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kandiikane:
But yo said he looks hausa. .So what is your problem. .You just classed him by his looks. .

yeah because he can pass off as hausa/nigerian coz there is nothing like a "nigerian look"

tpia@:
he wouldnt be spotted by you and 9jaganja that's for sure.

and for sure, u will spot him no doubt.

kandiikane:
So now you are saying you can class someone from where they are from by looks. . .

Well done. .

lol, dat was not wot i said.

i said akon amongst nigerians would not be spotted as a senegalese by nigerians.

@ kandi, and if akon wore a babanriga and went down to eire street where hausas change dollar in my city in nigeria. i dont think he would be spotted as a senegalese by anybody even by the hausas.

afro arabs

lol @ afro-arabs.

so what's so hard to believe about people migrating from and to various places across the planet?

there are african-americans who think they were not slave taken from africa but migrated from africa to china before finally migrating to the us. and i guess u believe dat.

Gambia and senegal use to be one but you can tell who is from Gambia or Senegal. .

akon and lots of senegalese can pass off as hausas any given day.

we are talking about looks and it fits the topic.

tpia

blame oyibo.

so who do u blame for nigerians who say they are from israel and saudi arabia?

and even though nigerians like u claim a peculiar look for nigerians, u still have nigerians who think they are from israel, saudia arabia etc.

and oh, not forgeting those who say that ghanaians originally migrated from their towns and that ghanaian and nigerians are actually the same people. the same ghanaians they claim look differently from them.

yeah u are right i dont know what a "ghanaian" look like coz it doesnt exist

ok. then like i said, kwale is still not igbo in delta since they are yet to take a stand on where they belong.

ok cool. so kwales are not igbos in delta state since they made the list.

ezeagu:
Are you still here? You don't get tired oh!

aha, but the thread was started: June 07, 2010, 08:48 PM

and over a year later u have not left it, yet u made such a comment.

dat was funny!

lol, i have re-read and i dont get a clear answer and this was wot u said

"For you three questions. . . for a and b the answer is, yes. For your other question it is, no.(of course we are talking about the ones who deny being Igbo)"

i dunno that is a bit too vague for me to understand coz i cant remember asking three questions in the first place. so help me out, make it clearer.

im not saying it is a bad thing, but the average person who is an outsider cannot really tell who is who.

and if there is indeed a “ghanian look”, nigerians would easily get caught when they use ghanaians passports with dubious ghanaian names to travel or vice versa

and i feel our ancestors identified and differentiated themselves based on cultural practices – language, religion, tribal marks etc, and not based on looks and phenotype.

yeah wotever. but my main question that i am still not getting a clear answer to was why kwale is still listed as a seperate group from igbo in delta state.

and the (a) (b) (c) were options u could choose your answer from kinda like objs. but i guess cos i added a question mark to the options, it now seemed like questions.

so lets try it again:

why is kwale still listed as a different ethnic group from igbo in delta state?

a) are they still foolishly holding on to the identity to avoid discrimination even though the igbos claim they are booming and doing well

b) they are keeping it coz they know they are actually not igbos and a different group

c)  they just want to keep it so dat they can continue to play both sides of the fence like cowards

those who have taken time to study the people or live with them are those who claim they see the differences but how many oyinbo people take time to study africans? the average oyibo does not know and cant tell shyte.

and why do you assume all whites dont know the different looks in africa?

if they could tell,  den nigerians wont be using fake kpali of other countries to easily enter their countries.

wot im saying is clear there is nothing like a "nigerian look" but when groups spend so much time with each other they begin to think they look different but to the outsider they all look the same.

if there is a "nigerian look" then there must be a "ghanaian look", "togolese look" etc but an oyinbo cannot tell a nigerian from a ghanaian and even south africans for africa here cannot tell a nigerian from a ghanaian. 

in fact to make matters worse oyinbo people think all black people look alike and dats how they see us. and me personally i dont see the difference between a german and an english person based on their looks

i always wondered how the nazi germans were easily able to identify 3million(?) jews and wiped them from the surface of the earth even though both groups look the same to me as an outsider.

and i always wondered how the hutus were easily able to identify and massacred the tutsi in the rwanda genocide even though both groups look the same to me as an outsider.

oh, and i always wondered how nigerians were easily able to identify ghanaians and sent them packing during the ghana must go era even though ive seen a lot of people who had the "nigerian look" in ghana, togo and benin republic and they were NOT nigerians

"The identities were used as a divide and conquer technique."

to divide and conquer wot? the biafran cause or the igbo ethnic group?

"If you witnessed and suffered what they went through during the war and even the time leading up to the war then you wouldnt see it as being too foolish. It is called desperation."

witnessed wot exactly? u claim u were igbo before and during the war, so i guess u fought for the biafran cause but after losing the war, u could no longer persevere with wotever fate was facing you and your igbo brothers dat u now had to take on an identity just to escape it and betrayed the igbo unity. i don't see how dat is desperation, dat is foolishness and cowardice.

"i was referring to Ukwani and other Igbo groups thinking that denying Igbo and taking up a a new "ethnic" identity was going to stop them from being discriminated against verses the Igbos who still kept to the name "Igbo". "

so after u have cowardly taken up a new ethnic identity foolishly thinking it will stop u from being discriminated against but "obviously it aint work", u now want to return to the ethnic identity u previously disowned.

sorry but the whole thing looks like the life of a loser to me and i don't even know why your other igbo brothers want to take u cowards back after helping to weaken the igbo "ethnic" identity coz tomorrow now if there is another biafran war, after losing, u guys will also be the first igbos to take on a new identity and disown igbo just to avoid discrimination.

but this has still not answered the question:

why is kwale still listed as a different ethnic group from igbo in delta state?

a) are they still foolishly holding on to the identity to avoid discrimination even though the igbos claim they are booming and doing well?

b) they are keeping it coz they know they are actually not igbos and a different group?

c)  they just want to keep it so dat they can continue to play both sides of the fence like cowards?

chyz, don't bold my comments coz i can't see it, but the only thing i guess was wrong with my comment is i said after biafra war is long over which u have already stated. fine.

but this was wot u said:

"In the '70s, various Igbo groups/clans were given separate identities to divide and weaken us after the Biafra war."

so let me get dis straight, u were in ur words "given separate identities" to weaken biafra after the war even though u are igbo. so i guess it was imposed and u said some of u accepted it.

den u went ahead to say dis

"A lot of us went with it and denied being Igbo twort discrimination by the FG,etc."

apart from u foolishly accepting an identity dat was imposed on u the complete sentence does not make sense cos i don't know wot "twort" means and dat was the reason u foolishly accepted. forgive me i never hear oyibo reach there.

den u now said this:

"Obviously it aint work. "

obviously it worked cos fast forward years later, kwale is listed as a seperate group from igbo in delta state.

btw, dat list was not compiled in the 70s it was compiled recently after delta has been created so i see no reason why the identify u claimed was "imposed" on u in the 70s will still be on the list. if the identify still appears on a recent list even after biafra is long over, it means kwale is not igbo which is why they were not grouped as igbo.

how can it be extinct when they are still speaking the distinct language? and i don't have time to be searching for links for clowns on the net. like i do in real-life i go by wot the people say, and from all the posts so far on this thread, it is clear anioma is not strictly an igboland. and ur posts are pretty boring unlike dat of iguefi who is good at making wild claims so i guess i will have to wait for iguefi cos im sure he is busy googling and cooking something interesting as we speak.

Do you know exactly what he meant by "primarily"?

i just ran primarily thru the dictionary and look at the result:

pri·ma·ri·ly
[-mair-uh-lee, -mer-]

- adverb
chiefly  
originally

^^

so according to iguefi they speak a language till this day that is originally and chiefly yoruba. so how is that "igbo" in any sense of the word?

I have nothing to do with the ikhime story.

ok. but who is eze chime? was he not the same bini man ikhime as iguefi has claimed? or u want to pretend eze chime never existed in anioma?

This is because you have already been in Edo state. If you had been in Ondo or Ekiti from the beginning, you'd have a different take on the issue. You'd be scream 'Omo Yoruba sileeeee!"

personal opinions don't matter to me and u are entitled to urs while i have already told u mine.

The Ijaw are the Izon people. The names are well known and used interchangibly.

ok cool. im yet to go thru the list thoroughly since i am posting with my fone. but i noticed kwale was not grouped as igbo. why so? i thought u claimed they were igbo?

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and why was ijaw not included in the list? their identity was not "strong" enough to included? and who were they grouped as in dat list? igbo?

As for the usen identitity strength, obviously it was not strong enough to get you all a separate identity from the "Yoruba" label

really? i don't even have time to argue dat point with u.

Out of the 372 groups listed, Usen was not found. This is because Usen is under a group on that list and group is "Yoruba".

u know wot u shuld do? wen u see honourable west idahosa an usen man who represented his constituency in edo state at the house of representative, u should tell him is confused about his identity, then tell him he is no longer an edo man dat his group is now part of yoruba becos they were not included in a list of 372 tribes across nigeria and see if u will not get a dirty slap to your face.

but u have also failed to provide "rebuttals with direct evidence" to all iguefi has written extensively about. he said there are yoruba groups in anioma who speak a language that is primarily yoruba yet u claimed it was igbo. oh i get it, u are not for diversity

he also wrote of how igbos corrupted ikhime to chime and i guess since u are against diversity u also don't believe dat but have failed to provide evidence to support your claim.

Let think of it like this, if your group were carved into a "yoruba" state your whole swag would be different.

and if my group is carved into a "yoruba" state, my swag will remain dat of an ovbiedo kpataki.

well, mr or mrs chyz, i just checked the pic u posted, and it doesn't seem usen is not categorised as edo. and again, even if your map say otherwise, i never take such shyte as conclusive cos like i said someone just posted the tribes of nigeria and their states and outta 372 tribes posted, usen is missing from the list. so unless u want to tell me we do not exist in nigeria or dat we exist in a vacuum outside wot is regarded as "nigeria", i never take such maps and lists as conclusive. i take wot the people say they are as conclusive, and to my knowledge, i am yet to meet an usen person who identify as anything other than usen and edo.

and iguefi, keep doing your so-called research thru google and wikipedia and your phd will be awarded to u by users who upload shyte on wiki. and im sure u will also be quick to flaunt dat around as the first african/nigerian wiki phd holder as some kind of achievement.

I can infer that I have never seen in any town in Nigeria where there are large concentration of bats like Benin City.

iguefi, so are u trying to tell me u didn't see a large concentration of bats in ogwashi uku? a pot cannot call kettle black and a kettle cannot call pot black so shut up!

I think you are not a bonafide citizen of that community because all Usen

so dat is all u can say? u think? and who the fvck cares wot an old dummy like u think especially wen u are posting the retarrded thoughts on the internet? and well i have also said long ago that i think u are actually from owerri or somewhere else in the east and not anioma.

all Usen people know that they are of Yoruba stock

hahahaha so dat would mean u know all usen people to make dat statement. even me dat is usen do not even know all usen people not to talk of u who is from the far east and the first time u heard of usen was on the internet and through google. can't u see why u are the biggest idiiot and oldest dummy on this thread? and all your dumb comments i always find amusing so keep em coming.