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btw, is edoland not part of big the fish u are your cohorts are trying to fry? if edoland wasn't part of it, your master iguefi would not have been ranting ceaselessly. igbanke is not igboland.

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same way ivbiedo don't care about wot u think. lol, and i guess once again we are even.

and which one be 'kitty' again? lol, it is pvssy!
abeg learn to use the appropriate word especially when talking about ashys.

and stop lying edo girls don't do that shyte in the us. edo girls in the us are mostly students or those who were born there. and their earning power in europe is still better than dat of igbo girls who earn kobo kobo in nigeria

lol, vicenzo, u funny o,
u didn't call maryam ashy but u brought girls selling pvssies into the argument about her to make her seem special before comparing her to stella? u were indirectly calling her one and dats a convo about ashys dat u were starting and i just had to remind u that igbos top in dat area locally while edo girls go international matches.

and btwn warri and asaba, i choose warri. there is nothing in asaba, it is dull and dry. at least warri is a vibrant city and waffi boys will use konk pidgin to scatter your head, and if dat is the only experience u can take home it is good and better than asaba that u would go home with nothing. anyway, i won't lie, the experience i took home from asaba was power failure and lots of mosquito bites.

btw, i must add dat i love igbo-pvssy. and becos igbos are known entrepreneurs? their pvssy also come cheap in naira and not hard for nigerian men to get. u can buy two and get one free. unlike edo pvssy dat sells for dollars way out of the reach of nigerians. see? dat was a compliment. hahahaha

vicenzo, selling your pvssy abroad for dollars is better than selling it for some loose change in nigeria. go to lagos and see dat most of the ashys there are igbos, even most of the ashys in benin are of igbo-origin. and from your argument about ashys, it seems u are trying to qualify maryam as an ashy even though she was the legitimate wife of the president who married him long before delta was created. dats a foolish line of thought for igbos who proud demselves as the most enlightened and "soundly" educated.

but typical of what the igboman  known for, they influenced the woman to use her pvssy to bring the capital to asaba knowing fully well they didn't deserve it and have done nothing on ground that should make asaba the capital. but why would the igboman bother to put anything on ground in his homeland, when he has the land of another man to feast and live on? and to crown it oyiboman don give am undp report to boost his ego? pvssy and undp report won't get u far, dat all im saying and never said maryam was ashy. mtcheeew.

and one more thing, iguefi, how come with all ur rants, u have not said anything about how asaba was made capital of delta state? did asaba deserve to be the capital of the state? was it not bottom pvssy-power of maryam dat made asaba the capital. the igboman has not really worked hard or even fought hard for his achievements, he has always been known to cheat his way to get it. and true to his nature, that was how asaba was made capital, cheating with igbo-pvssy. but see now, since asaba has been made capital, 20 odd years, abi? so how far has igbo-pvssy taken asaba? not so far and the pvssy is dead from exhaustion, hahahaha
so next time dont be straining igbo-pvssy too much, abeg.

"Best private university in Nigeria and what was the yard stick used ? It is a matter which is highly debatable."

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when did i say it was the best? i said "one of the best". and u say u are "soundly" educated? i guess reading and comprehension was not part of that education. you are a dullard. and i guess ur rants and whines is now to insult my family, boost ur ego, and dodge all the questions ive asked u. u are suffering from delusions of grandeur while u forget the reality on ground, and that is what ruins people like u coz u are so far from reality, dummy.

iguefi, u think u are soundly educated? lol, education has lost its meaning. u are a fool and u are the biggest idiiiot ive ever met on the internet. u went from insulting dad to now insulting mum by asking how many men she has been with? and ive told u where im from, now u want me to tell u my family background. when i tell u that one, u will ask me my surname. when i tell u that one, then u will ask me my name as if dat will change anything and as if your so-called background that u have been purporting is even verifiable and u are not  just lying in the first place like all the lies u have told in this thread especially the killing of your pregnant aunt by nigerian troops. and why won't u call usen bush and glorify anioma communities but when i was in usen i enjoyed electricity that i didn't enjoy in asaba. all the time i have been to asaba, i slept without light. and why won't u say usen poly is a glorified secondary school, idiiots like u were also the ones who tagged edo state uni ekpoma as a glorified secondary sch in those days just to ruin evrything edo and boost your silly deflated ego. go to usen poly and see igbos receiving education in the same so-called glorified secondary sch.

and like i said before, all your so-called development in anioma only looks on paper while nothing is happening on ground. the place is dead, dry and very backward. anioma na bush, and i was surprised when i was in ogwashi not too long, those areas are till the same just like how it has been when my dad was posted there, dead and dry. and i was thinking "wow this place never still change at all" my only consolation was that "well na so nigeria dey be, nothing grows"  and umunede, ubulu-uku, obior are all still dead, nothing dey happen for those areas. in fact u won't even see young adults because all of them don go litter other nigerian cities/towns outside ndigbo coz most of the people don't even look toward east for anything. as wot is the big deal about anioma? or is there another anioma in this country dat is not the one i know? even asaba is still full of bushes and not expanding rapidly, asaba is just like a tiny community that u can drive round within thirty or so minutes and inside the mainland of tiny asaba, na still bush full am. and if benin relies solely on "civil service", why is it expanding? is civil service the reason for expansion? your jealousy nor dey make u see road. and i won't list anything for u, go drive round benin and see for urself since e don tay wey u enter benin reach.

and if edo state is dry, why are there more deltans in edo state than edos in delta? why are deltans not in their state enjoying the "wetness" of the state? the foreman at my site is an agbor man, even the vulcanizer in my neighbourhood that i always thought was an edo person, when he was pumping my tire yesterday, and i asked him what part of edo he is from, to my surprise he said he is from delta and na the anioma part of delta e even from come. why didn't he set shop in asaba or one of the fast growing community in anioma? u are a deluded fool. keep wearing your undp report as a badge of honour and inflating your ego and see if it will change anything.

and iguefi, one more thing, since eze chime was an edo man of esan origin, and if im correct, he is the one who igbos regard as the founder of those communities in anioma plus onitsha, abi? then it would mean it was an edo man that brought civilisation he took from benin of how to build a community to all them bush igbos, and he civilized their bush arses. haha
so show respect dummy.

"Like I said earlier your words are are harmless to me."

so it is your words that are not harmless to me? you were even silly enough to insult my dad and think it will change anything, but it is all blah blah blah.

Yes there are  red sand almost everywhere in Nigeria but I dont think a person of Benin descent should mock an Igbo over red sand and bushes because Benin leads this country in both.

pure undiluted lie because benin is expanding every minute. go down sapele road where austin lazarus has his house, it is developing rapidly further than the road to areas like ekai. go down oko to areas like iriri and see how fast it is growing. infact people down sapele road and oko are forming that it is G.R.A and trying to merge it to G.R.A by tagging it G.R.A. and since you are anioma-igbo, go uphill further up ikpoba hill area as if you are going to the east and see how fast it is growing with enclaves of igbos who could stay in their so-called developed land.
benin is expanding so rapidly that even areas like iheya community down ugbowo-lagos road, way after uniben as if u are travelling to lagos is now becoming part of benin city. infact uniben itself is actually in ovia and not benin that's to show benin has been growing rapidly over the decades and will continue to grow. so there are no more bushes in the mainland of benin. infact there is no more space in benin mainland and if you are looking for a land to buy now, you have to go the outskirts of benin city to acquire one which would be another local govt entirely that has merged into the city.

. try and trace your lineage to who evr was the founder ,

u are a dullard becos if u weren't, u would have read and understood where i said my great-great-grand fathers house is still in benin. unlike igbos who don't know their history and have to wait for oyiboman to come do it for dem, every edo man knows his history. we are taught from birth within the family.  so it is clear that i know my lineage. im an usen man. and it is a place like usen that u should be comparing to asaba not benin. usen has constant/stable electricity and even has a state owned polytechnic. okada which is not too far away from usen and in the same local govt, has one of the best private university in the country which was the first private uni in nigeria if im not mistaking. delta state as a whole even with all the resources still has nothing on edo, not to talk of the dry fraction of delta state called anioma, and that is why till date their are still more deltans in edo than edos in delta. so my advice to u iguefi is to shut up and say thank u to edo people for training u to become who u are. ungrateful idiiiot.

exotik: "it is all history and we all know how people manipulate history to suit their agenda, whether it happened a thousand years ago or happened a century ago, it is all history."

iguefi: "Like I always say human history is such that for certain reasons "history" which ought to be based on fact is often distorted to achieve some points often political in nature."

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did u just recycle my words? and u say u are the "bright" one bringing something "new" to the thread? hahahahahahah, u be really ozuo and an old one for that matter. and yes, igboland is full of bushes and they still eat people there. you should come and see how corpers that they posted to isiala ngwa area for primary assignment were crying their eyes out make igboman nor go use dem make pepper soup and nkuobi, crying as if say na afghan dem for say make dem do primary assignment. igboland na bush. infact the word "igbo" has bush written all over it, and those so-called anioma igbos who say are they are "ibos" even consider those "igbos" across the niger/east as bush people. no wonder people say igboman is a bush dweller, haha

btw, iguefi what are u still doing in benin? leave benin and pack go stay one of the several bushes in igboland and see whether dem nor go chop your children.

and how come u have not answered my question? no answer? don't tell me u have become a dullard who cannot answer question. ozuo

^ lol, ovbioba, i don't even have time to verify all his dumbass claims,  why would i waste valuable time on him especially all his claims about the development igboland, they only look good on paper abi na thread i go call am. but when u go to igboland to actually see for yourself, all u will see are a lot of yan-yan-yan people, a lot of red sand and lots of bushes, haha

"Ogie " can honour" from your words the primary meaning of Ogie is the king"

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no dummy, the root meaning of ogie is "honour" or "praise" not "king" that is why edos have common names like

obasogie: meaning the king is worthy of honour/praise 

oba- king
so- worthy-of/enough
ogie- honour/praise

as you can see, obasogie does not translate to king of king or something like that. and you can practically replace oba with any thing/being that the edoman values

because the edo man is a religious and spiritual being and values god we have name like osasogie:  god is worthy of honour

because the edo man values and adores his mother, we have name like iyesogie: mum is worthy of honour

because the edo man values and cherishes his child, we have name like omosogie: child is worthy of praise

because his homeland/home comes first to the edo man, we have name like owasogie: home is worthy of honour

and other names im sure u can translate are

idusogie
edosogie

and that is why “ogiso” which was the word for king during the ogiso era was not one word but a combination of two words ogie-iso. ogie-honour, iso-sky, because we are told the ogisos considered themselves the kings from the sky. so the word “ogiso” would have been coined by the people to give honour to the king from the sky and it eventually became a word that represents king, and it became accepted.

but ogie does not literally translate to king, it literally translate to honour as you can see from all the common edo names i have given as examples,  and that is why there is nothing like ogiesogie or ogisosogie in edo langauge cos they have already given the ogiso(ogie-iso) the "honour"

"But dont think I will wake up suddenly to disrespcet myself to "argue" with a small boy like you."

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lol, really? dat was funny.

anyway, here was another question you dodged. why did the nigerian soldiers of mostly midwest-igbo stock, now known as anioma-igbo stock who were supposed to defend the midwest from invading biafran soldiers refuse to fight? and that was the reason the midwest invasion met little resistance. but when the people took matters into their hands and resisted the occupation, biafrans were flushed out of the region with little resistance like the losers they are and will remain.  biafra was a lost cause and will forever be a lost cause cos the igboman can never survive on his own, he is going need a lot help, and someone to blame for his failures when he fails. and  that is why he can never stay in his so-called developed cities but will choose to litter every other city in nigeria, so that he can biiitch about unfair treatment from the indigenes. and guess what? true to his nature he lays the blame of the failure biafran cause not on himself but on the ijaws.

and oh, all the military leaders that stole power with a gun to enrich themselves and ruined this nation should have greedy igbos to thank because they laid they foundation for it, coz so-called "igboman" started the retardation of the growth of this country by stealing power.

iguefi, and yes, i will retain that name for you cos it suits you better. and i didnt say i have never insulted you, i said i avoided it in my last post (after realising the age difference) prior to the one where you decided to insult me. and you are the one doing the whining not me, im just responding to your whines and giving u the attention you are crying for. you say "facts that are verifiable" yet you have not shown any? so keep biiitching and see if it will change anything. everything you have written are based on assumptions not facts.

1) aba is not a state capital, what of umuahia? e never still reach time that it will be developed with or without "govt patronage" that the so-called igbo man is known for? a capital since 91? that's some 20 odd years. and it seems you can't read and understand properly, i never compared benin to asaba or any igbo town/city. i said i didn't see anything that made me go "wow" in igboland even with all the so-called development you've been purporting on this thread and as far as im concerned from asaba to onitsha to aba are all dead, only owerri is manageable and i gave reason why. so get that into your thick skull.

2) i don't know where u stay in benin that you see mud houses, the only mud houses left in benin are old the family houses that have been there for ages, built by a family's patriarch, so the family won't see any reason to tear it down cos it is the "igiogbe" and every edo man cherishes his igiogbe, and for me, my father's house is my igiogbe. and lord willing, that house is going to stand there for centuries to come in its original state. benin is an ancient city and has been a city long before the igboman knew what a city was, so why won't the city still have traces of the old way of life? so what we do is renovate the old house but keep it in its original state. my great-great-grand father house is still there in benin in its original state, my great-grand-father's house is still there also, my grand-father house was not entirely built with mud and still there, my fathers house is not a mud house and still there, and by the grace of Osanobua, my house even though not yet completed is not being built with mud also. so why would our family now tear down houses that retains the benin culture just because it is mud for a so-called modern one that is not so modern just because it is built with cement and blocks? only an igboman like you will be dumb enough to do that and replace it a passage house of "face me, i face you". and btw, are blocks not made up of the same "sand" that mud is made up of? ewe noma ma! and all these your lies are funny, benin is more developed and better planned than asaba. in fact benin should be one of the best planned city in nigeria with the best network of roads. the roads may not be too good as it is with most if not all nigerian cities but the roads are there, and u will never get stuck in traffic for long in benin cos of the good network of roads. and thanks to the new governor who has made all the roads in the city his priority, so the roads will all be in good conditions again.

3) there is only one "oba of lagos" not three, not two, but one. and he is the head of all the other kings who do not bear the title "oba". so if the eleko/or olueko of eko gave up his "traditional" title "eleko" or "olueko" to proclaim and become "oba" it means lagos is no longer a yorubaland abi? coz according to you, no such thing happens in yorubaland and since he is now the oba of lagos, lagos should be regarded as edoland, coz after all, just like the aworis a sub-group of yoruba who migrated there, the binis a sub-group of edo also migrated there and it was the binis who founded the govt and instituted the monarchy that has survived till this day. so lagos is now edoland, abi nor be so?

4) i wasn't expecting you to expand on the african-american issue with a paragraph, but since you did, it was blah blah blah to my ears coz i don't care

5) why don't you answer questions? i asked who was the first yoruba king and what title did he take to represent king? please dig your archives and provide an answer for dat cos like i said, yorubas didn't have an "oba" who was a king, pre-Eweka. owomika was translated by binis not yorubas, and mind you, there was nothing like "yoruba" at time in benin. and if it was yoruba, like someone once asked me on this thread, which part of it is "my hand" "has" "struck it"? again, go dig your archives and come back with an answer. and on the iyoba issue, why is it "wrong compare to an event that occured in the 16th century a period when there was no authentic records or writing with the British colonial experience of yesterday so to speak"? it is all history and we all know how people manipulate history to suit their agenda, whether it happened a thousand years ago or happened a century ago, it is all history. and why would the iyoba now influence the people that flogged her because they despised her so much? how do you emulate a woman and an instition that you purportedly wanted to destroy? it doesnt make sense. what makes sense is that those areas were benin colonies or directly under the influence of benin. and when they finally got some form of independence, they made up stories that would suit their agenda to make the current leaders seem powerful just like how citizens of countries the british colonized often say "fvck the queen" even though they never "fvcked" her or had the ability to "fvck" her. but keep your history and i will keep mine. and like i said, you are also inclined to believe whatever you want, so stop "flogging" it. haha

6) so Hausa/Yoruba/Igbo are the only groups in nigeria? oh please do come with another essay, im enjoying our banter coz it gives me something to read in the early hours of the morning, ozuo.

lol, how is it irrelevant? im only responding to what your dumbass master iguefi wrote. so tell iguefi to stop writing "irrelevant" shytes, or else, you will continue to get irrelevant responses on this thread. now bite me, you toothless bulldog.

iguefi look @ something interesting i found

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Oba_Lagos060602-N-8637R-006.jpg/581px-Oba_Lagos060602-N-8637R-006.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Oba_Lagos_060602-N-8637R-010.jpg/491px-Oba_Lagos_060602-N-8637R-010.jpg

HRH Oba Rilwan Akiolu, the Oba of Lagos at a ceremonial meeting with foreign dignitaries in his palace courtyard.

This is why in Yorubaland you will never hear of a king being called just "Oba".There is always a unique title(usually in form of a praise) associated with such kings eventhough they are Obas.

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i guess from your own assertion, lagos should no longer be regarded as yorubaland and should be regarded as edoland. abi nor be so? coz after all, even the first "oba" there was from edo.

@ nzonigga,

thanks for proving my point by displaying a picture of an african-american who according to his wiki page says he is of igbo/akan ancestry. but i guess to you morons he can only be igbo and not akan, even though it was the same igbos who probably sold is father side of his family into slavery

.You tend to insult Ogbuefi1 because he has a superior agreement which your fellow fools here can not match.

and no, dumbass, i insult iguefi whenever he decides to insult me. respect is reciprocal. here, 9ice made a song about it. enjoy.

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^^^^^^lmao!!! u guys are funny.

"6)Hahahaha, No Benin , No Zik,,,You are funny how can you compare an individual to an ethnic group, Yes Zik was a great man and he is no more but Benin , Yorubaland, Igboland and wherever are all there and could even produce more Ziks or whoever , It is not our custom in Igboland to worship names and old heroes, You can be who ever you want to be, Be focused and hardworking simple.

iguefi, sorry, i just had to come back to this now dat im on my lappy. igbos dont worship names? yet they keep throwing names here and there? just read all your posts and posts by igbos, they are ones who throw names and display pictures of people who are igbos around. they even go out of nigeria to claim african-american celebrities who they feel are of igbo-origin and display their pictures around. how many threads have you seen of edos throwing names and displaying pictures of edos around?  that shyte is resevered for mostly igbos and yorubas who are always competing with each other coz hausas dont do that shyte too. so yeah, you dont only worship names, you also worship past and present heroes. so make una carry on.

.But going deeper , I learnt from a source that the Benins alledged Igbos were taking over their land simply because Zik said during a visit to the City that it is the "Land of his Ancestors", And invasion of the Midwest excited suspicion that the Igbos were "annexing Benin lands " just as Zik had noted. You see the mis interpretation of points here ,

well, you cant blame them when the nigerian soldiers who were supposed to defend the midwest from biafran soldiers, failed to do so because they were mostly of midwest/anioma igbo stock. so riddle me this, why they sit back and not fight? abi nor be dat one be soldier work again, to fight and defend their land from invaders? so was that not "annexing"? school me.

and oh,

6) you are also inclined to believe whatever you want, especially what will make you feel powerful. and the flogging of the iyoba is one of those things dat makes u feel powerful. citizens of nations the british colonised (nigerians inclusive) often say "fvck the queen" and it becomes part of their history. but was it ever true? did they ever "fvck the queen" or had the ability to "fvck" her? so why won't the iyoba be "flogged" in anioma and become part of their history. it makes sense.

lol, iguefi, i avoided insulting you in my last post because from your posts, i realised you are way older than me and even if we are just chatting on the internet, i should give you that respect. but since you couldn't reciprocate it, then sorry you are a big fool.

1) now, what you should get into your thick skull is that societies grow together, that is why i dont care about your "irrelevant" issues coz even if they break all the states down to a point where a street becomes a state, it still won't change anything. the level of  "growth and development" in igbo states will not be so different from those in edo states or yoruba states or even hausa states for that matter. even if the growth and development in igboland is slightly higher, the difference will not be of such an important significance that will make igboland look like a first world country and the land of their closest neighbours remain a third world country. that will never happen. which is why i am also not amongst those clamouring for the break-up of nigeria because it is irrevelant to me, coz no matter how many countries you break the nation into, the quality of life for the average citizens of each nation still won't be different from each other. the igbo nation won't see growth and development that will not flow into the neighbouring countries or vice versa.  ghana is not so different from nigeria and nigeria is not so different from any other west african countries with stable govt and relative peace. and since you are such a historian, you will also notice that benin empire, oyo empire, and aro confederacy all saw growth and decline almost at the same time. i have been to some eastern states and i didn't see anything that made me go "WoW" as if i was in a far more developed land and mingling with far more intelligent and organised people. the only place i could see myself settling in was owerri, cos it almost looked and reminded me of benin. other parts of igboland from asaba to onitsha to aba are dead as far as im concerned. i hear enugu is cool but i have never been there, but as far as enugu is still part of africa and nigeria for that matter, i don't think it will be anything special. and you cannot continue to lay the blame of whatever is happening in igboland on nigeria coz igbos were even the first to stunt the growth of the nation and her young democracy with a senseless coup that led to a senseless war. and according to you, igboland is already 41 post-biafra while nigeria as whole is just 51 post-independence. so the “blame” should not be placed on nigeria coz i guess like they say, a fool at forty will remain a fool forever. 

2) it depends on how you interpret "ogie", to my knowledge ogie can mean "honour" or "praise" it doesn't necessarily translate to king. does the word "king" literally translate to king/monarch? so we can never really tell the reason why people use a word to interpret/represent something. and i actually don't care who oduduwa was, all i know is that he was not yoruba. so who was the first yoruba king/monarch? what title did he take to represent king?  coz ooni and alaafin were offshoots of oduduwa who was not not yoruba. now oranmiyan didn't come with the title "oba", the title "oba" came from eweka, and to my knowledge, eweka was the child of oranmiyan and an edo woman and he spent his life in edo land and not in yoruba land. so i don't see how the word "oba" would have been yoruba, especially when yorubas never had an "oba" pre-Eweka. so how can you have a word for "king" when you never had one? it doesn't make sense. 

3) the word owomika is not even yoruba, it just sounds yoruba. can yoruba people translate owomika? or what does owomika mean in yoruba? i won't claim to know-all but I'm yet to know what owomika mean in yoruba. eweka we are told could not speak as a child. he was a mute. and when he started speaking, the first word he coughed out was "owomika", just because it sounded yoruba does not mean it was yoruba. i can write anything here now that would sound yoruba but would that make it yoruba? no it won't. so my take is that eweka was called the first word he uttered when he started speaking.

4) if you are talking about group achievements, from what i see, the edos are also not doing badly in all fields (crime inclusive).  considering our numbers and resources, we are doing quite well for ourselves. we get marginalised by the federal govt also, but you don't see us whining like pvssies over it like the igbos do, playing the victim card and feeding on it like pathetic losers, instead we work hard to achieve what we want.  you come here to act as if igbos are all united and have one voice, whereas they are the most fragmented group in this country and igbos are their own worst enemies. so come write me another essay about the marginalisation of the igbos, as if they are the only group in nigeria.

5) i was just beginning to respect you, but you are a dumbass.

the only thing i will give to igbos is that they don't really care about tribes when it comes to making money, and they will partner with anybody who is willing and who has the ideas, and their women are not bad at all i must say. and contrary to popular belief, igbo women are not materialistic, the ones i have dealt with anyways. but all those other things igbos use to boost their egos are all false claims coz from what i can see, we are all doing well in nigeria, and that is "just managing". we just dey manage.

and my advice to u iguefi is, turn all these your fictional stories into a movie script and make a nollywood movie out of it. it will be a hit and e go sell not doubt because it will be very controversial, and that is what nollywood is lacking right now, fictional stories that are controversial, that will grab the viewier's attention.

iguefi, lol @ "Igbos are doing quite well now" you guys are so full of yourselves, yet nothing dey una yansh, hahahaha

i guess igbos are doing quite well, while others are not. but why are igbos the ones who do most of the whining about marginalisation and always looking for "compensation" even where it is not merited, if they are doing so well? it must be greed, huh?

anyway, i don't have time to respond to all your irrelevant points,  i will just pick the ones that interest me.

first and foremost, oba is not a "yoruba" origin word for king and i don't know who came up with that big lie because prior to the reign of eweka 1 who founded the oba dynasty in benin, there was no "oba" in yoruba land. so the first person who was a king to ever take the title "oba" was an edo man. even till now, the oldest yoruba monarchs whom i assume are the "ooni" of ife and "alaafin" of oyo don't bear the title "oba". so how can the word oba now be a yoruba origin word for king? that doesn't make sense.

secondly, you have made it clear time and time again that igbos were the first to embrace western education and even had the first school that is older than edo college in benin, so why did it now take the igbos so freaking long to write down their historical version of the flogging of the iyoba? and how come most of the igbo history are just surfacing? what have they been doing with all the so-called education they embraced so early? using it to learn how to make and perfect akpu?

then u want others to give evidence of civilians who were killed by biafrian soldiers while you have failed to do same. the only evidence you have given so far is that your pregnant aunt got killed by nigerian troops, but who is going to take that seriously when u can easily make up false claims to support your argument. i can as well say my uncle and his pregnant wife who was expecting twins were killed by biafrian troops during the invasion of benin to support mine.

and it seems u don't want others to "rewrite" history while you are doing exactly that, rewriting "history". so why do u feel i/we must bow to your rewritten history and uphold it as the truth?

anyway, im surprised to learn that zik ancestry came from benin both paternally and maternally. hmmm benin has contributed a lot oooo to this nation, so without benin there would have been no zik for igbos to brag about.  so why won't we be proud.

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lol, vicenzo, it was funny to me. but sorry dat i can't feel ur pain and i'm sure u definitely can't feel mine, so we are even.

found the song i was talking about on youtube

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"The money you lost in bank savings is a reparated funD to cover military cost."

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Dat was funny , hahahaha

bokohalal, oh cool. thanx. i was almost going to say my proverbs are open for modifications and corrections

and there is this old bini music by fabomo called "itendo", it has a lot of edo proverbs. i think i will search for it to buy to update my edo knowledge coz i remember it was a big hit in those days.

i must say this forum has made me to start taking my written bini seriously, lol.

so i think i can now attempt to translate this proverb:

you don't pound a woman's v.agina with your fist -- aiyé ékpa gbé uhe

btw, iguefi, how did the title "Ado N'Idu" now translate to "Onitsha which originated from Udo in Benin Kingdom?"  that does not make sense
is Ado now the authentic igbo name for Onitsha? the title should be renamed Onitsha N'Idu, or Onitsha should be renamed Ado, only then will it make sense.

and that your fictional story of the flogging of the iyoba, whom i assume was idia, was very funny i must say. thanx for adding humour to your posts.