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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 10:20pm On May 03, 2015

firebrand01:
How on earth the moderator moved a useless topic like this, without a link or any form of documentary evidence, to the front page beats me. It means I can wake upo tomorrow and open a thread about Obama beating a Nigerian and it'll hit the front page? Seun needs to do something about this. We have idiots as moderators on Nairaland.

You're soooo pained! It's sooo obvious. Because of a history thread? What a wuss.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 10:16pm On May 03, 2015

People are so stupid, I can't reason! If someone from a country with a significant Igbo population that were forcefully stripped of their names and culture changes their name back to Igbo, what those that tell you?

Fools.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 10:14pm On May 03, 2015

firebrand01:
I've googled and checked everywhere. There is no association between the Igbo's and this guy. Because there's "IBO" in his name suddenly means he's Igbo? Justt like they were claiming the "igbo" in ijebu-igbo means igbos own ijebu igbo.
Igbo's are fraudsters honestly!

Your ignorance is epic.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 10:12pm On May 03, 2015

firebrand01:
You're a fuckîng fraud!
This guy has no Igbo roots whatsoever. [size=15pt]He only changed his name to identify with his African ancestry.[/size] You guys are just lucky he chose to identify with d Igbo's. See how you're now claiming him as your own. You people are a tribe of fraudstars honestly!

Onuora married Adugo (née Phyllis Ranglin) in 1978, in preparation for which he had a name change, the name being chosen by his bride-to-be (who did not want to be identified as Mrs. Wong) with the help of an Afrikan Professor Umona. Their names were chosen from the Igbo language from the southeastern region of Nigeria. "Oku" means Fire / Light which burns oppression, while "Onuora" means voice of the people. His full name, Oku Nagba Ozala Onuora, translates as everlasting fire or light which burns oppression.[6] Together with Adugo, Onuora founded the "Prugresiv Aartis Muvmant".[1]

I like how you're getting excited like you've made a major revelation. I don't even know why or how I should reply to an instance of such stupidity, so I'll summarise: [size=14pt]That's the fu[/size][size=14pt]ck[/size][size=14pt]ing point![/size]

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 10:08pm On May 03, 2015

bigfrancis21:
I was just about to post that image!

It is a well-known fact that up until 1970 some african american families bore 'ibo' as family last name, in accordance to their Igbo ancestral heritage.

Maybe an Igbo diaspora thread should be opened. Piss these guys off even more.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:59pm On May 03, 2015

quimicababes:
I have been reading nairaland threads and it is silly how both Yorubas and Igbos talk about the Caribbean but how many of you all have been there or even lived there for a number of years? We use the term Obeah in Trinidad also...it is not unique to Jamaica or Barbados.Caribbean cultures are very similar in the English speaking Caribbean countries like Jamaica,Trinidad and Tobago,St Kitts and Nevis,Grenada etc.

Jamaica like Trinidad received East Indians and like us they have major East Indian influence but moreso us as more than 30% of our population is East Indians.The point I was glaring at is even if Barbados is known as Igbo...the average Caribbean folk does not care about these respective tribes.Our culture is not merely Igbo or Yoruba because we have influences from several different African ethnic groups which is further diluted by Chinese,Indian and European influences.

For those who care about knowing more about African culture they go the Yoruba route or Ghanaian because we are more exposed to it despite meeting more Igbo Nigerians.

I know there are Indians in Trinidad, but that's besides the point. My point was that Trinidad is unique becasue they received Yoruba indetured servants more recently which meant that they could retain Yoruba culture, just like Ibibio and Efik recaptured peoples (when slavery was abolished) were able to retain Abakua in Cuba. The main shamanism in Jamaica and Barbados, specifically, is Obeah. I don't know of any other form of shamanism apart from Myal which is extinct. And African culture is vastly more significant to the Caribbean islands than Chinese culture, Indian culture is significant to Trinidad and Guyana.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:54pm On May 03, 2015

tzoracle:
At my age were u as socially conscious ??
Ps ur the one who is a child
I made my comment,its my right to air my thoughts why then did you quote me
Child ko motherless babies ni

So in your mind it's socially conscious to talk down to someone who posts something that's potentially educative because you want to impress others and show that you're what? More Nigerian than everyone else?

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Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by ezeagu(m): 9:49pm On May 03, 2015

AreaFada2:
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You made a very good point until you mentioned being in Delta. Urhobo/Okpe, Isoko are Edoid people. And Urhobo has the largest population in Delta. The Okun of Kogi are Yoruboid people. You must be very young and not remember Bendel State. State creation by dictators like IBB does not validate or invalidate History.

An Anioma person (Denis Osadebey) was the First Premier of Midwest region that became Bendel. But it has taken Anioma 24 years to produce a governor in Delta State. Delta was not created through referendum like Midwest Region was.

Until Biafra war, the term Igbo was not even used to describe Anioma people in Benin. They were called Ovbie-Asaba, Ovbie-Agbor, Ovbie-Ekuale (Ukwani), Ovbie-Oboro (Ubulukwu), etc.

Remember that while war with Biafra was going on, Anioma people were still initially attending State Exco meetings in Benin.
Ovbigbo/Ivbigbo was generally reserved for people from accross the Niger. We had both Anioma and Igbo classmates, neighbours, tenants etc.

Bendel States boundary was the River Niger, they are very happily now in a state where their voice can be heard and the incoming governor is from Delta North. The Igbanke people in Edo want to be with the rest of the Ika in Delta State. Agbor people today are called Ovigbo. It's interesting that you're making up Anioma as if that is an ethnic group from the past, which it's not, Anioma is simply the Igbo groups in Delta State who are as different from each other as other Igbo groups, in fact people in Asaba have more in common with people Onitsha than Agbor, and the same for Kwale and Ugwuta. By the way the supposed Igbo coup were by 'Anioma' people and there were Ika Biafran soldiers.

AreaFada2:
Now that identifying with larger influential tribes is cool considering the political mathematics of Nigeria, I guess you now call people whatever the chose to be called.

They were called the Western Ibo before and Aboh was known as Ibo or Eboe town.

Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:41pm On May 03, 2015

tzoracle:
*yawns
So u saw my comment
And all you could do was quote me??

I could have figured you're child. Go to bed. Commenting is not an obligation.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:35pm On May 03, 2015

TheReborn:
No, YOU read carefully.

You're the one making up points from nothing. Making up arguments that are not there.

Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:33pm On May 03, 2015

tzoracle:
Nawa o

All dis igbo posts are starting to annoy me
It shows inferiority complex,stop digging out all this facts like like u need anyones validation

And before u judge
I'm igbo
Full blooded

So somebody opened an interesting historic thread, but all you wanted to do was show how much of a Nigerian you are?

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:30pm On May 03, 2015

quimicababes:
I am from the Caribbean ,Trinidadian to be precise.Caribbean folks do not speak Igbo nor do we study African history generally in terms of the different ethnic groups and their respective history.Most Caribbean folks don't care about that as our culture is too mixed up with African,Indian,Chinese and European influences.For those of us who care about knowing more about African culture beyond what was preserved the bridge is usually Yoruba culture...like in Trinidad we have quite a number of Orisha devotees that our laws even have an Orisa Marriage Act.

I have met more Igbo Nigerians in my country than Yoruba Nigerian however.Also for the English speaking Caribbean,the University of the West Indies (UWI),Trinidad campus teaches the Yoruba language not Igbo again because there is more interest in Yoruba culture and ties to it.

That's Trinidad because of the indentured servants that went later, however in Jamaica the influence is Igbo which is why people talk about Obeah there and in Barbados. The nickname for Barbados is recognised as Igbo and so is the national hero Bussa. You could make the same argument with Ghanians in Guyana.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:26pm On May 03, 2015

sherizzle1:
Your argument is strong but your choice of reference (Wikipedia) nullifies it's strength. Not hating or anything like that but could you dig up a more reliable reference?

Inline reference guys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obeah#cite_note-eltis-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkanoo#cite_note-doug-3

Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:13pm On May 03, 2015

TheReborn:
Please refer to my previous post and help yourself with the links there. Read the one below and rid yourself of your confusion.

http://ugrrquilt.hartcottagequilts.com/woods

The Igbo tribe is great enough. There is no need to steal the achievements of other tribes as their own.

You seriously need to read things more carefully.

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Politics › Re: Nigerian Troops Arrest Boko Haram Fuel And Food Supplier In Adamawa by ezeagu(m): 9:06pm On May 03, 2015

Wow, he looks like he hasn't been feeding himself. What if he was forced?

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 9:00pm On May 03, 2015

TheReborn:
Nsibidi is not an Igbo creation. Please do your research properly.

Well, you need to read more carefully.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:59pm On May 03, 2015

duni04:
Madam scammer, where is the evidence of the dominance? Or are Jamaicans so ashamed of their "Igbo(hemp) heritage" that we've never heard of any Igbo(hemp) association?

Jamaican musician Michael "Ibo" Cooper

https://s17.postimg.org/kgjmlxajz/ZZZ006146_PP.jpg

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:56pm On May 03, 2015

duni04:
Madam scammer, where is the evidence of the dominance? Or are Jamaicans so ashamed of their "Igbo(hemp) heritage" that we've never heard of any Igbo(hemp) association?

Jamaican activist, writer and professor Ekwueme Michael Thelwell

https://s4.postimg.org/ktmhfa3tp/height_182_no_border_width_320.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekwueme_Michael_Thelwell

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:55pm On May 03, 2015

duni04:
Madam scammer, where is the evidence of the dominance? Or are Jamaicans so ashamed of their "Igbo(hemp) heritage" that we've never heard of any Igbo(hemp) association?

Jamaican Poet/Dub artist Oku Nagbala Ozara Onuora.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gdsbongExuo/hqdefault.jpg

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:54pm On May 03, 2015

scholes0:
but the table did not state their tribes, but just their port of export only.
Also, who else borrowed Nsibiri except for the Eastern Igbos? It is just like the Ibibio hat Igbos wear, which they have also today made their own, without acknowledging it's actual origins

Because a lot of the times the slaves ethnicity (although sometimes generalised) were noted. If you look up some books you will see the the main ethnic group from the Bight was Igbo.

Nsibidi is used by other Cross River groups like Ibibio, Efik, and as far as Idoma, etc. How can they not acknowledge its origins when the hats variations carry Ibibio names or the occasions when its used are Ibibio cultures like Ekpe? The hat spread out and was picked up by different Igbo groups as fashion, but the Aro people, Ohafia and other Cross River Igbo groups are not drawing or debating any cultures with Ibibio, Annang, Ekoi and other groups who they have connected with.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:49pm On May 03, 2015

pinkguy:
Chiso. !!!!! Igbo want steal ibibo n efik history again we knew the real origin of that hand writen google with help, just the way the steal the ikot epene riot and name its aba riot

If we start mentioning things ethnic groups have borrowed from even Arabs and take it as their core culture, you will not like it.

Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:43pm On May 03, 2015

scholes0:
Bight of biafra does not just signify Igbo ancestry, but also Ejagham, Efik, Ijaw, Cameroonian, Gabonese etc
Also those ideograms actually belong to the Ekoi/Ejaghams and the Efiks. Although some eastern Igbo (Like Arochukwu) groups may have also used it, it actually wasn't their creation.

Nsibidi comes from the Ejagham, everyone else borrowed it and made their own variations to it which is part of their culture. The Bight of Biafra had many different people, but the majority taken were Igbo.

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:42pm On May 03, 2015

bigfrancis21:
Also in Jamaica, they refer to the people from the country side as 'country ibo' till today.

I think 'Country Ibo' is a type of yam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jamaican_Patois_words_of_African_origin

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:35pm On May 03, 2015

PlutoLA:
This just goes to show that Igbo ppl were the most gullible tribe and were most easily tricked into working as slaves in the US

Is that why they're sending Igbo teachers to Brazil?

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:32pm On May 03, 2015

tobtap:
with due respect...are u saying only igbo slaves introduced okro/okra and DAT'S ur proof.. as per jonkonnu/obeah igbo traditions are part of the practice not the founders...and please GIVE me PROOF.
cheers

Obeah is an Igbo word, Obia, it means sciences.

"Obeah (sometimes spelled Obi, Obea, or Obia),[1] is a term used in the West Indies to refer to folk magic, sorcery, and religious practices developed among West African slaves, specifically of Igbo origin."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obeah

Okra is an Igbo word, which means that Igbo speakers were probably most identified with it, besides that, the question was about linguistic evidence and okra is just one word along with Eboe Drum, Red bone, and so on.

"The origin of the word junkanoo is rather obscure. Douglas Chambers, professor of African studies at the University of Southern Mississippi, suggests a possible Igbo origin from the Igbo yam deity Njoku Ji referencing festivities in time for the new yam festival. Chambers also suggests a link with the Igbo okonko masking tradition of southern Igboland which feature horned maskers and other masked characters in similar style to jonkonnu masks. Many of the colonies Jonkonnu was prominent, Bahamas, Jamaica, Virginia, had a relatively high percentage of Igbo people among the enslaved African population. Similarities with the Yoruba Egungun festivals have also been made."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkanoo

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Culture › Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 8:14pm On May 03, 2015*

These signs are disputed as being European designs.

tobtap:
only peeps with INFERIOR COMPLEX will claim the 75% of the entire slaves in another place,yet no visible proof thru(CULTURE, LANGUAGE AND CUISINE ) to back up their claims.
my candid opinion

They're not 75%, 75% have at least one ancestor. There are evidences of Igbo culture, language and cuisine in the United States. The word okra was introduced into English by American Igbo slaves. The culture of Jonkonnu and Obeah/Hoodoo practices were introduced by Igbo slaves. Gumbo is very similar to Okro (or okro soup) and it's based on okra.

https://s28.postimg.org/ahn030xkt/2193599404_18c8015c20_b.jpg

Virginia/North Carolina Jonkonnu masquerade

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Politics › Re: Igbo Wars Against The British by ezeagu(op): 7:28pm On May 03, 2015

https://s14.postimg.org/476gq7oup/Jaja_of_Opobo.jpg

Jaja of Opobo was exiled by the British.

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Celebrities › Re: Nollywood Stars Pay Tributes To Bunor by ezeagu(m): 7:24pm On May 03, 2015

Peacewealth:
watin concern bicycle with filling station

Why are Nigerians like this?

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Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by ezeagu(m): 6:28pm On May 03, 2015

bigfrancis21:
@bold...that is not true.

What do you mean?

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by ezeagu(m): 5:16pm On May 03, 2015

AreaFada2:
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As it is now, with every hamlet in present day Nigeria claiming total independence since Adam and Eve, we will never know. Especially without written proof of treaties and such things.

But why did the Obi/Dein become so influenced as to adopt Benin kind of government?

Why is it that several earliest Obis of Agbor were called "Gbenoba", another version of Igbinoba (meaning I take refuge with the Oba)?
Why is it that only later Obis took Igbo names upon becoming Obi?

Why did Ojukwu famously despise some Onitsha indigenes for claiming descent from Benin?

People can laugh at an idea out of true knowledge of facts or out of ignorance.

Ontisha people are from Benin, how African Americans are from America.

The Bini people call Agbor people Ovigbo, meaning Igbo people. Ask an Ika or Bini man whether that's true or not, many of them on nairaland. They do not claim Agbor, neither do Agbor claim Bini. Agbor history sees themselves allied with Benin, in Olaudah Equianos memoirs he talks about a people who were under the Benin Empires influence, but 'nominally' and they still identified with themselves and in extension Igbo. Judging from Eze Chima's story, it seems that in the past at least there was a healthy relationship with the Edo and the Igbo which resulted in influence in both ways (see Ikegobo-Ikenga, and the Edo and Igbo calendar days). The Agbor people have Bini influence, especially the royal family, that is not in dispute, however Ika is an Igbo dialect and the head deity of Agbor is Ani, the earth goddess, as in other areas of Igbo land. I could go on. Agbor is an Igbo town with much Bini influence, lets just accept this and move one. Even Ika people who are in the minority that don't identify as Igbo do not identify as Edo, which is why they are in Delta.

Politics › Re: Is Gov. Amaechi An Ijaw, Yoruba Or An Igbo Man by ezeagu(m): 5:07pm On May 03, 2015

By the way, I'm not claiming Ikwere oh, but you know this Ikwere migrating from Benin thing is bullshit right? I'm just checking.

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Politics › Re: Is Gov. Amaechi An Ijaw, Yoruba Or An Igbo Man by ezeagu(m): 5:06pm On May 03, 2015

DeCleff:
Any Ikwerre man denying his igbo origin is deceiving himself.Migrating from Ancient Benin kingdom doesnt change anything because many clans in Abia state also migrated from Benin.

https://s2.postimg.org/nxrnuqcw9/200x200px_ZC_2ff5111e_michael_jordan_laughing.gif

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