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damosky12:
All you have done so far is to rant and spew some apparent incoherence.

I have you glaring facts.

You have shown nothing. Yet, you want to be taken seriously.

You obviously will make a good comedian

damosky12:
Stop the jamborees. Spare me the vain mentions, my friend. .

Yet again, I repeat, if you have any Quranic verse that authenticates the death and resurrection of Christ for mankind, kindly reply me with them.

If you don't, bye.

damosky12:
Ok. Thanks for the blessed compliments.
I quoted from the Surah

See this:.

"A Surah is the term for a chapter of the Quran . There are 114 surahs in the Quran, 86 are classified as Makki, while 28 are Madini..."

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surah


Can you please enlighten Wikipedia


BTW, I gave my evidence.


Again, I repeat,
Please, if you have any Quranic verse that authenticates the death and resurrection of Christ for mankind, kindly reply me with them.

damosky12:
Wh hiy are you doing this, my friend?

I'll help you,

Sura 4:157-158: " They [the Jews] slew him[Jesus] not nor crucified [him], but it appeared so unto them...they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain, But Allah took him up unto Himself."








However, what did Jesus say:

We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life! (Matt. 20:18-19).


If you have any Quranic verses that authenticates the death and resurrection of Christ for mankind, kindly reply me with them.

damosky12:
At least, I know that Islam rejects the death and resurrection of Christ, not to talk of the remissions of sins...

damosky12:

I don't need to. If I would go through the Quran, I might have to go through the Jewish Toledut , The Buddhists and Hinduism books, the Ifa corpus , as well as the hundreds of other religion documents in the world.

But, note, religions are perspectives, thinkings and ways of men...

Jesus is God's single message to the world. He, alone, is the proof of God's salvation for man.

To receive Him, his death and resurrection, is to receive God's salvation.

To reject Him is to reject God's salvation...

See what he said;

John 3:17-18
[17]For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[18]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Give this gospel a trial my friend.

damosky12:

On the contrary, my dear friend, ANY SANE CHRISTIAN esteems the authority of the Bible above all else...
2 Timothy 3:16
[16]All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Jesus had to say this,
John 5:39
[39]Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Jesus and ALL his Apostles quoted and taught from only the scriptures (as documented in the old testament Bible)

Similarly, no sane Christian will "consider" the Quran or any other material. That's error!

The foundation of the Lord is established only in the scriptures as documented in the Bible.

1 Corinthians 3:11
[11]For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Why should we shelve the truth for illusions?



Yes, I know Jesus Christ.

The old testament prophesied of Him figuratively as the coming lamb of God to save man from sin...

The new testament epistles explain the reality of His death and resurrection of man's ETERNAL SALVATION.

2 Timothy 3:15
[15]And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.



My dear, it is not about the "things". It is about the SINGLE MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE, JESUS CHRIST

Romans 1:1-3
[1]Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
[2](Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
[3]Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh.


Romans 3:21-22
[21]But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
[22]Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Moses and all the Prophets spoke of Jesus.

Jesus Himself demonstrated this...


Luke 24:26-27
[26]Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
[27]And [i] beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. [i]


HE IS THE SINGLE MESSAGE.

It's Him, the lamb of God who paid for the sins of all, that I see...

ONLY IN HIM can a man be saved from sin.

Acts 4:12
[12]Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Shepherd00:
Lol, this is your excuse? lame.

May be you shd explain this koranic verses to yourself because I understand them better.

Quran 2:19;193[And kill them Wherever find them and turn them out from where they have turn you out[/b]

Quran 47:3-4 Those who disbelief follow falsehood but those who believe follow the truth, so, when you meet them in jihad smite them at their necks till when you have wounded and killed them, then bind a bond firmly on them and take them as slaves. if it had been Allah's will, he himself could have plundered them, but he lets you fight to test you.

Quran 61:4 Surely allah loves those who fight in his way

Quran 2:244 Then fight in the case if Allah, and know that allah careth and knows all things

Quran 4:89 Take no friends from their ranks until they flee on the way of allah. but if they refuse seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take them not as friends and do not accept their help.
these are not Bible verses buy koran and allah is the one talking there not Jesus.


according to koran any Muslim who does not kill for allah I'd fake Muslim and will not enter paradise.

Every true koran believing Muslim is a terrorist because he wld practice what is there.


And that makes them what?

If everyone student went to church to collect money for their education wld there be a Church standing anywhere?
Wld it interest you to know that it's church which sponsored me in the University? And a lot of students are under their scholarship scheme. You don't just walk up to a church and ask for money.
There's a reason why we have families both physical and Covenant. Do you imagine that a family wld have sons and daughters who needs to pay school fees but wld rather give the money out to a stranger who walks Into their house? No, even Jesus said, 'Bread is for children not for dogs'.
If you have a family both biological or Covenant, you call them.


You have no idea what you are talking about.

Herbephe1:
Your failure has brought disaster to power,

damosky12:
My friend, leave original copy of the Quran. Stop being vainly defensive.

The gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ONLY eternal payment for man's sins. (1 Corinth 15:1-4)

This death and resurrection for the remission of man's sins IS the gospel that Jesus' disciples preached throughout their lives.

Acts 4:2,33
[2]Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.

[33]And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

Acts 17:18
[18]Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

Only in believing in Jesus' death and resurrection and receiving the eternal salvation in Jesus' name, is a man saved.

Romans 10:9-10
[9]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[10]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

There is no salvation in any other way.

Acts 4:10-12
[10]Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
[11]This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
[12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

It is this same gospel, the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, that Mohammed and Islam (led by the devil) perverted to lead many astray...


157And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]: 158But Allah raised him [‘Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise. (An-Nisa 4:157-158,
Muhsin Khan) 3 4


The foundation of Jesus' finished works stands unshaken nevertheless. He alone is THE WAY (John 14:6).

Islam is just a perversion of this way...

Shepherd00:
Will it interest you that true Muslims kill anyone who believes in Jesus Christ?

Have you ever heard what Isis did to anyone who believes in Jesus?

Have you ever met any Muslim convert to Christianity and heard how much their own parents tried to murder them becos they believe in Jesus Christ?

wld it interest you to know that when the muslims catches a Christian, the first thing they try to Make him or her do is to recant his or her faith in Jesus?

Wld it interest you to know that the reason true muslims kill Christians is because of Jesus Christ?

For your information, Isa bin Mariam is not the same person as Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
For, Jesus Christ was the son of God, while Isa was the slave of allah.
Not even ordinary is a slave how much more Jesus Christ the King of Kings.

Muslims are slaves, Christians are Kings according to their Holy Books.

damosky12:
LOL. Don't play that card?

Mark 16:15-16
[15]And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
[16]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Those are the words of Jesus. Believing Him is believing tmHis gospel which is HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION and the salvation ONLY in His name.

See

1 Corinthians 15:1,3-4
[1]Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you...
[3]For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
[4]And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

No true Muslim believes this...

Did Mohammed believe it?

Shepherd00:
Inter-faithing means believing in YHWH as God Almighty and also seeing nothing with joining in when Muslims do their things. You can teal towards Islam and teal towards Christianity at the same time.
Or, you can believe in the concepts of New Age philosophies and that of Christianity at the same time.

In other words Ecumenism. To believe that all roads leads to God.

That is Satan's way, not God's whose name is Jesus.

oyatz:
This clearly shows that you are either mad or very unintelligent.

Gani Adam and all those you are qouting aren't upto 100 people, how can this translate to your imaginary Fulani slavery?

You have descended into insanity...check it sir.

oyatz:
Now explain exactly how all these affect your life?

babaolofin:
It is the Ibos that are slaves to the Hausa Fulanis. They are very tribalistic and practiced racism but out of frustration and inferiority complex complained about the Yorubas. You brought out a very key observation that the Yorubas are not remembering their past. During Obj era, the Afenifere remembered Col Adekunle Fajuyi who lost his life in the process of save guarding Aguiyi Ironsi. The memorial was a major event in South West. Obj and some factions never supported the memorial. The IBOs made very ungrateful comments against Fajuyi.

In South West, there is a duplicity of opinions and DICHOTOMY of political orientation which made a common stand to be difficult to achieve. Political vendors from the North only come to South West to look for camp to pitch their tent. There is an internal crisis in the South West because of dichotomy of political orientation since Awolowo era. There is an internal political warfare which made the South West the least developed region in the South. Outside Lagos, no development in South West. South East & South South are developed and the IBOs are lucky to inherit foreign reserve of almost $50 billion from Obj/Yaradua and an oil price up to $140 per barrel which they looted to develop themselves. The military developed the North. South West no development. The day South West will come to remember her past, then Nigeria end is nearer, but the IBOs blackmailing of the South West cannot achieve this.

femolii:
You are talking of slaves I only know slaves are from your region called OSU's you should be more concerns on how to liberate your brothers and sisters from OSU I have come across a lot of your people(OSU) hidden their identity from people some of them even relocate to unknown lands just to avoid been call OSU what a shame.

oyatz:
I know as i was going down reading the comments that one mad tribalist will soon turn this into an Igbo Vs Yoruba thread.


Yorubas have proved that they love slavery to Fulanis.

oyatz:
You need to liberate yourself of this Psyche of conjuring up an imaginary concept of Fulani slavery and forcing anyone whose opinions differ from yours to accept your weird idea.

oyatz:
And why not leave the Yorubas to their fate?
Do you think you are wiser than the over 40million Yodubas?

Must the Yorubas think and act like you do?

Why bringing your rabid irrational hatred for the Yorubas to derail this well deserved war memorial?

babaolofin:
It is the Ibos that are slaves to the Hausa Fulanis. They are very tribalistic and practiced racism but out of frustration and inferiority complex complained about the Yorubas. You brought out a very key observation that the Yorubas are not remembering their past. During Obj era, the Afenifere remembered Col Adekunle Fajuyi who lost his life in the process of save guarding Aguiyi Ironsi. The memorial was a major event in South West. Obj and some factions never supported the memorial. The IBOs made very ungrateful comments against Fajuyi.

In South West, there is a duplicity of opinions and DICHOTOMY of political orientation which made a common stand to be difficult to achieve. Political vendors from the North only come to South West to look for camp to pitch their tent. There is an internal crisis in the South West because of dichotomy of political orientation since Awolowo era. There is an internal political warfare which made the South West the least developed region in the South. Outside Lagos, no development in South West. South East & South South are developed and the IBOs are lucky to inherit foreign reserve of almost $50 billion from Obj/Yaradua and an oil price up to $140 per barrel which they looted to develop themselves. The military developed the North. South West no development. The day South West will come to remember her past, then Nigeria end is nearer, but the IBOs blackmailing of the South West cannot achieve this.

Shepherd00:
Inter-faithing with other religions is fornication and adultery.
[b]Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices.[/b]Exd 34:15

Committing fornication refers to
contaminating the good things taught
by the Word and falsifying its truths.
Like Budaatum is doing.

femolii:
So what concerns Yoruba's now with this matter people should think well before opening their gutter mouth, am not supporting killing but we all know the causes of that civil war the leader of that coup that killed Nigeria prominent politian the man is from Asaba so that is the taste of his medicine well rest in peace to them.

maasoap:
You're as dumb as your Generalissimo. This is a faceless forum, dumbasss

nextstep:
Yes, we are commemorating the atrocities of the war committed by all belligerents. However, what has that to do with your original comments about puppets and masters? I just didn't see the connection, nor the reason for the comment in this topic.

But this notion of "opened the gate"...
1. was there a gate?
2. why wasn't it guarded by Nigerian army?
3. why leave such a strategic position open or in the hands of civilians?

I feel that's a lazy excuse in the search for who to blame... and I suspect anybody who was in the path of Biafra<->Nigeria was going to get mowed down, regardless of the actual truth.