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chyz, wot are u even saying? first u said:

"The itsekiri were labeled by Nigeria as Yorubas,"

then now u say:

"Clearly i said that Nigeria does not see the Itsekirirs as yoruba."

dat is why i said u should try to make sense with your posts and not just post for posting sake. well, unless u want to tell me your first quote was a typo and wot u meant was "The itsekiri were NOT labeled by Nigeria as Yorubas,"

and then my question would be why not? is it becos they have been able to establish, strengthen and sustain their identity for centuries long before the british came with the yoruba identity? and well, the usen identity was also etablished, strenghtened and sustained long before the british came with the yoruba identification or categorization or whatever you choose to called it.

and i will check the pic u posted later on my lappy cos i don't see pic on my fone. otherwise like i have told u repeatedly, usen people are edo people and whether we appear in a diagram as edo or not does not change that fact coz i just checked the list of nigerian tribes posted on another thread, i didn't see my tribe usen.

and i don't really care about "pinning" you against the old dummy iguefi, i just want to know who is telling the truth on the thread. is it you? iguefi or agbontaen? coz all three of u claim to be from the same anioma. all of you cannot just be coming up with different versions of the same issue and expect anyone to take u seriously.

it seems u are trying to be smart with the english language coz i see no difference between the words "termed" and "classified". and i already told u, we are "termed" or "classified" or whatever word u choose to use, we are edo people coz just like the itsekiris im yet to meet an usen person who "classified" or "termed" as anything else other than usen and edo

and who are the nigerians "labelling" the itsekiris as yorubas? coz i will say this again, im yet to meet an itsekiri person in real-life who "labelled" himself as yoruba.

and finally, if u don't take my word as the truth and u also say iguefi the supposed expert on anioma people is a liar and all the junk he has written so far i not the truth, then who is telling the truth? agbontaen? coz someone has to be telling the truth on this thread. abi u wan tell me say no one is telling the truth on this thread?

are itsekiri people classified as yoruba in delta state? or u guys classified them as igbo? id love to get the answer from u coz im yet to meet an itsekiri person who classified as any thing other than itsekiri in real-life.

i already answered ur question we are edo people. but dis is what ur expert on anioma history wrote

"within our territory are people claiming a Yoruba origin and till this day speak a dialect which is primarily Yoruba with serious saturation of Igbo words."

^^

he said the language they speak till date is primarily yoruba, keyword -- primarily. and here u are telling me it is igbo.

how can a language that is primarily yoruba with igbo loan words be igbo?

The itsekiriland is not classified as yoruba or yorubaland.

so it is usenland that is classified as yorubaland? try to make sense with ur posts and stop posting nonsense just for posting sake.

but u want to force ur identity on them and claim they are igbo and then separate from their mother-group(yoruba)

and sorry to break ur heart anioma is not strictly igbo. even iguefi has stated that there are indigenous yoruba people in anioma

dat does not even make sense unless u are telling me the itsekiris are also trying to separate demselves from the so-called mother-group(yoruba)

ezeagu, if dat is what u call efforts, ok cool.

so let me keep it "alive" and let me tell u what will likely happen in the future anioma state. u will have groups of people that will still not identify as igbo becos of both cultural and political reasons, and they will start demanding for their own state and anioma will be further broken down. and eventually each local govt will become a state in nigeria and it still won't change a gatdamned thing.

and im not even making any efforts. and i actually don't care how many states they create in nigeria cos it really does not change the quality of life for the average nigerian

Migration can happen in an unoccupied land.

and migration can also happen in an occupied land.

Well, it's not Nri (or any other Igbo town, maybe except Agbor) that has  a stereotype of witches flying in the night or certain types of supernatural behaviour in animals, such as vultures, or mass rituals at monarchs funerals. I'll leave you to the insults though, because it seems its all you have now in your desperation to show how the Ani Oma are non-Igbo (despite the fact that the official language of the state will be Igbo, from Ugbodu to Igbanke and maybe even Ozarra ).

so i guess all the ritualised activities in igboland that use people for blood money till this present day has nothing to do with juju and witchcraft. and there are already enough insults and stereotypes flying in this thread from people who are desperate to prove that anioma is part of igboland and not part of another group. but the thing they forget is those same stereotypes and insult can easily and equally go round. and speaking of vultures, the most vultures i have ever seen in my life was in igboland. vultures were so numerous that i became scared to eat chicken cos it was even an igboman dat even told me outta jest not to be so sure that the bird im eating is chicken, dat it might be vulture.

and all the posts from this thread already shows dat anioma is not strictly igbo so i don't need to prove dat they are non-igbo. and because of some of the so-called nri-igbo cultural influences, some may ignore other aspects of their cultures dat has nothing to do with igbo and they may choose or may be forced to identify as igbo becos of political reasons.

it is self-explanatory coz "i don't care enough".

ok cool. but i don't care enough to share with u. i guess u will have to wait for iguefi to google the names for u. he is good at using google.

why do u care to know?

^^ ok, then u will have to wait for the edo version.

what LGA are the Usen in?

did google fail u? if u couldn't use the english version try the igbo version that was influenced by nri and not aro. . . .hahahaha

According to me?

but i u said yorubas migrated much later after nri meaning nri migrated earlier.

and the stereotype of juju and witchcraft is associated with all nigerian groups and africans in general. and well it is what it is, "influential" culture otherwise known as juju and witchcraft that they used to dominate the people. and oh, plus cannibalism that is unique to igbos and their eastern kin in nigeria cos i think nri ate a lot of the ingenious people.

bottom-line: who were the indigenous people nri dominated with the so-called influential culture?

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ok, wotever.

Yoruba migrated much later after the Nri.

^^^

but according to u, nri people are also not indigenous. so who were the indigenous people nri-igbo stole the land from, with their "influential" culture otherwise known as juju and witchcraft. and it was this influential culture that dominated the indigenous people they met there since nri was so weak they could not use military conquest to conquer the people.

^yeah ryt. it just seems everyone else are the migrants apart from the igbos.

so when did the yorubas in aniomaland migrate there? since u claim it happened recently, u must have dates and stories to back it up. and oh, don't tell me dat same old story used for other so-called migrants. "the yorubas were at war with each other and some had to flee." it just seems every other group was at war but the docile igbos were busy sleeping and licking each other's arses while fleeing groups occupied their lands.

and why do i need to check my posts? any specific reason that i would give a shyte about?

Aniomaland was not isolatedfrom Yorubaland and within our territory are people claiming a Yoruba origin and till this day speak a dialect which is primarily Yoruba

so according to you, there are even yoruba people in the so-called aniomaland? 

so let me see, it seems the so-called aniomaland is made of yoruba, edo, ika, igbo and a few other groups that i may not privy to at the moment. so why are igbos the ones laying claim to it?

its seems to me so-called anioma is really non-existent but greedy igbos want to claim what has nothing to do with them. and the igbos propagating this agenda are the recent igbo migrants from owerri such as yourself. so here is a quick and simple question for u:

why did the so-called influential nri fail to assimilate the yorubas in anioma even till this day?

lol, iguefi, unlike u, i don't need to use google for anything. i understand the language and the usage of words. the root-meaning of ogie is honour/praise. and it is funny u keep debating the issue even after i no longer care about the point. but i guess your inflated ego got bruised when i corrected u dats why u just can't seem to let it go. but no matter how u try to twist it, the root-meaning of ogie is honour/praise not king and i have already explained it with the edo names i posted earlier.

and it is funny u keep referring people to google yet u claim u are not good at using google and not a google master. u are an idiiot and a classical case of an internet scholar who google and wikipedia has twisted his head with a lot of junk. and no, it is not olu awure it is elaware u old dummy.

and usen people don't speak yoruba we speak usen. ask any usen person what language he speaks, he will tell u it is usen and we are edo people. no usen person dead or alive will identify as yoruba get dat into your thick skull.

^ dat your "past glory" nonsense does not even make sense when all dat is being discussed in this thread is about the "past" and things dat happened in the "olden" days and u were quick to remind me of how great aro WAS in those olden days.

i guess igbos are the ones stuck in the past and living in past glories but they have their heads stuck so deep in their arses dat they don't just see it.
Ay i already told u guys earlier leave bini outta your silly arguments. u don't need us and our past glories to seem important. gud morning.

sorry i have another point make. ofigbo the igbo bushman also had to post his shyte with a new id.

can't u see how idiiotic and cowardly the igbo man is? he had to wear a mask and come with a "new identity" just to engage fellow igbos his "brethrens" in a discussion to make his bushy and cowardly igbo clan seem more superior to other igbos. dummy

no, u are the idioot who think u can tell me where to post.

and oh, the other idioot is your fellow igbo bush man ifigbo who had to drag edo into his made up stories tomake nri seem important amongst other igbos. fools.

exotik I feel the Bini live in past glory

yeah ryt. and igbos just cant seem to leave the same past glory alone.

u guys claim u are doing well and have moved on from the past, so why are u still aligning yourself with the same "past glory" of the binis to make yourself seem important in this present day? funny people

ofigbo the british spilled blood also to establish their dominance across the world and till date nigerians mostly igbos are still licking their arses so spare me the bullcrap.

nri kingdom never existed. it was made up recently that's why even a lot of igbos do not know anything about the so-called nri. and nri dominance in igboland just happens to be prevalent in the same areas ikhime aka eze chime stepped foot.

u storytellers should focus on how to strengthen your recently made up stories about nri with other igbos and leave edo out of it.

leave bini outta your silly arguments cos for all i know, nri was the same ikhime the bini man who you igbos corrupted to eze chime. and it was ikhime that civilized present day igbos not the archaic nri/eri the son of gad that never existed.

and one thing i always find funny from all these fictional tales is that, whenever any group of people want to exalt their powers, they always have to drag the bini monarch into it. yoruba people will say in the olden days before the oba was crowned, he had to take authority from the ooni, and igbo man will say it was nri who officiated the ceremony. why is aligning your stories with the bini monarch so important to you clowns? is it becos bini was the most powerful kindgom and still is?

Infact in the olden days, it was ndi Nri that officiated in the coronation of Bini obas

OfoIgbo:
I don't expect the Edo on the streets to still know this, however the royal household and the major traditionalists in Edoland will know that

tales by moonlight.

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yeah ryt.

ChinenyeN:
"Igbo = Eri (Jew)" - exotik

---- Wrong.

oh, then knock that into the head of this your fellow igbo man so that i will not make the mistake again. his videos about the subject are all over youtube. go there and knock common sense into his head.

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