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@OLAADEGBU WHERE IS HE?
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Bidam: 1sam 2:8 never said the earth was flat which makes u a liar..let me quote it for u and others to see...This is what I said the bible teaches: The earth is a- flat, b- has four corners, and c- is standing on pillars: 1 Samuel 2:8 -PILLARS Isaiah 11:12 -FOUR CORNERS Daniel 4:10-11- FLAT EARTH Genesis1:16 & Isaiah 13:10 both say that the moon is a source of light. It is not. besides if the moon was even a lesser sun the astronauts couldnt land on it. Bidam: ..its not only ruminants that chew cud..Really? |
Bidam: lol..mayb u have the wrong bible..you should have quoted the verse of scripture that says that to prove ur point..this is what d bible says:"God is hanging the earth upon nothing"(job26:7) that was about 1473 B.C...The earth is flat, has four corners, is standing on pillars that prevent it from shaking, and is immovable: 1 Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, Job 38:4, Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1, Psalm 93:1, Daniel 4:10-11 the moon is a light source: In Genesis 1:16, Isaiah 13:10 but the moon doesnt produce light ![]() the rabbit is a rumminant: Leviticus 11:5-6 the rabbit is a lagomorph and doesnt chew the cud ![]() |
Bidam: yeah..dats the problem..u believe wat u ave been told so as to keep the status quo..but i tell u the truth..once u receive the Holy Spirit..u will begin to question the authenticity of ur quran.I believe God gave us brains for a reason. little wonder He, in the Quran, tells us to think, ponder, reflect, investigate, etc ...so am thinking, if your bible is indeed from Him why would it say e.g this world is flat and standing on pillars? is this not confusion? |
you are being deliberate vague and I believe my questions were straight forward. :-/ Bidam: yeah..just like mohammed got revelations in a cave..mine was a revelation from the scriptures..well, I can believe the prophet, Muhammad (pbuh), because he has something to show for it. his revelations are perfectly preserved, and have stood the test of time (1400yrs), internally consistent, historically accurate, and even 21st century knowledge has still not disproven. what have you got? |
enilove: I am not a liar.The bible says we should seek peace with all men.I would not call you a liar even if you delibrately lie...but you see nothing wrong in slandering a man that muslims revere. that's seeking peace? ![]() when God laid the final injunction limiting the number of wives to 4, the Prophet couldn't divorce the rest because if the did no one else would marry them. God had declared them as mothers of the believers and we dont marry our mothers. F00028: if their 'personal wish' was dangerous to them and against God's design why didn't He caution them? |
can someone please tell me in a clear, concise, emotionless way what is wrong with marrying at 15? |
enilove: You can not see it written in the bible where God gave the instruction to marry more than one wife.if their 'personal wish' was dangerous to them and against God's design why didn't He caution them? they were prophets for heaven's sake! enilove: muhammed says men can marry more than one wife if the man would love them equally.liar, liar! God's last prophet never said that. |
Bidam: no no..the Son Of God..it was an unmistakable encounter sir! He told me all i ever did.well if you believe in the supernatural then you must know there are other forces that can that do that. what did he look alike? |
Bidam: i was a muslim until i had an encounter with Jesus...i know muslims that told me about their experiences when they saw Jesus...arguments won't take us anywhere...what u really need is just one encounter..dats all..do u believe in the supernatural?how did you know it was Jesus, the son of Mary you encountered. its important because your salvation hinges upon it, Bidam. |
Bidam: you sound matured and intelligent..are u a muslim?yes |
Manmustwac, Jesoul, thanks for your time . |
conjecture! conjecture!! conjecture!!! if your pagan forefathers were so knowledgeable where is the proof they knew the moons light was merely reflective? how did he know the earth was a spehere? did he travel the world too? how did he know the universe was expanding? or did your pagan forefathers already have the hubble telescope 1400 years ago? the holy Prophet Muhammad was never an idolater for none ever accused him of abandoning your pagan gods that he once served. you really got nothing. |
this was all: Bidam: wrong...allah is an arabic word for a moon god. Now u said alah is an aramaic word u may be right or wrong since there is a little diffrence between the aramaic and arabic tongue...but we know our God name as YHWH through archeological and linguistic discoveries.if Allah/Alah= moon god then Jesus was calling to a false god on the cross. YHWH: Yahweh-Elohim's Historical Evolution (Pre-Biblical), Walter Reinhold Warttig Mattfeld y de la Torre, M.A. Ed. |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]isnt it obvious? he obviously changed some things to suit his own ideas. remember, islam was 600 yrs after xtianity. so there was more scienific progress by then in 600 yrs.[/quote]how could he have known e.g the moon didn't produce light? 1400 years ago the Arabs were not space explorers [quote author=PAGAN 9JA]also where are these things mentioned?[/quote]-The earth is flat, has four corners, is standing on pillars that prevent it from shaking, and is immovable. ( 1 Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, Job 38:4, Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11, Psalm 93:1-3, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, 1 Chronicles 16:30, Matthew 4:8 ) -Leviticus 11:6 "The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you." - Genesis 1:16 , GOD Almighty created two lamps - John 12:24 dead seed does produce new seeds. - . James 5:3 gold and silver do rust. |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]this is not speculation. this is fact. i just showed you proof that they met up. anyways you cant expect me as a Pagan, to write down all the stuff in the quraan. i talk abotu biblical figures and stories associated with them, like moses, abraham, noah,adam,eve,. . etc. etc. These concepts did not exist in Pre-islamic Pagan Arabia. they have been clearly plagarized.[/quote]that fact that they met dont mean nuthin! at least not what you want it to mean. if he got all his knowledge from christian monks how did he know to leave stuff out? like: the earth is flat and has pillars, the rabbit is a ruminant, dead seeds produce new seeds, the moon produces light, gold and silver rust, and so on |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]it works perfectly well. i just tried it. if he had met this monk after starting islam, then it would have raised doubts. however this was before he started islam, when he was still a Pagan, in the land of al Sham. so therefore this raises some serious questions and it is quite obvious, really. also this is a christian monk, not a commoner. so he mustve obviously expounded his religious knowledge to him. what mess? even your book is in a mess. more than half the stuff is carbon compy of the bible![/quote]pure speculation. thats all you got to go on? show me some of the carbon copies.
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hey jesoul, manmustwac, how come my post (posts no. 136) is hidden and Bidams post saying Allah is a moon god is not ? |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]heres your proof: http://syedbasit..com/2007/04/holy-prophet-muhammads-journey-to-syria.html[/quote]the link to the full article at doesn't work. let me have it in your own words how meeting a christian monk proves the Qur'an was copied. if the christians had all that info how come their book is the mess it is? |
Bidam: wrong...allah is an arabic word for a moon god. Now u said alah is an aramaic word u may be right or wrong since there is a little diffrence between the aramaic and arabic tongue...but we know our God name as YHWH through archeological and linguistic discoveries. if Allah/Alah = moon god, then Jesus was calling on a false god on the cross.YHWH: Yahweh- Elohim's Historical Evolution (Pre-Biblical); Walter Reinhold Warttig Mattfeld y de la Torre, M.A. Ed. http://www.bibleorigins.net YahwehYawUgarit.html |
Bidam: read or heard? Pls can you quote a verse of scripture where Jesus said allah?the Aramaic word for God is "Alah" according to the Lexicon offered at http: www.peshitta.org/ . image: W.E. Vine, Merrill F. Unger, William White Jr., Vine's Complete Exposition Dictionary , Thomas Nelson Publishers, Nashville, TN, 1996
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Stalwert: ^am smiling like the godfather. |
For Best Toilet Health: Squat By Dr. Mercola Is the Western toilet in part responsible for problems like hemorrhoids, constipation, IBD (Inflammatory Bowel Disease), appendicitis, and even heart attacks? If you examine the data, there is a great deal of evidence this is true. The modern toilet has required us to change the position we use to evacuate our bowels, which changes the anatomy of… well, a poop, to put it bluntly. Infants instinctively squat to defecate, as does the majority of the world's population. But somehow the West was convinced that sitting is more civilized. Sitting on the modern Thomas Crapper-style sit-down toilet is designed to place your knees at a 90-degree angle to your abdomen. However, the time-honored natural squat position places the knees much closer to your torso, and this position actually changes the spacial relationships of your intestinal organs and musculature, optimizing the forces involved in defecation. Sitting to evacuate your bowel requires you to apply additional force (straining), which has some unwanted biological effects, including a temporary disruption in cardiac flow... more: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/03/toilet-squatting-position.aspx |
onetrack: The prophet of Allah said:that's the same as disrespecting your own mama?! really ? vulgar abuse can be justified. it's sometimes the only way to get through to some people especially them haughty bast.ards. what's your excuse for disrespecting your own mama? |
[quote author=Bélla3]huh? I was never with him.[/quote]good for you. 'cos the One True God knows your true nature and will not demand you act against it nor will He ever place a burden upon you that you cannot bear. peace. |
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onetrack: I can also write a book telling people to think, reason, reflect, and investigate, just as long as in the end they accept my book as the ultimate perfect truth. Even if I say the sun sets in a mud puddle.if you tell them to do that, they'll, in the end, come to see your book for what it really is. |
[quote author=Bélla3]Tell me about it such gender baised god![/quote]then you better leave that one for One that accepts you as you are |
frosbel: better to 'murder' one person for the sins of all mankind, than to kill hundreds of thousands for the cause of one blood thirsty deity !!!hehehe you've been reading deuteronomy again |
Stalwert: Your condition is pitiable, the bible shows Jesus acts not consistent with judaism, but wait you savior practiced Judaism and you practice Christianity, aren't you being a disobedient follower?or not a follower at all. |
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