IamAnderson: See what I said earlier? You are now focusing on my untrained impure CO to make it look like you're right about your claims We both know im not a dog trainer so why not focus on the dogs of other professional dog trainers like the ones I posted let's see if you were right about the things you said
Bros, I really dont know y u re pained. The fact that someone picked a particalar breed doesnt mean he has not worked with others. You are taking this argument too emotional, probably cos u own a cauc. I do not own a malinois either, but I have owned a Gsd, Cauc, rott, Boerboel, Neopolitan mastiff, local dogs. I may also not be a proffesional dog trainer, but I have seen trainers work thier dogs, A caucasian is a strong breed, a good guard dog, but when u want to get a work done effectively, you dont use a caucasian. I didnt wanna speak on this thread again because it seemed like u ve already made up ur mind, nd no one can try convince u.
There are so many things a malinois will do, that a caucasian cant be used for as regards guarding. When Olumoadebayo is talking about first hand experience, he is not saying it to rub it on ur face, but to make u understand that its not just by seeing on videos, u need to go out of ur way and watch how these breed of dogs are handled, u watched videos which dey uploaded, but u didnt know how dey got dere, u didnt see d rigorous training nd task carried out, a cauc will not handle d training a malinois will. Guarding and also been used for general security goes beyond barking nd attacking an intruder as depicted in d screenshots u uploaded. Now this staged scenerio u uploaded, arent dey like scenes? But forget abt dt, lets take dis scenario, u parked ur car to open ur gate wit ur glass down, you have a cauc and malinois in ur compound, a car jacker, quickly entered ur car and wanna drive away, which of those dogs would be able to stop the car thief?
If u check some of my thread, I visited a known cauc breeder, there is this guy pumba, he is big and fvcking aggresive, his size is an added advantage in taking an intruder down, but there are so many things that pumba cant do, even if trained, pumba cant be given the task that a malinois will do.
When I talk about effectiveness, u should say malinois. I am not saying malinois is the best in the world, we also have the Working Gsds that do what Malinois do.
Do not take this personal, am not trying to support anybody. To an average Nigerian, an aggressive big dog like cauc an co is sufficient, but to a proffesional dog trainer, what they look at is efficiency nd effectiveness. The videos u uploaded, check the trainers out and see the dogs they keep, do a background check, do not jst watch d videos of dogs they train
agboedeh: thanks,its good to know that our argument educated some people.having a dog is more than just feeding it.U need to dedicate ur time and effort into training .The type of training depends on d breed.I currently own a local dog but am I preparing to devote 15 years into making them a standard breed.I am studying d behaviour of my dog, doing my research online ,seeking advise from other experienced breeders cos I see a lot of potential in my dog.
Bro we all had that dream for local dogs, until reality hits us, the local breed are extreme mutts, any attempt to bring a foreign breed would taint dem more, ur 15 years may become longer. Let me guess, dis is ur first or second year of ur project, I will keep tab in 5 years time lets see if u still have dis vision
Hmm, question is what in that video that shows a kangal is a good guard dog. They are big, scary, aggresive nd hard to control, is that y its a good guard dog? A dog that cannot percieve an actual threat?
IamAnderson: know wrestling is fake and would you use taekwondo as a metaphor for a dog fight or wrestling? will the dogs need to do skills or just bite each other an try to inflict the most damage? dog fights are nothing like taekwondo, even this village wrestling that people call egelege do you need to be lighter or stronger? and BTW, a malinois is considerably weaker than a CO or kangal and I never said a weak man I said a weaker man
Are we still talking about a better guard dog or a dog fight? Cos I can remember in my earlier post, wit "max" as a ref, I said, "if it were a show of strength, the rotts will devour d mali" but does that make it a better guard dog?
abbeg: Okay.I understand your point.But it's still exaggerated. The people in the white house have their reasons(maybe it's for running down intruders and holding them till a handler comes not engaging them which is how Russians use their Caucasians) But the truth is mastiffs and co are still better guard dogs.It's in their blood.Malinois are more like special forces.Elite troops for precise operations.Mastiffs and lgd are more like tanks.Just go there and fight!! A thief is more likely to subdue a malinois than a kangal.I read somewhere how a thief killed a police malinois set on him with a penknife.If it was a Caucasian it would have ended differently. But then Caucasian aren't fast enough.Also big dogs tend to be lazy 'and only use energy when necessary.Most are also very stubborn (Caucasian) and that isn't a desirable trait for most people.So overall each is good in its own field. But if it were to come down to a fight... Big dog wins.Uncontested. ( gra gra doesn't apply when it comes to one on one)
I agree with ur special troop analysis, they are used when precision nd effectiveness is utmost priority
IamAnderson: So you're saying if a smaller weaker but flexible man is determined to beat a burly fighter he will be able to do so? why do you think fighters work on packing on mass when training? with your logic, they should be loosing muscle mass and work on their agility instead the funny thing is that even in wrestling matches, the fighter's weight is also stated showing that it matters....you can't weigh 30kg and expect to take down someone weighing 300kg even if a malinois should bite a Caucasian, with it's weak bite force and small head it'll only get a mouth full of fur Once again, script is not reality Stop quoting all these sayings of people that didn't know better lmao
u mentioned wrestling, which is an actual staged play, real sports like taekwondo, even kungfu and d rest, a fighter should be lighter, u can be built but not heavy, u must not exceed a particular weight, nd y is dt? D heavier u are, d lesser ur agility and ability to do certain moves. You mentioned weak, y would someone weak pick up a fight with a built guy, d comparison u made in relation wit weak is best depicted as a lhasa against a caucasian
abbeg: First of all max is a movie.Second it's a children's movie.Third it has a written and predetermined script.Fourth all the dogs were told what to do beforehand so it's not a good example.Fifth max was the hero of the movie so of course he was going to win.In real life that fight would have been ended very badly for max.And since it's a kid's film footage of a malinois strewn all over a place would have been disallowed.After all we have seen more unrealistic things happen in movies (small skinny girl beats up big burly man in so many films).A Rottweiler can stand its ground against 2 pittbulls or german shepherds(unless you're saying a malinois which is basically a smaller skinnier gsd can take out two pitts)Can a Doberman win an English mastiff?(Dobermans are kind of similar to malinois except they are more vicious,smarter,bigger and stronger and English mastiff likewise to rott) If the English mastiff wins then why can't two rotts decimate a single malinois?Yes malinois are good working dogs but let it stay there.Saying they are better guard dogs than dogs bred for that purpose is just silly.Basically every mastiff and lgd can win a malinois in a fight (They do it with wolves which are faster stronger and smarter than malinois) so i dont get the hype on this thread.Id sooner get a Pitt as a guard dog than a malinois.Stop hyping them.The hype is so much it's making me hate them.Comparing 30kg+ malinois to 200kg+ Caucasian Be honest,which would you pick to attack you? I tried resisting the temptation to derail this thread further but the hype was just getting out of hand.I'll delete this comment soon.
I knew someone will point out that its a movie, which is y I said, I may nt have a real life scenario to share, but wjat happened in Max, depicts what would happen in a real life scenerio.
Now answer my first question, What makes a dog a good guard dog?
Or do u think the White house didnt have access to Caucasians, b4 choosing a malinois over dem?
I mentioned in my earlier post that any big person can be used as a bouncer to scare people away, but to get a job done, you need someone flexible.
agboedeh: lol..I don't think I am right but know I am right. These things are fact and it can't change. U can go ahead believing what u want , am done arguing with u.
What makes a dog a good guard dog? Yall ve brought out fact about bite force, but are bites all what it takes to be a good guard dog? Caucasians and the rest are strong no doubt, but does it make it a good guard dog? Not every shreded guy can fight, If u are into fighting sports, u would know there are smaller guys who beat up giants due to thier skills. Malinois may not be as strong as a caucasian, but they are smart enuf to defeat a caucasian. I do not have an actual real life scenario to explain dis to u, but I will make reference to a movie, d movie showed wat will happen in a real life scenario, watch the movie "Max" two rottweillers were sent to take down a malinois, ofcourse in a show of strength dey will devour d malinois, but a malinois knows dis, it outsmarted dem by running them tired until he took his strike, nd it was severe.
Effectiveness is better dan muscles. Shreded men are used as bouncers to scare people away, but to take down a bad guy, espicially if its a chase, the smaller the better. And security agencies know dis. Work smart nd nt with power.
Mikeshine: Wow!! I've seen mine as well. Thanks so much.
Do u mind telling me what ur first 4 digits are? Since we applied around same time, our ID should be serially, abeg help a brother, my browsing history was deleted
distinction99: Please call her back and tell her that the reply we are getting is "sorry you have once submitted an application"
I called back, I was told she will get back to me, but no info yet. I figured they have no business with the recruitment now, as she seemed clueless of the "sorry" info. Right now that sorry info is workforce problem, so I advice u mail Mr Adam
NenyeCHEM: Guys is it possible the candidates ID is the same as the reference number on the Acknowledgment slip? Please someone help ooo.., I also thought I saved that but unfortunately I can not locate it on my notepad.
The reference number on my own acknowledgment slip ends with ***814. Who else have has one that ends with these numbers let me know if I should just use that at the ID?
Biko for those that saved and can still recover their own ID, can you show us a sample here? Thanks
Which acknowledgement slip? Are u mistekening Firstbank for Nestle?
mhd5757: If have seen some really fierce melonois, especially the ones they use as guard dogs, very vicious! They growl more than they bark with that their black mouth. They make excellent guard and protection dogs.
Nigeria security, forces nd even in airport use dem nw
Au79: everything I wrote up there is real and true tanks for your invaluable contribution
Lol, you are invaluably welcomed. I told you that it seems unreal, not that I said its fake. You know what to do, this is not something u should be confused about
MissRaine69: You are in the medical profession and you are actuallly second guessing the practicalities of safe sex? What manner of doctor are you? Do you reeally want to start your career with kids, a wife who won’t aide your developement in any way shape or form? You are dating mediocracy and nothing good has ever come out of dating a woman who has a mediocre mindset it’s like an anchor all it does is hold you in one sorry state of nothing. So why is SHE not on the pill? Why have both of you been screened for STI’s if the issue of unprotected sex is the issue? Your parents put you through medical school to get confused over such fuckery? What the fck is wrong with you? What’s wrong with some men?
Thank u for this, op is confused nd his question is irritating to my eyes coming from who he claims to be. Like what other advice is he seeking for? Are we nt d ones who would go to a doc for such advice? Doesnt seem real to mi