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Mr Troll: In those days. . .

Waiting for Stryk to confirm.

[quote author=toba.]Now you guys can now see im a prophet and an elder.

what an elder sees whilst sitting, a kid cant see whilst standing.

Jah be praised[/quote]Lmao.

Mr Troll: He cannot provide evidence for his own version of god yet he expects to be taken seriously. Smh
how exactly should we go about seeking him? Kneel and close eyes? Sit cross legged and face East?

Is this the best you can do Italo?"talk to him in humility"
did you prove to us that its a 'he' and not a 'she' or 'it' or 'them'?

I wonder if he had an er3ction when he made Eve

Mr Troll: chai! How long Abidjan ban you my guy?


But sha. . .

Hehehe.. Good memories..

Ishilove: Everyone don hala taya, yet status quo remains

So if I say make waka go protest for National Assembly, u go just siddon for house dey drink akamu?

Mintayo: lol...mosquito...three in one!

Trinity things..

obadiah777: well this is not a democracy. try speaking the truth in iraq. you may just get decapitated with a blunt knife

Lmao..

Okay no more trolling.. This account should be dead as soon as muskeeto serves his ban..

Shallat to ManMustwac and Mr Troll.

[quote author=toba.]3rd account? smh. you're really a troll[/quote]And you're a toad.

Ajiban, pls don't ban this,, it's my born again account... Old things have passed away...

texanomaly: OMGeez...musKeeto...sometimes I think you just like confrontation...smh and smiling.

Texa, long time :*

Yes o... My troll account

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manmustwac: obadiah has done it, anony has done it, Hisblud haa done it, vedaxcool has done it, logicboy has done it, so i dont. See why u should need permission to do it

Am I ever going to get an apology from you on this thread?
https://www.nairaland.com/1383448/genetic-adam-eve-chromosome-study#17216527

GeneralShepherd: The average nairaland religious section atheist is obsessed with christianity.

I know Santa-claus does not exist do I wake up everyday harping my nephews and nieces about the non-existence of Santa? No!!!

Is it possible for an Atheist to have a meaningful conversation without mentioning God?

They deny him, yet he's placed a burden upon them.

Evil Brain: It seems that the Christians are taking this to mean that science is somehow confirming the biblical Adam and Eve myth. This couldn't be farther from the truth.

Chirsitianity is not even mentioned once in the OP. The rest of your rant is therefore irrelevant and an unnecessary attack on Christianity.

manmustwac: Your source. Is not the huffington post as stated in your link its the HUFFPOST which is a blog

Your bias against Christians is quite glaring. I'm beggining to feel there's an agenda against Christianity on this site. Do me a favour and check the homepage of the link to confirm its authencity.

From Wikipedia:
The Huffington Post (sometimes abbreviated Huff Post or HuffPo) is an online news aggregator and blog founded by Arianna Huffington, Kenneth Lerer, Andrew Breitbart,[2][3] and Jonah Peretti, featuring columnists.[4] The site offers news, blogs, and original content and covers politics, business, entertainment, environment, technology, popular media, lifestyle, culture, comedy, healthy living, women's interests, and local news.

It''s also a tad suspicious you didn't notice this athiest's was linked to the same site: https://www.nairaland.com/1383288/cross-jesus-found-desperate-religion

I have reservations about your moderator skills on this board and only hope the management can step in and resolve this issue. You lack the transparency, integrity and honesty required to be moderator of any section, let alone the religious one.

Source: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/genetic-adam-eve-chromosome-men-man_n_3691084.html

Almost every man alive can trace his origins to one man who lived about 135,000 years ago, new research suggests. And that ancient man likely shared the planet with the mother of all women.

The findings, detailed today (Aug. 1) in the journal Science, come from the most complete analysis of the male sex chromosome, or the Y chromosome, to date. The results overturn earlier research, which suggested that men's most recent common ancestor lived just 50,000 to 60,000 years ago.

Despite their overlap in time, ancient "Adam" and ancient "Eve" probably didn't even live near each other, let alone mate. [The 10 Biggest Mysteries of the First Humans]

"Those two people didn't know each other," said Melissa Wilson Sayres, a geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study.

Tracing history

Researchers believe that modern humans left Africa between 60,000 and 200,000 years ago, and that the mother of all women likely emerged from East Africa. But beyond that, the details get fuzzy.

The Y chromosome is passed down identically from father to son, so mutations, or point changes, in the male sex chromosome can trace the male line back to the father of all humans. By contrast, DNA from the mitochondria, the energy powerhouse of the cell, is carried inside the egg, so only women pass it on to their children. The DNA hidden inside mitochondria, therefore, can reveal the maternal lineage to an ancient Eve.

But over time, the male chromosome gets bloated with duplicated, jumbled-up stretches of DNA, said study co-author Carlos Bustamante, a geneticist at Stanford University in California. As a result, piecing together fragments of DNA from gene sequencing was like trying to assemble a puzzle without the image on the box top, making thorough analysis difficult.

Y chromosome

Bustamante and his colleagues assembled a much bigger piece of the puzzle by sequencing the entire genome of the Y chromosome for 69 men from seven global populations, from African San Bushmen to the Yakut of Siberia.

By assuming a mutation rate anchored to archaeological events (such as the migration of people across the Bering Strait), the team concluded that all males in their global sample shared a single male ancestor in Africa roughly 125,000 to 156,000 years ago.

In addition, mitochondrial DNA from the men, as well as similar samples from 24 women, revealed that all women on the planet trace back to a mitochondrial Eve, who lived in Africa between 99,000 and 148,000 years ago — almost the same time period during which the Y-chromosome Adam lived.

More ancient Adam

But the results, though fascinating, are just part of the story, said Michael Hammer, an evolutionary geneticist at the University of Arizona who was not involved in the study.

A separate study in the same issue of the journal Science found that men shared a common ancestor between 180,000 and 200,000 years ago.

And in a study detailed in March in the American Journal of Human Genetics, Hammer's group showed that several men in Africa have unique, divergent Y chromosomes that trace back to an even more ancient man who lived between 237,000 and 581,000 years ago. [Unraveling the Human Genome: 6 Molecular Milestones]

"It doesn't even fit on the family tree that the Bustamante lab has constructed — It's older," Hammer told LiveScience.

Gene studies always rely on a sample of DNA and, therefore, provide an incomplete picture of human history. For instance, Hammer's group sampled a different group of men than Bustamante's lab did, leading to different estimates of how old common ancestors really are.

Adam and Eve?

These primeval people aren't parallel to the biblical Adam and Eve. They weren't the first modern humans on the planet, but instead just the two out of thousands of people alive at the time with unbroken male or female lineages that continue on today.

The rest of the human genome contains tiny snippets of DNA from many other ancestors — they just don't show up in mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, Hammer said. (For instance, if an ancient woman had only sons, then her mitochondrial DNA would disappear, even though the son would pass on a quarter of her DNA via the rest of his genome.)

As a follow-up, Bustamante's lab is sequencing Y chromosomes from nearly 2,000 other men. Those data could help pinpoint precisely where in Africa these ancient humans lived.

"It's very exciting," Wilson Sayres told LiveScience. "As we get more populations across the world, we can start to understand exactly where we came from physically."

Follow Tia Ghose on Twitterand Google+. Follow LiveScience @livescience, Facebook & Google+. Original article on LiveScience.com.

Uyi Iredia: @ OP: Please give a concise definition of the Holy Ghost. Do you think the Holy Ghost is absolutely necessary to believe in God ? Finally, what do you think of a proposal that what Christians term the Holy Ghost is in fact, the mind of an individual.

Good day Uyi,

First off, I'd like to commend you for the manner in which you have laid out these points.

Give me a short time to respond to your posts as best as I can.

Yooguyz: wow! "what christians term the holyghost is in fact, the mind of an individual" i don't know why, but comments like this irritate me, they usually from people who claim to itellectuals, but yet they don't know anything. People who claim to be sensible but yet they can even use a simply common sense.
If prophet T.B.Joshua were speaking his mind under the guise of the holy ghost, then that means his mind is "made of Gold."
keep deluding yourself Uyi Iredia sooner or later your delusions will start catching up with you. Mtcheeew.

This is no way to reply an honest question. It seems the tension within this section gets to everyone; most seem eager for a fight.

A story definitely misunderstood. It has nothing to do with the Gospel and shouldn't be taken as such.

Joagbaje: The bible gave the reason.

Psalms 14:1
1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works,
there is none that doeth good.]

Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

This should suffice.

glb2012: @ muskeeto....r u gay

As gay as your father..
If I defend the rights of the disabled, does that make me disable?

kimco: your explanation failed to account for the context in which you made that statement

Sorry, I didn't quite get you..

Segeggs: he will also change your views on murderers, rapists, cultists, ritualists, child marriage etc.

I haven't been following the news as much as I want to, but going through one of the threads on NL concerning the Pope's statement, I think this was his statement...
If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them?

Bro Segeggs, do you believe that the Lord loves the murderers, rapists and cultists as well as he loves the fornicators, homosexuals and liars? Are not all sins equal before the eyes of the Lord?

Segeggs: Dont you see what the man his trying to do? He is trying to bring all cultures, all people from different perverted together under an umbrella of the NWO.

I do not quite agree. The Pope's statement is a much needed admonition that all Africans would do well to dwell upon. Jesus Christ would never have supported homophobia.

Segeggs: Homosexualism was unheard of in africa, now due to numerous campaigns abroad africans have start to imbibe the idea.

An irrelevant point, as homosexuality has always been present in the human race, though a lot has been done to silence it. It's even recorded in the Old Testament.

Segeggs: Anybody can judge the homosexuals so long you judge right. For him to have stylishly excused himself shows he is not of YHWH but of the devil.

The devil's job is to instigate hatred and rumor-mongering, not appeal for love and brotherhood.

We await the remainder of the story, my dear AS.
Good morning.

D sage: Materialism starts with a conscious mind. God is the immaterial cause for consciousness and I can't bring it to you any more you can bring the scientific method to me.
SMHWLOL.


I've said this several times, they won't just agree with you. There are some certain things that beyond scientific explanation or humans understanding, e.g 'consciousness'.

Honestly i don't know why you're dragging it this far. The earlier you people (atheists) realize that consciousness is immaterial cause of living or existence,the better.

And you know this how? Can you remember being born? Have you experienced death?

Alfa Seltzer: SMH? Should I laugh or cry at a christian brain? Wishing me the same destiny as your god. Thanks be to Satan, I and I will never carry no cross.

It's our destiny, he did it to show a perfect example to us. Cry and laugh at my Christian brain when Satanism shakes the world like Christianity has done. The attention you seek, a craving for the divine, the pure, the selfless Prince of Peace. He's waiting, young man.