Estharfabian:
LoL.



there's little to No motivation.

Please be motivated...read and ....

I'm sorry guys, I have edited and summarized too it as I can....any one can now read and advise.

Hey guys,

Ive been cautiously chatting with this person before now but as i logged online today she chatted me up and i played along.

she said she's in London for a training and that her daughter in a school in Benin is sick. she begged me to give 10k to her daughter's teacher (Haruna Zakari) so he will help take care of the sick girl.

I actually confirmed the account details to be genuine (Account name...Haruna Zakari Okolo....Account number 6172198434 and the bank is Fidelity Bank). She asked me to call Mr Haruna on 08147699581 to confirm payment and tell him to take the girl to hospital. Meanwhile that phone number is tied to the name FLORENCE OKOLIE on facebook.

However, the way she reacted angrily when I delayed the payment almost confirmed my suspicions. But at the last part of our chat she tried to defend the Haruna man as genuine which is now making me change my mind.

If you guys say she is genuine, i will send the 10k.

See details of my chat with her:

Missie F: Pls I have many pain in my heart right now. I just don't who to trust and believe in

Mr Okosun: hello Flo...good morning pain? trust? Auuu...thats disturbing

Missie F: Do you know what love is? You

Mr Okosun: would you like to share a bit what it is....maybe i may have something to say or soothe you a bit

yea i know love, i have loved and i have been out of it too

and i know the difference....and the feeling


Missie F: No I don't think you can because I am in need of support and understanding and trust

Mr Okosun: i'm not God....but i really am interested in assisting

Missie F: My daughter is sick in school and I am offshore where I can't send money to her and I didn't carry along account details i can use to send money to them in school

Mr Okosun: and pls give me a chance....you have nothing to lose dear

okay so what do you want for her?

Missie F: You can't visit her in school if only I am present before you can see her

Mr Okosun: auuu her school is in benin right...are you in cntact with any of their teachers or guardians in school

Missie F: I want you to borrow me whatever amount you can to send through her caretaker mr Haruna Zakari to my baby in school and I will be glad to pay you back your money with interest if you wish it

Mr Okosun: okay....good which bank is that

Missie F: Yes I am who I have his account details now to help send some cash to her for treatment

Mr Okosun:give me the account number.....i hope 5k will be good for a start

Missie F: I have to go back to work now as I have a call, Can you please help me with 10 or more

Mr Okosun: just drop the account number so i can send someone quickly to the bank once its 8am here

Missie F: Can you borrow me 10

Mr Okosun: 10....ok i'll see what i can do

Missie F: Thanks I will do so now and will not forget your assistance easily

Missie F: Account name...Haruna Zakari....Account number 6172198434 and the band is Fidelity Bank

Mr Okosun: ok...can you give me a number i can use to call him just to confirm he got the money dear

Missie F: His number is 08147699581 - Mr Haruna Zakari

Mr Okosun: oh thanks dear....i will send someone right away

Missie F: His name and a teacher to my baby

Mr Okosun: and lemme add you on facebook dearie......uve not given me ur name so i add you

Missie F: Ok thanks pls drop a message here so I can call you when you send it and also call my baby too.

Dear let me get back to work and expect to read from you here and call you soon. Have a good day and stay blessed dear

10:57
Missie F: Are you online
Wow you are here
What are you right w
Have you sent the money i want you to borrow me
Hello there
How much did you send
Hello there
What going on why are you not talking dear


11:41am
Mr Okosun: hello, oh i dint realise you already here
i went to the bank myself to pay in and they were asking me too much questions
i told them i want to pay Zakari Haruna and they said what they have is Okolo Zakari Haruna....pls is it the same person

Missie F: Yes it is dear, It is the same name
Are you online
I have confirmed it and it is correct q
Haruna Zakari okolo
Hello there I am sorry it was my mistake okay
Hello there
Are you busy
Chat with me dear
Hello dear are you back online
Mr Okosun

1:53pm
Mr Okosun: hello, i'm here

Missie F: I'm here to read from you
where are you
It was correct name

Mr Okosun: ok i saw your replies but i was already back at work
so i been looking for an opportunity to sneak out and go again

Missie F: We have sail to north of Netherlands on a training tour
And Will sail back before weekend, Ok please get it done on time dear

Mr Okosun: ok it will be good to have you back to nigeria by weekend so you go check on your baby girl

Missie F: I wish I could disappear and go to see her in School

Mr Okosun:: i will do it for you. it would have been done if not for the issue with the name

Mr Okosun: yes i understand how you feel. just relax she will be okay

Missie F: By his grace almighty
I just checked on you and need to go back to my work here
I wish to call you and my daughter today if you get across to them on my behalf today dear
I am waiting for your reply soon my dear
Take care and stay safe dear
Hello dear what's going on and have gone to send it
Hello are you online as i see you here

4:09pm
Mr Okosun: yes, hello are you there

Missie F: Wow you are here
Have you sent the money i want you to borrow me
Hello there
How much did you send
What going on why are you not talking dear

Mr Okosun: yes, hello are you there
i couldnt get a chance to go again but i sent someone to go
i have been speaking with him while he is there
he just come back with the N10,000.....i dont understand this fidelity bank and their issues

Missie F: What is the issue

Mr Okosun: he said it was as if they were waiting for him
and the bankers were questioning him ifhe knows Zakari well
and why he is paying into the account

Missie F: So you mean it's difficult to deposit money
You are a stupid man

Mr Okosun: so he called me and was asking me questions

Missie F: Bleep you idiot, You liar

Mr Okosun: i told him to come back so i will go pay in myself tomorrow morning first thing

Missie F: Go to hell with your money
Thanks for time delay

Mr Okosun: they ask who is Florence Okolie

Missie F: You are a big fool
Do I look like a scammer
Get the Bleep of you stupid fool

Mr Okosun: Chevron staff.....I have lodged a complaint at the bank,
if you near there....you're gone...just be using only atm

Missie F: Nonetheless you can say anything, You must be mad
You have brain disorder

Mr Okosun: lol you will soon see your details all over social media
sore loser...scammer...go get a job sweerie
hahahahahaha na so e pain you reach

Missie F: Mr Haruna is a very clean man and I felt you have changed from your old ways

Mr Okosun: you dont know im 10times smarter than you.....lol
Karuna Okolo...ibo name plus hausa
try and near the bank if he is genuine

Missie F: Na today social media dey your papa no am b4

Mr Okosun: Florence Okolieeeeeeeee, we are on to you

Missie F: That's nonsense, Go to hell

Mr Okosun: see ur mouth to chop 10k.....for this country wey hard like this

Missie F: You are just a poor shit here looking for ,,......Big fool

Mr Okosun: u no even pity me as i say i be teacher....lol did i ask you for anything?
Loool...dont go and vent your anger on another person

Missie F: Get lost old fool fake man

Mr Okosun: lol im no old fake.....im young look my picx
kai....e pain am oooooo shebi if to say i fall mugu, u for don dey laff now.....u for chop better this evening

Missie F is typing...

noted

bolliejay:

SUBJECT. PASSWORD
Taxation. tax_at12
PSAF. PSA_F*12
BUSINESS LAW. BUS_NES*21
ADVANCED TAXATION. AD_VAN*12
ADVANCE AUDIT ASSURANCE. AD*AU*AS
AUDIT ASSURANCE. AU*ASS***
BUSINESS FINANCE. BU-FI*1
CASE STUDY. CAST*1*2
FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING. FA**F*A. MANAGEMENT GOV ETHIC. MA*G*OE*
QUANTITATIVE TECHNIQUES BIZ. Q*T*BSS
CORPORATE REPORTING. *_CR
FINANCIAL REPORTING. F_*_R
MANAGEMENT INFORMATION. *_M_*_I
PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT. P(*)M
SFM. S_$_FM

A few days ago, the Oba of Lagos threatened Igbo leaders. If they did not vote for his governorship candidate in Lagos, he said, they would be thrown into the lagoon. His entire speech was a flagrant performance of disregard. His words said, in effect: I think so little of you that I don’t have to cajole you but will just threaten you and, by the way, your safety in Lagos is not assured, it is negotiable.
There have been condemnations of the Oba’s words. Sadly, many of the condemnations from non-Igbo people have come with the ugly impatience of expressions like ‘move on,’ and ‘don’t be over-emotional’ and ‘calm down.’ These take away the power, even the sincerity, of the condemnations. It is highhanded and offensive to tell an aggrieved person how to feel, or how quickly to forgive, just as an apology becomes a non-apology when it comes with ‘now get over it.’
Other condemnations of the Oba’s words have been couched in dismissive or diminishing language such as ‘The Oba can’t really do anything, he isn’t actually going to kill anyone. He was joking. He was just being a loudmouth.’

Or – the basest yet – ‘we are all prejudiced.’ It is dishonest to respond to a specific act of prejudice by ignoring that act and instead stressing the generic and the general. It is similar to responding to a specific crime by saying ‘we are all capable of crime.’ Indeed we are. But responses such as these are diversionary tactics. They dismiss the specific act, diminish its importance, and ultimately aim at silencing the legitimate fears of people.

We are indeed all prejudiced, but that is not an appropriate response to an issue this serious. The Oba is not an ordinary citizen. He is a traditional ruler in a part of a country where traditional rulers command considerable influence – the reluctance on the part of many to directly chastise the Oba speaks to his power. The Oba’s words matter. He is not a singular voice; he represents traditional authority. The Oba’s words matter because they are enough to incite violence in a political setting already fraught with uncertainty. The Oba’s words matter even more in the event that Ambode loses the governorship election, because it would then be easy to scapegoat Igbo people and hold them punishable.

Nigerians who consider themselves enlightened might dismiss the Oba’s words as illogical. But the scapegoating of groups – which has a long history all over the world – has never been about logic. The Oba’s words matter because they bring worrying echoes of the early 1960s in Nigeria, when Igbo people were scapegoated for political reasons. Chinua Achebe, when he finally accepted that Lagos, the city he called home, was unsafe for him because he was Igbo, saw crowds at the motor park taunting Igbo people as they boarded buses: ‘Go, Igbo, go so that garri will be cheaper in Lagos!’
Of course Igbo people were not responsible for the cost of garri. But they were perceived as people who were responsible for a coup and who were ‘taking over’ and who, consequently, could be held responsible for everything bad.

Any group of people would understandably be troubled by a threat such as the Oba’s, but the Igbo, because of their history in Nigeria, have been particularly troubled. And it is a recent history. There are people alive today who were publicly attacked in cosmopolitan Lagos in the 1960s because they were Igbo. Even people who were merely light-skinned were at risk of violence in Lagos markets, because to be light-skinned was to be mistaken for Igbo.

Almost every Nigerian ethnic group has a grouse of some sort with the Nigerian state. The Nigerian state has, by turns, been violent, unfair, neglectful, of different parts of the country. Almost every ethnic group has derogatory stereotypes attached to it by other ethnic groups.

But it is disingenuous to suggest that the experience of every ethnic group has been the same. Anti-Igbo violence began under the British colonial government, with complex roots and manifestations. But the end result is a certain psychic difference in the relationship of Igbo people to the Nigerian state. To be Igbo in Nigeria is constantly to be suspect; your national patriotism is never taken as the norm, you are continually expected to prove it.

All groups are conditioned by their specific histories. Perhaps another ethnic group would have reacted with less concern to the Oba’s threat, because that ethnic group would not be conditioned by a history of being targets of violence, as the Igbo have been.

Many responses to the Oba’s threat have mentioned the ‘welcoming’ nature of Lagos, and have made comparisons between Lagos and southeastern towns like Onitsha. It is valid to debate the ethnic diversity of different parts of Nigeria, to compare, for example, Ibadan and Enugu, Ado-Ekiti and Aba, and to debate who moves where, and who feels comfortable living where and why that is. But it is odd to pretend that Lagos is like any other city in Nigeria. It is not. The political history of Lagos and its development as the first national capital set it apart. Lagos is Nigeria’s metropolis. There are ethnic Igbo people whose entire lives have been spent in Lagos, who have little or no ties to the southeast, who speak Yoruba better than Igbo. Should they, too, be reminded to be ‘grateful’ each time an election draws near?[color=#990000][/color]

No law-abiding Nigerian should be expected to show gratitude for living peacefully in any part of Nigeria. Landlords in Lagos should not, as still happens too often, be able to refuse to rent their property to Igbo people.

The Oba’s words were disturbing, but its context is even more disturbing:

The anti-Igbo rhetoric that has been part of the political discourse since the presidential election results. Accusatory and derogatory language – using words like ‘brainwashed,’ ‘tribalistic voting’ – has been used to describe President Jonathan’s overwhelming win in the southeast. All democracies have regions that vote in large numbers for one side, and even though parts of Northern Nigeria showed voting patterns similar to the Southeast, the opprobrium has been reserved for the Southeast.

But the rhetoric is about more than mere voting. It is really about citizenship. To be so entitled as to question the legitimacy of a people’s choice in a democratic election is not only a sign of disrespect but is also a questioning of the full citizenship of those people.

What does it mean to be a Nigerian citizen?
When Igbo people are urged to be ‘grateful’ for being in Lagos, do they somehow have less of a right as citizens to live where they live? Every Nigerian should be able to live in any part of Nigeria. The only expectation for a Nigerian citizen living in any part of Nigeria is to be law-abiding. Not to be ‘grateful.’ Not to be expected to pay back some sort of unspoken favour by toeing a particular political line. Nigerian citizens can vote for whomever they choose, and should never be expected to justify or apologize for their choice.
Only by feeling a collective sense of ownership of Nigeria can we start to forge a nation. A nation is an idea. Nigeria is still in progress. To make this a nation, we must collectively agree on what citizenship means: all Nigerians must matter equally.

Source:
www.olisa.tv/2015/04/10/chimamanda-adichieoba-lagos/

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#BabaWhileYouAreThere let Mr Clueless and Mrs Barren know that stealing is corruption



Barcanista count my teeth

I suppose this 'Mrs Barren' was meant to be funny right?

Please think twice before you hit send. There are some things and values we hold dear no matter which part of the divide you are.

To call a mother 'Mrs Barren' is a low point my dear, there is no excuse morally or politically.

lastpage:
How can the Nigerian Military abdicate their RESPONSIBILITY and PROMISE to Nigerians, to PROTECT THEM during this election and claiming they have the Security under control............... when infact they have turned themselves into ELECTION RIGGERS AND ABETTORS FOR PRESIDENT JONATHAN AND PD.Pigs?
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RIP to the dead.... and SHAME ON THE NIGERIAN ARMY ESPECIALLY, YOU FAILED WOEFULLY!![/size]


Lastpage!

WHEN YOUR APC PEOPLE GOT JUDGEMENT RESTRAINING ARMY FROM PROTECTING PEOPLE DURING THE ELECTIONS, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

YOU THOUGHT ITS ONLY PDP PEOPLE THAT WILL DIE?

FOR ME, APC IS VIOLENT IN RIVERS STATE.....AND ITS because OF THE LION HEARTED AMAECHI LEADING THEM.

ARE PEOPLE BEING KILLED IN LAGOS AND OTHER APC STATES? FOOD FOR THOUGHT

oakson:
PDP WHY?
and ur boss said his ambition doesn't worth the blood of any Nigerian. Is this lifeless body that of a congolese?
#iDonSweep
Sai Buhari

RIP TO THE DEAD

But our youths will never learn. these youths, were they killed in their parent's houses?
why wont people follow the path of peace? always feeling 'infallible'

I remember in my campus days, my lecturer will tell us that 'cultists rarely target or kill yeomen', if you were wounded in a cult clash....its either you are an active participant or at least a member.

All the same...RIP to the dead once again!

Is BUHARI worth dying for?

na lie.....

ricki:
Ok it is a bit too much. But the best way to avoid been ripoff is to do-it-yasef or manage the project ursef. I did eventually and learnt alot

how do you do this if you dont have previous experience. or do you think a novice can just hire bricklayers and start a building

@Ricki, I hope you know this is just the cost of labour?

or are you saying labour cost in Lagos will be up to N8M

Lol Vickzie...bro pls break it down to our level.

Are you saying DPC is German floor level?

I guess the op is confused on the first 2 levels though

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God's blessings to every conqueror in the house.

Its been long i'be been MIA and by His grace i'm back. I ask God for the grace to fight this battle and come out victorious. It hasnt been easy but God is faithful.

I hope there are old members that will still remember me here.

Good Morning all Glorious Conquerors in the house!

I've been MIA for a few days here due to tight work schedule.

I want to greet you all before I go back to read up.

And my advise to all 'mothers of nations' here...especially newly weds, always be helpful and loving to your DH like the one below

And again I say RELAX! God is at work!

Oh my God...Happy Birthday Goldenbaby nwanne mmadu...!

The lines are falling unto you in pleasant places. Psalm 16:6

The blue - eyed cuties are on their way........

Happy new year to everyone!

Count your blessings of 2013...and you will have many reasons to say - GOD IS SO GOOD!

You can sing, dance, jump, shout....do it right now!

Bishop Oyedepo said last night 'Until your thanks for the past is received, you are not qualified for the next!

#BETHANKFUL

.....lest I forget, on whose door is that boy knocking on?

....and someone please help me explain what breadfruit(ukwa) stands for in the dream.

she woke up this morning and said she was vomitting breadfruit all through the night.

after vomitting the breadfruit, she now started vomitting mouthfuls of saliva....she said the saliva pouring out was uncontrollable to a point that she went out to bank and the thing was gushing out staining her clothes even when she was trying so hard to save herself the embarrassment.....

Any insights on this?

@All...Good morning! We just arrived the East around 10pm....like 2hrs ago! We thank God for Journey mercies and that Mountain top experience!

Let me apologise before - hand because this post may be long!

I want to thank this Good Lord for yesterday's service! I know God worked on our case.

Me and DW came late to CCT yesterday despite the fact that we arrived Lagos the previous day. We stepped into the tabernacle a few minutes past 10am when they were praying. i was surprised when Servant Vic started deliverance after just 2 prayer points and i was like so they have preached and all that.....meanwhile, as soon as we came in, DW complained that she was feeling hot and also like throwing up, but i didnt look her side cos she contributed to our lateness....I just told her to go outside on her own and get fresh air....I didnt want to further miss any part of the service again.

I was surprised to see her in pains when I went outside to check on her later, looking at the ground....i noticed she has been vomitting. I guess Servant Vic noticed us outside and came to say I should leave her to vomit cos that's why she came.

It was at this point that my mind went to a mail God's Sent wrote to me middle of this month in which she prophesied that DW will vomit....Below is a few lines of the mail:

"and she should be praying, cos after deliverance she need to help her self by
>> praying by destroying any ungodly medicine, food eating both
>> spiritually or physically that is in her stomach. if not that the
>> tempter devil wanted to discourage her by making her not to be focus
>> when she went for CCT deliverance, she would have vomit so many
>> substances in that deliverance ground, but it is not late since you
>> people still...."

Its all the more baffling to me cos after the stomach pains of last month, the only time she has mentioned of pain again was just that morning as we were preparing for the deliverance service. Immediately after vomitting Servant Vic gave her the holy water....and she was feeling sleepy all through the rest of the service (Lol).

Now, ask me why we came late? We chose to stay in a hotel in Lagos after she complained of the one we used in Sango last month. Early that morning, she woke me up around 5.30am so we can prepare. We discovered there was no water (much to my surprise for a hotel of that calibre) and when it eventually came she took her bath before me. After my bath, i met her lying down watching tv & before i could open my mouth she said her stomach was paining her. When i was ready i didnt say anything, i was just looking at her praying that she will feel better.

Next thing she said i shouldnt look at her, i should go sort out our return ticket at the ABC office just beside the hotel. As i tried to remind her...she cut me short by threatening that she wont go again if i remain in that room. I quietly picked my bible and went downstairs. 15minutes later she came to the ABC office and i was not through yet, she dint wait 2mins and wat i heard was 'youre wasting time - i'm off''. that was it - she headed off to Sango. When i finished at the ABC office i was upset and i went back to the hotel, lo and behold she has gone with the room key....it was a stroke of luck that we met in the same bus at Oshodi and Lol...we dint talk from Oshodi to Tollgate (i was forming anger ....moreover i stood all thru in the Bus).

Now you see why i was surprised & thankful, cos the enemy almost stopped us that yesterday..... I thank God we were in the Revival session. God is at work and i know he will perfect what he has started.

Again I sincerely apologize for this very long post.

@Santagelo..thanks for posting yesterday's message that i missed.
@Uteh...yes i was the 'big man' in brown. But am i really that big?
@Jecu...thanks a lot. We're back. Pls can I ask Visitor30 for your PIN? Yesterday was something else especially the revival...I still dont believe i was the person doing all that 'MFM' shouting.
@Freechild & Chichi...I was sitting with you guys and i dint know, but something kept telling me...these are Conquerors
@Nic1...Congrats my sister....you are about to be announced.

....**storms in humming d song*** Lord you are so good, blessed be your name (2x), In heaven you are the Lorrd..on earth you reigneth for ever, O lord how great thou art...Blessed be your name!

Oh i wanted to type how the deliverance went today...but the light is gone and i will be on the road tomorrow...Oh my God...its well....we talk later

Shout out to all the Great Conquerors that were there today....Floxxi, FreeChild, Chichi, Uteh, Jecu, Nic1, Stringelo, Shynna112 etc

...and i'm still wondering why almost everyone here is fair - complexioned in real life

Exceeding Grace to everyone

thanks bro...but sorry ooo, which camera phone u dey use?

Sagem x30 abi nokuya3310? i would have enjoyed the picx but for there sharpness...

Oh, i thought i should add this:

For the guys that have not been paid, are you sure that your employers submitted your timesheet on time?

Remember, he may print it and forget to sign, or sign and forget to scan etc....

I always advise you guys to make it your responsibility to follow up until he scans and sends it monthly before the usual 5th deadline.

If he sends it after 5th, you will still be paid, but definitely not when others are being paid!

I kinda understand how this thing works....see d location of the time sheet (i hope it opens) https://gis-tool.wyesurep.gov.ng/FilesDisplay

ahaa lest i forget...i came to look for someone that is interested in doing this programme in Aba. An employer needs an intern

A merry Xmas to all MTCs (more than Conquerors) in the house!

I urge everyone to RELAX...as Elder Moses adviced 'stand still & see...'

God is about doing something that will make you 'dance in joy'

Mark my word - it will end in Praise!

I love you all!

@JECU...Ameen, we will pray tomorrow.

Compliments of the season wonderful Conquerors!

As we have started the fasting, our strength will not fail IJN.

I have learnt 2 things on this thread which I want to remind us about cos it will help us during this fasting:

1. That the Holy spirit strengthens you during fasting and prayers. God used JECU (is it pronounced JEKU or JESU?) to open my eyes to this truth that the HOLY SPIRIT is your friend and as such there is no limit to what you can ask him to do for you. So if you feel specially hungry during this period...you can ask Him to nourish and strengthen you; if you are even too weak to pray out...He can add words to your thoughts and groans to convert it to answerable prayers.

2. I also learnt here that ANGER (and PROVOCATION) is one major tool the devil use to rob us of our blessings especially in times like this when he sees good things coming ahead. God's Sent opened my eyes to this recently and I am a living witness that Anger as a tool works well for the enemy.

In 1sam 1:6-7, Hannah was provoked...every time she came to worship (fast & pray) at Shiloh...it happened year after year! My brethren, let us be wary of the devises of the enemy...whatever happens, refuse to be provoked!

@Visitor30...broos where are you? @Goldenbaby...will you pass Aba while in the East? @All...its our set time, its our season of visitation!

...And now that they have finally paid....none of you can come in here to break the gud news

una don get alert come tighten up ....God dey watch una oooo

All the same...its a good one...THUMBS UP SURE-P & GIS

Click Like if you think GEJ's response was satisfactory!

Click like if you think OBJ is the winner!

how much is the pay?

***walks in singing***Come bless da Lord...all ye servants of da Lord...who STAND BY NITE...in da house of da Lord...lift up your hands....in da HOLY place...Come bless da Lord....Come bless da Lord!

@All Glorious Conquerors in da house, YOU ARE ALL BLESSED! God has not finished with us. He is still in the business of Healing, Delivering, blessing and doing so many other miraculous things for his children.

Let us all be steadfast in Prayers and Thanksgiving.....I hear the SOUND OF RAIN.....Lets go PRAY TONIGHT!

***walking out still singing*** God is....a miracle worker...God is a glorious Goood.....

i am on a paid job but i am considering leaving to start business.

i plan to visit china next year. i have a passport but has never travelled before.

someone told me to get chinese visa for my virgin passport is near impossible or better still i should keep N450,000 ang go through agents!

is there no way i can process the visa cheaper maybe via the normal process even if it takes a while?

please advise me on china visa application. dos and donts. pros and cons.