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Hmm...

The building is needlessly loud, brash, looks garish and cosmetic, which underlies shady workmanship, ugly interior, shaky foundation, and rot.

Just like Hushpuppy....

BMW cars are utter rubbish. Too expensive for a laundry list of faults and issues.

I prefer Volkswagen and Audi, the poor man's BMWs.

I miss my Passat CC.

benedictnsi:
Like she have stolen enough from the current government

Nope.

She didn't steal enough because she couldn't in this spartan, penny-pinching administration.

Thus she looks to an Atiku presidency where all looters and thieves will emerge from the woods for the inevitable feeding frenzy to be superintended by the grand patron of thieves, Atiku himself.

Her looting future is secure with Atiku.

psalmsmiles:
no offence but if christianity is a scam, then whats reality?
the big bam?? or some unrealistic scientific conclusions?
#GetSense

There's evidence for the big bang: cosmic microwave background (CMB), rapidly expanding space, galaxy redshift.

No astronomer or physicist worth his salt would dispute it.

But there's no tangible evidence your messiah ever existed.

It's all mythology and legend and a great dose of hocus pocus.

rheether:
Religion is a scam.

Christianity is a scam.

Nnamdi Kanu said they shouldn't post bail.

Let's see how he's gonna get 'em out.

francesawesome:
you are lost and you need to find yourself. Pray to God to give you the heart to believe

To believe in what? That all your gods of men are charlatans and swindlers?

I'll take my chances.

They wake up one day and claim they speak with god, they call heaven on their mobile phones, they take trips to heaven and see their abodes in the afterlife, they claim to heal the incurably sick, make barren wombs "fruitful", get you magical promotions at work, see your future, and fight satan on stage in front of thousands?

Please!

They're riding on your collective insanity to defraud you of your meager income.

If your pastors can heal, why do christians still go to hospital? If they're prophets, why can't they see their buildings collapsing? Why can't they foresee church massacres and road accidents and plane crashes?

Why can't they tell you all what's coming your way tomorrow?

They don't because they can't.

And they can't because they're mere mortals preying on your greed and gullibility and penchant for mysticism to rid you, deservedly, of your money so they can spend it on themselves and their girlfriends.

You're perfectly free to believe these conmen and blindly give them all your income and see them building universities and hotels and living the life while you sink deeper into the mire of decrepitude and despair.

But it won't make them any less of a fraud, and you a damn fool for falling for it every sunday.

Laryne:
When it happens you'll be one of the first they'll forcefully enlist int the Ngerian army to go and sacrifice your life... you think war is a joke!

They don't need to conscript me, I'll gladly volunteer just for the sheer joy of hammering igboes.

pastors everyday proving christians are getting scammed.

Serves the infidels right.

Laryne:
The federal government and IPOB, Biafran, Ijaws should tread with caution. This is not 1967... society is now sophisticated.
Federal government shouldn't just assume it can block supplies this time and the South south & South East shouldn't assume the have capable arsenals and guerrillas. ..

If the zombies is Maiduguri could almost bring Nigeria to a standstill the tactical Southerners should not be taken for granted.

Once more, tread with caution. .. this is not 1967!

Tactical southerners.

lols!

You deluded fools continue to amuse us.

Nigerian Military, please don't come back until you've slaughtered a million of those vermin and scoundrels.

The lying charlatan and con artist is here selling fluff to the gullible lost sheep.

And this lunatic is the leader igboes worship and expect to salvage their collective destiny.

Wetin consign biafrans with goings-on in Nigeria sef....

You're late to the party.


When Apple is announcing iPhone 7s and iPhone '8' (anniversary edition iphone) this month....

Really?

"core value system is not in place".

Parents and leaders instil the values.

Well you're a parent and a leader....guess who failed at both jobs?

Ibori: Stole $3b and jailed in the UK.

Diezani: Stole unknown billions and will likely be jailed in the UK.

Odili: stole billions of dollars and obtained perpetual injunction from prosecution.

GEJ: Superintended the biggest looting spree where even his wife's hands are soiled.

Yet who does the Niger Deltan hate the most?

The lowly poor muslim northerner who has no idea what crude oil looks like.

Lies.

Here's the real list

1. Fangs
2. Ill-fitting sheep's skin
3. Bloody claws
4. Long snout
5. Drools whenever he stares at other sheep
6. Can't baaa
7. Howls at the moon.

bkool7:
If God can say , "be" and it came to being.

How long will it take for such a Supernatural being to create the


A day before God is millions of years before us . God is timeless. He doesnt use our measurement.

That is evidence in the speed of light.

All the knowlegde of tne age of the universe are merely assumptions. Though it can be reveal to the understanding of some

I dont think the Bible accually said the world is 6000 years old. People simple inferred it from the Bible. I stand to be corrected though

You do have some good points. I guess the 6k years is counting from Abraham, not Adam. Hence Abrahamic religion.

The cosmic timescale you ascribe to god is further proof of you bending things to suit your mythology. Nowhere is it also inferred that god's time is in millions.

I think the greatest argument, for me at least, for the reality of a god is on the biological level. The idea that life and its complexities and wonder is a chance event is insulting to my intelligence.

Look for god in the miracle of life, how WE began, in procreation....therein you shall find your god.

Look, you can believe without looking towards science to justify your god. The essence of faith is its enigma, its ambiguities. If you chose to believe with your conscience and not your logic...well...like i said so many things in physics defy logic. So even scientists ascribe some facts of the universe to the great unknown.

There's purity and serenity in not knowing the origin of your deity.

Your faith against logic and naysayers is what makes you pious.

You indeed diminish god when you attempt to prove his origin.

Sheun001:
heheheh pls oh
didn't ask u to tell me your dad's name

I'm not telling you my dad's name. I was describing your mother.

Teempakguy:
refiner, I am disappointed.

How could you possibly suggest that Christians and Muslims serve the same God? do you know that's a one way ticket to hellfire? there is only ONE way to christian heaven, Jesus Christ, suggesting otherwise is blasphemy and will lead you to hell.

If you're going to believe in fairy tales, at least get the details right.

Let's see how I'm going to choose my god.

Christian god:

1. For no reason he created a human pair in some fancy garden.

2. For some flimsy reason ge denied them a simple apple

3. He didn't want them to have knowledge.

4. He'd rather they remain dumb and massage his ego, rather than think for themselves.

5. They ate the apple anyway. And he kicked them out and curse them and their innocent spawn.

6. He built hell to toast anyone who dares think for themselves.

7. He was so mortal he needed a son.

8. He violated a virgin to get that son

9. He sent down his son to suffer and die needlessly.

10. His son turned water in wine, instead of the reverse, so revelers can get drunk and generally carry on.

11. Said son was racist and wanted to save only jews.

12. He died ingloriously on the cross next to thieves and criminals and his dad didn't lift a finger to save him

13. Now father and son sit on golden thrones watching pastors rape boys and steal from the poor. Father and son toast mimosa and laugh themselves to sleep.

Yeah right.

And they say satan is evil.....

I can swear to you people getting roasted don't calmly narrate life's lessons.

No.

They scream and yell.

Because fire.

winner01:
If something comes into being, it must have been prompted by something else. A book has an author. Music has a music artist. A party has a party-thrower! All things that begin, that have a start, have a cause to their beginning.


"If a creator God needs to have been made by a creator, that creator would also need a creator who needs a creator … like an infinite chain of toppling dominos, which is an impossibility." - Bertrand Russel (1872-1970)


Today’s atheists repeat the objection, including Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion) and Philip Adams, who said,

“The great argument for God was that there had to be a Creation, a beginning. … But my objection was simple. If God was the beginning who began God?”



So who created God? Many religious people, especially Christians including myself consider this question the ultimate blasphemy. In times of inquisition, 800 years ago in Europe, this question alone could easily have gotten one killed or at least sent to the torture chambers by the powers that be of the time – the Catholic Church.

Yet today, it seems to be a legitimate and a profound question. This question must be best answered to help grow the faith of genuine enquirers and tick the conscience of honest unbelievers.
Even if one doesn't believe in God or any kind of divine being, the question remains: Why does anything exist? Why not just nothingness?

These are the ultimate existential questions and it may concern every human on earth.



Everything we observe in nature has a beginning. Theists, more specifically Christians however often object by making the claim below:

"God is in a different category, God is different from all nature and humanity and everything that exists, in that he has always existed, independent from anything he created. God is not a dependent being, but self-sufficient, self-existent.
Psalms 90:2, 1 chronicles 29:11-12, John 4:24.

Christians admit that everything has a cause with just one exception, GOD. Christians submit this because this is exactly how the Bible describes God, and how God has revealed himself to be.


While I will not be using scriptures to make my point.
It is important to note that the Bible says, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here God created time itself. Only One who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.

Let's leave this for a while. Almost everyone agrees that the world has a beginning. Science seems to have proven that time and space had a beginning. This fact amongst others have made some change their opinion on reality.
https://www.nairaland.com/3314364/christian-family-atheism-jesus-christ

Three scientific evidences seems to prove that the universe has a beginning. They are briefly explained in the thread above.

1. The second law of thermodynamics
2. An expanding universe
3. The cosmic background radiation

So basically.
- The universe has not always existed (the universe has a beginning)
- Time and space began with the universe (Time and space began when the universe began)


Prior to the universe, there was nothing, NO TIME, no space, nothing at all.
This implication of this is that whatever brought the universe into existence is independent of the universe, independent of time (timeless or eternal) and independent of space.


This is a serious implication. It means that :
1. Either the universe came from nothing
2. or the universe came from something
3. or we don't know what brought forth the universe.


In reality. It is impossible for nothing to produce something. At least majority of people agree with this. And if it is impossible for nothing to give rise to something, then the existence of life should make no sense.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5909250_img8162_jpega449fdec5674e7900a8abc4d01b71616

To me, life is even less complex than the universe. This truth (that nothing cannot produce something) is uncomfortable for those who propose that there is no Creator (of the universe).

This has led major scientists like Stephen hawkings, Lawrence krauss and others to theorize that something can come from nothing.

1. The M-Theory (which requires nothing something called gravity)
2. The multiverse theory (to which there exists no observable evidence)
3. Quantum vacuums (which infact has the properties of nothing something as Dr. Alexander Vilenkin points out
in this video.)


And maybe any other theory I don't know of. One thing is sure however, to validate any of the above theories, one must modify the definition of nothing.

Let's see the real definition of nothing.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5909217_img8861_jpeg68ae4eccdc827e5cef36e4d5950fa853

Having said that. I'll go straight to my point.
Whatever was in existence prior to the universe, exists outside of time and space.

Whatever exists outside of time is timeless or eternal. The words "Timeless and eternal" seems to have a connection.

Lets see the definition of Timeless
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5909218_img8863_jpeg46c538e89180c8b5c8c7a3069cc08ddb


and eternal
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5909219_img8864_jpeg085949e1f8b8b358aefce3722518bc50

The major connection I see between these two words may be clear for everyone else to see.

"No beginning and no end".

This phenomenon is alien to humans. Majority of people can't seem to imagine an object with no beginning and no end (an object that was not created or an object that has been existing since forever).
It is natural though, afterall even our great planet will come to its end.
My point is, it is difficult for anyone to imagine something without a beginning or end.


The Bible describes God as:
1. ETERNAL in the following verses: Isaiah 40:28, Romans 16:26, 1 Timothy 1:17, Psalm 90:2
2. and SELF EXISTING: Exodus 3:14

The word YAHWEH itself is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.”



So I have been able to make 2 points so far.
1. Timeless or eternal means no beginning and no end (UNCREATED OR SELF EXISTING)
2. The Bible describes God as timeless and eternal.



When atheists ask the question, "Who created God?". This question can be analyzed critically.

If something was created, it simply means it has a beginning. This negates the proposition of Christians as regards YAHWEH. Therefore such a question might either be born out of ignorance or dishonesty.
One can't ask who created something has no beginning and no end. Since the question itself proposes that this something has a beginning, It is an invalid question.


An eternal being or object has no beginning, no end. It is uncreated and timeless. It is self existent.
This is the what we mean when we say God is eternal.

I do not write to offend anyone's beliefs, but you can read this with an unbiased mind, I'm positive that you will come to an honest conclusion and admit that the question "Who created God" is an invalid question.


God bless you.

Scientists have no idea waht existed before the big bang. To assume there was nothing is a fallacy.

Also, our entire known universe is perceived by us as a 4-dimensional construct. It means our reality is limited to our sensory perceptions. But the concept of "the bulk" implies dimensions above the 4 we know (3 dimensions of space, 1 dimension of time) and means we're probably living on a tiny slice, or "brane" of what could be an infinite-dimension reality.

This is given strong basis by the enigma of the electromagnetic field, black holes, and dark energy and dark matter.

So don't assume that the 4D reality we perceive is the entirety of the universe, just as we cannot comprehend the reality before cosmic inflation.

Even in our 4D universe some things just don't make any sense, such as fundamental particles and quantum mechanics. Something as simple as a photon has us in circles. Is it a wave or is it a particle? Why does it travel at a constant speed? What aspect of the universe created that speed limitation? Is EMF an oscillation in the fabric of the universe or is it a high speed particle? Too many paradoxes. Then we've particles with no mass, and then particles popping in and out of existence. Even at the macro level, the universe doesn't make much sense. What the hell is a black hole? What's at the singularity?

Also, there are so many false equivalencies in this topic that one gets the impression the author is trying too hard to bend science to confirm, or conform to, his biblical beliefs.

Meanwhile the Quranic point of view of the universe is closer to the theory of cosmic inflation: God said "be", and the universe came into being. We do know the big bang happened near instantly.

The fact that the bible suggests the earth is 6,000 years old and the universe was created in 6 days makes any scientific postulations from the bible as void as space.

amazinghope:
I don't understand... Tboss and her nose ring stun in beautiful photo
So her nose ring is now her boyfriend?

Guess you didn't notice her tooth ring. Zoom in the first pic.

Wonder what Davido saw in her.

Meanwhile she's still milking that cash cow.

Sheun001:
and do you??
ratbag

Cuntfaced sack of pig's shit

Sheun001:
I hate buhari
I hate APC

Ok.

But you don't matter.

Lawless south

Ah. Jews. Eternally conspiratorial.

What's with yoruba and rape?

Or are they related to indians?

He was only consulting his "small doctor".