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seyibrown: Ever wondered why God gave men only one JT each, and God made only one Eve for Adam? One woman for one man till death do them part - that was what Jesus taught. Anything outside that is greed and se;xu-al incontinence!...

ever wonder about many of the old testament Prophets and
patriarchs with multiple wives,?...Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Esau , Gideon , Saul, David , Solomon, Rehoboam , Elkanah , Ashur, Abijah and Jehoiada, Ahab , Ahasuerus , Ashur , Belshazzar , Benhadad , Caleb, Eliphaz , Ezra, Jehoiachin , Jehoram , Jerahmeel , Joash , Machir , Manasseh , Mered , Nahor , Simeon , and Zedekiah...?

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Neither paedophiles or rapists can ever clamour for rights in a proper civilised society...[/quote]paedophiles? you obviously don't get out much.

ULSHERLAN: Does being an Atheist blinds u from doing what's wrong?..it makes you reason and not get clouded by anyones shadow. Simple reasoning
So @op its wrong

how do you know what is "wrong"?

God listens to all prayers but sometimes the answer is, 'no'.

frosbel: Actually you are right, just didn't want to spoil their Christmas

. they're not having one.

ben4ever: The Navy’s pronouncement that the crashed helicopter was airworthy also lent credence to the sabotage theory...

what else could they say? that it was not airworthy?

frosbel: Lighten up 'ol chaps, its the holiday season.

I was only performing one of my rare episodes of messing about

really? 'coz

frosbel: Propensity to use gutter vocabulary
Atheists : 100%
Theists : 10%


Agreement with the scientific impossibility that we evolved from STUPI.D apes
Atheists:99.99%
Theists:0%

seem very accurate...

Logicboy03: Even christians dont agree with the cut and paste list you posted.

so what?!

you see that's the difference between you and I: I ain't here to impress nobody.

Logicboy03: ...2 reasons why you are an ignorant and cowardly tool.

only two?
anyone who reads this thread can easily find 11 reasons why you're a blind following parrot.

enough, now. get back to the relevant stuff.

Logicboy03: F00028 is a real cowardly tool!


The ignorant muslim posted this thinking it made sense. When he saw that the arguments were beyond his reasoning level, he abandoned the thread.

[size=15pt] wassamatter, Reyginus too much for you ? [/size]

on the contrary I follow this thread quite closely. sometimes I just observe, I learn stuff better that way...but not from you, obviously.

and one thing I have learnt is you're a perfect example of no. 1

Nkonadi: Did u hear of such news?...

yes, we did.

Evil Brain: I skimmed through it. Reading inane cráp like that hurts my brain and I'm not a masochist. Doesn't change the fact that it's complete rubbish.

Imagine saying that the man who improved the telescope and used it to first prove that other planets also have satellites "contributed little to science" because "his achievements were technical". By the same logic, the guy who won the Nobel for designing the antimatter containment system at CERN didn't contribute anything either. He's just a technician.

Let me give you a tip. Whenever you copypaste something from the internet, read it out loud first. If it sounds rétarded, then don't click submit!

I just did. it didn't sound re.t.arded...but your hot air comment above did.

let me give you a tip: if you really feel the need to rebutt something dont just skim it!

Evil Brain: Everything OP said is wrong. If he truly has a degree in a scientific field, then I'd like to know what school. Maybe it's the same one Goodluck Jonathan attended.

A smart secondary school student could refute everything he's written (or more likely copypasted)

they're not my words. you obviously did not even read the whole thing, evil brain. else you would have the link at the end.

turnstoner: Poster's Ph.D. in neuroscience: Big Disgrace!!

spoken like a true blind follower

where there's smoke, there's...

besides, if you think its only Muslims that blame Jews then you have a very very tunnel vision of the world.

As a Biologist with a PhD in Neurosciences, I’m well aware that this is a controversial subject for both scientists and religious people alike. Scientists consider it ridiculous even to entertain the notion that science, a human achievement built on logic and reason, could possibly have anything in common with religious myths.

1. Science Requires Faith
Even highly-specialized scientists will often pursue a certain line of thought, and explore the implications of certain theory while rejecting others, based on nothing more than intuitive preferences, and their sense of what is elegant and right.

Most people who reject the religion they once accepted will claim to have done so in favor of the reasonable, clear-cut answers provided by logic and science. When asked to explain the existence of the universe, they’ll mention the Big Bang and M Theories; when asked to explain the existence of humans, they’ll mention evolution.

When pressed to explain any of the above, however, they soon realize that they actually understand very little. They were exhibiting blind faith – accepting the theories without comprehending them. If you don’t understand something, yet accept it as the truth, then you’re simply a Believer – and like much of science, you’ll find yourself well within the territory of religion.

2. Most of Science is Unfounded
Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Quantum Strings and Ego –all of them sound like plausible stories. But can anyone point out the Ego locus in a dissected brain? Or use the concept of Dark Energy for anything besides helping to explain the expanding universe –another scientific theory? There is no actual proof for any of these theories.

That’s right – we have no proof for the existence of 96% of what science thinks the universe is made of –and yet the theories explaining it (we call them theories to avoid calling them stories) we hold to be true. Why? you ask. Because we have faith

3. Science Will Bend to Accommodate Modern Trends
If you think scientists are immune to the pressure to conform to public opinion –think again. I am not even going to consider the announcements made by scientists under totalitarian regimes (such as racist “conclusions”), because I consider these to be forced aberrations.

Instead I will use the scientific approach to homosexuality. It was included in the list of personality disorders of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder (DSM) up to its 1973 edition. It was then removed – only to be replaced a year later by a close variant, before being removed entirely in 1986. Upon what evidence rested the changing decisions to include or exclude homosexuality among mental disorders? Public sentiment, backed by convenient “empirical evidence”, played a leading role.

4. Science is Based on Established Dogmas
Ever wonder how for centuries, the best doctors could insist on blood-letting as a cure – without ever noticing that their patients did worse? The answer: belief in blood-letting was part of the scientific dogma at the time.

Anything contradicting this dogma is simply rejected and ignored, or ridiculed for as long as possible. Science thus has the trappings of a full blown religion.

5. Science Has Its Own Priesthood
Newton, Darwin and Einstein serve as the holy trinity of western science. And below these are the elders: Watson, Crick, Dawkins, Hawking, Dennet, Chomsky, Penrose and Sagan. And then you have the High Priests: the Nobel Prize winners, the popular writers and the media celebrities.

Their opinions are received as sermons, and their statements are quoted like sacred texts. Ordinary people are ridiculed, if they doubt the interpretations of this priesthood. Even for scientists, questioning a member of a higher tier is done only at your own risk. After all, all scientific work (from papers to grant applications) is peer reviewed, remember?

6. Science Has Its Own Code of Ethics
There are state laws, and there are moral laws. And now, according to science, there are “laws of scientific conduct”. All kinds of atrocities are committed in the name of science – take a doctor, for example, who has to give placebo pills to a number of his patients in a drug trial, knowing that they will suffer or die much sooner than if they had received proper treatment.

But scientific advancement almost always claims precedence over personal morality. And – unless you’re a zealot yourself – its ethics will clash with your personal code of conduct.

7. Science Makes up Stories to Explain Our Origins
The Sumerians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Chinese, the Aztecs – all of them had creation myths, probably invented around a fire. All of them took their creation myths seriously. Now, of course, we have science to explain our origins.

You know what its latest version of this story is? In the beginning, there were giant membranes. These membranes touched each other, triggering something called the “Big Bang”. Sure.

8. Science Reveres Its Own Saints
The ranks of science martyrdom may be thin, yet its members are revered as far greater scientists they actually were. Take Galileo Galilei, for example, the patron saint of all scientists persecuted by religious orders. He actually contributed very little to science: most of his achievements were technical, such as tampering with telescopes. Heliocentricity was known since the 4th century BC.

9. It Casts Out Heretics and Persecutes all Other Religions
Science, like God in the Old Testament, behaves jealously against any other religion. So science will say to its followers: “You shall have no other gods before me”.

If you have any doubts, try asking an audience at a scientific convention to join you in a prayer. From that moment on you’ll be called a theist-scientist. A heretic. A miasma. An abomination. Just look up how Kurt Gödel was viewed at Princeton after circulating his ontological proof of God.

10. Science Thinks Humans are Special
It is understandable that religion might place man in the center of the universe –but for science to do so is inexcusable. However, a great number of astrophysicists and cosmologists are eager to talk about how the universe conforms to the “anthropic principle”.

There is absolutely no scientific reason why human understanding – above that of slugs, dolphins and monkeys – should be wide enough to encompass the universe. Anthropocentrism – the assumption that humans take center-stage in the universe – is rife in the sciences, as it is in religion.

http://listverse.com/2012/12/15/top-10-reasons-science-is-another-religion/

perilioustime: No one said Jesus is God, JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD...

well, the biblical God has other sons:
Adam- Luke 3 : 38
David- psalms 2:7
Israel- Exodus 4 : 22
Solomon- 2 Samuel 7 : 13 - 14
Ephraim- Jeremiah 31 : 9

hey! backup!

majour: considering the fact that religion has done more harm than good to man...

how is this a fact?

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[quote author=T-smooth]Poster where is the post?[/quote]http://hispanicmuslims.com/humor/images/lalo3.jpg

highyo: BUT allah NEVER FORGIVE FOR HE LACK MERCY

God's forgiveness and mercy:

... Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an, 24:22)
also:
Qur’an, 42:40
Qur’an, 64: 14
Qur’an, 7: 199

highyo: xtain
God is love, love your neighbor like your self

then why does Jesus boast that he has come to bring FIRE and DIVISION on earth? (LUKE 49-51)

why does Jesus say those who follow him must HATE their fathers, HATE mothers, HATE wives and children! -Luke 14:26

How can you love your neighbor but HATE the people closest to you?

highyo: xtain
thou shall not kill

Biblical scholar Raymond Schwager has found:
100 passages where God expressly commands others to KILL people, and several stories where God irrationally KILLS or tries to KILL for no apparent reason.
-Walter Wink, "The Powers That Be: Theology for a New Millennium," Galilee Doubleday, (1998), Pages 84 & 85.

highyo: xtain
God does not want the death of a sinner but to repent

death to followers of other religions - (Exodus 22:20)

just one person worships another god? –
DEATH TO ENTIRE TOWN (Deuteronomy
13:13-19)

don't listen to priests? – DEATH
(Deuteronomy 17:12)

gay? – DEATH (Leviticus 20:13)

do a little astrology? – DEATH (Leviticus
20:27)

fool around? – DEATH (Leviticus 20:10)

priest’s daughter fool around? –DEATH
(Leviticus 21:9)

kill nonbelievers - : (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

fake pastors? – DEATH (Zechariah 13:3 )

not a virgin on your wedding night? –
DEATH (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

blasphemy? – DEATH (Leviticus 24:10-16)

disrespectful children – DEATH (2 Kings
2:23-24)

@logicboy
[quote author=Mr_Anony]Yes I must, if not you will bury us in nonsense and applaud yourself for it...[/quote]ouch!

Ptolomeus: Absolutely.
Historically, Africa is not Christian or Islamic.
These religions have been imposed by the conquerors.
Undoubtedly, it is preferable to be an atheist, to follow the religion of the slavers.

which Muslim foreign power conquered/colonised nigeria.?

" Islam religion is an ANTI-Christ and a bunch of lies Religion, because they deny Jesus is the Christ"

but the Qur'an states very clearly Jesus is the Christ!

[quote author=Atheist:-D]...Statistics show that some of the worst societies are the most religious.

Religion does not positively impact a society.

Also a thumbs up to wiegraf.[/quote]pure bull!

• Even in China an officially non-religious state. A recent study by Paul Badham and Xinzhong Yao for the Ian Ramsey Centre at Oxford University, reported that a majority of those felt religious experiences had a positive effect on their lives.

• In 2000, Political Scientist and Professor
Robert Putnam surveyed 200 volunteer organisations and it showed that there was a
positive correlation between religiosity and
membership of volunteer organisations.

• The Index of Global Philanthropy, 2007 states:
“Religious people are more charitable than non-religious not only in giving to their own congregations, but also – regardless of income, region, social class, and other demographic variables – significantly more charitable in their secular donations and informal giving.”

• In 2002 Bryan Johnson and colleagues of the University of Pennsylvania Centre for Research on Religion and Urban Civil Society reviewed 498 studies that had been published in peer reviewed journals. They concluded that a large majority of studies showed a positive correlation between religious commitment and higher levels
of perceived well-being and self esteem, and
lower levels of hypertension, depression and
criminal delinquency.

kunlekunle: America runs military economy

"McDonald's cannot flourish without
McDonnell Douglas... "

Q 1: Why are you so obsessed with the Taliban? Why are you so obsessed with
Afghanistan? Why are you so obsessed with
Pakistan? Why are you so obsessed with
controlling the whole wide world?

Q 2: You are 315 million, a mere 4.5 percent of the world population, but why are you bent upon controlling the lives of the other seven
billion?

Q 3: Remember, Iraq’s ‘weapons of mass
destruction’? As a consequence, for the period 2003-2011, there have been”2.7 million post- invasion war-related deaths.” Why do you create excuses to go to war?

Q 4: Remember, Mohamed Atta, Waleed al-
Shehri, Wail al-Sehri, Abdulaziz al-Omari, Satam al-Sugami, Marwan al-Shehhi, Fayez
Banihammad, Mohand al-Shehri, Hamza al-
Ghamdi, Ahmed al-Ghamdi, Hani Hanjour,
Khalid al-Mihdhar, Majed Moged, Nawaf al-
Hazmi, Salem al-Hazmi, Ziad Jarrah, Ahmed al- Haznawi, Ahmed al-Nami and Saeed al-Ghamdi?

A total of 19 hijackers, of which 15 were Saudi nationals, others from Egypt and the UAE – none from Afghanistan. But, “as of October 2011, 5.6 million war-related deaths” in Afghanistan.

Q 5: Uncle, why is it that wherever you go death and destruction follows? Before Iraq and before Afghanistan there was the Persian Gulf War, the Vietnam War and the Korean War. Over the past 20 years, the US armed forces have been deployed in Bosnia, Liberia, Albania, Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, Somalia and Libya. Imagine 10 countries over a period of 20 years. Why do you have to begin a new deployment in foreign lands every two years?

Q 6: President Bush (Sr), in his four-year tenure, invaded Panama and ordered Operation Desert Storm. President Clinton bombed at least four countries in his eight-year tenure – Serbia, cruise missiles into Afghanistan, a bombing campaign over Iraq and another one over Bosnia. President Bush (Jr), in his eight-year tenure, started both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. Bush’s drones attacked both Pakistan and Yemen. In 2007, Bush’s AC-130 gunship also attacked Somalia. Why do you have to start a new war every two years?

Q 7: President Obama doubled and then re-
doubled drone attacks into Pakistan and sent the same drones into at least five other countries, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and Libya. President Obama, in his four years, bombed Libya in America’s Operation Odyssey Dawn and ordered Navy SEALs into Abbottabad. O’ America, why do you have to start a new war every other year?

Q 8: Uncle, you assist, comfort and protect
corrupt, repressive and dictatorial regimes,
especially in the Muslim world. And then you
ask, “Why do they hate us?”

Q 9: Imagine, nearly 50 million Americans live in poverty. Why then has Uncle Sam spent $3,000,000,000,000 on wars in Iraq,
Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Q 10: Uncle, why can’t you live in peace with
the rest of the world?

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-140107-10-questions-for-Uncle-Sam

"So when the Long Count calendar hits its
limit on the 23rd (or 21st) of December four
years from now, will that be it – the end of
everything? There's no reason to think so, or
to think the Mayans thought so. Just picture a
very large and complex odometer flipping
over to a long line of zeros and continuing
on from there."

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2283/does-the-mayan-calendar-predict-the-end-of-the-world-in-2012