. I have not seen an atheists who decides to stop being friends with someone because he/she is religious. I have seen many Christians who would start avoiding you once they know your religious stance. They will always quote a part of the bible that advises us not to move with non believers. Lol.

winner01:
I've been on this section since 2015.

You have said it many times. I have been on NL for 7yrs. I was talking of the whole of NL and not just this section. This place if full of theists vs atheist threads so you will more theists here. On NL as a whole, Christians ridicule Muslims more that they ridicule Buhari. LMAO

winner01:
I can, and I will, right after my short reply. What I meant by atheists are just 5% is that, we would naturally see fewer examples of militant atheists than militant religious individuals given their smaller percentage.
Feel free to look up the few examples I can get my hands on;

But you can see more examples of their hatred/atrocities despite their few population. Isn't that a science of selectivity?

winner01:
Ted Kaczynski
American atheist and anarchist who killed 3 people and injured 23 others with a series of homemade bombs. His parents raised him as an "intellectual atheist," and he maintained, "I believe in nothing."


Gary Heidnick
Criminal from Pennsylvania who kidnapped, tortured, and raped 6 women, eventually murdering 2 of them, turning one into food and feeding her to the others. Though he founded a mock "church" on the side to receive tax exemptions, he said he had always been an atheist.


Brian Dugan
Serial killer who murdered 3 people and sexually assaulted several women in Chicago. He described himself as atheist to reporters and said he did not believe in heaven or hell, good or evil, calling them all "mad-made constructions."


Craig Stephen Hicks
Atheist mass murderer who killed 3 Muslim students in the 2015 Chapel Hill shooting. He regularly made online posts condeming all religions, described himself as an "anti-theist," was a supporter of “Atheists for Equality,” and was an outspoken fan of Richard Dawkins’ book The God Delusion.


Richard Kuklinski
American contract killer who murdered up to 250 people for the mob. He admitted to being an atheist, saying the Church was a sham and that if God really existed, there would be no violence in the world.


Jack Kevorkian
American pathologist and promoter of euthanasia who performed over 130 physician-assisted suicides and was eventually arrested for it. When asked if he believed in a god, he quipped, "Bach. At least I didn't make mine up."


Eric Harris
One of the two high school students who committed the "Columbine High School Massacre" in which they shot and killed 13 people and injured 24 others (before killing themselves). He had written in his journal that he did not want to do what "parents, cops, God, or teachers" tell him to do, making him, at the very least, a practical atheist (and notably, he never indicated he believed in God at all). As recorded on a video tape, Harris is seen saying, "Go Romans! Thank God they crucified that asshole." He was enamored with Charles Darwin's concept of "Natural Selection," writing, "Natural SELECTION!!!!!!!!!!! God damn it's the best thing that ever happened to the Earth. Getting rid of all the stupid and weak organisms. I wish the government would just take off every warning label. So then all the dumbasses would either severely hurt themselves or DIE!" On the day of the shooting, he wore a t-shirt with the label "Natural Selection" written across it.


Dylan Klebold
The other one of the two high school students who committed the "Columbine High School Massacre" in which (once again) they shot and killed 13 people and injured 24 others (before killing themselves). Recorded on video tape, he is seen cheering with Harris for the Romans because they crucified Christ ("that asshole" as Harris put it). Also on video tape, Klebold said he disliked one of his classmates, Rachel Scott, calling her a "Christian, Godly little LovePeddler," suggesting than he was not only an atheist but an anti-theist as well. Klebold and Harris made her the first victim of the Columbine shooting. After shooting her once, he asked, "Do you still believe in God?" to which she said, "You know I do." He then mocked, "Go be with with him," shooting her in the head.


Kimveer Gill
Canadian mass shooter and self-described atheist who perpetrated the "Dawson College shooting," in which he shot and killed 1 and injured 19 others, before shooting himself in the head. In addition to being a fan of the Columbine High School Massacre, he had written on his website, "I hate this world, I hate the people in it, I hate the way people live, I hate God, I hate the deceivers, I hate betrayers, I hate religious zealots, I hate everything ... I hate so much ..."


Kip Kinkel
Atheist High Schooler who shot and killed both his parents. The next day he went to school and shot and killed 2 students as well as wounded 35 others in the "Thurston High School shooting." He said, "If there was a God, he wouldn't let me feel the way I do. There is no God, only hate."


Michael Adam Carneal
A self-professed atheist who went to a religious youth group in Kentucky and began shooting them after the opening prayer, murdering three girls and wounding five others.


Seung-Hui Cho
South Korean mass shooter who killed 32 students (before killing himself) in the "Virginia Tech Shooting." He apparently had become an atheist, having dropped out of his church, and, according to his roommate, had "railed against his parents' strong Christian faith."


Matti Juhani Saari
Finnish atheist who shot and killed 10 people in the "Kauhajoki school shooting," before committing suicide.


James Holmes
American mass murderer who was convicted on 24 counts of murder and 140 counts of attempted murder, having shot up a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, which was playing the film "The Dark Knight Rises" while he was dressed as the Joker. He had labelled himself an agnostic on an online dating service website (which, according to some atheists, would make him qualify as an atheist).


Jeffrey James Weise
Ojibwe student who killed 9 and injured 7 people at Red Lake Senior High School, after which he then shot himself. His behavior during the shooting spree indicated militant atheism as a motive. He shot a female teacher in response to her saying, "God be with us," and then turned and asked a student, "Do you believe in God?" to which the student answered, "No," and consequently spared the student and proceeded to find alternate targets.


Elliot Rodger
Atheist mass murderer who killed 6 people and injured 14 others at the University of California, Santa Barbara, using multiple guns and knives, and then committed suicide. He had written in his journal: "I am the closest thing there is to a living god. Humanity is a disgusting, depraved, and evil species. It is my purpose to punish them all."


Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer
Mass murderer from California who killed 9 people at Umpqua Community College in Oregon, the deadliest shooting in the state's history. He described himself as an atheist on his MySpace page and asked multiple people if they were Christians and then shot them after they answered yes.


Pekka-Eric Auvinen
Finnish student and Nazi enthusiast who shot and killed 8 people before killing himself in the "Jokela school shooting." He described himself as a "godlike atheist," having said, "I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit."


Jared Lee Loughner
Atheist mass shooter in the 2011 Tucson shooting, killing 6 people (including a U.S. District Court Judge) and injuring 13 others (including a U.S. Representative). He was an outspoken critic of US currency having the phrase "In God We Trust," repeatedly mocked all religion (especially Christianity), and said Karl Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" was one of his favorite books.


John Hughes
Atheist serial killer from the Isle of Man who confessed to killing 15 or more people. He compared himself to the Anti-Christ and told reporters he did not believe in God.


Israel Keyes
Atheist serial killer from Utah who murdered 8 or more people before killing himself.


Seth Privacky
American mass murderer who killed 5 people, including his parents, brother, and grandfather, telling people that he had been raised with "an atheistic, or agnostic, view to life."


Jeffrey Dahmer
Atheist serial killer who murdered 17 people. He tortured, raped, dismembered, and cannibalized several of his victims. He credited his atheism for being the reason why he killed people, saying, "If it all happens naturalistically, what's the need for a god? Can't I set my own rules? Who owns me? I own myself."


David Berkowitz
Atheist serial killer who murdered 6 people and wounded 7 others. He claimed he was involved with a Satanic cult but also said he did not believe in God.


Leonard Lake
Californian serial-killer and atheist who, along with his co-conspirator Charles Ng, murdered 11 to 25 people.


Dennis Nilsen
British serial killer, homosexual necrophiliac, and atheist who strangled 12 men to death.


Ted Bundy
Atheist serial killer who murdered 30 to over 100 people.


James Oliver Huberty
American mass shooter and atheist who shot and killed 21 people, injuring 19 others, in the "San Ysidro McDonald's massacre."


Andrei Chikatilo
Soviet serial killer who killed and cannibalized 53 people. He confessed that Communism had a negative effect on him and that his atheism inspired him with anxiety which caused his mind to "split."


Jim Jones
American Marxist who transformed a group of church members into a Communist cult, wherein his fanatical followers would commit suicide on his command, resulting in a mass suicide of over 900 people (some of whom were forcibly killed, including children). He said that he "took the church and used the church to bring people to atheism."


Alvin Lee King III
A former teacher at a Texas high school, where he was known to be an outspoken atheist, who burst into a church with a rifle and a pistol, murdering 5 Christians and wounding at least 10 others (later hanging himself in his jail cell).


Bhagat Singh
Indian Marxist who opposed Gandhi's philosophy of non-violence and murdered a police officer and threw bombs into a crowd, causing injuries but fortunately no deaths. He wrote a work called "Why I am an Atheist," saying, "Where is God? What is He doing? Is He getting a diseased pleasure out of it? A Nero! A Genghis Khan! Down with Him!"


Paul Jaworski
Polish Atheist and gangster in Cleveland, Ohio, who killed up to 26 people. Before his execution, he was offered to see a chaplain but responded, "I preached atheism since the day I quit singing the choir. A man is yellow if he spends his life believing in nothing and then comes crawling to the church because he is afraid his death is near."


Carl Panzram
American criminal and atheist who murdered 21 people, raped over 1,000 people, and committed multiple burglaries, robberies, larcenies, and arsons. He said, "I don't believe in man, God nor Devil. I hate the whole damned human race, including myself... I preyed upon the weak, the harmless and the unsuspecting. This lesson I was taught by others: Might makes right."


Marc Lépine
Canadian Atheist who shot and murdered 14 women and wounded 14 others and then shot himself in the [i]"Montreal Massacre." His mother reported that he was "a confirmed atheist all his life."


Timothy McVeigh
American terrorist who was convicted of the Oklahoma City Bombing, which killed 168 people and injured over 600 others (the deadliest terrorist attack prior to September 11, 2001). He informed the press that he did not believe in God.


David Roland Waters
An atheist and office manager of the organization called "American Atheists" who murdered 4 people.



According to history bro, atheists has inflicted more terror than Muslims. See earlier evidence.

Lol... I read the first set of crimes here and I can see you spooled out a list of past crimes where the culprits happened to be atheists. Really, that is your point? You think the whole of NL will be enough to write down past crimes where the culprits were found to be Christians? All the crimes we on NL front-page alone will be enough. Brotherly, when people kill in the name of their gods, we attribute it to the religion not when someone commits a crime and we eventually release he is from a part uvular religion, we start saying the religion is the cause. That is, in fact, one of the issues with theists.

winner01:
Do you agree that we have not fully let go of our African spiritual system? This was my point in that reply.

You want me to believe the deeds of these people have nothing to do with their stance as Christians but as a result of their African spiritual system? You may be right. But it bothers me that you do not want to believe that the deeds of Malo and other communists have noithing to do with their religion or lack of it but as a result of the political/economic school of thought.

winner01:
Don't misunderstand me bro. The human nature is capable of hate and crimes, in the absence of theism, atheism, politics etc, humans will find something else to base their evils on. This thread was simply intended to give scientific proof, backing the possible effects of words on personal health and society. You can disregard the scientific research given if you will, I'm simply driving at a point.

Who would have known we'd ever agree on something? Pheww....

winner01:
I did an M.Sc in social sciences, apart from sciences. And one of the things I learnt during my research is that: regardless of the percentage of your population, a reasonable sample size, randomly selected, representing the population, can provide a valid instrument for your research.

I did my M.Sc. in Mathematical Sciences, bro. I was only saying if 5% is enough, it is enough. If it is not, it is not. If it is not enough to measure violence, it is also not enough to measure good deeds.

winner01:
Maybe there are no atheist leaders, but more often than not, we have majorit7y of atheists repeating arguments from Dawkins, Harris, Krauss, Singer, Hitchens and co. And we often have these guys seeing nothing wrong in ridiculing religious people with contempt.

People ridicule people especially those who don't share their views. I'm not saying otherwise. I'm only saying it's not a function of atheism. The way Christians on NL mock and trash-talk Islam is enough to drive home this point.

winner01:
If this master is anyone other than Jesus Christ, then I strongly disagree. However, several historians and nonreligious scholars have recorded the kind of life that Jesus lived. Contemporary atheists on the other hand are becoming more like their religious counterparts. You need not look too deep in the arguments for Gods existence before you can identify an atheist. I gave sufficient proof in the op. Swear words, curses and rage seem to be increasingly peculiar to many online atheists. Many honest atheists also seem to agree with me.

I said it before and I'm saying it again, picking a theists choice of words from a church group is the most ridiculous research ever. A research we know the outcome before embarking on. Your school WhatsApp group would have been a better sample. No one, myself inclusive, would go to church group and not try conform. On the other hand, the atheists wouldn't use such words in an office, for example. What I'm saying here is that the word stuff doesn't prove a thing. It's all messed up by environmental factors.

winner01:
Not much is new about the New Atheists other than their increased intensity of vitriol and anti-religious polemic. But such tactics don’t hold water with everyone, many atheists included. According to atheist Gary Wolf:

“The New Atheists have castigated fundamentalism and branded even the mildest religious liberals as enablers of a vengeful mob. Everybody who does not join them is an ally of the Taliban. But so far, their provocation has failed to take hold… I take this as good news. Even those of us who sympathize intellectually have good reasons to wish that the New Atheists continue to seem absurd. If we reject their polemics, if we continue to have respectful conversations even about things we find ridiculous, this doesn’t necessarily mean we’ve lost our convictions or our sanity. It simply reflects our deepest, democratic values. Or, you might say, our bedrock faith: the faith that no matter how confident we are in our beliefs, there’s always a chance we could turn out to be wrong”.

According to the “father of secular humanism” Paul Kurtz: “I think they are atheist fundamentalists. They’re anti-religious and they’re mean spirited, unfortunately. Now, they are very good atheists and very dedicated people who do not believe in God. But you have this aggressive and militant phase of atheism, and that does more damage than good”.

Likewise philosopher Michael Ruse has been one of the most skeptical voices on New Atheists such as Dawkins. Ruse would say that: “The God Delusion makes me embarrassed to be an atheist and the McGraths show why”.

Michael Shermer notes the existence of atheistic fundamentalism within science; he complains that “Since the turn of the millennium, a new militancy has arisen among religious sceptics… Whenever religious beliefs conflict with scientific facts or violate principles of political liberty, we must respond with appropriate aplomb. Nevertheless, we should be cautious about irrational exuberance”.

Dearest, there's something you're not getting. Atheism is not ritualistic. There's no layed down rule. There's no master file or holy book or leader or anything of such. So quoting these supposedly atheistic authors who have lent voices to their opinionated conclusions may not really carry much weight. I love their intelligence. I have quoted some of them before but you will see other atheists who do not agree with these authors. Think of it, a man who probably grew up a Christian and later decided the bible is written by man and not worth it; is it the works of these authors he'd follow religiously? An atheist is a free minded individual. That is why it is hard for theists to comprehensively decipher a way to address theism.

But all the same, I appreciate these works of research. You probably read these stuffs more than myself . I personally believe the idea of drawing a line between old and new atheists is just a matter of convenience. But then, most such divisions are. The fact is, humans are evolving generally. While the so-called old atheists could have been more aggressive in conversations and less tolerant, Christians were already killing non Christians in other countries. Inter-religious wars were at their peaks. Christans had something to kill for. Muslims had something to kill for. This wasn't the case for the so-called old atheists. There was simply no reason to kill. Fast forward to years later, they are the ones tagged angry and hate-filled.

If there's anything to pick from these guys' books, it's the notion that they were sincere enough to admit that things weren't/aren't so smooth on their own end. They dared to point out errors of past members of their team and criticised it. That's what atheism is all about, freedom of expression of one's mind without striving to defend another person's actions or opinion if found wanting. But you'd rather use it against them. Imagine if Christians were judged with the act of their past members, we'd just kill all of you. Lol.

winner01:
This is rather ridiculous, i for instance have
been posting on social media for years without the fear what people would think. Policing also may infact be a good thing. You can't argue that law and order is to some extent influenced by policing e.g the police. The DLA research is rather suggestive. I'll prefer to be around those who use peaceful words than those who use swear words and curses. I can almost guess whom you'll also like your children to be around regardless of their hidden behaviours.

I think I've addressed these word thing enough. I'd rather keep my kid with someone that shouts "Bleep" every morning than with a pastor that will pull her pant in front of the congregation in the name of deliverance.

winner01:
Its weird that you don't think atheists are also in the business of converting theists to their own belief systems, why else's would you waste your time trying to tell me about your own views, especially considering the fact that I already live a peaceful and productive life. No matter how you twist this, you can't disprove the fact that majority of atheists online and ridicule theists especially Christians. If you want, I'll give you quotes of atheists right here on nairaland and then you can tell me if its ridiculous or not.

I'm here with you cause you brought up a topic I find worthwhile, bro. Not to convert you. Your religion is is not my problem provided you don't hurt others though I'll still engage logically if you find it worthwhile to challenge my views. I'll only rise against you when I see stuffs like pastors shaving armpits, boko haram killing peeps, etc. No one promised me heaven when I convert others nah. Tell me, which will you see more on NL, atheists ridiculing theists or Christians mocking Islam? A sincere response is enough.

winner01:
You may have a point here, but just like the DLA research suggests, words such as Bleep, sh*t, retarded, dead, death, kill, drunk etc are suggestive. This explains why many coroprate individuals refrain from some of those words on T.V. If I was a psychologist for instance, trying to help a temperamental person, I'll encourage the use of more peaceful words especially during arguments. You also seem to suggest that theists seem more angry with the examples of ISIS, Boko haram and Co.

Here we go again...

winner01:
Firstly, you must understand that atheists account for less than 5% of the total worlds population, and of course this will also have an influence on the number of violence committed by several atheists. However on request, I can give you sufficient examples of atheists of our generations, comitting violence simply because they don't believe in God.

You can't. Meanwhile, you're saying atheists are just 5% and that's not sufficient to compare the overall violence commited by the two parties but you tend to lose sight of the fact that that little percentage is what makes it so easy for you to generalize about them. If 5% is to small for such comparison, then everything you've been typing about atheists being more hate filled is based on what? 5% is not too small to know who's more angry and hate-filled but too small to know who's more violent?

winner01:
Secondly, while I don't have any explanation for Islam, I can provide facts that prove that atheists have committed more terror than Islam ever will provided Islamic adherents continue to kill people at this rate for then next 50years. So if the actions of Islamic adherents is your reason for thinking they are more hate filled than atheists, you're wrong.

Hhmm... you said atheists population is 5% and that has effect on the violence rate from the circle. This implies it will be unfair to compare violent rates. Now, you have successfully compared violent rates regardless of the little population and have come to a conclusions that atheists have commited more terror. This does not seem to tally but then, maybe I'm the one not getting it. I'll just flow with you. As regards the point raised, I do not believe you. I'm surprised you even slightly suggested atheists have inflicted more terror than Muslims.

winner01:
Thirdly, those who killed or burnt people in the name of their religion, I'll like to know their religion. Certainly not the religion named after a MAN who stood against religious zealots ready to stone a prostitute.
Nigeria, like many African countries may seem to have adopted many foreign religious views, but you certainly cannot deny that we still retain some of our spiritual systems and beliefs. We were killing our twins before Mary slessor, a christian missionary, arrived.

Their religions are Christianity, Islam, etc. That's not to undermine the contributions of our dear Mary Slessor.

winner01:
In ile Ife, osun state, some scholars are of the belief that the oracle demands for 1 full fledged human daily for sacrifice. Virginity was a big deal across Yoruba land, wicked witches and wizards were publicly disgraced after the oracle exposed them. I can give many examples of barbarism in several traditional African religions.

Many of these beliefs are retained among many Africans. Nigeria is not an exception. Jungle justice is still the order of the day. These are culturally oriented. How would you stone a sinner and claim to want to emulate a MAN who protected sinners .Moreover who made such people judges over other humans.

Nigeria is suffering majorly from the effects of corruption and bad governance, which have given birth to tension, frustrations, poverty induced ignorance, abuse of human rights etc. which unfortunately affects several other African countries.

You're quick to push the shortcomings of theism to other factors but strive to convince me the acts of your atheists friends are as a result of atheism. That's the difference between you and those authors above. Lol.

winner01:
In foreign countries, I've seen churches organise programs where members prepare free snacks in public for anybody interested, regardless of their beliefs. I've seen a foreign church bus park outside a club to help those who are too drunk to drive or go to their homes, and several other charitable acts. Do I also need to mention that Christianity runs the largest charity in the world? Is this the same Christianity we observe in Nigeria? If not, what's wrong? Maybe culture and traditional beliefs, maybe ignorance and illiteracy, maybe none of the above.

True but don't forget theists constitute 95% so we can't compare such things

budaatum:
I like you!

I like you too bro!

Awww.... I wanted to click but had those same issues.

Brother, there's nothing like "their leader". Atheists do not have a leader. Atheism do not need any leadership/follwership life pattern. If one person decides to ridicule people, it's his business. If one sticks around with abusive, inconsiderate and cold hearted friends, let him not blame it on atheism; he should change his friends.

In case you don't get my point yet, I am saying it's much easier to find common traits in theists than in atheists. This is apparently because typical theists normally share common teachings. They usually have a common master whom they strive to emulate giving rise to them exhibiting certain similar characteristics. Atheists, on the other hand, are free individuals with little to no peculiar life style. What each person exhibits is usually a function of his/her personality and has nothing to do with atheism.

The word-use research could be true though. In fact, it makes perfect sense that members of a Facebook church group shoulshould be using words like church, brother, sister, prayer, etc. What else would one be expecting? Atheists are freerer with words on social media as no "brother" or "sister" is there to police them. Most of them may or may not use these words at their work places just like most theists may use dirtier words outside their religious groups online. But then, these do not prove anything and do not in any way suggest atheists are angry people.

Atheists like to argue. They feel they have superior points and find it easy and funny pointing out the flaws of religion. Theists like to argue, they feel they have seen the light. They feel it's their job to convert you. They say heavenly stuffs are like foolishness to the mundane mind so they look at the atheists with pity. Lol. The only difference is that theists don't see it as argument. To them, they are doing the work of converting soules. They don't feel bad calling you "blind" or "lost soul" or "ignorant". But then this, to you, is not ridiculing of course. Point here is, it's difficult to be a judge and a partisan at the same time.

There are many stuffs I could say against atheists but calling them angry people is not one of them. Some times, they even refrain from telling you their religious stance just not to make you angry. Lol. They are very welcoming and open minded individuals, I'd say. When next you want to know who's more angry and hate-filled between theists and atheists, keep in mind that ISIS, Boko-haram, etc. are not atheists. Also recall that those that burnt the gay guys caught in the East in the name of "our religion is against it" are not atheists. Nigeria is a country made of more than 90% theists and what's the outcome? Intolerance, outright hatred, killings and all sorts of unspeakable things against one another all in the name of religion. And yet atheists are the one supposedly filled with anger and hate. I don't know..... bro, it just doesn't add up.

Nice write-up though. Keep the good work.

Hhmm... I pity the female gender in Africa.

Before you criticise these women, kindly note that they are only evidences of a messed up society. A society where men are faultless and marriage is a do or die affair. Ladies get married out of societal pressure. A single lady is almost worthless. Regardless of what Linda Ikeji, Rita Dominic or Genevieve Nnaji achieves today, you'll still see nairalanders calling them out for not being married; even our supposedly educated younger generation. Why won't they take any shit to save their marriage when they eventually get married? If the lady in question leaves the marriage, we'll still call her out for being a divorcee and not being able to keep a home. It's always the lady. How many of us here would marry a divorcee or a spinster?

The men here may not understand this. The unmarried ladies here may not. Only a few actually knows what a woman passes through to keep a home and many here would do the same if found in such position. Nobody wants to be an object of mockery; no thanks to our messed up society.

Bottom line is, we're all the forces behind the terrible advices above. Always look at the mirror and talk to the person there in.

Say no to #WhenWillSheGetMarried!!!

Octaves:
Que Dieu ne le permet pas. parce que ce pays sera completement detruit. il a rien a offrir les Nigerians. il est trop vieux physiquement aussi que dans le cerveau. que Dieu nous empechera cette genre de desastre.

Hahaha... doucement !

As-tu obtenu ton pvc ? C'est ça, le principal !

Dieumerci1:
You can contact me if you need a private French teacher. I am a French language instructor/lecturer. You contact me via josephodion@yahoo.com

Bro don convert the thread to marketing opportunity sharp sharp.

#LNY

Lol... nice thread.

I bet a lot of language skills will be displayed here today

Well, I speak Yoruba, Igbo, French and Mandarin Chinese (I write with piyin not hanzi). I've tried.

Octaves:
cette regime de Buhari ne fait du bien a personne. mais je remercie Dieu

Mdr ... j'espère que vous avez entendu dire qu'il demande un second ténor. Alors préparez-vous pour quatre autres années de "Changement" selon l'évangile d'APC. Ce pays me fatigue hein...

Octaves:
bonjour Mon ami. comment ça va

Ça va comme sur des roulettes. La vie dit quoi à ton côté là ?

Octaves:
eh bien. je veut simplement pratiquer la langue.

Ah bon. Bonjour, patron.

DavidEsq:
So if OP hasn't had sex till now, why shld ejaculation be the cure being prescribed ni?

Ok, bro.

Have a great weekend ahead!

OSUigbo:
Frustration may kill you asap

What nonsense hardwork are you talking about?

Sheer luck or hardwork?

Lol... see who's talking about frustration.

You follow cr7, you don't follow her. How would you know? You can't claim not to be her fan and still know about her life endeavours. If you're not willing to read a little documentary about her, then just leave her alone instead of hating on someone who doesn't even know you exist.

Anyway, be there and be waiting for sheer luck while life passes you by.

I'm done with you.

Bonsoir à tous. Vous allez bien, j'espère.

Octaves:
tu ne veut pas repondre a ma commentaire sur le fil francophone depuis a peu pres 2 ou 3 semaines. je suis tres interessé de causer en Francais avec toi.

Pardon, j'aimerais savoir; tu veux écrire en français ou bien tu veux tout simplement causer avec elle ?

Such a sensational write-up.

DavidEsq:
Na me out am dere. How sperm dey take old

Bro, you could have just asked this without the drama you tried to put up there.

Yes, sperm can get old. It has it's life cycle after which it's ejaculated or broken down to make way for the new ones produced by the body. If eventually broken down, the constituents are reabsorbed into the male body. The max life span is 74 days.

DavidEsq:
Old spam abi sperm . Bros Wetin be dis na?

Sorry, where did you see spam?

Mac2016:
Football is a language everyone understands although music is called a universal language but I believe football is more popular than anyone's individual album! CR7; a planet named after him sef...COSMOS Redshift 7. Salute!!!

Cr7 maybe more popular but it's not about football and music, bro. Music is far more universal, ask the Indians.

By the way, none of these peeps have gotten anywhere close to Micheal Jackson's popularity.

OSUigbo:
who is beyonce

Just one singer with inflated pride feeling like a goddess.

She's not even following anyone on twitter and some fools are following her.

Ifa hear say I follow her

No be fight, oga. Don't kill yourself.

You ask, you answer. Only you.

Must you hate? Ronaldo is not proud, abi?

She has her fan base just like cr7 and works as hard to earn her reputation. She got into the spotlight even before cr7. She may not be as popular, she may not be your best but don't undermine her hard work. It's not easy!

abiolamitodun:
am 27 yes old and am still having wet dreams why?

Bro, relax. It's natural. Nothing spiritual.

Wet dream is the body's natural way of getting rid of old sperm when one has not had sex nor wanked for a while. In order for the release to occur, the brain triggers some intense imagery (the dream) from your miscellaneous thoughts or prior images in your memory.

Awaitingkopa:
Looking old

She looks her age. Since when did it become bad to get older?

ebenholer:
My brother BBNAIJA has been a trending news every day and in most media news. In as much as I desire to avoid news on it, it keeps coming my way often through all media blogs I come across.

So you can no longer get your pvc cause of that?

Then with the world cup coming, we all should forget about the election nah. Lol.

Some of you are supporting the governor because it's bbn involved and it's obviously not your favourite show. Would it have made any difference if it were football distracting us from the economic downturn of the country? Would the governor have said this and would we have maintained the same stance on the dialogue?

If you want to criticise the youth, be holistic about it. Y'all left the part where he mentioned upcoming tournaments as feasible distractions but focused on bbn when it's even possible the guy himself is more of a football fan than that of bbn.

If the youths are distracted, we are distracted; if we're not, we're not. Don't be selective as it pleases you, that's sheer lack of integrity.

Okoroawusa:
Buhari is not afraid of anything or anyone. He is just trying to avoid ppl like u that will cry foul if he quickly agrees with the National Assembly.

tesppidd:
people like you have never asked why the senators are afraid of maintaining the status quo they met in ground.

hypocrite!

If the senators served well would they be afraid of any order?

You guys don't get it. The order of election matters to Buhari as well as everyone else. This is because the outcome of the presidential election heavily influences the outcome of others. If Buhari fails at the national level, it'll be doom for APC at the other levels. Dispite every plan that might have been made, Buhari isn't so sure of himself anymore (this is understandable given the numerous plots to take him out) thus the reason why he wouldn't want to change the order of election.

On the other hand, the new order would serve to ensure elections at other levels are void of external influences.

Good morning.

lordraiden:
that's your own opinion man and understanding man ... Leave mine alone

You obviously cannot engage in a logical discussion.

See Sambarry's response to the same question I asked you. Compare it with yours above and see how intellectually deprived yours is. You simply were not able to communicate.

SAMBARRY:
no .just guide or encourage.forcing always achieves the direct opposite.I'm a living witness.btw Christianity is a personal relationship.the same way it is impossible to force 2 people to be friends is the same way you cannot force worship.for instance I can introduce Mr Keswick as my friend to you but it is your prerogative to decide whether or not you want to be friends with him even if I were your mother.the friendship happens naturally when it's not forced.but when I force him on you it becomes more of a fake friendship.that's the same thing with God

What you're saying in essence is that parents should do the little they could why they pray to God to do the rest? Now, that's more encouraging than the guy above who made it sound like the parents have no role than to sit and pray.

lordraiden:
Wen children grows they choose thier path.... Even a child you train in the church might grow up to become a terrorist..... Just pray always that God touches thier conscience

What's your point?

So parents shouldn't bother doing anything; just pray?

We Africans though.

Thewesterner:
Cabbage in... Cabbage out

garbage in garbage out*

Ekite:
Good day sir.
Using the analogy of typewriter and computer to illustrate manual and automatic is a lil bit odd. Doesn't match.
Still, I prefer my manual for now.
When I buy automatic, I may reassess.
Regards

I believe the analogy is perfect, bro. Like you said, the argument would have been much better if you had both at your disposal; otherwise, it's loopsided.

lightblazingnow:
Have you also thought of the number of jobs and the resources the churches of God Almighty have generated to the government and economy. Do you know how many people are working under the platform of the church employments.

Do you that many people would have been jobless, without the activities of the churches.

When you complain of where you are pained, talk of the benefits of the Glorious church of God Almighty in the world.
God Almighty bless you all, happy Sunday

You mean those that work with church establishments like schools and other church owned enterprises?