₦airaland Forum

babaolofin:
I am not joining your discussion with your opponent, but I have an observation to make based on your submission on military strength and rank in Africa. They don't determine the strength or rank of a military of a developing nation by the war loss or defeat but by the numbers of war, the type of military operations, the strength of their opponents during war,, arsenal and weapons and strength of soldiers. You cannot compare a country that fought Israel or US in a war to a country that participated in a peace keeping operations.If Iraq has been defeated in many war that does not make Nigeria that has not fought war stronger than Iraq. The weapons of war, the artillery and experience are what they used to rank nation's military strength.

It would have been better if you kept quiet. Your post doesn't deserve a response.

It is just amazing how semi-literates populate nairaland. Smh.

Egypt should relax. Nigeria represents Africa better that any other country.

I had many north African class mates. Egyptians, and Libyans classmates, and they tell me clearly that Nigeria is No1 in Africa.
Yet, olodos come here to argue. Many of them are cowards and inferior people, lacking in self-esteem.

Princedapace:
hahaahahaahahah! Naija for where Egypt dey with a military rank of 44th in the world? hahahaahaha, Nigerians o!

Oh boy, bring facts.. I will drop more facts for u.

You are an illiterate. Egypt has lost nearly all the wars they have fought. 44th my arse.
Ethiopia beat Egypt twice, Israel twice, Saudi, UK, etc have all defeated Egypt in wars.
Egypt never wins wars , you slowpoke. Argue with your mate.

Odogwunaeast:
Ok. Lets watch and see. For your information Mr Egyptian, Egypt is more corrupt than Nigeria. Do i need to remind you that Sisi runs a dictarorship government. Nobody knows Egypt in africa. In African politics, Egypt is nowhere near Nigeria. Even in global affairs. The federal republic of Nigeria out ranks Egypt in all areas. Unless Buhari is weak. If he plays his card well, you will see what will happen.

See bro. Don't waste you time trying to educate these people. Many nairalanders here, if you see them in real life, you would stab yourself for engaging them.
Just allow them wallow in their conceit.

Egypt does not even stand taller than Ethiopia, let alone Nigeria. Smh.

Princedapace:
Sentiments will destroy Nigerians. Who be Naija for where Egypt dey?

Military wise, Egyptian military is ranked 9th in the world. Highest ranked Arab country and only behind greater super powers, they are working so hard to surpass 5th position.. While Nigeria is ranked 43 behind even Algeria.

check source: https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

Egypt is the most strategic US allies in Africa and middle east in extension! Egypt is way ahead of Nigeria in everything, economic wise, manufacturing, industrialization, dirty international politics when u play politics that deals with Israel, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Russia, u play in another level.

Guy, I have no obligation to convince you. Enjoy your ignorance.

joyandfaith:
independent review of ethics committee report. if review faults ethics committee, it is now left for Afdb board of governors to accept or reject it.

Lol. The report has been accepted. If the review faults it, there will be an amendment to the banks articles that covers "ethics & invesyigation" procedures. That is all. The case is closed, but reviewing the report is just to save the face of uncle sam

Geeoriginal:
The idea here is to save face. An outright turn down of the probe will be a slight on the US, an independent probe will be a slight on African countries. So, a middle ground is a review which will likely come up with a result that the ethics committee report is in order.

Smart guy. They are not investigating Adesina, just reviewing the report. Lol.

Its to save America's face. And I support it. The US is our boss.

AreaFada2:
Stop what. Are you disputing what I wrote. Or you were not born yet by then?
Does Saudi Arabia not treat Nigerian pilgrims anyhow or when do Arabs side with Nigeria when it matters if the religious part is what irks you?

Shut up. If you were worthwhile, I would have educated you. But you aren't. So, stop writing nonsense here. Ignorance smells here. Smh

Cecegracen:
What Egypt is saying is that it is too late to switch to another person. According to them, it is too late to nominate another person. The nomination was clearly stated for November 2019, which was 6 months ago. I think the fault is from the president who sometimes is slow in decision making. They should have allowed the first nominee to continue. Except they are sure we won't be edged out entirely.

The way ignorant and uneducated people profess their mumuness on nairaland is surprising.

Oga, submission of candidates is different from substitution. The deadline is for nomination, not substitution.

Ah ah, semi-literates making noise .

AreaFada2:
Egypt managed to outsmart Nigeria and get Boutrios Boutros Ghalli to become UN Secretary General. I mentioned it in another thread here easier today. Despite Buhari and IBB having joined the Muslim league as observer years earlier. Those religious people Northern Nigeria look up to are our biggest enemies on international stage.

Only Gaddafi was a bit different. And that was because fellow Arab countries frustrated him and he looked towards black Africa for relevance.

Guy, stop writing rubbish. Stop it. Stop.
Nonsense.

Princedapace:
lol, in international politics, Nigeria no near Egypt bro. Seems most of u dont even know how the global power blocks work. Egypt is a major player of the Arab league and the Arab league is extremely influential. Them carry cash. Egypt no be naija mate for anything.

Just that the naija candidate is a key player in the global market. But if na Naija vs egypt matter, Naija is no where near Egypt

Ah ah. Why do ignoramuses like making noise. Nigeria stands taller than Egypt, in Africa and in the world. Stop displaying your ignorance here.

BabaOwen:
Nigeria may lose 24 councils to new UN state

‘Obasanjo, Biya ceded territories in 2003’

By July 10 this year, Nigeria may lose 24 local councils, by way of ceding, to a new country to be known as United Nations Organisation (UNO) State of Cameroon at its borders with la Republique du Cameroun.

The Guardian learnt that the withdrawal of his country’s soldiers by President Paul Biya from the southern part of the planned UNO State of Cameroon has set the stage for the creation of the new state being spearheaded by the UN.

The withdrawal of troops by Biya was formally demanded by the former President of the United Nations General Assembly, Ali A. Treki on May 20, 2020. This was disclosed in a May 26, 2020 letter of the UNO State of Cameroon to Prof. Martins Chia Ateh, the United Nations-appointed workshops coordinator in Cameroon and Nigeria.

Ateh said in the letter: “Greetings and thank you very much for the attached list of those who were detained in the Nkambe prison of Cameroon in August 2008.

“It is only now that the soldiers of la Republique du Cameroun are being withdrawn from the southern part of UNO State of Cameroon.” He said it was a good thing Treki kept the records straight.

On UN’s creation of a new country in Africa, Ateh said: “I should be getting back to you once the United Nations finishes with an official announcement on the existence of UNO State of Cameroon to the international community.”


While conceiving the new state, the former UN Secretary-General, Kofi Annan invited former President Olusegun Obasanjo of Nigeria and Biya of Cameroon to sign documents respecting their countries’ international boundaries.

It was learnt that Obasanjo and Biya signed the documents in March 2003 to cede their twin territories (Northern and Southern Cameroons) to the proposed UNO new country in West and Central Africa.

The UN, according to recent reports, pledged to actualize a new State of Cameroon on July 10, 2020.

Residents of Southern Cameroon were excited over the merger of their land with Northern Cameroon in Nigeria, comprising 24 local government areas in Borno (five), Adamawa (12) and Taraba (seven) states.

The Guardian learnt that the Southern Cameroon residents have since last year during their agitations to separate tagged the UNO State of Cameroon as “Ambazonia.”


In Nigeria, the new country’s landmass extends from Bakassi Peninsula in Cross River State to Ngala Local Government Area of Borno State in the Lake Chad region.

While responding to ceding five local government areas from Borno State, an aide to Governor Babagana Zulum said: “We’ll study the recent unfolding developments on ceding Bama, Gwoza, Dikwa, Kala/Balge and Ngala councils to the UNO State of Cameroon.

“The state government will also be liaising with federal agencies on how to cede the affected local government areas as Obasanjo and Biya had signed documents with the UN to respect their international boundaries.”

According to the UN workshop coordinator and chairman, steering committee, Ateh, the councils to be ceded to UNO State of Cameroon, include Bama, Gwoza, Ngala, Kala/Balge, Dikwa. Others include Madagali, Michika, Mubi North, Mubi South, Mayo/Belwa, Toungo, Ganye, Serti, Hong, Jada, Maiha and Jada councils.

It was learnt that before the announcement of the new state, the UN had kept Northern and Southern Cameroons under watch since Obasanjo and Biya signed the documents under the UN treaty.

Meanwhile, the Secretary-General of UN, Antonio Guterres has commenced the process of sensitization towards the July 10 date of creating the new state for the Anglophone separatists in Cameroon.

According to reports, Guterres has continuously reached out to the UNrepresentative in charge of the territories, Ateh to constantly organize sensitisation workshops on the brief history of the UNO State of Cameroon.

The UN is determined and constantly fingered as an interested party in the arrangement to actualize the new state.

The Nigerian government has been urged to carry out an investigation to establish the facts surrounding the ceding of 24 local government areas to create a new country.

According to Google Map, Nigeria, particularly in the Northeast region with a decade-long Boko Haram insurgency is sandwiched between its territory and Cameroon Republics, with Bakassi Peninsula and Lake Chad located south and northeast of the UNO State of Cameroon.

The new state will have a total landmass of 28, 214 square km with an estimated population of 20 million people. Last year’s 72-hour ultimatum given by the United States (U.S.) to Cameroon to withdraw its troops from la Republique du Cameroons was heeded by President Paul Biya last month.

Before the pullout, neither the U.S nor Cameroon had responded to the expiration date until Treki asked Biya to withdraw his troops.

The Speaker of the Cameroonian National Assembly, Cavage Yeguie Djibrilhad also asked the Cameroonian government to fully implement the new law on decentralization that seeks to grant greater power to local councils and regions.

Consequently, Biya signed the law on the promotion of official language in Cameroon, settlement law of the Republic of Cameroon for2020 financial year, last December.

The bill addresses the creation of assemblies of chiefs, regional assemblies and councils with each of the two territories having elected presidents, vice president, secretaries and public affairs management controllers.

source: https://m.guardian.ng/news/nigeria-may-lose-24-councils-to-new-un-state/

Is this really true

Fake news ... rumours... lies ... trash ... absolute garbage... to be believed by uneducated dumb heads. Smh....

sterlingD:
I am unable to digest this piece of information.l am finding it hard to believe.

I hope our government is aware of this and not wait till the last minute to respond and as usual embark on blame game

Fake news.

FortuneDeGreat:
Madam Ngozi is not an Igbo woman, but was married by an Igbo.
Her tribe is Niger delta.
PERIOD!

O boy, you too much

Odunayaw:
Spare me this tears na. I asked a simple question. What do you think the Sagaie (& the new Chinese product is for).

An IFV belongs to Mechanized infantry. Carry the lads into harms way and support them. And that's why ATGMs are carried on IFVs not some low pressured outdated 73mms

Ok stop crying I can guess confirm that other IFV schemes are in the works. Plans are on for the army to get 8*8 IFVs armed with 30mm gun and others. This is not the BTR-4, but a different product entirely.

So that you don't poo in your pants crying about 73mm guns that we still need

dignity33:
i support South African let them colonised Nigeria is better than Igbo colonizing us.

Hmm. This guy. Hear how wasted a soul sounds. May heaven redeem.

Tobiloba2407:
The 73mm is useless and obsolete....we dont need it, because it has almost nothing to offer

Ok. Shout on nairaland as you like; we have ordered more. And they are coming in batches with 73mm guns

If you don't like it... abeg resign from the army.

Or if you know more than the generals, apply to the MoD as a consultant. Smh...

Closed

Odunayaw:
Europe is poised to face a peer adversary. Can you show me the armies with 73mm guns

See this man... some of you sha...

The Nigerian army BTR-4 has 30mm auto-cannon. What we need is more of them.
But to imply that we don't need the 73mm guns is lame.

You think army strategists are dumb for choosing the 73mm anti-tank IFV for armoured support. Do you know how much 1 round of MBT HEAT shell cost?

ideylaff:
AFRICAN dependent (DEVELOPMENT) BANK

While we waste our resources hosting World Cup and several platitudinal OAU, AU, ECOWAS whatever meetings,
here is where we actually are -

Nigeria with 9.2% voting power being the largest shareholder.

USA with 6.5% voting power.

Japan 5.4% with VP

Germany 7th on the table at 4.2% VP

Canada 4% VP

France 3.7% VP

Italy 2.4% VP

UK 1.7% VP

Sweden 1.5% VP

Switzerland 1.5% VP

Apart from
Egypt with 5.4% VP;
South Africa 4.9%;
Algeria 4.2% VP

The rest of
8 African Nations from
Cote d Ivoire to Kenya have nominal status from 3 to 1% Voting Power

The Voting Block comprises 20 Countries:

African Nations with 11 Countries have only 32.4% Voting Power
at the Bank.

Foreign Countries are 9 including USA, Japan, Sweden etc with Voting Power of 67.6%.

Source IMF.

These African leaders will soon sell all their citizens to foreign Nations.

The faith of Akinwumi is not in the hand of African Countries but foreign investors.
Too bad!

Oga, go and sleep.

Tobiloba2407:
I have tried to convince you, it's not even 78mm.... when you read somethings online try and understand it. Modern warfare is fought like boko haram war. See, I will never tell a surgeon how to open a body . I will advise you understand your limits too .


There even no high pressure , or high velocity 73mm gun variant on the bmp....or even our saigae.

The bmp 1 is also a death trap, that can easily incinerate troops, because of where the fuel tank is.

You are very correct though. The BMP1 has many deficiencies, including the location of the fuel tank and firing inaccuracies.

Maybe that is the reason we are buying them as Used not brand new. The MoD must have plans for more potent IFVs. I will hope...

Tobiloba2407:
All bmp 1s come with spg 73mm gun, which on its own is an anti tank gun, installed on the bmp1, even the almost useless bmp2, was built with the 30mm gun, because of the useless 73mm spg 9

Nevermind xx

Tobiloba2407:
I have tried to convince you, it's not even 78mm.... when you read somethings online try and understand it. Modern warfare is fought like boko haram war. See, I will never tell a surgeon how to open a body . I will advise you understand your limits too .


There even no high pressure , or high velocity 73mm gun variant on the bmp....or even our saigae.

The bmp 1 is also a death trap, that can easily incinerate troops, because of where the fuel tank is.

Lol. I was typing while walking, hence the error. . I know its 73mm. In my first post, i used 73mm, look back, so no issue there.

I admit when you are correct but you don't seem to understand me. Am talking about the possibility our newly acquired BMP1s having the SPG 73mm gun, not the BMPs we already have.

Anyway, lets leave it here.

Tobiloba2407:
With all due respect that 73mm low velocity gun has no advantages unless the target is sitting still at 400 meters.... and no, a 30mm on any vehicle is useless, in fact any .50cal weapons mounted on a vehicle without any form of stabilization like we do with our vehicles is almost useless....we need a dedicated platform designed around the gun with good fire control system.....else we just have a terror weapon, not a killing weapon, how many seized vehicles or bodies, have you seen with .50 cal sized holes?

You are correct. The BMP1 2A28 78mm gun are low pressure but I don't think those are the guns on our arriving BMPs. Perhaps the MOD would have opted for the SPG-9 78mm variant which has much higher pressure and range. Am not sure, but being privy to the full specs of our VT-4s and other new weapons; I can say that the BMPs wouldn't carry the low pressure guns. I doubt it.

Yet you are still correct about the need for dedicates platforms of the 30mm guns.
For now, we are arming proper to fight wars, not boko haram. Hence the need for the higher BMP1s.

youghs:
Honestly Huge investment in IFV with 23mm or 30mm cannon of at least 2km effective firing range would be a game changer in the war against bokoharam cos the vehicle and its ammo is cheap and its effect of BH light vehicles is very deadly...They are more useful than even tanks in this war cos tanks are for bigger targets which bokoharam hardly posses...Producing these vehicles locally either from scratch or through license production shouldn't be hard for the army to engage in.

Sure, we need many IFVs with 22-30mm cannons, like the BMP 2 variant is armed with a 30mm cannon. You are right, just as I am, that those would be useful in defeating boko haram.

But the army is looking far ahead. If we arm these IFVs with 30mm guns. What happens when boko haram ends, and we face a real army.

So, obviously while you are correct about the 23-30mm guns in defeating boko haram. We must look beyond that. We need IFV that can fight real armoured vehicles in real war scenarios. Boko haram would come and go. But inferior IFVs would remain in the armoury.

Tobiloba2407:
I just hope it isnt bmp1 with its useless 73mm gun.....and whatever we are getting comes with a good fire control system to make them effective and neutralize enemies from a distance accurately....I will personally favor the bmp 3 , because it comes with a 30mm gun. 4 rounds at every gun truck to stop it, the 100mm gun, can sport frag ammo, to kill masses of terrorists.

The 73mm gun has its own advantages. It's a bazooka, useful for taking out targets like armoured combat vehicles, in real wars. The rounds can penetrate 400mm of steel. Unfortunately, those guns are not very useful in counter insurgency wars. But, the IFV we bought are still BMP 1 which we need to fight real wars.

For boko haram, 30mm guns can be mounted on MRAPs or other vehicles for this purpose.

If we buy new IFV with 30mm guns, it is lesser power when we fight real armies with large armoured vehicles.

BNS Compact Killer

Nonsense article. African countries together have 60% voting power, regardless of individual shares. There is no magic the US can do in this case. The bank's articles and procedures are clear.

I will name a sub,ship i see long online

shadowprimezero:
I can't independently verify this, but the source is usually very accurate and the purchase seems likely. Nigeria purchasing Chinese 122mm Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System

Hmm. If only you know the "stuffs" the military is receiving and would receive in the coming months & years. 80% of which you will not see here

Anyway, top men just lock up.

kabe1:
Algerian navy frigate

Wonderful frigate. ... it doesn't look balanced in water.

Abi na my eyes ni

Now, guys are talking politics, on a military thread. Yawns.