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Chochovini:
. Mr man, stop defending hypocrisy and let God be the jugde. Thats not exposing any decay in the Church. His heart itself is decayed incuding anyone defending him.

Come to think of it, was that the only thing that happened in that Church? Why did‘t he record and post the sermon given insted a twerking lady in the Church. He cannot confess before God that he didn‘t admired the butt of the dancing lady.

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Haven't u read that God have given us the power to judge? Read 1 Corinthians 5:12. We are not allowed to judge if we ourselves are guilty of what we are judging. Eg, a thief judging a thief.
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I don't know the poster, but if his intension is to expose decay in the church, God will bless him and there is nothing u can do to stop that. God tells us to expose evil - Eph 4:11. But you want him to hide the evil and thus, disobey God. So U are the one whose heart is decayed.
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How did u know that the op lusted after the lady? You that is condemning us for judging is now judging. What an irony!
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So u see, we all can't do without judging. But the bible tells us to judge righteously - "New Living Translation:
Look beneath the surface so you can judge correctly.” - John 7:24
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The sermon is also important. But u can't ignore evils hiding in the midst of good. EXPOSE SINNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

smartasuen:
I appreciate your opinions thus far but how could you distinctively tell from the video you watched that the motive behind the lady's moves was to seduce men rather than praise God?

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Even if Satan had given her a clear conscience, does that mean we shud see such and keep quiet? Many people do evil with clear conscience. So it is not a matter of ur conscience, it is a matter of what is good or bad b4 God.
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It takes maturity in Christ to differentiate between good and evil - Hebrews 5:14

Omniman:
David didn't wear Pant.... Thats butt naked

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Another lies from Satan. Don't die with this ur believe. Without holiness no eyes can see the Lord.

Funkybabee:
Yes I know Mr judges, give your life to Christ, know the meaning of true Christianity and be free of bad thought

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We judge no one wrongly. Rather we make righteous judgement. It takes a Spirit-filled Christian to differentiate good from evil.

Kay25:
you are right

. God blesss u for understanding. Some people can't just understand.

Tetehjewels:
Dance is part of worship
Singing is part of worship
Jumping and shouting (if you want) is part of worship

In short anything you feel is right to do in a moment of passionate praise to God for whatever He has done in your life DO IT.

David Danced in praises to God that he almost went Naked.

He was mocked by his wife for being a King yet shamelessly dancing to the point of almost going Naked. God who knew his heart and the reason for his passionate praise afflicted the one mocking him with Barrenness and accepted the praise of David despite him almost going Naked in the process

Read your Bible

Omniman:
David was butt naked...

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Lies from the pit of HELL!!!!
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David didn't go naked. His wife called it naked because David remove his kingly dress and dressed like commoners!
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2 Samuel 6:14 (ESV) And David danced before the Lord with all his might. And David was wearing a linen ephod.
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1 Chronicles 15:27 (ESV) David was clothed with a robe of fine linen, as also were all the Levites who were carrying the ark, and the singers and Chenaniah the leader of the music of the singers. And David wore a linen ephod.
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An ephod was a priestly garment worn over a simple robe; there was nothing immodest about it. David just had simple (humble) clothing, not his kingly garb that would have designated him as above the others, he was dressed as the rest of Levites bearing the ark. David was humbled before his Lord and the ark.
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http://www.bereanwife.net/2009/10/did-david-dance-before-the-lord-naked/
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https://www.gotquestions.org/did-David-dance-naked.html

Chochovini:
. So what now do you hope to achieve by posting this here?

Is it So that some unbelievers on this forum would have a field day mocking and castigating the Christian faith or what? Or did you do this for a pay, tell us?

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If he posted the video to expose the level of decay in the church, he did a good job b4 God and godly men.

Angelfrost:
I completely disdain and abhor the action of whoever made that video...

However, let's call a spade what it really is... A seductive outfit is exactly what it is! There are certain dressings for specific individual bodies and meant for certain occasions too.

We all know that you don't wear certain outfits to offices and places of worship! This is just common sense! Asking people not to get tempted by something seductive makes absolutely no sense by any stretch of the intelligence!

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Actually, Christians are suppose to maintain modesty at all time, whether in church or elsewhere so long as it is in public.

smartasuen:
Pls can you elaboratively differentiate between dancing modestly and immodestly, especially when you are high on the Spirit of praise.

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Dancing modestly means dancing in a way that doesn't suggest sex or seduction, like the way sinners dance in night clubs. Also, don't confuse being high in the spirit with emotional highness. Many you see are just high emotionally. U can't be high in the spirit and be a sinner at the same time.

smartasuen:
Note that she is naturally voluptuous, so even if she does those dance moves in the most flabby gown, they will still be noticeable.

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The question is, why didn't she dressed modestly? There is nothing bad about a woman dancing modestly in modest dressing. Any man who lust after such a woman is sinning on his own.

Kay25:
okay I understand ur stand now ..Yes she might have dressed like a prostitute but u can't send her out of church cos that's here place of healing but I agree today's pastors we don't condemn sin we allow it so we are all guilty of that I must say

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I'm happy u understand. But here is another thing u need to know. The church is for sinners that want to repent. Sinners that are teacheable. It is not a place for hardened sinners. Those type that will give u reasons why sin is not sin. Those type that will dress immodestly and say it is only their heart that matters to God.
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When I was still a boy, I heard someone (from Winners or Christ embassy) saying that people are free to dress anyhow to church. That you can't chase them away. That it is the preaching that will change them. But today what is happening? When I grew up, my church, Anglican, started saying the same thing. Guess what? Ladies now dress like prostitutes in my church.
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A little yeast will affect the whole batch of flour. In early churches, unrepentant sinners were chased out of the church after several warnings. But it is not so today because many men of God are interested in money, not souls.

Funkybabee:
Bro holy farmtech
Happy Sunday
May God open your eyes and brain

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If u understand how God feels about sin, u will take this serious. Do u know that we all will give account of everything we say? Including everything u support on Nairaland. But many people just write anything and think they will get away with it.

Angels assigned to you are recording everything. On that great day of judgement, books will be opened and we will be judged from them. If u are truely a Christian, stand for Christ's interest and expose sin. Don't promote satanic ideologies that full this world.

judedwriter:
Lust will take you to hell fire.....

Be careful how you look at women, even in the church.

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You are right. In addition, women shud know that dressing seductively will also lead them to hell. I wish men of God will start emphasizing these truth.

Kay25:
you are right talking about exposing sin but recording someone while dancing to God is not ain exposure rather u making a stumbling block for others through mockery

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U don't get what I'm saying. See, sb that dress like a prostitute is dancing for God? I sense that u see nothing wrong with her dressing.
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No wonder, after years of silence from men of God, immodesty is now normal in the eyes of many.

Amanda4life:
SOME PEOPLE WILL COME HERE TO CRITICIZED MUSLIMS.

WHILE CHRISTAINS FAILED TO PUT THEIR HOUSE IN ORDER

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All the Christians supporting immodesty, SHAME on you! U are all disgrace to Christ. You will not escape God's punishment of you don't repent.

Funkybabee:
So she should not twerk just because of her shape or some perverted soul

God forgive you eh

You better surrender your life to Christ before it's too late

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If this generation can support such evil, I pity the useless children parents are raising. An army for Satan is coming. Immoral celebs have turned many into zombies that feed on lust and seduction. According to this one, it is now normal to dress in body-clinging cloth and twerk for God. U are the pervert.

smartasuen:
What matters most is the motive. If it's totally to glorify God's name, then she's done absolutely nothing wrong!

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Which kind motive? Do u know that satan can influence people's conscience and make them believe lies as if they were truth? This is exactly what happen with immodesty. Many Christians now see nothing wrong with it. All those dresses we see prostitutes wear in the past, Christians are now dragging them with prostitutes. But I maintain the truth: Immodesty will end them up in hell.
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If they like, let them deceive themselves with passages from songs of Solomon, Story of Ruth and Noami and co. It doesn't make seduction, lust and temptation good things b4 God. Any lady who dresses seductively is hell bound.
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1 Corinthians 4:4
My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me.

Kay25:
She has no problem with God but you who recorded it will be judged for making it a stumbling block unto others

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Eph 5:11 tells us to expose sin. Hiding sin is satanic. If the op's intension is to expose sin, he is doing a gud job b4 God. Repent and expose sin. Immodesty have secretly eaten up Christians and many men of God are doing absolutely nothing about it.

Kizzygentle:
Perverts everywere... So because she is curvy she shouldn't dance in the church. The person that did this video is the devil.. So he couldnt worship or focus rather perversing on a lady worshiping God innocently without any negative intention..

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You are actually the devil's child for supporting evil dressing and seduction! Why wear revealing dresses to public places? Or don't you know that it is sin to place stumbling blocks on the path of others? She is causing people to lust and you are here supporting her. May God deliver u all.

RichDad1:
Let God be the judge. Face what brought you to church.

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Are u supporting immodesty or what? Where did the bible tell us to hide evil when we see it?

This is soooo good!

Farmerakinloye6:
I have seen! and practice different spacing, but i prefer 1.2m by 30cm any day anytime. If you know when and how to prune, believe me! 1.2m by 50cm or more is just a waste of land.

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Thanks. I will try it out. I've always used 50cm. I prune too, but not as meticulously like what I read about it. Waiting for that your pruning video.

Farmerakinloye6:
This is the main stand. I prune the plant yesterday, I told my boy to start weeding this morning... I will post the video on how to prune on my channel in the night for those that has interest.

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Which plant spacing do you think is the best?

Sysdatek:
cross river lost it after donald duke


tourism died
development died
cleanliness died
no jobs

calabar is
now a cultist and robbery haven ruled by a joke governor

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That is what usually happens when a society embrace immorality. We shud be expecting more since almost all women now prefer to dress like prostitutes and pastors do nothing about it. Children now look up to immoral celebs as their role model. What about bbn? With all these and other ones, we shud be expecting more. Nigeria have enthrone Satan.

southniyikaye:
Coincidentally, I saw this on the internet some minutes ago, I had to go back and do a screenshot..
Seems since the covid failed partially, they are scheming something else. The same way he talked about the covid before it actually happened.

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During the heat of covid 19, I had a bad dream of another disease that will be transmitted by mosquitoes!

jesusjnr2020:
It's good that you've now corrected yourself that not all parents were responsible for their children not following the right path.

The Bible never said that, so it's not an excuse as some parents have trained their children in the right way as the Bible instructs, but some of them chose to depart from it.

It's unfair to to blame some parents for having one bad egg out of six children, who chose to depart from the right way they were trained.

So yes, many parents don't train their children in the right way, but not all parents are responsible for children who choose the wrong path, because the children have freewill to choose at the end, hence they can't force them just as God didn't force Adam and Eve did in the beginning. They can only train them in the right way and hope and pray they do not depart from it.

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Agreed.

ogbongenet:
yes

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Late reply. I bought long time ago. Thanks

jesusjnr2020:
So are you saying that loopholes made God's supposed children, Adam and Eve, to depart from the way God trained them?

It's okay though if you think that way.

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God is different oo. I won't cause Him of anything. But u see humans? They are the ones mostly responsible for misleading their children. And they do that mostly indirectly - like speaking well of immoral celebs, dirty jokes, immoral songs, in descent dresses etc. Christians parents are not left out.
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And so, God told us to train them in the way they shud go and they will not depart from it. We shud take this statement serious rather than finding excuses.

Krak:
One of my friends suggested I use Lifeline but I could not find it in my area, I think I will settle for glyphosate and apply it carefully.

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U shud remove all lower leaves that will get on the way b4 spraying. Although some people in my area just spray without doing that.

jesusjnr2020:
My argument is not there are no loopholes because there certainly are, and I am a believer that a good upbringing is very important and goes a long way.

I'm just saying that a good upbringing doesn't guarantee a good child as many wrongly see it.

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Fo r me, I believe what the bible says "... and he will not depart from it". It is only the loopholes that will make them depart. So parents shud sit up.

jesusjnr2020:
How do you know that they would not depart from it if they trained in that way?

Didn't Adam and Eve or the children of Samuel depart from it?

Does that mean they weren't trained in the right way?

Training is important but it all boils down to the children if they would continue in that right path or not.

Thanks and God bless.

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If the bible had given us details of how they trained their children, we would see their mistakes. Remember, they were not perfect.
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But so far as this generation is concern, there is a lot of loopholes in children upbringing. Entertainment industry is no.1.

Blissquare:
I like this question and I've come to the conclusion that everyone is just doing what is convenient for them.
I have an aunt who has a daughter that is a real slay queen. My aunt has been an S.U. all her life and is married to a pastor.
The parents take pictures with their daughter who visits them in skimpy clothes.
I don't expect them to disown their daughter but why taking pictures and subscribing to the things their daughter does that are very worldly. She drives them in a car that she can not afford but borrowed from a make admirer...e.t.c.
They claim that have told her to stop her ways but she doesn't listen

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Some parents, in the name of showing love, just make senseless mistakes. If your child is doing sth bad, don't be afraid to make your stand known in words and action. Don't get tired of rebuking. Jesus said that the world hated him because he kept on telling them that their ways are evil. That is true love. Keeping mute in the face of evil is actually wickedness.