₦airaland Forum

donnypool:
tell this maggots to train their sons. we have 371 tribes in Nigeria, but one tribe is mostly making headlines for crimes abroad. Please give them their own country and see how people will respect Nigeria

And Boko Haram and Cattle rearing murderers will be yours to face. Very good.

coolitempa:
d Israelites.......... ...chie....how did we end up in d same country wit this guys Lord laggard.......u be useless man o...

Yet who fought to be a separate country? Hmm...

ijawcitizen:
Cannibal igbo man, your obsession on our land and people will kill you on day. I've never seen a person with such a low self esteem, can't you just simply feel comfortable in your igbo skin?

Okile obori, ye nomu mini.

baybeeboi:
ORIGIN: The Efiks are believed to be originally from Uduak Eset (Isangele) in Cameroon before they migrated to Nigeria as far back as 8,000 BC.

The Efik migrated from their Ibibio homeland in the 1500s, changed their system of government, got rich and the rest is history.

aim5:
Yup especially the Efiks and Ijaws. You can see it in their liberal culture and abundance of English surnames.

They were 'liberal' before Europeans, in fact the Europeans that influenced them, the Victorians, were not liberal at all.

The Sokoto Caliphate, of which he is a part of, destroyed Nigeria at the request of their British masters. This is a historical fact.

asha80:
And NgeneUkwenu was swearing that the article is true..sometimes you just have to draw a line between pure politics and trying to curry favour by engaging in extreme foolishness

The internet, unfortunately, is sometimes a leveller between greats and zoo animals.

Obviously that shaky article was a lie, as I said. From the man who ventured into Biafra during the war? You guys need to verify things before blasting legends who are way above your ethnic squabbles. "Internet infestations" LOL.

Nill

dipopo83:
The ibo people should warn their people to stop soiling the name of the country for business sake why can't u do a legit job and promote the name of this country it none of my business if they keep killing ur people in indonesia for drug related offense COS U HAVE BEEN WARNED

Who is soiling the name of the country more? Drug traffickers, or children beheading British soldiers in London?

CHESSBOARD:
Ezeagu menh where have you been...

Right here, hovering.

quimicababes:
I have no problem with Obeah being derived from Igbo language just don't want it to be interpreted as Caribbean folks using it in terms of Igbo divination systems as I am aware they have their own religious system.

I suppose the High Commission market it more because people show more interest in it....there is a market basically.I do not think Igbo people I have met personally market their culture.Like my best friend ex-husband for years is an Igbo man from Onitsha, Anambra but in all the time I have known him...he barely spoke about his culture.Another one I met at university who is from Delta state he barely spoke about his culture even when interest was shown as I am the type of person who ask people about their culture even if they are from the Caribbean self.Same cannot be said for the Yorubas I have met who were generally eager to share their culture.

It is weird as I have met more Igbo Nigerians than Yoruba Nigerians and they are married to Trinidadian women so I don't understand why the culture is not promoted.The Nigerian High Commission really tries with promoting Yoruba culture.Presently Yoruba language is the only African language that is taught at the University of the West Indies which is where the Language Institute is under and I heard from the teacher they want to introduce it up to the diploma level.

Historically with regards to Trinidadians we have a stronger pull towards Yoruba culture as it is quite normal to meet an Adeola,Olatunji etc as there are many Orisha devotees so I get why the High Commission promotes it but at the same time there are a few half-igbo babies in Trinidad so I think they can work on it.

Yoruba culture marketability is also helped by private organisations as the Yoruba teacher reached out to Black conscious groups which gives further exposure.If Igbo can work on that I think eventually we will learn more about the culture.

Igbo people are more private. It's like Haitians said in that poem, the Igbo govern themselves. There are dozens of Igbo cultural groups and summits around the world, on Youtube you can find associations for China, Japan, Malaysia, Netherland, Finland and so on, so I wouldn't say they drop their culture. The other cultures you mentioned come from more imperial settings where they are used to enculturating other people. Igbo people are basically individualists with a strong sense of family, outside of that they can be quite weary, so unless you really want to integrate into the culture or you visit Igbo land there's lesser chance that you will know much about Igbo culture apart from business mindedness. Yoruba culture has also received more academic attention because the west is more acquainted with their culture and hierarchical form of government, while Igbo culture was seen as more diverse and republican. A popular saying is the Igbo have no ruler.

What I would say is despite the promotion of certain cultures in the Caribbean, it seems that some Igbo influence still exists strongly embedded into the culture of English and French speaking Caribbeans, not through importation, the biggest evidence being influence on creole languages. If there were to be some outreach between Igbo culture and the Caribbean, the depth of this may be more revealed. It's only recently things started being attributed to Igbo culture anyway when they were initially pegged to more studied or more marketed cultures.

Anyway, in the mean time Yoruba seems to be sufficing for the people who care enough to learn African languages.

GodMode:
Stop with the excuses...

Let the port stop at where the water is high and let them find means of getting the containers to the mainland...

There's always solution.. Never give excuses for incompetence..

And who is going to pay for that? It's not an excuse, it's logical to build a sea port at Ibaka. That's the solution.

GodMode:
There's PORT harcourt, there was a port in Calabar before there was one in Lagos...

People leave Lagos everyday and nothing changes..

Fashola helped in making Lagos what it is today...

Port Harcourt is like Warri, it's actually more inland than anything hence it's shallow, same for Calabar which is very narrow and shallow. The only viable port in the east would be in Akwa Ibom where there is a solid coastline, unlike the mangroves and shallow waters of Bayelsa, Rivers and Cross River. Look at a topological map.

Ilekeh:
Which part of Lagos? Ajagunle? Or Lagos market?


https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/images/uploaded_images/article/rebecca-Lagos-MAIN-PHOTO.jpg[img]http://3.bp..com/-zwZf5Mcpa0w/UR94XKbi6LI/AAAAAAAAAEk/Tt_-Lw5CkKE/s1600/1.png[/img]

Why open Lagos nyash like this?

It's no longer an attack. It's genocide.

1) How did Awolowo die?
Don't care.

2) Mention Nigerian ethnic groups who have contributed most to the development of Lagos.
Ijo, Ogoni, and anybody whose land feeds Nigeria.

3) Who created Nsibiri?
Ekoi people created symbols which spread out through the Cross River area and was modified and expanded on by the Efik, Ibibio, Igbo, and so on. The ukara nsibidi cloth, for example, the main medium of nsibidi, is the intellectual property of the Cross River Igbo. Everyone in the Cross River has a cohesive relationship when it comes to cultural borrowings.

4) Prior to the civil war, who were the most successful people in Nigeria?
The British.

5) Post civil war, who are the most successful people in Nigeria.
The oil tycoons and polithiefcians.

6) Why did the civil war occur?
Because Nigeria is an illegitimate and genocidal state.

7) Who suffered most from the civil war (What if someday I told you that the North did?)
The middle belt and indigenous peoples of oil producing areas. Northerners have always suffered under the feudal Sokoto state.

Both great

sukkot:
nigga you aint calabar . and dont let a calabar man hear you say he is igbo. he will skin you alive.

Don't be a fool.

https://s14.postimg.org/4qoywesgh/Colbert_Turn_Around_No.gif

sukkot:
no such thing as calabar ?

ok you have officially lost your dayum mind. are you trying to claim calabar people too ?

See who is arguing about the Bight of Biafra.

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sukkot:
the fairest in southern nigeria are calabar not igbo

1. There's no such thing as "Calabar", 2. The DNA variation between Cross River peoples and Igbo people is very slim.

khiaa:
Gumbo is nothing like okro soup.

Okay.

This gumbo, right?

https://s18.postimg.org/gtya9ddrt/021.jpg

AkanIgbo:
There is no evidence that African Americans speak Igbo or Akan languages, but that does not mean that they are not descended mostly from Igbo and Akan people; because we know that they are. Btw, Jamaicans were aware of their African ethnicity long before most African Americans; because it was illegal for African Americans to keep the customs or speak the language of the Igbos and Akan people in America. However, African Americans still kept up with a lot of their Igbo customs by growing stuff like okra, corn and yams, which we call sweet potatoes. Many African Americans in the Southern USA used to live on small family plots near their families and they kept small gardens behind their homes were they grew those crops; hell when I go to visit my family in rural Tennessee right now I notice that all of my family members live in a direct line and they all have small gardens wherein they grow okra, corn and sweet potatoes. I live in the City of Chicago, but my family has been in Tennessee, North Carolina and Virginia for a few hundred years.

This is what Douglas Chambers calls 'Igboisms'. Deeply rooted African culture that goes undetected.

OgagaMic:
u see reason y I dislike gbos,,,


Godforbid, never will Any SS form alliance with u, I was making a point u tribalize it, am jst happy we re nt in ur country, men Our land 4 b, Warri Ojukw, or ughelli obi, una 4 convent all our tins to Igbo

tanks to my forefathers, David EJor. and all those who never let us b enslave in 1967 in d name of Biafra..


Gosh, Igbo pls change. dont think other tribe re nothing y u re d king,

Igbo people own Nigeria.

Your response?

TheReborn:
Jesus! Are you being deliberately stupid?

I wrote that the article says most slaves in Virginia came from the Caribbean. You are the one claiming Ibos dominated Virginia.

So why did a museum in Virginia specifically build an Igbo village becasue:

"Nearly 40% of the Africans imported into Virginia during this time were brought from a part of the West African coast called the Bight of Biafra. Many of these captives were Igbo, a people living in the upland area north of the Bight of Biafra in what is now the nation of Nigeria. The West African Farm represents life in a free Igbo household in the Biafran hinterlands in the 1700s."

http://www.frontiermuseum.org/exhibits/1700s-west-africa/

TheReborn:
Most slaves were taken from Barbados than shipped from Africa. So where did our Igbo tribal jingoist get their '70%' from?

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/population/slaveorigin.html

Some sources claim Mozambique as having the highest number of slaves in Virginia, next from Nigeria. Some say Angola.

In Julie Dash's 'Daughters of the Dust', one could see more slaves from other African countries than Igbos. Igbos were not even popular among slave owners in Virginia because they refused to face the grim reality of slavery, wilfully dying in some cases to avoid slavery.

These people will not kill me. Mozambique that did not produce 1000 slaves. The lengths!

"The largest minority group in Virginia is African American, at 19.7% as of 2013.[122] Most African American Virginians have been descendants of enslaved Africans who worked on tobacco, cotton, and hemp plantations. These men, women and children were brought from west-central Africa, primarily from Angola and the Bight of Biafra. The Igbo ethnic group of what is now southern Nigeria were the single largest African group among slaves in Virginia.[133] Though the black population was reduced by the Great Migration, since 1965 there has been a reverse migration of blacks returning south.[134] According to the Pew Research Center, the state has the highest concentration of black and white interracial marriages.[135]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia

"Beginning in the early 1700s, Virginia tobacco planters imported increasing numbers of captive Africans to work their plantations. The shift from white indentured servants to enslaved Africans in the colony’s tobacco economy had far-reaching repercussions. Race-based slavery soon became a central feature of life in Virginia, and Africans and their Virginia-born descendents would be treated as property, and denied the freedom and opportunities of white colonists. As settlement expanded westward, enslaved Africans and African Americans were among the settlers in backcountry areas. Nearly 40% of the Africans imported into Virginia during this time were brought from a part of the West African coast called the Bight of Biafra. Many of these captives were Igbo, a people living in the upland area north of the Bight of Biafra in what is now the nation of Nigeria. The West African Farm represents life in a free Igbo household in the Biafran hinterlands in the 1700s."

http://www.frontiermuseum.org/exhibits/1700s-west-africa/

Na so.

quimicababes:
The term Obeah is used in the context of juju whether it is Indian or African divination systems.Heck even Freemason business is termed as Obeah.Basically it is used in a negative way most times to refer to Black Magic.I didn't dispute that African culture is not more significant but my point it is not merely Igbo or Yoruba but a fusion of various different African ethnic groups.

Also people in the Caribbean are not exposed to Yoruba culture because of Yoruba descendants merely but because of the fact the Nigerian High Commission market Yoruba culture more.

Likewise Voodoo refers to any kind of 'witchcraft' of African origin, but it doesn't mean Haitian Voodoo isn't firmly rooted in the Vodun rituals of the Fon people of Dahomey or Benin. Obeah, the real obeah, derives from Igbo obia.

Well the High Commission thing is interesting and gives this discussion a new dimension. Maybe Yoruba culture is just marketed better/more. Igbo people don't really promote their culture much, they're more private, maybe because of the culture of individualism.