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cmbagwu, there's nothing wrong with your transcript, try get some letter from the school and *refire* as they say. why Dem change 214b to white paper sef

cmbagwu:
My visa was delayed yesterday the 9th of June by a young VO in Windows 4 after delaying the guy before me. I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong. I was as confident as the VO.

VO: Good morning
Me: Good morning and how're your?
VO: Great! Please pass me your passport, Sevis and i20.
Me: There you go. Passed them.
VO: Why did you choose this course?
Me: I chose to study Public Affairs because, asides the fact that it's a sub-field of my undergraduate study which is Political Science, this course is a vital requirement needed to take up a position as a Public relations officer after my masters degree.
VO: So you will come back to your place of work when you finish your masters?
Me: Yes please but as a Public relations officer as I am currently a Customer Service Executive in my place of work.
VO: So where do you work and what are your duties?
Me: I work with XYZ Bank PLC as a customer service executive and I manage the social media platform which is Facebook, Live chat and Twitter handle. I'm duly responsible for handling customers queries and complaints and I provide feedback from customers not satisfied with a particular product or service to the unit involved for proper review of the complaint and possible timely resolution which is conveyed to customers on these platforms. We also monitor the channels (Mobile app, Online banking and ATM) for network fluctuations.
VO: Okay.. So what will this course do for you?
Me: This course will give me the knowledge and insights to manage emerging issues in my organization both internally and externally. It will also help me develop current policies and besides, it's a vita requirement needed to take up a position in my current place of work.
VO: Are you married?
Me: No please.
VO: Any kids?
Me: None for now.
VO: I can see Public affairs on your DS 160 and on your i20 I'm seeing Public administration.
Me: My admission is in Public affairs but when my I20 was sent to the US government for processing they didn't have my course of study as it is stated on their system and the course closely related was Public administration. Both courses have same curriculum and course outlines. So it's no different but just the name.
VO: Okay. Starts typing for a minute or two.
VO: Have you traveled outside the country before?
Me: No please, haven't had a reason to until now.
Vo: Okay. Types again and again and again.
Then he handed me a white paper. As I was about to jubilate, he gave me back my passport and i20... and he said, I'm sorry I won't be granting you a visa at this time. Then I looked at the paper.. 214B. Now in a white paper... I shook my head.
Me: May I please confirm why I'm being delayed again?
VO: it's written in the paper I just gave you.
Me: Thank you. Didn't know where I gathered the strength to laugh. But I laughed anyways.

This isn't the end of the world. I said to myself. I just drafted a mail and sent to my school telling them about the discrepancy in my admission letter, and what I have on my i20 and the international office was kind enough to send me a mail stating the reason for the discrepancy and asked me to print it and send apply again.

I have chosen to defer till Spring 2018 coz school (New Mexico Highlands University) resumes on the 15th and I don't want to start explaining and speaking English at the POE.. Let me give myself time.

Yet another sound interview , and yet VO plays god again.

Kenny G- Morning

BloodyMitch:
Mid tier kwa that school ain't ranked in top tier or 2nd tier sef

so far it's not top ranked (Princeton, duke, MIT etc) , and its not a one building school , I consider it mid tier. My opinion

omoluabiguy:
Mehn... Y'all got bunch of time on your hands... Unnecessary arguments every time

and you that doesn't have time , how many patents or billions do you have to your name. .

DeeTus:
Why? Because they destroyed our country out of selfishness.

Getting the US visa was so difficult before especially in the early 90's. Please I do not want to discuss further on this anymore. My life is much important than visa.

"You have you way. I have my way. as for the right way, the correct way, the only way, it doesn't exist".. selah

DeeTus:
LOL. Look let me tell you, Americans are tired of having a very large number of candidates running away from your country. If you refuse to apply for a visa, will they force you to do so?

Furthermore, every applicant is unique. Meaning every applicant is different. Not everyone that applies for visa, gets it. You ought to understand this. How much was the visa fee before? In other words, the 64K visa fee you are unhappy about is what your politicians caused because they run kangaroo economy. If these Nigerian politicians continue to be selfish, Nigeria would still be in total shambles.

I don't understand why you keep bringing Nigerian politicians into the discourse; you're really not getting it, if they are real tired of us booth scratching africans, then they should implement a hardline stringent quota system , at least everyone knows they don't stand a chance, and will face Belle to where pot dey on fire. PS: pls read my signature

DeeTus:
Hahahahaha. You don't tell these guys how to organize their country. After all, your country is third world and full of highly corrupt politicians. Who think stealing public funds is their birthright.

How do you explain the fact that two people go for visa interview for Harrisburg university and get their visas; then when the third guy goes he's denied and we all come here giving advice like the school is not great, yet Two people got their visas hassle free; what then is the metric for obtaining an F1; downright lies, psychological game of chicken. 64K is what a factory worker at coca cola would earn in three months and honestly the rules have to be very clear so people stop fasting, praying and wasting multiple 64K, for visas which have no benchmarks for obtaining.

DeeTus:
Why won't they ask for reasons? Do you know the number of applicants in Lagos everyday let alone Abuja?

like I said previously, then There should be F1 quota like the H1-B , and distribute them, with top schools having more , while the number slopes down as the ranking reduces. then and only then would the game be visible to the blind and audible to the deaf. Because the way things are , it's like playing a tennis match against the VO's while they also refree the match, and decide when you get points. sometimes they would be fair, other times they would just decide everything you do is a foul.

TWoods:
Here is the problem... the VOs know for certain that the majority of folks applying for F1 visas are simply using it as a means to immigrate to the US. Easy signs are:

1. Choice of school - too often people are selecting schools that no one has heard of. Tiny 1 building schools, schools that have accreditation issues, schools with significantly weak entry requirements... what do you expect a VO to think?

2. If you truly are a genuine student, it really should not be a hassle describing why you selected a particular school. This is where VOs are expecting you've done your home work. Here prospective students typically take entire weekends to visit schools of their choice, spend a good deal of time calling up their prospective schools, seeking out alumni or faculty with similar research interests. This is the type of thing the VOs are looking to see, not nonsense about faculty:student ratio or size of building. That tells the VO you basically picked the only school poor enough to grant you an I20.

Man, I understand everything you have said, but my post addresses people who have picked mid tier schools like ETSU, with Ok profiles , but yet still have to give a PhD dissertation abstract as to why they picked a school. plenty people,not excluding me pick school for a plethora of silly reasons; Close to Home, It's the only school we've known for a long time, most family members have gone there, it's cheap and averagely ranked etc. My point is , the simple fact a person wants to go to school further, and not be out in the streets hustling is because they haven't figured out life fully, and are hoping to find convictions somewhere, somehow. The UK has worse immigration path, yet Nigerians still go there, same with most of Western Europe. And if they don't want unneccessary queues at Walter Carrington, they can have F1 quota just like H1-B and distribute to schools from top ranked to one building schools, at least the game would be pretty clear and the Visaofficer (s) wouldn't have to play pretend God, author and finisher of our lives paths. PS: you didn't put up the travel pictures again

Observer25:
That's why it is their country, not ours.

... you dey mind my Nonsense , no vex

The real reason behind all these unnecessary choice of school reasons, is the Visa officers themselves; they are looking for poetry where there is no art. Person picked a school, Finito!!!!!!!. If all F1 seekers had life figured out, them no go dey stress body for Walter Carrington jare.

kenny G- Sister Rose

AfonjaBoston:
Nigerians and "I must have car" mentality

They just wan begin enter street sharpaly.

No be so . cool head down. Plan yourself and hop into those smelly public buses. Enjoy the pain of real hustle save and have enough liquid cash I repeat liquid cash growing moustache in the bank while reading like say tomorrow no dey

You can start thinking of car or motor after at least a semester

afonja!!!... hydraulic soup eater

DreManuel:
We are speaking from our limited experiences that are not hard and fast. But could you clarify what course/ program the person that got into UC Berkeley with 307/309 is doing and if they got full-funding? And what year they got in, and what their GRE score breakdown is, and overall academic profile? That can help people here make informed decision and not run the risk of making hasty generalization.

And before someone understate the importance of GRE, they might dig more into their program/schools of choice. I applied to University of Michigan and on their site for Mech Engr., it was stated that GRE scores of min 85 percentile in Verbal and Quant is required with a CGPA of 3.7/4.0. So anyone who doesn't meet the initial criteria won't likely have a chance tankless of funding. Well, that's for Mech engr @UMich, i can't say for other schools.

In a nutshell, in this age of Overwhelming complexity, accelerated change and tremendous competition, I would have no weak link in my profile, such as my GRE score, when I can do something about it.When the push comes to shove, every aspect of admission req is essential and you can't predict which would undermine you in the face of your competition.

incredible post!!!

so so ETSU upandan.. hia!!!!

walahi, if I hear any simpleton shout guru here again I will e-punch your cranium :< :<

feels good to be back , to the center of "Grace" , Twoods, Greetings

after my undergrad application experience, I got to start taking American colleges talk about holistic admission as b*llshit, you should see the complaints about nepotism by Indian profs on quora , some even go as far as taking only members of their caste. What I have learnt so far is
Stats matter a lot; CGPA, GRE, Tournaments, Papers- Yes a lot is said about holistic admission, but how much attention do you want busy ( grant chasing, tenure chasing) faculty members to pay to all the extra b*llshit.

these are trying times ooh chai , Visaofficer (s) are starting to whisper about rehearsed answers. make Dem no vex Sha

alexandersherif:
.... Bros I do read am But I don't see the name of the master program he is going for

no vex sah

OluDare01:
Chemistry, I'm sure you didn't read his transcript

, that's why a lot of people will claim to have read part 1- present and still ask what DS-160 is

cc exciton

riskyjay777:
Hello fellow nairalanders... Have been a silent follower on this thread and i will be going for my visa interview at the embassy in two weeks time. Pls i ve a sample of a rehearse interview on which i practiced and i wld be grateful if u pple can correct some of the loopholes in it. Thanks.

VO- Gudmorning
Me- Gudmorning sir/ma
VO- Pass me ur passport and i-20
Me- Ok
VO- Why r u going to US?
Me- I am going to US to pursue a bachelor degree in Accounting and business conmerce which will take me a total of 48months.
VO- When did u finish ur high school?
Me- I finished 2009
VO- What have u been doing since then?
Me- After my high school i went for my Ordinary National diploma in Business Admin and after that i went for my Industrial training which i finished in 2013. I also went for a professional course in NIM. Since then i ve been assisting my mum in her business as a supervisor.
VO- How many schools did u apply to?
Me- I applied to three schools
VO- Mention them
Me- BGSU, Murray state univ and Arkankas state univ
VO- Why Bowling Green state university?
Me- Yeah i applied to three universities buh i choose BGSU cos of the combination of the course i applied for which suit my career interest and also i choose the university becos Accounting course in BGSU is no #1 in Ohio and also the institution has a stronger relationship with public and private organisations in terms of internship whIch will give the experience i needed not only in class also on the field.
VO-How did u hear about the school?
Me- My uncle who is an alumni of the school gave me a good recommendation abt the school and he is now doong well as a senior lecturer at the university of ibadan. I also went online to make more research about the school and i find it more commendable for the course i applied for
VO- What will u do with the course after graduate?
Me- After graduating i will be coming back home to take up my mum's business cos by that time she won't have enough strength to manage the business.
VO- What kind of business do your mum do?
Me- She is a contractor... She supplies building materials for public and private organisations and she is also one of the distributors of Dangote group of companies.
VO- How many kids do ur mum have?
Me- Three... Am d second and only son.
VO- Who is your sponsor?
Me- My mum.
VO- ok.
I wld appreciate ur advice and corrections. Thanks.

the biggest problem with rehearsed responses is that , you will definitely sound like a 1965 Telefunken amplifier, and this may piss the VO off and prompt what may seemingly be hard questions

baum1:
Guy, I wanted to ask what are you saying, but that would be rude, not okay. I actually logged in because of you.

Contrary to what you believe, there are many non-straight A's students in high school and primary school that went ahead to become the best graduating students at their departments or entire school. I have worked with so many people on Nairaland, I've seen many things, personal experience and from the younger generation..Your first sentence will hardly fit real life data if you put it to test. There are very many above average students at primary/secondary school who went on to achieve GPA's in the neighbourhood of what you termed real first class. On the contrary, there are excellent students at primary/secondary level who went on to make a weak first class, 2:1 or even lower. Your point connotes that those making top, top GPA at uni were the excellent ones in high school. Data doesn't support this. You cannot draw the conclusion you're trying to draw. I've seen so much to accept such conclusion..Perhapsthis post of mine will help you motivate the above average high school students you know that they can be excellent at university and get the best grades...


So, average/below average/above average high school students, don't think you can't come tops in your class at university level. Perhaps you were average in high school because you studied wrongly or didn't have the academic guidance that the more privileged ones had. Many students attended secondary schools where all they do is write notes written on the board and many of these students hardly did problem solving sessions, e.g past questions, exercises etc. They were not exposed enough and tried to read and read what the teacher wrote on the board for them to copy. Of course, such students would hardly achieve the grades that befit their academic gifts, even if they are seriously gifted academically..But such students get to the university and it's another ball game entirely. Some of them were even more gifted than their highly performing age mates in other high schools but didn't have the same exposure....I remember in those days in unilag when some brough 8 A1 during registration, lol. We were dodging our own occasional A, more B's and C's...4 years later, another story was told.

, I can relate to the Unilag story , kai, Unilag is a change of destinies aswear

gspeed360:
You people should not do like this to this short black boy o... Na only me choose University of Houston-Victoria!!! No graduate student! No undergraduate!! No my friend is a student!!! Even the people in Houston no turn up... There is god ooo....

nna there is LinkedIn, FB, Instagram sef, look for them dia and will definitely find Biko

Ezeh23:
Morning to the gurus in the house. I have been a silent observer of the thread trying to look for a way to get good undergraduate gpa and now I think the pepper don rest. I finished with a CGPA of 4.62 in economics and my sister finished with 4.42 CGPA in physics ( not easy). We have done GRE and I got 299 and my sis got 301. Please which school can we apply to for the same course (physics and economics) for a post graduate program that will give us full schorlarship or GA? Thank you.

nwanne, in order not to waste scarce resources in this Buhari Era, I suggest you retake GRE, this time with serious preparation and Probably Gun for a PhD directly( if you feel you can handle it), your course being Economics , you can ensure that one of your recommenders is someone with vast industry experience.