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Niflheim:
@Fadman4real,

Ha ha ha ha ha!!! I went to that stupid and retarded website that you recommended to me!!! At first, I thought that you were being paid to mislead yourself(and your fellow adherents of the book of talking donkeys), but now I understand. The owner of the website does not even know what Evolution is about!!! No wonder I gave you the simplest example of rats with webbed feet, and you still did not get it.

1.The nincompoop narrator claimed that bacteria remain bacteria and fruit flies remain fruit flies!!! What a pity!!! Evolution is like a TREE WITH MANY BRANCHES and not a straight line, so the bacteria will evolve to a different kind of bacteria(on the bacteria branch), while the fruit fly will evolve to a different kind of fruit fly(on the fruit fly branch). The fruit flies can never turn to eagles and Evolution never claimed they will!!!

2.You recommended Google to me, and yet you went to a website run by a slowpoke to get your info on Evolution? He has his own personal definition of Evolution on his website!!!

3.So all this while you have been attempting to debate evolution, you never even knew what it means, and your holy spirit could not even correct you? Chai!!! Lol!!! ..

4.This is a case of a blind-folded man(you) being led by another blind-folded man......................YOU HAVE BOTH FALLEN INSIDE THE PIT OF PUBLIC RIDICULE!!!

Your ignorance is outstanding, it shows that you dont even know what evolution is, you just decided to follow it cause it allows you to live the life you want to live without fear of judgement.

I would help you by googling "microevolution and macroevolution articles in science" to help broaden your understanding, and i would advice you to try to read a book once in a while as this would improve your understanding a lot.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evoscales_01

http://atheism.about.com/od/evolutionexplained/a/micro_macro.htm Let us see if you would call your fellow atheists slowpoke.

Due to my arguements with @CoolUsername on the account of the flood and noah's arc I decided to create this thread.

Firstly I would talk about the evidence of the flood.

According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path. This theory made Ballard and his team to go and research about that particular theory.
Four hundred feet below the surface, they unearthed an ancient shoreline, proof to Ballard that a catastrophic event did happen in the Black Sea. By carbon dating shells found along the shoreline, Ballard said he believes they have established a timeline for that catastrophic event, which he estimates happened around 5,000 BC. Some experts believe this was around the time when Noah's flood could have occurred.

Six evidences for the Genesis Flood
1. Fossils of sea creatures all above sea level.
For example we find marine fossils above the grand canyon as high as 6000-7000 feet above sea level. These marine fossils are also found on himalayas, the world's highest mountains. There is only one explanation for this the ocean mountains at some point in the past flooded all over the continents.
2. The world is a graveyard
Countless billions of plants and animals are found in extensive graveyards where they had to be buried rapidly on a wide scale for such to have been possible. For example, billions of straight-shelled, chambered nautiloids are found fossilized with other marine creatures in a 7 foot (2 m) thick layer within the Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon. To form such a vast fossil graveyard required 24 cubic miles (100 km3) of lime sand and silt, flowing in a thick, soup-like slurry at more than 16 feet (5 m) per second (more than 11 mph [18 km/h]) to catastrophically overwhelm and bury this huge, living population of nautiloids.
3. Rapidly Deposited Sediment Layers Spread Across Vast Areas
On every continent are found layers of sedimentary rocks over vast areas. Many of these sediment layers can be traced all the way across continents, and even between continents. Furthermore, when geologists look closely at these rocks, they find evidence that the sediments were deposited rapidly.
Chalk beds can be traced westward across England and appear again in Northern Ireland. In the opposite direction, these same chalk beds can be traced across France, the Netherlands, Germany, Poland, southern Scandinavia, and other parts of Europe to Turkey, then to Israel and Egypt in the Middle East, and even as far as Kazakhstan.
Consider another feature—coal beds. In the northern hemisphere, the Upper Carboniferous (Pennsylvanian) coal beds of the eastern and Midwest USA are the same coal beds, with the same plant fossils, as those in Britain and Europe. They stretch halfway around the globe, from Texas to the Donetz Basin north of the Caspian Sea in the former USSR. In the southern hemisphere, the same Permian coal beds are found in Australia, Antarctica, India, South Africa, and even South America! These beds share the same kind of plant fossils across the region (but they are different from those in the Pennsylvanian coal beds).
4. Sand Transported Cross Country
It logically follows that, when the Flood waters swept over the continents and rapidly deposited sediment layers across vast areas, these sediments had to have been transported long distances. In other words, the sediments in the strata had to come from distant sources. And that’s exactly the evidence we find.
Coconino Sandstone in the Grand Canyon. It has an average thickness of 315 feet (96 m), covers an area of at least 200,000 square miles (518,000 km2), and thus contains at least 10,000 cubic miles (41,700 km3) of sand.
There are other examples of this most notably the Novajo sandstone of southern Utah. Within this sandstone, we find grains of the mineral zircon, which is relatively easy to trace to its source because zircon usually contains radioactive uranium. By “dating” these zircon grains, using the uranium-lead (U-Pb) radioactive method, it has been postulated that the sand grains in the Navajo Sandstone came from the Appalachians of Pennsylvania and New York, and from former mountains further north in Canada. If this is true, the sand grains were transported at least 1,800 miles (3000 km) right across North America.
5. No Slow and Gradual Erosion
According to the theory of the formation of rocks and mountains, the view is that slow and gradual processes explain the thick, fossil-bearing sedimentary rock layers all over the earth. We would expect to find many examples of weathering and erosion after successive layers were deposited. The boundaries between many sedimentary strata should be broken by lots of topographic relief with weathered surfaces.
If the Genesis Flood caused the fossil-bearing geologic record, then we would only expect evidence of rapid or no erosion at the boundaries between sedimentary strata.
So what do we find, At the boundaries between some sedimentary layers we find evidence of only rapid erosion. In most other cases, the boundaries are flat, featureless, and knife-edge, with absolutely no evidence of any erosion, which is consistent with no long periods of elapsed time, as would be expected during the global, cataclysmic Genesis Flood.
6. Rock Layers Folded, Not Fractured
How could a series of sedimentary layers fold without fracturing? The only way is for all the sedimentary layers to be laid down in rapid succession and then be folded while still soft and pliable.
Uniformitarian (long-age) geologists believe that these sedimentary layers were deposited and deformed over the past 500 million years. If it really did take millions of years, then individual sediment layers would have been deposited slowly and the sequences would have been laid down sporadically. In contrast, if the global cataclysmic Genesis Flood deposited all these strata in a little more than a year, then the individual layers would have been deposited in rapid succession, one on top of the other.
The 4,500-foot sequence of sedimentary layers in the walls of the Grand Canyon stands well above today’s sea level. Earth movements in the past pushed up this sedimentary sequence to form the Kaibab Plateau. However, the eastern portion of the sequence (in the eastern Grand Canyon and Marble Canyon areas in northern Arizona) was not pushed up as much and is about 2,500 feet (762 m) lower than the height of the Kaibab Plateau. The boundary between the Kaibab Plateau and the less uplifted eastern canyons is marked by a large step-like fold, called the East Kaibab Monocline.
It’s possible to see these folded sedimentary layers in several side canyons. For example, the folded Tapeats Sandstone can be seen in Carbon Canyon. Notice that these sandstone layers were bent 90° (a right angle), yet the rock was not fractured or broken at the hinge of the fold. Similarly, the folded Muav and Redwall Limestone layers can be seen along nearby Kwagunt Creek. The folding of these limestones did not cause them to fracture and break, either, as would be expected with ancient brittle rocks. The obvious conclusion is that these sandstone and limestone layers were all folded and bent while the sediments were still soft and pliable, very soon after they were deposited.
Herein lies an insurmountable dilemma for uniformitarian geologists. They maintain that the Tapeats Sandstone and Muav Limestone were deposited 500–520 million years ago3; the Redwall Limestone, 330–340 million years ago; then the Kaibab Limestone at the top of the sequence, 260 million years ago.5 Lastly, the Kaibab Plateau was uplifted (about 60 million years ago), causing the folding.6 That’s a time span of about 440 million years between the first deposit and the folding. How could the Tapeats Sandstone and Muav Limestone still be soft and pliable, as though they had just been deposited? Wouldn’t they fracture and shatter if folded 440 million years after deposition?

CoolUsername:
It's possible to say that absence of evidence isn't necessarily the same as evidence of absence. That's true, but absence of evidence also isn't evidence of presence. How can you prove that a god created everything? Right now, we don't have the technology to prove it. But we can say, quite conclusively that the Judeo-christian creation myth just doesn't hold up unless we deny empirical evidence. As a person of intellectual integrity, I won't do that.

There is one question i keep asking myself, have you ever seen an artistic masterpiece without an artist? That in itself is not possible, looking at the world today, it is extremely perfect without a single flaw. The plants get their energy from the sun, the animals feed on the plants, they die and the plants draw their nuitrients from the dead animals, the cycle continues like that.
For all these to happen by luck, it has to be some extreme luck in place, every single aspect of our body and that of the animals are all designed for a specific purpose and are perfect in the order of its design. Evolutionists believe we came to existence by luck but even luck has a limit, evolution can tell you that we developed from an ape like animal, etc. but when biologists and scientists dig deeper into the structure of animals and human kind they find a very complex structure that would require the most complex brain in the world for it to be.
The DNA which was thought of as junk is becoming the center piece of biology right now. The DNA has been found to contain lots and lots of information as big as a computer and works just like a computer, imagine a particle 100 times smaller than the smallest transistor in the world functioning as a small computer.
Yet evolutionists like you say that there is no God and we just came to be by some mistake.
Another against evolution is evolutionists say that we evolved from simple organisms like bacteria then why is it that bacteria and those simple organisms are still alive today and homo habilis, homo erectus are not alive today? I am supposed to believe that it was luck too, there are just too many holes in the evolution theory it makes it look like a really big bag of lucky events.
As usual the response would be you dont understand evolution.
Think again

This is what I was saying, the implications of what you're saying is that somehow, between 2,000
and 50,000 kinds of animals became 6 million species in 4,000 years. Tell me, how is that demonstrably possible? Show me your evidence. If you can't do this, then don't argue against the prevailing theory.

A growing number of scientists believe that geological evidence indicates our world has undergone a catastrophic flood. now a brief history of Noah's arc.

It was 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high according to hisorians.
The total available floor space on the arc would have been 100,000 square feet, which would be more floor space than in 20 standard-sized basketball courts.
I would advice you to read Noah’s Ark: A Feasibility Study by John Woodmorappe to explain it more to you.

Also, what does creating life have to do with this, man only gained intellect about 10,000 years ago. Besides, to replicate something you need to fully understand it, maybe you creationists should stop standing in the way of science.

According to evolution scientists, it was believed that chemicals randomly organized themselves together and spark live was created. In the past 10,000 years science has achieved a lot, very soon we would have self driving cars, we have gone to the moon etc. Evolution despite its acclaimed evidence and scientific proof cannot do the most basic thing that we are supposed to believe was created by nothing. Evolution still keeps holding to the observations of Charles Darwin and has not gone beyond mere observations and archeological evidence, the simplest thing you claim was done by luck, you simply cant recreate the evidence.

This trend is becoming worrisome

CoolUsername:
So God created the stars with and sped up light so they could reach us within a day then inexplicable reduced the speed of light in such a way that would throw off the timeline of the biblical creation?

Sounds legit! /s

You atheists see God as one of you and not a supreme being, he created the world so he can shape it how he feels like. It is just like me a programmer writes a code and in a particular instance makes 2+1 = 100. Is that impossible after all it is my code. God has done many miracles and simply because science can't explain it, then He doesn't exist. Think.

So basically, those animals underwent speciation then evolved their diverse traits in 4,000 years?

In other words, for example the hippopotamus and the giraffe are from the same genus (fact). So you mean to tell me that you believe that they both split from a common ancestor and evolved the different traits (while most of the transitional species went extinct) in just 4,000 years? But you don't believe that man and ape underwent the same process over the course millions of years even with well-dated fossil evidence.

I said not all animals, you and I do not know the ones that splitted and I think it was only micro evolution that happened not the bogus macro evolution that has no root except in fiction.

It doesn't take a Ph.D to see that the continents fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.
There is evidence of tectonic activity breaking off land masses from each other, dude. For you to deny continental drift because you can't fit kangaroos into your creation myth must mean that you aren't a man of science.

I don't know much about continental drift, would read it up when am less busy. The question of the kangaroo is funny at best, the Bible clearly says that God blessed the animals and asked them to multiply and fill the earth. I cannot possibly go back in time to view how the kangaroos came to Australia from middle East. The same with evolutionarists, you are yet to create a simple life after understanding all the chemicals involved despite our technological advancements. But you want us to believe that we and apes are cousins/brothers when we are absolutely different in terms of intelligence and emotions.

Niflheim:
@fadman4real,
1.What do you mean that webbed feet appearing on feet(which can be seen with ordinary eyes), is micro-evolution?........................Are these the kind of stuff you want to be spreading on Nairaland?

http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
Don't worry I helped you Google it, you can see that there are two types of evolution; micro and macro.

2.What has a bowl of garri got to do with Evolution? I just explained to the OP, how dishonest it was for her to publish an article about how life began and connecting it with Evolution? Tomorrow, you will complain when atheists insist that christians are super retarded!!! I just addressed this in my first post, and here you are, repeating the same error!!! EVOLUTION DOES NOT ADDRESS HOW LIFE CAME ABOUT!!! IT ONLY ADDRESSES HOW NEW SPECIES COME ABOUT(eg.ants that can fly/ ants that cannot fly)!!!

So we are super retarded for believing that a world this complex was created by a creator. While you are super intelligent for believing that the greatest ever accomplishment since the beginning of time just happened to be by chance.

Have you read about Anthony Flew who was a renowned atheist for a very long time until after he read about the very complex DNA and became a deist.

Keep living in delusion, whether you hate God or not doesn't change the fact that God is your creator.

Most of you guys just keep insulting the government without thinking and bringing up a solution to the problem. I know for a matter of fact that this government is much better than GEJ own.

He caused all this by not planning for the future. If you think you can do better then cast the first stone

CoolUsername:
Maybe you don't understand what a light year is: simply put, a light year is the distance that light would travel in a year. If a star is several millions of light years way from the earth, then the fact that we can see it means that the light from the star had millions of years to travel to us.

The fact that God created the stars and made the light to shine on us just the same way God created Adam as an adult and not a baby.

So basically, what you're saying is that 50,000 representatives of each land animal family underwent speciation to become the
6 million land species we have today?

Off course it might not be every land animal but most broke down to form the six million species we av now.

Have you ever heard of continental drift? Scientists attribute it to tectonic activity. While creationism attributes it to the flood. Taking the scientific route, kangaroos got seperated when Australia broke off from a larger continental mass millions of years ago. It doesn't add up in creationism's <10,000 year world.

Continental drift has the following errors

The concept of destruction of sea-floor plates over millions of years by slow underthrusting below ocean trenches is also doubtful.
Furthermore, the cause for the alleged gradual and uninterrupted motion of plates is an unsolved mystery.

MrPresident1:
2Timothy 4:8
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Paul says the Lord will give him and others a crown of righteousness when He comes, yet this generation will not pass away till all these things be fulfilled, and these words were written hundreds of years ago, and Paul passed away a long time ago too.

Yet he says he will be here to receive his crown in the generation Jesus is referencing.

Reincarnation?

Your naiviety is three much,

Do you think after death, you go to sleep and that's is all sorry to bust your bubble, after death is judgement. After Paul dies he knows that his work would be blessed and he would make heaven.

As for d second verse, it talks about the prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem.

CoolUsername:
I like the fact that you said that you're not presenting a scientific case for this scientific argument but still went ahead to call those in support of the scientific model fools. You're just as God intended.

God created world in 6 days, but we have planets millions of light years away. Why? To mess with us? Then good job!

Maybe you don't understand that light years mean distance not time.

There was a flood 4,000 years ago, there are two ways to go about this:
1. Lie that somehow the ark was able to take two representatives all the unclean land species and SEVEN representatives of all the clean ones. There are 6 million species of land animals, mind you; we have the complete specs of the ark.


2. Lie that 'created kinds' don't equate to species but instead, genera, families, or even orders to beat the number down from over 12 million animals to between 2,000 and 50,000 animals.

You answered yourself here, do you know that horses, donkeys, zebras are from the same kind of family. The type of creatures then were probably not the same we have today.
After they came down God blessed them and said to the animals be fruitful and multiply, fill the surface of the earth.

As it is, you can fit them into the ark, but that means you're implying that 2,000 - 50,000 animals branched into 6 million species somehow in 4,000 years. Then you turn around and say that man and ape couldn't have branched from a common ancestor millions of years ago.
None of these failed attempts can tell us how kangaroos were able to make it from the Middle East to Australia.

But I'm still the fool because gawd.

So evolution can tell us how they migrated?

SirWere:
**Sighs**



The ignorance displayed by some people is amazing. Let me reiterate: Evolution has nothing, I repeat nothing, to do with religion or disblief.

The main bulk of Theists who are scientists do accept Evolution as Scientifically Valid.(Leakey himself was a Catholic). It doesn't serve for one to dwell in a pit of ignorance and speak rubbish.

C'mon!!!!

So been a scientist makes you infallible?

Niflheim:
7."Neither has Evolution ever been observed".......................Please, tell me you are joking, so you have never seen rats in swampy areas that eventually develop webbed feet?

That is called micro evolution, to this day there is no proof of macro evolution, the changing from one creature to another which is the basis of evolution

8."Both creation and evolution are faith based systems"...........................It has been repeated over 1,000 times, you must have some serious issues to be repeating this again. Evolution does not, and I repeat, does not address the origin of the Earth or the origin of life!!! It simply talks about Modification with common descent over time!!!

And what does that mean, there is no concrete evidence for evolution, till this day despite the great strides we have made in science and technology, evolutionarists av still not been able to create life despite claiming to know all the compounds.

You want us to believe that if I place a big bowl of garri in empty space after some billion years the garri would become an organism.

If evolution was true, the other planets around us are almost the same age with us I guess, so why is there nothing as regard to evolution happening there.

9."Scientists are rejecting a plausible theory without examining it's merits".................................That is because creationism(just like cretinism), has no merits!!!

The greatest merit of creationalosm is you and I (humans). If evolution were in anyway true, how come we are so distinct from other animals, we have emotions, unparalleled intelligence, we are highly creative. Am supposed to believe we inherited all that from a creature that looks like an ape which also fathered the apes. Such high level of fiction, I am earnestly waiting for an evolution movie to av some sci-fi fun in d cinemas.

10."Evolution is an enabler of atheism".............................Ha ha ha ha ha!!! This is really ridiculous!!! Did you study Food and Nutrition in secondary school? Does Food and Nutrition make any mention of god? Then I guess that Food and Nutrition also promotes Atheism, and your Food and Nutrition teachers are also atheists!!! When you studied Economics and Mathematics in school, how many times did they mention god in your text books?!!

Most atheists ascribe to evolution theory as their base, some do not but definitely evolution has helped atheism cause.

folksync:
Then, explain this:

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. “ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

One thing you and your fellow atheists should note is that Jesus mostly spoke in parables.

Matt 24:14 "And. this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come"

Here Jesus made it know that it is only after the gospel has been preached all around the world before he would come back.

When he talked about the disciples seeing the son of man in his kingdom that happened at Jerusalem when the appostles gathered to receive the holy spirit in Acts 2: 1-3

"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them."

folksync:
He vividly instructed them to watch out for the signs.

"Take heed that no man deceive
you." (Matt 24:4)


"...ye shall hear of wars, and rumours of wars..." (Matt 24:6)


"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted..." (Matt 24:9)


"When ye therefore shall see the the abomination of desolation..." (Matt 24:15)


"But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter..." (Matt 24:20)


"Behold, I have told you before." (Matt 24:25)

Can you see your error, Christ wasn't talking about his second coming here but about the desolation of Jerusalem which happened about 40 years later.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)

Jesus doesn't even know the time when he is coming back only God knows.

CoolUsername:
But you see, the early christian church thought they were seeing signs, every generation has thought they were seeing signs. People used to think that Napoleon Bonaparte was the antichrist back in the 17th century.

Your explanation doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Jesus himself said no one knows the time and season of his second coming not even Jesus. It is only God that knows.

How do you compare Jesus and Hitler/Muhammad together.

From your post I can detect some few things.
1. You dislike Jews because they are the base of the two top religions in the world. Christianity and Islam.
2. You hate religion.
3. You clearly have no knowledge about Jesus and his message, just because some people are twisting his message doesn't make him a bad teacher, learn more about him.

I think you av a wrong perception about religion and about Christ. Go and research about his teachings hopefully your eyes would be opened to d truth.

Olulinks:
Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in 'Ethnography Museum of Ankara.'

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.

Read more: www.theinfopost.org/2015/03/1500-year-old-bible-confirms-that-jesus.html?m=1#Szbh9becFLCHoI7K.01

Because it is old does that make it true?

lllllllllllll:
Perplexed, do they hate us?

How do you mean, they brought schools, hospitals, helped to remove terrible cultures like killing of twins etc from our culture.

Because some whites used the bible to enslave some of us doesn't mean Christianity is bad. Just because someone used a cutlass to kill another person doesn't mean all cutlasses are bad. Christianity is a religion of Jesus Christ point out where Jesus supported slavery.

Destinygrl:
sleeeeeeeepp pray then watch football
receive a call and text form my ex saying happy birthday

HBD dear

ayidrgracxe:
Ttqttwvvb

Seriously, how many people fall for your trick

DropShot:
When you see known wailers viewing this kind of thread and passing without commenting, then you know that they feel saddened by the good news.

Why will some people just decide to be sadistic just because of election loss? Why will news that should naturally make sane persons happy cause sadness if not that something is genetically wrong with them?



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It is not everyone that likes commenting on threads, guys like me just read, laugh and click likes.


Buhari been d President is d best thing that happened to Nigeria since 1999

misspresident:
if you love her marry her.

The girl is on naira land

BUTCHCASSIDY:
Superbowl 50 is in 4 days time.
who do U think will take it all?
the Broncos or the Panthers

Broncos 4 life

















Lol if I hear broncos ko promo ni

Another front page trash

Trentling now this is really funny

ValentineMary:

Here we go again. Another confused theist. You just showed that u hardly read the bible, no wonder u still believe it. Why would God even kill d Egyptian kids for d sins of their parents

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the
LORD your God is giving you that some
worthless rabble among you have led their
fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to
worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must
examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true
and can prove that such a detestable act has
occurred among you, you must attack that town
and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as
well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all
the plunder in the middle of the street and burn
it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt
offering to the LORD your God. That town must
remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.
Keep none of the plunder that has been set
apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn
from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a
great nation, just as he solemnly promised your
ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful
only if you obey him and keep all the commands
I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to
him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a
virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of
the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring
the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and
there her townsman shall stone her to death,
because she committed a crime against Israel by
her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus
shall you purge the evil from your midst.
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

If your own full brother, or your son or
daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate
friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods,
whom you and your fathers have not known,
gods of any other nations, near at hand or far
away, from one end of the earth to the other:
do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look
with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but
kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to
slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with
you. You shall stone him to death, because he
sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your
God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt,
that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of
this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in
your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While
he was on his way, some small boys came out
of the city and jeered at him. "Go up
baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The
prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed
them in the name of the Lord. Then two
shebears came out of the woods and tore forty
two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24
NAB)

Come on go ahead to defend this silly acts again. And moreover our stay on earth is temporary that is why we should make d best use of it instead of killing people because of fairytales and myths.

The truth is sometimes bitter, the fact that God is just and you don't agree with his rules doesn't make him a fairy tale.

The old testament is to show the world how terrible sin is and how just God is. The bible says God hates evil and he would punish the wicked if they refuse to change their ways.

The story of Elisha can be explained like this

1. The children are not really little children, they are most likely between the age of 12-22. They knew what they were doing.
2. The insults were not aimed at Elisha but at the God he was serving.
3. Elisha is not an evil man, he had just finished doing a miracle in Jericho to cure the water they were drinking there.
4. Those young men were most likely false prophets of Baal jeering and making jest of God. They had it coming for them.

johnydon22:
[b]The poor masses have been a victim of his own idiocy. On the right he has the government collecting tax but cannot provide basic social amenities for him.

On the other hand he has Alfas, con men in suits and roman collar with bible extorting them of the little ones they have left in the name of Jesus Christ "Our Lord"..

Such dishonesty and outright tricky shenanigans: You are no longer Under the Law but still under the law of tithe... they cherrypick the verses they want you to hear with the one that will benefit them.

I have always maintained with the amount of money spent on Churches and Pastors in several communities used for the good of the community, nobody would need the government for anything.

In every community no matter how poor there are always magnificent churches and houses for pastors, some of these magnificent churches costing billions.

If these poor people channeled these billions to community projects that will be beneficial to the communities instead like hospitals, roads, water am sure they won't be waiting around for incompetent governments to do everything for them.

But No the poor people spend billions building Churches for Imaginary God(s) who supposedly is not a material entity but needs a material house, private jets for the con men who sell this God.

If there are God(s) and they are more interested with Temples and Churches and Mosques other than Hospitals, water projects and other amenities necessary for the good of the community then surely enough these God(s) do not care about you and do not deserve your worship.

If not why not use these money contributed by poor people to build projects that will really help them not a con-house where they loose more of their hard earned money to a fraudster in corporate attire.

Now they already have an App for it... Sometimes i feel like people who are too gullible to be scammed deserves to be scammed [/b]

What you have said is partly true in that some of the so called men of God use the name of Jesus as a means to steal from the poor.

But that doesnt make the name of God wrong or fake.

ValentineMary:

Most times when I interact with christians, I am amazed at the level of their ignorance. If a christian can defend an imaginary God who killed children just to show his glory, who died for a sin I was yet to commit, a God eho does not even know the geography of what he created,etc. Then obviously they can defend a silly mobile app. The thing with many people is that they can't come to terms with the fact that their aged long belief is wrong. But strongly held prejudice does not deny that God is just a theoretical construct, and we are worshiping our imaginations.

I do not understand you unbelievers, what you are saying that God killed children is most likely from the book of exodus. The Egyptians had been enslaving the Israelites for 400 years killing their male children in the process.

God gave them a lot of time to change their wicked ways but they didn't. So when God paid them the wages of their crime it becomes a sin to you.

BTW Our years on earth are vanity, man's life is like dust. The most important thing is where we spend our eternity which is the message of Christ.

Back to the main topic, most of the men of God we have are false prophets only in for their bellies. Jesus himself said freely you have received, freely you give.

The apostles reiterated the message, you can never see where the apostles collected tithes or first fruits from Christians then.

Decker:
It's always advisable that if you want to engage in premarital sex, you should endeavor to use protection always. Asides preventing you from getting pregnant it also protects against STDs.
It was your first sex and the smart thing would have been for both you and the guy to use protection, but you didn't and now you are facing the consequences.

I am going to be honest with you. It's not right to abort children. It's religiously and morally wrong. It's murder and it's not right.
Asides for the fact that abortion is wrong, it can also be detrimental to the health of the lady and sometimes it could be fatal. So I won't advice you to abort the pregnancy. Besides this isn't a decision you should take on your own.

You just gonna have to tell your parents. That's the best thing. They are not going to kill you. They would scold you and probably punish you, but they still love you and have your interest at heart. Talk to your mum. Present the matter to her in a mature way, and be prepared for what would come after that. She would get mad and angry and emotional, but after a day or two, she would come along. She is a woman like you. If after you present the matter to your parents and they insist you abort it, then you have no choice. You aren't going to raise the child alone. But I don't think they would. I don't think any parent would want their child to abort a pregnancy.
If they tell you to keep it, I am sure they would proffer ideas and solutions on how you would go about the whole pregnancy issue including sorting things out with the guy who impregnated you.

You made a mistake, I get it. Everyone makes mistakes at some point in their lives, what's important is that we all learn from these mistakes. Don't worry, it's all right. Everything is okay.

You are just 21 and you have your whole life in front of you. Don't let this discourage you in anyway. It's just a little set back, but don't let it stand as a hindrance to you striving to achieve your dreams and goals in life.

It's alright.

I always love reading your responses they make a whole lot of sense.

You need Jesus like seriously and also see a psychologist.
You really need help

Donald3d:
i am coming MODIFIED:the answer is 66(i will explain soon.i dey shiiit)

You are right