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PoliticsRe: Namibia’s Herero Call For Reparations by EzeUche2(op): 2:00pm On Feb 12, 2011
It is stories like this, that should never be forgotten on the African continent. 75% of a total population was killed by a ruthless German General. The history books do not teach us about this, nor the other atrocities committed against Africans by Europeans. This is not a Victim Mentality, this is remembering history.
PoliticsRe: Fulani Herdsmen Attack Again! by EzeUche2(m): 5:57am On Feb 12, 2011
These Fulani are something else. They remind me of the barbarian Huns that raided their civilized/agrarian neighbors in Europe. Those Middle Belt people better wake up, before the Fulani take their land from them. This is only the beginning. How are you going to allow these attacks go unpunished?
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 5:54am On Feb 12, 2011
The Great Zik was a great politician though. There is no denying that. And he had widespread appeal and was able to speak the major languages. The same cannot be said of the other politicians at that time. He mastered Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa. Maybe I should reassess my view on the man. We Igbos need to give see him for what he really was. Someone who deeply believed in Nigeria. That was his dream to see a united country. Too bad that dream may never come to fruition.

That is why I say Dr. Azikiwe was a idealist while Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello were realist. Maybe that is my contention with Dr. Azikiwe.
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu’s Survival, A Miracle —bianca by EzeUche2(op): 5:48am On Feb 12, 2011
Well you people can dream. Too bad that type of Igbo woman is only for us Igbo men. You all can have the akwuna akwuna, but the ladies are for us.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by EzeUche2(m): 3:40am On Feb 12, 2011
The Fulani are an interesting case study. I'll be lying if I said, I am not amazed in how the rule over a people who are the majority in a region. While there Fulani brethren in other countries are not given this much power.

I wonder if it is, because the other ethnicities located in the Sene-gambia region were Muslims just as long as the Fulbe. The Mandinka, Wolof and Serer are just as zealous as them. Especially the Malinke who are the descendants of the Mali empire.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 3:33am On Feb 12, 2011
houvest:
I am surprised that you have not learnt much about him and you are basing all your judgement of him on his few negative moments you mentioned here viz: the Eyo Ita saga and the Nigeria crossover from Biafra. How could you jugde a man who stood like a colossus in Nigeria for over 7 decades on only two events that probably happened during his weak moments. Every one does have weak moments. I suggest you be more circumspect in your posts about him and other late elder statesmen till you have done more study about them. Your zeal is commendable but sometimes they stretch to overzealousness that earn igbos a bad turn.
Point taken my brother. However, I have to agree with Onlytruth on this issue. He should have stayed on the Biafran side till the bitter end. That is what great Igbo leaders like Dr. Michael Okpara did. You wonder how I can judge a man on two events. These are not just mere events. The Eyo Ita saga created mistrust amongst the Igbo and Ibibio. We needed as many friends in our region as possible.

Anyway, I will do more research on the man. I know a good amount of Dr. Azikiwe, but I have never studied him in detail as I have done others such as Dr. Okpara. I probably know more about Herbert Macaulay than him.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by EzeUche2(m): 1:10am On Feb 12, 2011
Chyz*:
They are weak niggaz, if not for the curse of christianity other tribes in nigeria could have wiped them out.We've proved how weak they are during a fear battle already.
Christianity has pacified us. Our ancestors would not have allowed this abomination to occur on our land. However, the source of Fulani strength is their religious zeal. It is hard to defeat someone who is willing to die in the name of their religion. How do we even counter that?
PoliticsRe: Namibia’s Herero Call For Reparations by EzeUche2(op): 1:08am On Feb 12, 2011
redsun:
D first holocaust in history,nobody thinks anything of it because they are africans,just like d transathlantic slavery
Well I wouldn't say this is the first Holocaust in history, but the sheer ferocity of the atrocities committed against the Herero people is something I cannot even fathom.

ShangoThor:
The reason why Africans will never get reparations is because they are divided, do not collaborate enough and do not back or support each other, in relation to communities or polities.

You will never get any Jews arguing against their entitlement to reparations for the Holocaust.
I don't think this has nothing to do about African unity. The Jews are only an ethnic group. I am pretty sure there is a consensus amongst Herero people that they deserve reparations from Germany.

The reason why they wont get reparations is due to the fact that they are Africans. Point blank. Even if we were united the, Germany would not give this group reparations.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by EzeUche2(m): 1:02am On Feb 12, 2011
The Fulani are one of the most dangerous nomadic African ethnic groups. Second only to the Tuareg. Just look at how they control most of Northern Nigeria. Put this in perspective, they are only a minority in Nigeria, but they hold sway over most of the North and they have produce more Presidents than the Igbo or Yoruba combined.

There is something peculiar about this people. Maybe it is their religious zeal. I don't know, but it would seem they are quick to anger.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:56am On Feb 12, 2011
PhysicsMHD:
I certainly can't say that he was lying because I don't know what he or the Igbo were going through at that time, but my personal opinion was that the bombast and rhetorical heights that he went to, even if for the purpose of uplifting his people in a speech, did not seem to be appropriate to his position as the supposedly unbiased aspiring independence leader of a whole nation. Even if he were seen as the leader of the Igbo by his own people and they expected some special statement from him with regard to the Igbos, he should have used caution and only dashed out a palm full of self-aggrandizing chauvinism like Awolowo did with his comments about the Yorubas, Igbos, and Hausa-Fulani, rather than the bucketful that he poured out in that speech.

I understand that there was a pogrom against Igbos in 1945 among other conflicts, and I see that the British newspapers had already picked up on the hate for Igbos by some groups and was mentioning it as a fact with no regards to the sensitivities of the Igbos, so Zik's viewpoint of victimization could have been justified, but the rest of it and the way he expressed it was kind of off-putting. That much ethnic self-glorification and aggrandizement would earn anybody contempt, I think.


If you can find a speech by Herbert Macaulay, Akintola, Awolowo, or Enahoro, or the Sardauna, or Balewa, which goes to such lengths about their respective ethnic groups, I might change my opinion about the speech, but as of now it just seems excessive too me. Love and praise of one's ethnic group is never a bad thing, but moderation, especially as a public figure, and as a uniting figure, is necessary, in my opinion.
I understand what you are saying, and I can see why a non-Igbo would be shocked by the language that Dr. Azikiwe used in his speech. Even though his words in that speech say something, his actions should be remembered.

Trust me, I am no defender of Dr. Azikiwe. But out of all the leaders that you mentioned except for Herbert Macaulay, Dr. Azikiwe fought on behalf of all ethnicities in Nigeria. His actions clearly illustration that fact. The man was truly a nationalist and this cannot be denied. He believed in "One Nigeria" while the other leaders only focused on their own people.

The Nigerian people in general owe a lot Dr. Azikiwe. He worked on behalf of all Nigerians even at the detriment of his own people. This cannot be denied.

As the saying goes, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:50am On Feb 12, 2011
Andre Uweh:
What do you expect of him?. A man who gave his life for the liberation of Nigeria. Those days there were men of principle.
One thing with Ndigbo is the ability to forgive our own people. Hence in 1978, the mainly Igbo party chose him as their presidential candidate for the 1979 presidential polls. He won in Anioma areas of Bendel state, Igbo areas of Rivers state and the Igbo states of Imo and Anambra.
I expect him to be with his people no matter the odds. That is what I expect of him, since he was a leader. There is no excuse for his actions during the Civil War. Did Dr. Michael Okpara sellout his people? The answer is no. That is why I rank Dr. Michael Okpara above Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe.

Yes, it is in our nature to forgive and I do forgive him as a person. However, I still see him as a traitor. I can forgive, but I can never forget.

But I understand what you are trying to say. That is why I will take time to reevaluate the man. I may view him favorably in the future.
PoliticsRe: Egypt's Race Problem by EzeUche2(op): 12:46am On Feb 12, 2011
I just want to let you all know that Egypt does indeed have a race problem. This is something that is not mentioned often, but before you all start cheering for Egyptians, just know how they view Africans.
PoliticsEgypt's Race Problem by EzeUche2(op): 12:44am On Feb 12, 2011
Egypt's Race Problem

For too many Egyptians, sub-Saharan Africa is a stereotypical exotic land of thick jungles and masses of poor, starving and black-skinned savages.


Because of my looks, my religion and my name, I have frequently been mistaken for Arab during my travels throughout the Middle East. It has been a mentally liberating sensation -- to leave the racial politics of the United States (in reality, this is simply the process of exchanging the ethnic politics of one land for those of another) and not to be regarded as simply a nondescript "black."

Over the years, I have, at various times, been mistaken for many different nationalities. But when I am in the Middle East, strangers most often mistake me for Egyptian. Of course, many African Americans look like Egyptians, right across the color spectrum. I would often scan a crowded street in Cairo and pick out the faces of Egyptians whose visages reminded me of family or friends.

Almost every time I arrived at the Cairo airport, the immigration official would examine my passport closely. Inevitably, the official would ask me a series of questions.

"Is this your name, Sunni Khalid?"

"Yes."

"Are you Egyptian?"

"No."

"Is your father Egyptian?"

"No."

"Is your mother Egyptian?"

"No."

"Where were you born?"

"Detroit."

The official would immediately become suspicious. After all, to his eyes, I looked like an ordinary Egyptian. Finally, another immigration official would show up, repeating the same series of questions. I'd have to repeat my answers a third or fourth time before still more disbelieving immigration officials.

As a last resort, I'd often put my hands up in a boxer's stance and start jumping around, throwing punches in the air. Then I'd turn to them and say, "I'm like Muhammad Ali-Clay." That would always bring smiles.

"Oh, you're a boxer! Do you know Muhammad Ali-Clay?"

"No, I'm like Muhammad Ali-Clay," I would say. "I'm an African-American Muslim."

Quickly, those quizzical looks would be replaced with smiles and handshakes. As they stamped my passport, the officials would tell me, "Welcome home."

But other blacks, whether American or not, have fared much worse than I did; they are never mistaken for Arabs.

Slender, beautiful, blue-black-skinned Southern Sudanese women, who walk around Cairo with their thick, kinky hair woven distinctively in intricate braids, are routinely the targets of verbal public abuse. Carloads of Arab men drive by, hanging out of windows, shouting catcalls, or making loud demands for sexual favors.

Over the years, Egypt has had a particularly difficult time coming to grips with its African identity. Many Egyptians do not consider themselves Africans. Some take offense even to being identified with Africa at all. When speaking to Egyptians who have traveled to countries below the Sahara, nearly all of them speak of going to Africa, or going down to Africa, as if Egypt were separate from the rest of the continent.

More than a few Egyptian women, for example, told me that they disliked the dark-skinned former President Anwar Sadat, ridiculed for years as "Nasser's black poodle." Sadat, whose mother was Sudanese, they insisted, "did not look Egyptian enough."

For too many Egyptians, sub-Saharan Africa is a stereotypical exotic land of thick jungles and masses of poor, starving and black-skinned savages. Ironically, a little more than a generation ago, Cairo was the nerve center for the continent's liberation movement. Today the state-controlled media devote scant attention to the affairs of the continent below the Sahara. Even the occasional visit by a head of state from sub-Saharan Africa is greeted with smiles by snickering Egyptian government officials, especially when African visitors choose to wear their national dress.

This was not always the case. In 1966, following the coup in Ghana, Egypt's first president, Gamal Abdel-Nasser, sent for the Egyptian wife and half-Egyptian children of Ghana's deposed leader, Kwame Nkrumah. Nasser died suddenly in 1970, and much has changed since then.

Sub-Saharan Africans, who have fled as refugees to Egypt from Sudan, Ethiopia and Eritrea, are routinely targeted for periodic security roundups in Cairo. In December 2005, Egyptian riot police brutally attacked a camp of Sudanese refugees in Cairo who were protesting their treatment. In front of TV cameras, at least 28 and as many as 100 refugees were killed, and hundreds of others were injured, arrested, imprisoned or deported. There was little public protest.

My wife, Zeinab, a Kenyan Somali, endured a series of racial indignities during our time in Egypt. She would shop Road Nine, the trendy commercial drag in Maadi that caters mostly to foreigners and wealthy Egyptians. More than once, she would be standing in line at the checkout counter, when an older, fair-skinned Egyptian woman would arrogantly walk from the rear of the line and place her packages on the conveyor belt in front of Zeinab, as if my wife didn't exist. Indignantly, Zeinab would glare at the woman and dump her packages at the back of the line -- or even go so far as to grab the woman by the collar to make her point.

Whenever my wife would come to the airport to pick me up, she'd often have to fend off several Arab men, who assumed that, as a black woman, she was somehow immediately "available" to their desires, whether she was married or not.

One afternoon, as we ate lunch at our favorite restaurant in Cairo's sprawling Khan el-Khalili market, we noticed two scowling Egyptian women staring at us from across the room. I left Zeinab to go to the restroom. As I returned to our table, one of the women who had been glaring at us earlier, an older Egyptian woman, accosted me.

"Don't you know better?" she asked in Arabic. "How dare you bring a woman like that into a place like this?"

As far as this woman was concerned, Zeinab, dressed casually in slacks, her hair in braids, was obviously a "Sudanese prostitute," and I was taken to be her Arab "john." Certainly, in her eyes, no respectable Egyptian man would ever cavort publicly with a black woman.

"Excuse me, ma'am," I replied politely in Arabic, "you've made a mistake. That woman is my wife."

My protests were futile. The woman kept tugging indelicately on my sleeve, castigating me for my "scandalous" public behavior.

Before I left Cairo, I met a group of sub-Saharan African students enrolled at the prestigious al-Azhar University. They told me about the racial harassment they were subjected to on a daily basis on the streets of Cairo by Egyptian Arabs.

"I learned something much different from what I believed," said Bala, a native of northern Nigeria and a graduate student at the American University in Cairo, who lived in Egypt for six years. "I thought [the Arabs] were our brothers in Islam, but they don't bother about that when you're black. , They pretend that you are a brother in Islam, but this is different from what they hold in their hearts and in their minds."

He told me that for many Muslims from sub-Saharan Africa, the spiritual solidarity with Egyptian Muslims was misplaced. "I was coming out of masjid [mosque] in a place called Dar-el-Malik," Bala said. "So we used to say 'Salaam' to one another when we came out of salat [prayer]. There was one child, called Mohamed, and we were used to shaking hands with him. And one day, I came out to shake his hand and he refused. He told me his father told him never to shake hands with a Sudani -- that is black. So he is telling me his father told him he cannot say, 'Salaam,' to any [Africans]."

Through Bala, I met other African students, including some who were studying at al-Azhar University, with the hope of returning to their native lands as imams and religious scholars. Some of the students told me that they experienced racism within al-Azhar to such an extent that they eventually renounced their vows as Muslims.

Some Egyptians, they told me, called Africans hounga (a nonsense word) or asked, "What time is it?" This was apparently done so that the sub-Saharan Africans would look down and be reminded of their dark-skinned wrists, where their watches might be. The jokesters would immediately laugh, but the Africans wouldn't catch on to the joke until much later.

"Egyptians ask you if you live in trees," Bala said. "Or, 'Why are you black?' 'Is your country hot?' So, this is how we know that there is something called racism here. We are Muslims, not because of the Arabs, but Muslims despite what the Arabs have done to us. Even my worst enemy, I would not ask him to come to Egypt for studies, let alone my son."

As Egypt moves forward in a post-Mubarak era, it will have to look at healing many of the wounds that have been opened and have festered over the years. This includes mending ties among Egyptians across religious lines, between the Muslim majority and the Coptic Christian minority, as well as across racial fault lines, with more acceptance of the non-Arab Nubian minority and the significant number of African refugees living and working in Egypt. How these minorities are treated in the future may speak volumes about how far Egyptians have come, or have to go, in treating one another.

Sunni M. Khalid is the managing news editor at WYPR-FM and has reported extensively throughout Africa and the Middle East. He reported from Cairo for three years.

http://www.theroot.com/views/egypt-s-race-problem?page=0,2
PoliticsRe: Namibia’s Herero Call For Reparations by EzeUche2(op): 12:41am On Feb 12, 2011
ShangoThor:
Precursor to "the final Jewish solution" of the Nazis, "the Holocaust" of the WW2. It has been argued that the Germans had good practice! cry
Didn't the Jews get reparations for their suffering at the hands of Germany? Why shouldn't these people get reparations? They truly deserve it. I don't know how a people can be so cruel to another. The Herero people went through a lot in their history.

Hopefully, things are getting better for them.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:36am On Feb 12, 2011
Andre Uweh:
That is why I get so angry when you and some other Igbo people insult him.
The man was a traitor to Biafra. He wasn't with us during our time of need. That is why a good amount of Igbos do not like him. I am sorry, but his actions near the end of the civil war is truly reprehensible.

However, I feel the man was a complex individual, in which I need to study him more. This speech goes against everything I learned about this man. Maybe he does have some redeeming qualities.
PoliticsRe: Namibia’s Herero Call For Reparations by EzeUche2(op): 12:29am On Feb 12, 2011
Most Africans do not know about this extermination campaign of an African tribe that was implemented by the Germans way before World War II ever happened.
PoliticsNamibia’s Herero Call For Reparations by EzeUche2(op): 12:28am On Feb 12, 2011
Namibia’s Herero call for reparations

By CHARLIE TJATINDI 
On the chilly morning of August 12, 1904, thousands of Namibia’s Ovaherero (plural for Herero) woke up to the loud thunder of blazing machine guns. There was also the commotion created by the sounds of women and children running helter-skelter in search of cover from the ambushing German colonial forces.

In the subsequent battle that ensued on the day, mothers watched in awe as their sons fell to the ground one after the other at the hands of the more superior German colonial troops who have infiltrated the Herero camps and launched an attack.

Thousand of Herero who gallantly attempted to stand up to the German onslaught lay dead.

Those who braved the pursuing German attacks were cunningly led into the dry and arid plains of the Omaheke (part of modern day Kalahari Desert) in a cynical ploy where the Germans only left open the way into the desert.

The battle plan was that those who escaped the German bullets should die of thirst. Waterholes for 240 km around the desert were either patrolled or poisoned, and those Herero who came crawling out of the Omaheke, desperate for water, were bayoneted.

Reality march to death

This left the Herero with but one option: to cross the desert into Botswana (then called Bechuanaland) - in reality a march to death. This, indeed, is how the majority of the Herero perished

When it was all over, about 60 per cent to 70 per cent of the total Herero population was dead in what was considered the first genocide of the twentieth century.

More than a century later, as they convened on August 12 to pay homage to the dead,.the descendants of those who lost their lives in the most inhumane way possible have vowed to forgive but never to forget what they describe as atrocities committed by the German colonial forces against their ancestors.

Herero paramount Chief Kuaima Riruako, in an exclusive interview with Africa Review last week, swore never to allow his subjects to forget how their ancestors suffered at the hands of their colonial masters despite the many years that had passed since the events.

“A hundred years is nothing. It’s just one small century and it won’t change how we feel about the crimes against humanity committed against our people,” Chief Riruako said.

He said although he does not encourage hate amongst his people towards the Germans, he admittted that it had been difficult cooperating with people who show no signs of remorse.

“I do not preach hate, but I feel the anger, pain and frustration of my people on days like these when they reflect on past events. All we want is for the Germans to own up to their mistakes and pay reparations to the Ovaherero for what they did to us,” he said.

Calls for apology

The chief has continuously called on the German government to officially apologise to the Herero and consequently pay reparation for “…having robbed them off their dignity and humanity.”

Germany offered its first formal apology for the colonial-era massacre in August 2004 - exactly a century after the genocide occurred.

A German minister, Ms Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul, told a commemorative ceremony that the brutal suppression of the Herero uprising 100 years ago amounted to genocide. However, the Berlin Government has ruled out compensation for victims' descendants.

"We Germans accept our historic and moral responsibility," Ms Wieczorek-Zeul, Germany's Development Aid Minister, told a crowd of some 1,000 at the ceremony in Okakarara, eastern Namibia.

But after the minister's speech, the crowd repeated calls for an apology. "Everything I said in my speech was an apology for crimes committed under German colonial rule," she replied. Ms Wieczorek-Zeul repeated that there would be no compensation, but she promised continued economic aid for Namibia which currently amounts to $14m a year.

Germany argues that international laws to protect civilians were not in force at the time of the conflict. Herero chief Kuaima Riruako said the apology was appreciated but added: "We still have the right to take the German government to court."

In 1985, the United Nations’ Whitaker Report noted Germany’s attempt to exterminate the Herero and Nama peoples of South-West Africa as one of the earliest attempts at genocide in the 20th century.

Concentration camps

The battle of Waterberg, or Ohamakari as the event infamously came to be known, was a result of an earlier onslaught by the Herero on German territory earlier in the same year as they stood up against colonial oppression.

It all started on January 12, 1904. The Herero people under Chief Samuel Maharero rose in rebellion against German occupation. Led by Maharero, they killed about 120 Germans and destroyed their farms. The rebels surrounded Okahandja and cut links to Windhoek, the colonial capital.

Berlin responded fast to this rebellion. Kaiser Wilhelm II dispatched 14,000 troops to the region under the command of Lieutenant-General Lothar von Trotha. Von Trotha was renowned for the ruthless efficiency with which he had helped to suppress the Boxer Rebellion in China in 1900, and to quash resistance to his nation’s occupation of German East Africa (today’s Rwanda, Burundi and Tanzania).

Von Trotha’s written goal was: “I believe that the nation as such should be exterminated. The exercise of violence and crass terrorism and even with gruesomeness was and is my policy. I destroy the African tribes with streams of blood and streams of money. Only following this cleansing can something new emerge, which will remain.”

In August the same year, General Lothar von Trotha overpowered the Herero with modern weapons and war artillery in the Battle of Waterberg.

Due to missionary pressure and a growing shortage of labour in the colony, Von Trotha’s extermination campaign was eventually stopped by Berlin, and the surviving Herero people were put into concentration camps. Put to slavery, hungry and exposed to diseases such as typhoid and smallpox, more Herero men perished in these camps while their women were turned into sex slaves.

The result of this policy was that from 1904 to 1908 the Herero were reduced from a tribe of 80,000 persons to 15,000 starving refugees, something this Namibian tribe is still battling to come to terms with.

http://www.africareview.com/Special%20Reports/-/979182/991416/-/u3obytz/-/index.html

PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:18am On Feb 12, 2011
PhysicsMHD:
I still don't see how Zik could have given that speech and expected to win the Western region. It was so ethnically loaded and so over the top with an ethnic agenda. I was shocked. shocked shocked

I think he really just wanted to bask in the glory of Igbo state assembly admirers praising his masterful oratory in praise of Igbos.
I kind of enjoyed that speech.  grin Was he lying though?

Too bad he still seen as an Igbo traitor. But this speech shows he was a complex individual. Igbo pride.  cool
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu’s Survival, A Miracle —bianca by EzeUche2(op): 12:11am On Feb 12, 2011
This is the greatest gift to the Igbo nation.

The gburu gburu lives!
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:09am On Feb 12, 2011
SEFAGO:
EzeUche could you stop writing in Italics, it kind of looks really gay.
SeFAGo, enjoy the "gay" italics. You should feel comfortable with it.

PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:07am On Feb 12, 2011
fstranger3:
^^^

Spotting sarcasme isnt vos points forts, évidemment

Votre complexe d'infériorité ne connaissent pas liés

Grow quelques balles jeune homme
Vous etes une salope. Et cesser d'utiliser un traducteur. Je peux dire par la façon dont vous ecrivez "bon" francais indique que vous utilisez un traducteur en ligne.

C'est pourquoi votre peuple sont des laches. Et vous etes une femme.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 12:05am On Feb 12, 2011
matazzmagi:
Our Salvation lies with Our Lord, not some alliance with treacherous, hating, perverse and criminal-motivated cultures who see nothing wrong with iniquity; who adjudge evil as good and good as evil, who uphold stealing as okay, lying as intelligence, murdering the innocent as inconsequencial, who exult wickedness and shun righteousness. To embed with this recidivist vile filth will certainly yield untold curses to anyone or people,
Do not mind those people. They are very weak and they are cowards. It is in their history. Only backstabbing/deceit is the path that they travel. There is no honor in their words. The weakest people in all of Africa are them.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 11:58pm On Feb 11, 2011
eku_bear:
Lol, Igbo persecution complex is an old thing indeed, then. That speech is from 1949.
Who do you think coined the term "Jews of Africa?" It was the Igbo themselves. For some odd reason, the Ndigbo have always been likened to the Jews.

And Nnamdi Azikiwe in all of his wisdom was professing the martial prowess of the Igbo people. That is something that cannot be denied. Wrestling is our favorite pastime.

The fact that Azikiwe mentioned the British press as saying "The Most Hated Tribe" is a fact. And it continues to persist to this day.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by EzeUche2(m): 11:05pm On Feb 11, 2011
Abagworo:
It is something worthy of note that Abia State has high population of Northerners.In Umuahia they are highly inter-married and  most of them speak Igbo.In Umuchieze,there are over 20000 northerners concentrated in a small village near Lokpanta.
That is the truth. I remember talking to someone in Aba, and I thought he was Igbo, until he told me that his grandfather came from Kano. I was in a state of shock. The man spoke perfect Igbo. They can definitely blend in Igbo society.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 10:54pm On Feb 11, 2011
fstranger3:
^^^^^

I was not insulting you, i was just pointing out the obvious
Dont tell me i am the first person to point that out to you. other people including Onlytruth, Bkbabe. Tewmuch, PhysicsMHD have said it as well.

I have made you cry enough and I wouldnt want you reporting me to the mods like you always do. So peace out, and continue to wallow in your childish
stupidity. 

When next I am in DC, I will let you so that i can teach you one lesson or the other.
Vous etes un salaud. Non seulement vous etes un salaud, mais vous etes clairement un muet. Vous avez le culot de demander a quelqu'un stupide, meme si je suis superieur a vous dans tous les sens. Comment quelqu'un qui est capable de parler 4 langues diverses etre stupide?

J'ai essaye de vous ignorer, mais vous me suivez comme vous etes des fous homosexuels. Ne faites pas l'erreur de me mettre en colere. Au debut, vous avez ete amusant, mais maintenant vous etes ennuyeux!

Comme le francais est considere comme une langue qui est parlee par les gens instruits, je vous insulte, si l'aide de ce langage. Vous n'etes rien, mais un chien qui mange sa propre fumier! Vous chienne stupide.

Maintenant, arretez de suite un autre homme et grandir!


Venez DC et vous courrez comme une petite fille!
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 10:48pm On Feb 11, 2011
PhysicsMHD:
It wasn't just the civil war, actually. The very creation of regions is what created the schism. The Eastern region was created in 1939, and by 1948 there were already calls for it to be broken up from minorities who would normally have no qualms with Igbos when completely independent of them. The colonialists messed up long established relationships and curtailed local independence just to constrict groups into unions that they would never naturally find themselves in. It's kind of like someone coming and physically tying/binding you to your best friend, so that everything each person does is dependent on the other to achieve any progress. You might love your friend, but you know you would prefer to have your own freedom, even if your friend was so strong he could carry you up mountains without you having to expend even the littlest effort. Why? Simply because it's a fundamental part of human nature to desire freedom and independence to its fullest extent.

As for "no where in Igbo history have we dominated any other group" I think you clearly contradicted yourself there.  undecided I don't know what you think an invasion of Ibibioland is, but it's not exactly a tea party.

And you specifically left out the numerous other groups in the regions besides Hausa, Yoruba, or Bini, who actually weren't dominating anyone but got screwed by the forced unions and became enemies of or antagonistic to people they would ordinarily have no problem with. (see Urhobos, for example)


On an unrelated note, Zik seems to think the Igbos were one of the few groups in Africa to "escape" the conqueror's sword of another African group, when there were actually many African groups that could say the same; read p. 242: http://books.google.com/books?id=Iec7AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA243&lpg=PA243&dq=the+martial+progress+of+the+igbo+nation+zik&source=bl&ots=2KoTKUCHT5&sig=WJ6-nsa5Hr2rRs3g0uVYR_MP2LU&hl=en&ei=v6hVTZ3AEc73gAeG1tynDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false)

grin grin grin grin Zik took rhetoric to such heights that he lost sight of the ground sometimes. You have to respect his oratory skill, but he said some fanciful stuff sometimes.
Well you do have a point with the creation of the different regions. For instance, many Igbo clans were happy to fight each other, let alone worry about other groups. Intra-tribal violence amongst the Igbo were quite common in those days. And that intensified with the advent of the Atlantic Slave trade.

The colonialist really messed up Nigeria, and not just Nigeria, but Africa in general. They turn situations into "us vs. "them," even though we had peaceful coexistence for many generations.

And you also do make another good point of freedom. There were calls prior to decolonization, for the Niger Deltans to have their own region. I forgot what Report was called, but the British rebuffed at this assertion and said that minority rights would be protected in the Constitution.

Technically, I didn't really contradict myself, because some Igbos, do not consider the Aro as true "Igbos," but as a mixture of different groups. But, that is another story. As I have said earlier, the Igbos were happy to fight each other instead of dominating other groups.

Zik is someone that I have a love-hate relationship. Of course he was a master orator, but the man's priorities should have been reevaluated. In all honesty, I think he was an Igbo traitor. And my grandfather on my mother's side (Ibibio) despised him for what he did with Eyo Ita.  
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by EzeUche2(m): 10:38pm On Feb 11, 2011
My question for everyone is why are the Nigerian Fulani like this? I have encountered Fulani from Senegal, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Burkina Faso and they do not seem to act like this. A good friend of mine that I met at my university is a Fulani from Sierra Leone says that her people have a peaceful co-existence with the various Mende & Krio people.

Maybe it is the nomadic Fulani who have kept to the old ways, that need to be trained. I hear the urban Fulani are a totally different people in many aspects.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 10:29pm On Feb 11, 2011
fstranger3:
^^^^

You are extremely stupidd, reason why no one takes you seriously!
Instead of insulting me like the buffoon you are, point of the fallacy and then correct me. If not, I advise you to shut up, because you do not add anything to a discussion. Did I make myself clear? Or do I need to dumb it down for you?
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 10:13pm On Feb 11, 2011
PhysicsMHD:
I'm not at all angry.  grin That's just politics, not anger. wink You ever watch any political shows, any debates between political/history commentators?

In fact, as far as this board goes, that was very polite conversation.

We are all brothers as black Africans, but as far as Nigeria, I think we know that the best truly different groups can really hope for is a distant respect for each other and tolerance. But brotherhood? Nigeria wasn't set up to allow that, really. Only antagonism. Think about it. For 500+ years, Edos, Yorubas, Itsekiris, Urhobos and Ijaws got along just fine and some were even very close. Then the Western region of Nigeria was created and all sorts of ethnic politics and land disputes started and the groups grew apart. You can thank Nigeria for that.  undecided  The same could be said about the Eastern region, even.
Exactly at the bolded statement. Never in the history of the Igbo people have we ever wage war with the Ijaws or any other Eastern groups except for the Aro who invaded Ibibioland to found Arochukwu.

For the most part, the East had cultural diffusion, in which mutual respect reigned supreme. Even when the colonialist were in charge, there was still a mutual respect found in the region. That all changed after the civil war. The modern Nigerian state destroyed a lot of the linkages, between the Igbos and the minority groups. Centuries of bonding was destroyed in one generation.

What makes matters worse, is that the minorities of the region are used as pawns by outside forces to become hostile against the Ndigbo who for the most part have treated them as brothers. I will reiterate that no where in Igbo history have we dominated any other group.

The same cannot be said of the Hausa, Yoruba or Bini.
PoliticsRe: Video Footage Of Aguiyi-ironsi, Nzeogwu, Sardauna’s House, Katsina…. by EzeUche2(m): 10:04pm On Feb 11, 2011
Negro_Ntns:
Ijaws were trouble before the arrival of British.  Igbo was never trouble for anyone prior, and not even for the British.
And who were the Ijaws giving trouble to? From what I know, intra-tribal conflict plagued the various Ijaw communities that inhabited the Niger Delta. Igbos were always trouble for the British.

Maybe you should learn about various conflicts:

Anglo-Aro War
Ekumeku Rebellion
Aba Women's Riot

Maybe you will learn something about Eastern history, before you make ignorant statements.  


Negro_Ntns:
Kingdom?  Igbo Kingdom?  Clans, yes,  . .but kingdom?  Who was the monarch and what dynasty?
I guess you haven't heard of the Nri Kingdom?  undecided When you get more information concerning that ancient Igbo kingdom, them come back to talk to me on that issues. And the Aro Confederacy could be technically classified as a kingdom, in which I hail from this region.

Negro_Ntns:
Who enslaved your people?
My people are the Aro Igbo. We were never enslaved.
PoliticsRe: Tiv/fulani Clash Claims 17 In Benue by EzeUche2(m): 9:38pm On Feb 11, 2011
Well maybe I should clarify and say I haven't heard of any clashes between the Fulani and Igbos in Abia State.

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