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Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 11:35am On Apr 25, 2017 |
teepain: Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"
With the verse above God had foreclosed the permission to add to the scriptures by any so called Apostle, Pastor, Evangelist or 'man of revelations'. The punishment for such crime is expressly stated in the quoted verse.
CC femi4 That is why we have to be careful in explaining the scripture |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 11:20am On Apr 25, 2017 |
kpaofame: That i know but deeper understanding of that scripture about david might mean alot....Because David was goodly yet despised by his family (He was not presented by his Dad when Samuel asked for his sons)etc a typical scenario of treatment meted to children born by mothers not properly married.... He was not presented cos he wasn't built like others. In fact the bible called him a boy. We have to be careful on how we twist the scripture. Samuel's mission was clear, to select a warrior and not a boy. So Jesse had to exclude him |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 11:16am On Apr 25, 2017 |
JACOBJK: what the man of God said is very correct..........we should please make good research into history...... so read my post below so that i can elighten you the more that he was actually born in adultary...........
King David’s big, dark secret
written by Dean Smith]
There was a big, dark secret in David’s life that few people are aware of. It’s not that David tried to keep it secret, but many of us simply fail to connect the dots. When we study David’s life, there are a number of Biblical passages that at first read seem quite puzzling. One such passage is 1 Samuel 16:1-13. God had just rejected Saul as king of Israel and commissioned the prophet Samuel to anoint one of the sons of Jessee of Bethlehem as the next king (v 1). Samuel approached the elders of Bethlehem and arranged the meeting. Once Jessee and his sons had gathered, Samuel quickly realized none of the boys standing before him was the one God had chosen. Puzzled, Samuel asked if there were any other sons and was told the youngest, David, was attending the flock. Samuel ordered David brought before him and anointed the young shepherd boy as the next king of Israel. I was always curious as to why David was not initially included. Traditionally, most believe David was omitted because he was the youngest, but I don’t believe this theory holds up under closer scrutiny of the Biblical account. When Samuel first approached Bethlehem’s elders, the Bible tells us they were “trembling” (v 4). They were terrified of the prophet. When he said jump, the only pertinent question was how high. So when Samuel requested a special meeting with Jessee and his sons, all were expected to show up. There must have been some convincing reason not to extend an invitation to David. Why was David excluded? I believe David actually provides the answer to this question in Psalm 51 penned in the chaotic aftermath of his adulterous affair with Bathsheba. In verse 5, King David wrote: “Behold I was brought forth in iniquity and in sin my mother conceived me.” So what was David trying to tell us in this verse? Traditionally, most believe David was explaining his affair was due to the sin nature that plagues all mankind because of Adam and Eve’s original sin. However, this does not explain why David committed adultery (though all humans have the same sin nature, not all commit adultery). Setting all fancy theological interpretations aside, we need to interpret verse 5 simply as it reads — “in sin my mother conceived me” means exactly what it says — David’s mother conceived him in an act of sin. She committed adultery and David was the byproduct of this infidelity. This explains why David was not initially included in the meeting with Samuel as technically it could be argued David was not a true son of Jessee. However, God did include David as part of Jessee’s family much in the same way Jesus was considered a son of Joseph though conceived by the Holy Spirit. Who was David’s mother? This is where it gets interesting. No where in scripture is David’s mother mentioned by name. This is a bit unusual, as mothers of several ancient prophets and patriarchs are not only mentioned, but many times written about, as they often played a significant role in the upbringing of their children — such as Moses’ mother Jochebed (Exodus 6:20) and Samuel’s mother Hannah (1 Samuel 1:1-20). However, David’s mother was different — as a wife who committed adultery, she brought shame upon Jessee and his family and it’s not surprising her name was excised from the Biblical account. I think the most likely scenario is that David’s mother was a prostitute. It was not uncommon for children born from such an illicit relationship to live with the father. In the book of Judges, we have a story about Jephath who was conceived when his father Gilead had sexual relations with a prostitute. Though conceived through this illicit encounter, Jephath nevertheless grew up in Gilead’s house who took responsibility for raising the child. But Jephath’s arrival created a tremendous tension with the sons born of the true mother. They eventually drove Jephath out of the family to prevent him from receiving any of his father’s inheritance (v 2 ). If David’s mother was also a prostitute it would explain why she wasn’t mentioned and I suspect it was the brothers who pushed not to have David included when Samuel called for a meeting with the sons of Jesse. David’s miserable early life David refers to his mother one more time in Psalm 69 which — next to Psalm 22 — is the most quoted Psalm in the New Testament. It is generally believed Psalm 69 covers David’s early life prior to his anointing by Samuel. In verse 8, David writes: “I have become estranged from my brothers, And an alien to my mother’s sons.” This verse reveals David was ostracized from his own family and was considered an alien or an outcast by his brothers. Notice how David refers to his brothers as his mother’s sons — not his father’s — reflecting they shared the same mother but not the same father. According to Strong’s dictionary, the Hebrew word for estranged “zur” means to “turn one aside from lodging” and can also refer to an individual who has come from “adultery – to come from another man.” In fact, the word is rooted in the Hebrew word “mamzer” which means bastard or illegitimate. Zur intimates David was not included in regular family activities such as meals. In fact this may be what verse 21 suggests when David says they gave me “gall for food” and “vinegar to drink.” It appears the brothers made David’s life miserable. One thing oddly missing in Psalm 69 is any mention of David’s relationship with Jessee. Not once did David point to Jessee as the source of his misery. Neither do we see any hint of conflict when Jessee asked David to take food to his brothers who were fighting the Philistines, but as soon as David showed up at the army camp, you immediately see the animosity between David and his brothers (1 Samuel 17: 28-29). The conflict between David and his half- brothers indicates it may have been the brothers who demanded David not be included in the meeting with Samuel. Psalm 69 also addresses the misery David endured growing up. Because of his mother’s sin, David’s childhood was full of loneliness and rejection. In verse 3, he speaks of hours spent crying because of the rejection (v 3). He explains his frustration of being punished for a sin he did not commit (v 4) – his mother’s sin. Worse, he became the object of mockery as the drunkards sang about his plight (v 26). David’s life also became a byword or proverb — literally a living warning — of what happens to those whose mother commits adultery. What was particularly hurtful was those who “sit at the gate” used him as an example (v 12) of what happens when people sin. The term “sit at the gate” refers to the elders of the city who sat at the gates and made judgment on cases (see Proverbs 31:23; Deut 21:19; 22:15). These would be the same elders of Bethlehem who did not think it necessary to include David when Samuel wanted to meet with Jessee and his sons. David then adds he carried the personal shame of his mother’s sin. No one cared that David was the innocent byproduct of his mother’s sin. It was Jewish belief children could be punished for the sins of the parents. We see a hint of this in the gospels, when the disciples — after stumbling upon on a blind man — asked Jesus if he was being punished for the sins of his parents or his own sins (John 9:2,3). Though despised and rejected by his family and humiliated by those in his home town, God saw David’s heart and how he responded to the rejection and the ugliness that filled his childhood and chose this boy as the next king of Israel . Through this we gain a keen insight in the redemptive nature of God, who will use anyone despite their background and heritage as long as they have a heart for God.// We should be careful of taking literature from internet and believing in them without asking questions. In the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the name "Rahab" mentioned emphatically. It was also stated that she was a harlot in the old testament. I don't think if we have more than one harlot in the genealogy of Jesus Christ, it won't have been stated. 2. How can "In sin my mother conceived me" means my mother wasva harlot and it wasn't referring to our Adam in nature. We have to be careful with the wind of doctrine in this age so that even the elect will not be deceived |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:51am On Apr 25, 2017 |
PianoWizard: you lack knowledge of scriptures I shouldn't trade words with you. Lol......Olodo oshi |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:50am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Sanchez01: He categorically mentioned that David's mother was a harlot in 1:38. All these kids and lack of sense sef  Don't mind them....non of them watch the video before trying to defend him. The video had nothing to do with rahab at all |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:48am On Apr 25, 2017 |
PianoWizard: please have sense
Abraham slept with hagar out of her(sarah) consent,, she approved of it and it was for a reason. Stop displaying your ignorance consent didn't change the fact that she wasn't his wife. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:41am On Apr 25, 2017 |
PianoWizard: Then you do not know the meaning of adultery lol...make I school you small a·dul·ter·y əˈdəlt(ə)rē/ noun voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:39am On Apr 25, 2017 |
PianoWizard: what is adultery ? cheating on your wife or husband.
JV:Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar.
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KJV:And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.
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KJV:And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
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KJV:And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.
Abraham's case was different Sara gave her maid to Abraham because she was barren.
It cannot be counted as sin because there was no law then. The law came through moses. Abraham existed before moses.
Abraham is justified in all ramifications. Is adultery cheating on your wife or sleeping with another woman that isn't your wife? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:37am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Dindondin: Read this link. David had the same mum.like his brothers but there was foul play in the way he was conceived. read the link or read the bible? My reference is the bible. Any thing contrary is nonesense |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:35am On Apr 25, 2017 |
kpaofame: It depends on the explanation one gives or understand from scriptures.....
David once said he was formed or conceived in Sin....It might imply that his mum was not properly married by his dad hence making his conception a sin....
Anyway hope Apostle explain give people he dey preach to what he meant... I cant judge a sermon of 30 minutes or even one hour from a 2 seconds clip We were all conceived from sin. Whether your parent were legally married or not cos we carried the adamic nature |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:28am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Joagbaje: I haven't watched the video. David grandmother was harlot . If the biological mother was harlot also . I have to search on that. please watch the video before your next comment. Biblically, nothing much was said about her and we have to leave it like that and stop adding to the scripture |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:27am On Apr 25, 2017 |
PianoWizard: He wasn't,, she was sarah's maid. Sarah gave haggai to Abraham. And does that make the union valid |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:24am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Joagbaje: David grandmother was Rahab the harlot .
The point of the apostle was on how God can bring beauty out of a man's life no matter your background . If you come to God he will change you. He only use David grandmother Rahab who was a harlot as illustration
Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6 And Salmon begat Boaz of Rachab; and Boaz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; James 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
liar .....I just watch the video and the apostle was referring to the biological mother of David . According to him, David had a different mother from his siblings. Stop trying to defend him....you are not making sense |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 10:20am On Apr 25, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:55am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Joagbaje: Luke 18:38 And he cried out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”
Was Jesus son of David lol.....that was not taking literary. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:49am On Apr 25, 2017 |
tafrica: By JS' preaching, should we stop saying Jesus was given birth to by a virgin but by a harlot? How could he conveniently make David's great grandmother who was even in the lineage of David's father look like David's original mother and concluded David's mother was a harlot?
Wrong analysis and preaching. abi o, no mind am |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:47am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Joagbaje:
Matthew 1:5_6[/b]Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6 and Salmon the father of Boaz by [b]Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, and Jesse the father of David the king. And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah,,
Rahab was a prostitute Is Rahab the wife of Jesse? Keep trying. Rahab gave birth to David's forefather and not David |
Christianity Etc › Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 9:44am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Jacksonville: Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.
It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.
#Mytake revelation no suppose contradict scripture |
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