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@ezeagu,
dat is what im telling u dat they are not binis. the edo people wit names that are "yorubic" are not binis. they have their distinct dialect, eg usen.
binis that may have yoruba names are those who are married to yoruba people. maybe their mum or someone in their family is from one of the yoruba states. but no proper bini family have a "yorubic" name in their family, they all have bini names.

@vincenzo, u should know since u are the one claiming they are igbos

and the yoruba and igbo identity are bogus ones as far as im concerned.

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i am usen, and we don't have yoruba names, we have usen names and we are edo people. if yoruba people happen to share same name with usen people, it does not mean we are yorubas coz our usen identity is way older than the contemporary european created yoruba identity. so if anything, it is yorubas that should be claiming to identify as usen not the other way round. same way the ika identity is way older than the contemporary european igbo identity, so it should be igbos who be claiming to identify as ika not the other way round. usen people are not yorubas same way as ika people are not igbos.

And what does nduka mean?

u tell me.

You are a no brainer at all. An Igboman in this forum is known as Gen-Buhari. Yet he is not Hausa/fulani nor a military man. Your argument is baseless.

lol, so are u trying to tell me agbontaen is not a name answered by ikas, and omonuan/iguefi is actually from owerri?

btw, obaigbena means - oba does not beat these.

omonuan:
Agbontaen does not speak for either Owa or Ika people. The Obi of of Owa has much better locus standi on this issue and he has clearly stated what Owa people are. You guess it! They are Igbo according to him. Ifeanyi Okowa, Nduka Obaigbena do not hold Agbontaen's view. Agbo[b]nta[/b]en has "nta" in his name.  Nta means the same thing in all Igbo dialects including Owa. It means small and Agbontaen has "Uche Nta."  I leave the meaning of "Uche Nta" to those who speak Igbo.

I have always said that no one should give him the attention he craves.

lol, so it is only the nta aka nigerian television authority section of his name you could translate in igbo? when the whole name agbontaen is an edo name meaning the world is long.

agbon-world
taen-long

now i can understand why they dont want to be called igbos coz clearly most of their names have nothing to do with igbo

iguefi, another speculation is running through my head that i will like to share with u.

benin did not begin to enjoy empire status until the reign of ewuare the great. and ikhime made contact with anioma during the reign of esigie who was another warrior king with his mother idia who was a warrior queen.

now, ikhime as u have stated was an edo soldier of bini-origin. so isn't possible that esigie, idia and ikhime conquered those territories and ikhime was place there as an administrator? and when they finally got their independence from edo years long after ikhime and esigie are dead, they made up stories of how ikhime was a rebel soldier that fought with esigie, and when esigie's mother tried to harvest crops in anioma ikhime assaulted her too just to establish and strenghten their independence? how are u even bold enough to harvest crops that are not in your territory in the first place? that is like havesting crops in another man's farm. anyway, ikhime assaulted her when she dared it because by this time ikhime has already assimilated into the nri culture even though the nri culture still have traces of the bini culture they didn't like and wanted to get rid off till date? so how did the bini culture manage to survive half a millennia later?

so i speculate that ikhime never fought with esigie, he was an administrator who administered over the land he, esigie and idia the warrior queen conquered. and that was how the omu title came to anioma and why it is distinct to them. and that was how all those other titles of edo-origin that you have listed in your old posts also came to anioma and survived till this day. and that was how osu was also wiped out of anioma because the edo people don't have and never had an osu system. now say thanks to edo for helping u get rid of osu, something your "sophisticated" kin and kith in the east still have not been able to do till date.

anyways . . . . . iguefi, it seems u are over emphasising dat my "speculate" line. i speculate just like every other historian or so-called experts because none of us was there when all these things happened. but unlike u, i will not read and swallow every junk written by historians or so-called experts coz they have been well known to misrepresent the culture of the people they wrote about. so i have the ability to think for myself and figure out what might have happened. so let's "speculate".

1) like u have stated, anioma-igbos just like their eastern kin and kith, did have an osu system. but after ikhime made contact with them, he was able to rid them of the system that's why it no longer appears in anioma.

2) if i am correct, ikhime influence on igboland does not pass anambra, hence the reason why osu is also not prevalent in anambra. in fact i have read comments from some anambra-igbos who say dat osu does not even exist in anambra just like anioma, although some anambra-igbos say it does. so it is probable dat nri could not assimilate the eastern igbos cos nri was the same ikhime.

3) u are the one who is egocentric and too proud to admit your mistake coz u have paraded urself as an expert. there is and has been only one eleko of eko, it has never been more than one. and it was dat one and only eleko of eko dat  became oba of lagos, and just like the oba of benin who is the head of all the kings in edo, the oba of lagos is the head of all the other kings in lagos.

4) the root-meaning of the word ogie is honour. but as we know, words do lose their root-meaning over time and take on a new meaning, so that was how so-called experts ascribed a new meaning to ogie and "neophytes" like u perpetuated it. but if u have a basic understanding of the edo language, u will know dat the usage of the word "ogie" mean honour/praise cos there are so many edo names that either starts or ends with "ogie" and when translated, non literally means the king.

5) there are more witches and wizards in igboland than anywhere else in nigeria, so spare me the bullshyte. and yeah, avoid talking about the ibuzor boys coz im not saying anymore personal shyte about peoples lives coz u will never know who is reading. and personally, i don't care about your personal life so tell omonuan to spare me the bullshyte.

Mbana mentality that never allowed Igbos to expand in a wider geographical area that will match their large population

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dat must be a joke especially after saying igbos both eastern and anioma stock are littered even in sao tome. hahahaha, mbana mentality na nor allow igboman spread, yet they are everywhere and don even spread pass the fulanis who "spreading" is part of their culture. hahaha mbana mentality indeed.

btw, iguefi/omonuan u need to be checked into a psychiatric home asap coz na small small craze take dey start oooo and if care is not taken ryt away, before u know it, u don dey chop dirty for streets and that would be a point of no return.

lol

btw, omomuan tell iguefi not to miss his early morning essays tonight coz i enjoy reading his retarded arse first thing in the morning when i wake.

Physics appears to be more intelligent and writes better than exothief

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i can't argue with dat, and i wholeheartedly agree. dude is a genius and ive learnt a lot about bini/edo culture from his posts. ovbioba domor o!

^ yeah ryt.

Abagworo:
Ikhime seems more or less a word invented to match Chima but of Bini language.Lol @ that.We can as well say that Oba Eweka is a corruption of Obi Emeka.

well, u will have iguefi the proud igboman and an expert on anioma history to thank for that. he is good at making up stories.

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iguefi, u are the one getting frustrated my dear foolish old fwend. and i wasn't expecting u to say my post isn't dry. and i do admit it is dry cos it is not absorbed with a lot of lies and fabrication. but i'd admit that i speculate, but the more u tell me it is dry, the more i know im hitting the nail on the head and saying something right. and comparing your essays to agbontaen essays, urs is rubbish cos it is full of self-praise and his own is way better. he makes his point without boosting his ego and renders no apology to anybody. and he has clearly stated why u hate binis with a passion and it makes sense. 

now let me tell u the errors u made in the oba of lagos issue since your dull brain cant seem to figure it out.

u said in yorubaland, u will not find a place where the obas answer just "oba", they always have a unique title in form of praise and i showed u the oba of lagos. so unless u are saying lagos is edoland, then u erred on dat assumption.

u also said there are several elekos of eko who bear obas of lagos and i corrected u dat it was just one. those were your errors.

The reason why it became convenient to have the title of "Oba"  of Lagos is that Lagos itself is not the actual name of the town. It would sound better to have an Oba of Lagos than an Eleko of Lagos.

so becos the name changed to lagos, then the oba would change what you called, his "traditional" title? something you said does not happen in yorubaland? benin changed to edo but the oba of benin did not change his title to oba of edo.

and contrary to what u have said, eleko of lagos would have sounded better. oba rilwan akiolu - the eleko of lagos. "eleko" would have been the unique title as is what is common in yorubaland and "lagos" the land he rules over. but since "lagos" is also "eko" it wouldnt have made much sense anyways.

but i don't see anytin unique/special that is in form of praise in "olueko" of eko or "eleko" of eko cos from the translations gotten from the yorubas on this thread, "olueko" already translates to "lord of eko", and "eleko" already translates to possessor of eko. so olueko of eko would now mean lord-of-eko of eko? and eleko of eko would mean possessor-of-eko of eko? thats rather confusing cos how are u the lord of eko and then have to relord it? if dats even a word. or how do u possess eko and then have to repossess it? it sounds WEAK! or was there another eko within eko? eko was just one place just as lagos is just one place, which is why it was just better to go by the title oba of lagos - meaning king of lagos. simple and clear with no confusion.

Just face reality rather than just beating around the bush.

and what reality would dat be? it seems u don run out of "truths" u know about my family, now u are asking more silly questions dat u will find the answers to in my old post. and i do have an igiogbe in usen. i can locate the house of our family's patriarch in usen. my grand father also had a house in usen so i have two igiogbes in usen.

now, u answer my questions:

1) do the eastern igbos also have their own version of igiogbe dat u call okpunor? and if they do wot is it called?

2) why does osu not appear in anioma the edo dominated part of igboland?

3) why did the nri not assimilate in the igbos in the east who still practice shyte like osu and cannibalism?

and the reason the ibuzor guys left ibuzor is because there was nothing happening there. they spent a good portion of their life in benin and when they finally relocated out of benin, they ended up in warri and not anioma or any place in ndigbo.

^ yeah ryt.

agbontaen is a bini man just like ikhime,
iguefi is an igbo-cannibal from the east,
and they met in anioma. it makes sense.
hahaha

WhyAWhy:
someone please help me, what part of Nigeria is this name and what does it mean: Esinkumo

i dunno about the esin part of it but i know kumo is an ijaw name.

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although it also seems like braids when looking at the two long flowing strands that dropped on his shoulders.
but whoever wear braids ryt now in 9ja wey be man would seem like it was an american influence. not knowing that we don dey do dis things from the time of moses.

the edo people call dreads agbiyagha and not that im an expert on benin art but i think the edo man on the left is wearing short dreads, and dreads were not worn for fashion statements but for spiritual and religious purposes.

evrybody claims to be an expert when they actually don't know shyte. and i read dis long arse comment dat was just posted from a dude called agbontaen and it better makes sense than the posts of iguefi. and they both claim to be aniomas. so who is now the expert?

lol, @vicenzo, omonuan and iguefi is the same person. and i didn't say u shouldn't comment, i just said i realized people commenting on the issue are not aniomas. dats all.

i just realized dat apart from iguefi, every other person arguing on behave on anioma igbos are not from anioma. dis vicenzo dude i was thinking is anioma is not even from there, and who knows maybe the old fool iguefi is not even from anioma but a far eastern igbo who lived with anioma igbos and just claiming anioma. igboman would claim anything, cos if they can claim jewish, wetin be anioma wey dem nor fit claim.

if nri-culture grew and flowed from anioma across the niger, or started in that onitsha/or anambra area, it is clear nri was ikhime and dat why osu and cannibalism does not appear in anioma and not prevalent in anambra

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lol, it sounds like a home video. and let me tell part two of the home video.

after much research, the igbos now found out nri was not a jew and he was actually ikhime the bini man, cos ikhime did cross the niger aka great river and founded onitsha. but becos he was already too old to impact his knowledge on the igbo cannibals he met there, that's why some parts of anambra still have the osu system. and becos he was too old, the far east was just too bushy for him to get into till he died. and guess what? those are the igbo areas where osu is still prevalent and areas where igbo-cannibals still dominate.

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and btw, is it not dat same nri dat is the so-called igbo-jewish link? and if i am correct, nri they said was one of the sons jacob, or descendants of jacob called eri? so why didn't the same greater nri culture reflect in the eastern igbo culture who are cannibals and practicing shyte like osu? were the jews cannibals?

the edo people don't have an osu system and it was that practice dat rubbed off on their close igbo neighbours and dats why osu does not appear in anioma. the edo people don't sell their daughters for material goods during marriage and guess what? it also does not appear in the culture of the so-called nri-igbos who were their close neighbours. but eastern igbos are well known for selling daughters for material shytes during marriage. in fact they consider their daughters as investments that would make them rich, and they are going to milk her till she dies. ikhime brought those bini traditions to anioma and that is why the so-called nri culture does not reflect in the east where unfortunately was too bushy for ikhime to get to.

so all the great things that make anioma distinct and which is actually only the shyte they are proud of today was brought by an edo man of bini-origin. without ikhime u guys would have been nothing. so show respect punks.

^ yeah ryt.

lol, so na now eze chima nor be bini. haven't u been reading the detailed explanation of iguefi of how he is of bini and edo-origin? he is a bini man who civilized u so-called midwest igbos cos prior to then, u were just like ur other igbo cannibals in east, and the bini man ikhime left an impact and gave u the identity u have today and dats something the british could not do in the far east coz they still eat people and pratice all sorts of outdated custom like osu. infact all dis anioma-igbo should be happy they were at close proximity with the edo people whose way of life rubbed of on them. if not, na all una brothers for east for don chop una finish. punks.

"On Anioma towns being empty, lol.What do you expect for Anioma people a section of the Igbo people to remain in their villages considering their adventurous and enterprising nature ?"

lol, so dat is your excuse and not the same reason why usen a "village" as u have qualified it would be empty? hahahahaha, u are an idiiot. usen is not empty and more populated than anioma towns, at least it has an institution of higher learning with students roaming around usen, students who are young adults that anioma towns cannot boast of, and it is a place that igbos left their bushes for. igbos are adventurous no doubt, they left their bushes and went to usen. so say thanks to usen in your next post. don't be an ingrate.

ehen, iguefi, 
i was expecting u will tell me some "truths" about my grand-mother, like the one u told me about my mother, but is seems u have run out truths that u know in my family.

and i guess from this your recent post, u are now saying  eze chime is no longer esan and actually bini/benin? and as the bini man tried to civilize una reach since like 500 years ago, una nor still nor wan leave una dirty ways of cannibalism and bush dwelling alone, even in the 21st century.

"will tell you they "earn dollars" in the Euro Zone"

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iguefi, i can see u still can't read and understand properly coz i never said that, i said "selling your pvssy abroad for dollars is better than selling it for some loose change in nigeria." and abroad is not only the euro-zone, dummy. even ghana and zimbabwe na abroad. but now, it is no longer europe dat edo girls are in, na bonny island. old jobless fool.

and don't even fool urself further, igbo women are the cheapest, so cheap dat even husbands use their wives to entertain visitors. igbo women nor dey forbid anything, they can fvck anybody and anything they come across. and the stereotype that igbo women are easy is not a fallacy at all. the stereotype that they are materialistic is the fallacy. if anything the igbo man is the one who is materilistic not the woman, dat is why the igbo man would p.imp his own wife just to get some material stuff. and let's not forget how igbo men sell their daughters for material goods during marriage. but igbo women on their own are not materialistic, they are easy and cheap, and the cheapest u will come across in nigeria. 

and if usen is "diabolic", what is igboland known for? cannibalism? cannibalism is still going on in igboland. bloody sub-humans and bush dwellers. usen is better than asaba the capital of an oil rich state. even with all the money in delta, asaba both metro and evirons remained a bushland after twenty long years. and according to your argument, all the failures of asaba is a "nigerian" thing, but what happens in other parts of the country is unique to them and not a "nigerian" thing as if they are NOT part of the same nigeria. u nor see how igboman wan use corny boost his ego? u guys are failures and will forever remain failures. and like i said, igbo-pvssy that made asaba capital and undp report won't get u far. and u haven't said anything that i haven't already said about maryam, but true to your nature, u just had to do it with a paragraph of recycled words.

anioma-igbo guys don't look east, an ibuzor boy who is a friend of mine, just moved with his older brother to warri and not even asaba cos  one of their long distance itsekiri cousin say make dem come run block industry. why didn't an opportunity open for dem in ndigbo? abi u wan tell me now say warri is also part of igboland?

and which papa name igbanke people wan answer? the edo names that have nothing to do with igbo? vincenzo didn't educate shyte. if igbanke people decide to join anioma, they will be edo people in an igbo state. ozuo

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