₦airaland Forum

TMKsouth:
Will come back to u on this one later, I've answered it a million times before - it's gonna take the while day. Remind me that I owe u this one.

In the meantime chew on this other debate I had - (I think infrastructurally u know we wear the diamond crown - you can question me in other areas not covered below).

Ok impressive but I could only single out 5 strong points and they are points 1, 7, 8, 10 and 12. The rest do not have enough punch to be counted. Examples are like the lack of retaliation for xenophobia. What retaliation were you expecting outside the destruction of South African businesses in Nigeria? Do you expect Nigerians to attack you consulate and the South Africans there? You can't expect the Nigerian government to lash out on your country because your government has not claimed to support the xenophobia done by her misguided citizens. Other weak points like saying that Nigeria rules in the music industry but most of her best production comes from South Africa is not a point. In fact, the point should go to Nigeria. Is it the various political positions South Africans managed to get on the continent recently that you even count as points? I could so many political positions Nigeria have occupied in Africa that will dwarf those you listed. If you must list a point based on contested official position, let it be based on intellectual success or talent of the person involved. We all know Black Mambazo and their achievements. This is what a point should be.
I agree that South Africa's infrastructure could be the best in Africa but we all know it's not entirely/ not even 50% done by black South Africans but I'll still count it for you. So, only 6 points is what you have now. I'll have to bring my own points to counter them. Let me google them because I'm not usually into this sort of competition. Will be back before evening.

Lionessza6:
Irongalaxy, come and see. This is what I was talking. They think the brain drain is something to brag about . South African best brains are in South Africa making their country a better one,while theirs are busy helping build other people's countries

Who doesn't know about the dangers of brain drain? Are some of your professionals not leaving your country currently for better pay elsewhere? Do I have to provide proof of such from google?
It's not bragging when I state the obvious that when it comes to intellectual capacity, Nigeria is rated ahead of South Africa. This is what my reference to our intelligent ones leaving the country and doing very well outside goes towards. Do not use the shitty nature of Nigeria currently to judge the average Nigerian because there's something fundamentally wrong with our politics. A lot of our young people just realized it starting from last year. We will solve that problem and emerge better and stronger and you won't have anything to use against us anymore.

TMKsouth:
Some media are still trying to figure out what really happened - if it really was stolen coz we all understand the severity of the situation if indeed it was crime related. But for now the official statement is that it was not.

SA doesn't hide the truth, so no need to cut off the broadcast because it makes the President look bad.

Ok. That will be good if it wasn't crime related.

TMKsouth:
Okay, will read up on the old Sudan.

Today's problems in SA are the after effects of the Zuma years - so it's not surprising. Most of us always knew there was hidden rot and that's why he had to go. They spent a lot of money to hide the truth, such as spending too much on the already expensive alternative of using diesel to keep the lights on, instead of cheap coal and maintaining the infrastructure. The current administration says that's unsustainable and carrying out long overdue maintenance, that's why there are power cuts.

Zuma kept bailing out failing state enterprises but only for the purposes of patronage. That has been stopped and there's now restructuring, that's why things look like they are going down coz u don't see SAA flying anymore. But SAA was a drain on the fiscus that only benefited Zuma and his girlfriend, and the Gupta's. So we're saving money while partly privatizing the airline.

We are on a recovery path and shutting down the gravy train - the worst is behind us.

Ok. I really hope you're right because South Africa can't afford to go down like Nigeria has done. You guys can't survive half of what Nigerians have been surviving. Here we are survivors. (It's not funny o)
I see that some of your politicians are suggesting you take the Zimbabwean route? Do you agree with it seeing how it affected Zimbabwe?

TMKsouth:
U can't fool me - you know u complain about Igbos in Nigeria as well.

Also don't fool yourself, you know SA is unmatched in Africa. I know u gonna tell me bout small island nations - like really?!

The complain about Igbos are mostly blown out of proportion. You may not understand but if you can ask a less biased person about them, you'll get a much better remark. It's not my intention to fool you. Just stating the truth.
Now let's get some understanding here about your claims on South Africa. In what area are you guys unmatched in Africa? State them clearly let me respond accordingly.

TMKsouth:
You the one who's not thinking. Do you think a president intent on attracting investment, at the unveiling of a new company, will publicly prove that crime is indeed a problem in SA? He's just clearly making small talk until his device is brought him. He's clearly joking and the audience knows it, hence the chuckling in the background. Don't be misled by the news headlines - this is just a light-hearted news piece for the media.

Clearly u haven't watched the video.

It's good to try and save face but the countenance of the president is anything other than someone trying to catch some fun. If in truth he was so good as to perfect the act while joking, then that would be insensitive of him to joke with such a crime at such a crucial gathering.
The deed has been done and all must learn from it. The TV crew should at least have muted it until the coast is clear. I didn't find it funny at all. Who knows what might have been done to the device in the brief moments of its disappearance? Most likely, it has been compromised and should be changed.

TMKsouth:
I'm talking politically. You see how we not even on the same page.

Ok. Politically, we've done very badly and I must concede that currently you guys are doing better than us but make no mistake, we will get it right and our true potential will come out for all to see. However, South Africa seems to be sliding down the doldrums and if care isn't taken, you may find yourselves trapped in the very mess we've entangled ourselves (God forbid).
If you want to understand the Nigerian political quagmire, you may have to study the history and politics of the old Sudan. That's the closest to the Nigerian politics you can ever find. Our problem is a very long one and for the first time, young Nigerians especially from the South are beginning to understand the real enormity of our problem. It's not a funny matter.

IronGalaxy:
Your leaders are Nigerians and they respresnt your collective psyche.

It may appear so but it isn't so in truth. I don't expect you to believe though. The Nigerian problem is that the good ones are never allowed to get to positions of influence. This is why many of them move out to go and display their capability in other serious countries. This is why there are more successful Nigerians outside than South Africans outside. Nigerians occupy more highly valued positions than South Africans outside Africa. Don't use our politicians to rate the average Nigerian. We will sort this out very soon.

TMKsouth:
Typically Nigerian! Did u miss the part where he insulted me first?

"what kind of slapdash shitshow security agency una dey run dere"

Just as you ignore all the nonsense and chaos caused by your brothers in SA and when we retaliate you cry xenophobia.

You've met your match in South Africans my guy, we don't back down from a good fight - not that you're even our match.

You're not a match. Not even close.
There's no fight here just chit-chat with some high times. When a good fight starts, you'll realize that you're not a match.

Lionessza6:
LMFAO, I know ,you'd swear they run that league. One thing I noticed about them is that they're good at working at ready made platforms ,they don't want to sweat to build their own. Notice how they brag about their doctors and professors in diaspora , yet their own Universities are total shytholes and their hospitals are dilapidated . All their hard work goes into building other societies not theirs ,and some idiots actually think this is something to be proud of .

See as you just dey run your mouth any how. Better face topic and leave matter for Mathias.

TMKsouth:
Even the south of Nigeria (south-south, south-east, etc). South-east Nigeria sells drugs in South Africa.

Funny how South Africa is the BEST part of Africa - beats Nigeria 10-0

The must have learnt it from you guys and no, South Africa is not the best part of Africa.

TMKsouth:
We can both agree it's an overwhelming majority.

You should be glad he's taking it easy with you. SA is not a favourite destination for Nigerians. I don't expect you to believe it though.

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thebosstrevor1:
See the only igbos that support biafra are the unemployed igbos both home and abroad.

The igbos benefiting from Nigeria might have a grudge about the biafra war but he will never support that he or she leaves Nigeria where things are working for him or her.

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thebosstrevor1:
Many igbos are enjoying Nigeria, the ones trading everywhere in Nigeria without harrassment and making huge money everyday are enjoying Nigeria.

The igbos moving from south east to go work in various cities and towns are enjoying Nigeria.

If biafra becomes a reality, then these people will lose their jobs and business because they will seen as foreigners.

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thebosstrevor1:
So you concluded online that about 98% of igbos wants biafra, where did you get your statistics from.

If biafra will be better than so called fulani ridden Nigeria, why is the south east not developed now, why isn't the south east just like canada or Germany.

The most hilarious thing is that after the so called biafra, this same biafrans will be the ones running to Nigeria and other countries crying for asylum.

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Monogamy:
There is nothing like Southern Unity to start with but op, you are not in any position to remind us that.

Face your North

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thebosstrevor1:
Igbos are saving others from what exactly

Its like you are suffering from messiah complex here.

Between no middlebelt man will want to live in a biafra republic.

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thebosstrevor1:
You can rant as you like.

Every tribe will bring their demand, the one that is able to play the game will win while you keep shouting on nairaland southern unity.

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thebosstrevor1:
The only people crying southern unity are the South easterners on this site and the only reason they are shouting southern unity is because they want every one to support their terrorist group called Ipob.

They cry southern unity when they want support but not when they are enjoying the national cake as the last administration showed. When the south east were busy getting ministerial positions and juicy contracts, did you hear them shout southern unity in sharing the national cake? No

Every tribe all over Nigeria whether south or east , north should be able to fight for their own interest, shouting this unity and that unity is a waste of time, nonbody remembers you when they get a bite of the national cake, they will take everything and you will feel betrayed.

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Hopefully the Baale will be rescued alive. Amotekun and the hunters will liaise to do the job. You will never see the Nigerian Army or police hear because it's the indigenous people that are at the receiving end. Is it not in this same Oyo state that three men where arrested for shooting cows which trespassed into their farmlands?
Where are southerners in the upper and lower chambers of the legislature?

The fulanis will always call all the over 200 tribes in the NW, NE and NC Arewa but will become jittery when the few tribes in southern Nigeria decides to bond together and fight a common cause. Why is it so? The reason is simply that the day the whole South decides to face the fulani head on, they would lose woefully. This is why many fulanis will pretend to be different tribes from the South on NL to discourage any bonding in the South. Expect more of them to come up with numerous threads specifically to condemn the a solid southern front.
The issue is that the South doesn't know the advantage we have. If we knew, fulanis won't even attempt the rubbish they're doing currently. Southern Nigeria is a 17 block states uncontestable. If we reach out to Middle belt states like Benue, Taraba, Kogi(minus some areas), Plateau, parts of Nasarawa and southern Kaduna, we would surely control Nigeria and dictate the pace. This is the fulanis' worst nightmare. They will do all they can to prevent it.
Southerners on NL must not fall for the BMCs writing and replying themselves just to suck us in. We must be quick to identify their schemes and derail or ignore those threads.

obehi247:
I still wonder how you take out time to write emotional rubbish. You should be given an award for everything negative

If busting your lies equates to being emotional then I'm proudly emotional. Awards are only meant to promote good things and we deserve it for exposing all the evil tricks of your terrorist people who delight in sucking the blood of peaceful people. IPOB has been vindicated. They called us crazy when we raised alarm of an impending subjugation but today everyone has agreed that the plan is real. Just you wait for the response. Don't cry when the resistance gets out of control.

ivolt:
Too many hate-filled bigots.

Let us see if what I wrote is the reality or if I was wrong.

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Monogamy:
You can no longer silence anyone on NL..

Even a new member can report you and get you banned as mods won't hesitate to click the wiping button.

Lowest ranking members on NL acting same way

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I've never seen the type of humans we have in Nigeria. Anywhere half of what happens in Nigeria happens, they would have revolted. South Sudan revolted and fought for 50yrs before their independence was granted. If the indigenous tribes of Nigeria should band together and face fulanis, they won't even withstand one year of brutal onslaught but what do we see at present? They are pussy.footing. UN will not come to save anyone unless you've proved yourself to fight back.

inspector2021:
The likes of Biafran4life and his fellow IPOB gang on Nairaland will soon be paraded. As they have become persons of interest to security agencies. They will be tracked down from UYO to Kaduna to Abuja to orlu.

You too will be tracked and neutralized. You demise will be announced here terrorist.

Very nice. Everyone including the super rich will be affected.
You will think this move is in any way designed to help everyone but that is never the case. Their targets are southerners and Christians that own private jets. They want to either ground you all or organize for you to crash. Take note of everything written here because it will happen. Those of you who are super rich and hence think you can't be affected should think again. The fulani led government will treat you in the language you'll understand.

obehi247:
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After reading some of your lengthy write up you not only need sense but education.

Before the 1966 coup, Awolowo was already jailed by the Balewa government because he stole public money and use it to build his prrdpers private estate and also, after loosing the presidential or head of govt election, he wanted Samuel Akintola to step down for his to become premier of the western region.

"Yorubas were effectively divided with internal destruction that was culminated into the popular wild wild west nomenclature of the region" funny what about Isaac boro and Niger Delta republic in the Eastern region.

An intervention was desperately needed and there's no where such intervention could have come if not from one of the Big 3s. It's on record that people all over rejoiced when the news of the coup filtered through. It was only the igbos of the Eastern region that rejoiced and it is also on record that Nnuadi Azkiwe said "the gods of the Igbo have destiny the igbos to rule over Nigeria and all of Africa" and it is only the igbos of the southern nigeria that have the duty to intervene for the other region that makes up the southern Nigeria.

Igbo men who were visionary enough have always stuck out their heads to save others but what we always get in return is false accusations based on unfounded fear of Igbo domination and the igbos are till this very day not visionary enough to achieve Biafra

The greedy nature of the igbos people have caused and still causing the problem of Nigeria even anioma and ikwere people don't want anything to do with the igbos

In the 60s the Eastern region was the 5th fastest growing economy in the world and they were in charge of key postiopos in Nigeria but because of greed still wanted more because they know the northern Nigeria was not educated enough.

Me question to you Mr knowth why did the NCNC not form alliance with the AG knowing prior independent the northern Nigeria we're very scared of independent know fully well the southern Nigeria were very educated than them did everything to sabotage independent of Nigeria from the British

In case you don't know southern Nigeria got her independent first before the northern Nigeria and collectively as Nigeria got independent in 1960

You don't history so shut up and learn. You claimed southern Nigeria got independence before the north so show us which year they got independence outside the 1960 we all know. That southern Nigeria was ready for independence in 1957 doesn't mean they actually got it.
The fake history they taught in schools just to demonize Igbos has returned to hunt all those who sanctioned it. Igbos have been removed from national politics now fulanis are out to silence every other tribe who thought they were right to support fulanis. Where is Danjuma today? What about Gowon? Obasanjo will be forced to voice out before he died.
Igbos have never waged any war of conquest against any tribe in recorded history but the fulanis have an entirely different story. Right from 1804 till date, they have been slaughtering indigenous tribes of Nigeria and taking over their lands. These are the set of people Nigerian tribes chose to pitch their tent with. The history is their for all.
I'm glad that reality is facing everyone currently and the mistakes of the past can be corrected but everyone must be willing to pay the price in blood.
May God Bless all freedom lovers.

obehi247:
The past help to guide and control the future.

What happened in our fathers era is the reason the Fulani thinks they own Nigeria.

I have taken time to study the pre and post independent Nigeria and discover our problem and the problem we are facing in Nigeria is caused by the Igbo people of the 60s and this generation are not even sorry of the mistakes of their fathers

No one should waste his time discussing this topic with you. You're a high profile ignorant but arrogant ingrate. No lecture can correct your disjointed sense of history.
Before the 1966 coup, Awolowo was already jailed by the Balewa government and Western Nigeria(Yorubaland) was on the path of total conquest. Samuel Akintola was just a pun without his own knowledge. Yorubas were effectively divided with internal destruction that was culminated into the popular wild wild west nomenclature of the region. An intervention was desperately needed and there's no where such intervention could have come if not from one of the Big 3s. It's on record that people all over rejoiced when the news of the coup filtered through. Looking from the historical perspective, Igbos lost more from that intervention while other tribes that could have been swallowed up by the momentum of Sardauna had a breathing space. They up till date don't regard that intervention as a saving factor for them. Where TIVs not been killed in the 60s? Was the fulani conquest not real during Sardauna's time? Are there no statements credited to him that was explicit enough about his aims? Igbo men who were visionary enough have always stuck out their heads to save others but what we always get in return is false accusations based on unfounded fear of Igbo domination. Look at where it has landed Nigeria. What's the worst thing that Igbos could have done to Nigeria if they were to have led her? Would Nigeria have been this destroyed? Would life have been this valueless in Nigeria? This penchant of hating Igbos because of fear is what fulanis have exploited to the fullest. Of all the countries fulanis had forcefully initiated jihads all over West Africa, there's non they still wield political power but Nigeria because other tribes within those countries cut them down to size. Why is the Nigerian case different? This is what other indigenous tribes of Nigeria should be asking themselves.
IPOB with MNK as her leader have currently done a fantastic job in exposing the fulanis once again. We are currently battling for the survival of other tribes. The least we expect is for those other tribes to join the fulani army in fighting us. They should form their own security and battle the fulani terrorists attacking their lands and give us moral support too. We have been sacrificing a lot for the people of Nigeria.
God Bless IPOB
God Bless MNK.

jaxxy:
Was he Christian?

Yes he was. It's very obvious from the pictures posted where he was with those around him.
Sanga LGA is one of the lgas that make up the popular Southern Kaduna. Their leaders are steadily being wiped out without politicians from the region speaking out. The level of the wickedness in Nigeria is appalling.
May his soul rest in peace and may his killers be slaughtered not long from now.

Terrorists must be expunged from our forests. There's a ban on open grazing and it must be enforced since the culprits refused to obey it.
God Bless ESN
GodBless IPOB
God Bless Biafra

mekaboy:
Is your head guaranteed of tomorrow?

Yes, it is by the grace of the God of justice. I'm fighting for my right and my case is genuine. Nigeria must be divided by any means possible.