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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:52pm On Dec 12, 2019
How the match dey go, I'm not seeing the game.
How Dino melayepanos dey fair? Dude turned 23 yesterday o.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:39pm On Dec 12, 2019
Good to see Freddie stopping that bromance, I've longed for both competing for same spot.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:25pm On Dec 12, 2019
Spy360:
He has been decent when playing that role. And it remains a viable option for the coach to explore. With a lack of proper DMs I expect that option to have been tried by now.
Don't let kokane twist you, he doesn't want to see Guen anywhere in the team..

Whoever plays the midfield good is okay by me, Guen or nobody is Mr Arsenal..

I'm indifferent whenever I see Guen in or out of fans preferred 11, but when its coming from the emotional one.

At this rate he prefers Mustafi or Elneny come back to that role.. The feeling is so intense and I wonder why..

Even some of us non Xhaka's fans still see "physicality" as something good, baba no just wan see anything good from the boy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 2:26pm On Dec 12, 2019
Spy360:
How?

Did you watch our last match and noticed how Torriera became more effective the moment Guen came in?
Now that xhaka is out, Guen will be the reason city will flog us.. cry
Xhaka please come back soon.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 2:24pm On Dec 12, 2019
Spy360:
Of what value is our match against City compared to Liege?
Between each, which is more winnable?

Bros it makes a whole lot of sense. EL is our more probable route to CL next season, you don't want to battle opponents now that are direct competition. Not at this period when we are struggling.

We have two matches between now and weekend, we could win one easily and also lose one easily. Why not focus on the one we can easily win and make it certain. Rather than on the one we can't win and end up losing both.

Ljungberg will still be here if he wins Liege and loses to City. But if he loses to Liege, he may not be manager against City. Sense things.
Bellerin, Holding, Tierney, Pepe and Xhaka all out of Liege. Xhaka concussed, will also miss City. Length of Tierney’s absence not yet clear, but he dislocated his shoulder at West Ham so could be lengthy. Bellerin & Pepe to be assessed ahead of City. Holding two weeks away.

A team of Martinez
Niles. Mustafi. Mavro. Kola
Guen. Willock
Smithrowe
Nelson. Saka
Laca

Should at the least get a draw.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 11:33am On Dec 10, 2019
Good Win.

Henceforth MAP not PAL is the front3 we want to see, no matter how bad we may look, their individual brilliance and efforts can win you games.

Socrates, Xhaka and Ozil( very intelligent but not the kind of energy we need) should not be part of the future plan here..

Also Niles to me the best attacker of our RB full backs, I love his direct runs, similar to Riccardo Pereira of Leicester.

Torreria is a workhorse, let's get T.partey or Ndidi to ease his work.

For man city, hmmmm, if we raise our energy, we can get something.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 11:18pm On Dec 09, 2019
Roland17:
Thoughts about Torreira's performance today? A dominant performance and I think he was our best player even before the goals started coming..
Torreira is another midfield Sanchez, doesn't hide despite small frame, I like his spirit, I just want a Thomas partey beside him, I fear he may worn out with time with the vast amount of energy he gives, considering most around him aren't ready to work hard as he.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 11:14pm On Dec 09, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
I’ve always rated himself and Saka those are the guys I was expecting Emery to propel
Saka needs time, Martinelli is far ready than many senior players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 11:12pm On Dec 09, 2019
Roland17:
I dey tell you!!! Make I hear say that boy siddon for bench again!
I heard newly from people he has the Sanchez kind of energy, see him running forward and pressing them, I was surprised when he gained a through ball from pepe between 2 black physical defenders..
It was his goal that brought us back.only if about 4 or 5 more players can do similar.. Klopp praised him already
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:36pm On Dec 09, 2019
Martinelli's energy like he's on 350K a week
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:05pm On Dec 09, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Ozil has made it difficult for all the 3 men upfront to do anything meaningful in this game. It's frustrating seeing him stroll about the pitch when Martineli is running here and there trying to win the ball and push attacks.

I have to agree that Ozil is spent. He should go to German league or any other farmers league abeg.
kiss
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:04pm On Dec 09, 2019
Xhaka ducked again? Same he did against Tominay..
Ljumberg tasting the sweetness of Xhaka.
I can't wait for Allegri to come do his magic on Xhaka.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 9:30pm On Dec 09, 2019
Pepe is the only one running with the ball, but as usual his teammates wants the easier route of walking the ball in the net..

Xhaka doing Xhaka things again..

Westham have started wrestling us, teams in the league knows roughing us up is the way.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 8:50pm On Dec 09, 2019
Jencejyde:
Seems Freddie has now grown some balls and call it as it is. Auba is best in the middle full stop. If there will be a substitution in this game, i would look to take off Ozil and replace him with Laca. Laca should be able to play in the hole as his upper body strength allows him to be the most efficient player with back to goal. All i want is a good performance especially off the ball organization. If the players on this team list have shown fight and understanding with good attitude in training, then they deserve to be there. I'm not really bothered about if they lose, but i want to see significant progress in our defensive organization without the ball. A game is only lost when you concede. We are definitely nowhere near what the Old Arsenal teams used to be but this new team can build gradually and it needs to start first with good organization. Players need to be held responsible for their roles and they must understand what their jobs are on the pitch. One of Toreira or Xhaka must curtail any ehthusiasm to join the attack , that person must never be ahead of the front three/ four cos his job and primary responsibility is to shield the back four. No attack must get to the back four from midfield without going through that person except they go through the wings.

Lets hope for a better showing today.
The only fears are:
Sokratis and Xhaka usual errors..
Mike Dean killing the game..
West ham bullying us with their physique.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 8:11pm On Dec 09, 2019
Official team.
Leno
3 K. Tierney
5 S. Papastathopoulos
21 C. Chambers
2 Bellerín
34 G. Xhaka
11 L. Torreira
35 Martinelli
10 M. Özil
19 N. Pépé
14 P. Aubameyang

This should be a straight win if Dean doesn't kill us.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:46pm On Dec 09, 2019
Preferred team to face Westham from media and blogs in UK.

The Express
Leno, Bellerin, Holding, Luiz, Tierney; Xhaka, Guendouzi, Aubameyang, Ozil, Martinelli, Lacazette.

Evening Standard
Leno, Bellerin, Luiz, Holding, Tierney; Guendouzi, Xhaka; Pepe, Ozil, Aubameyang; Lacazette.

The Guardian
Leno, Bellerin, Luiz, Sokratis, Tierney; Torreira, Xhaka, Guendouzi, Pepe, Ozil, Aubameyang.

The Independent
Leno, Bellerin, Luiz, Holding, Tierney, Guendouzi, Xhaka; Pepe, Ozil, Aubameyang, Lacazette.

Red London
Leno, Bellerin, Chambers, Holding, Tierney, Guendouzi, Torreira, Xhaka, Pepe, Aubameyang, Martinelli.

Which is the best,?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:29pm On Dec 09, 2019
3)Contract mismanagement and a spiralling wage bill
Arsenal actually have a very competitive wage bill but it has been poorly managed, with average players having been handed far too much over the years. That wage bill was manageable while the club were in the Champions League, but three years outside of Europe's elite competition are now taking their toll.

"It’s no secret that we have a Champions League wage bill on a Europa League budget right now. That’s a fact." Those were the words of Josh Kroenke earlier in the summer and they have been proven by the club's latest set of accounts for the 2018-19 season which showed a loss of £23m.

4)Wasted millions and poor squad management
The recruitment on the whole has been poor, most notably in the summer of 2016 when Granit Xhaka, Shkodran Mustafi and Lucas Perez were brought in at a price of close to £100 million ($132m).

Others such as Danny Welbeck, Mathieu Debuchy, Gabriel, Calum Chambers and Sokratis have all come in for in excess of £10m and have failed to make much of an impact.

Over the past decade Arsenal have not had many success stories in the transfer market and they have also sold very poorly at times, especially when you compare their record with other top-flight Premier League teams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:23pm On Dec 09, 2019
Below Goal takes a look at some of the contributing factors behind Arsenal's worst slump in decades.

1)Absent ownership.
At any organisation - sporting or otherwise - the ownership needs to be strong and decisive. If it’s not, problems will arise and at Arsenal there is no doubt that the Kroenkes are a major problem.
When Stan Kroenke first arrived in 2007, Arsenal had just been in the Champions League final. Wind the clock forward 12 years and they are now facing up to the prospect of their first season without European football in 25 years.

2)Wenger staying too long
Wenger staying too long only added to that issue and on the whole his signings were poor. The club spent big money on transfer fees and on contracts when that cash could have been spent far better.

The one summer when Arsenal really should have kicked on was after the 2015 FA Cup win yet the only addition Wenger made was Petr Cech. Not a single outfield player was brought in and Arsenal went on to fall away during the 2015-16 season while Leicester won the title.
It was a massive missed opportunity.

The lack of ambition that summer set the wheels in motion for the Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil contract sagas that went on to dominate the headlines for the following 18 months.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 1:53pm On Dec 09, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Are u seriously pinning this on somebody else other than Emery?

Even OGS wey be noob coach sef was bold enough to handover captainship to Maguire in the absence of their captain. Wo forget, emery na just one yeye human manager
You don't get it, who is the captain material after Cech and Kosc? There is none worthy to be the captain.
Xhaka ended in tears and Auba is far from it. Maguire is everything a leader, big man at Leicester and England at world cup..
.Pick a leader at Viera,Kompany,V.dijk,Milner,
Ramos kind of personalty at Arsenal.. You'll not be able..

As for Emery, until I see another manager come do wonders with the Xhakas and Mustafis, only then I'll agree he is shitty.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:56am On Dec 09, 2019
Keky:
Emery wanted a midfielder reinforcement and a good CB. He knew our weak points. He got a winger, no midfielder and an old CB. This shows that the club isn't run properly.
Kroenko told us be excited, they used Pepe to scam fans. Pepe wasn't the first choice, I watched a video he said he wanted to ease Pepe like Fabinho since he isn't Zaha who knows the League..
It was even difficult to select captain, he had to tell players choose, captain coming out publicly to say we are scared...
Arsenal's job isn't attractive to any top manager, none is willing to come soil his image.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:42am On Dec 09, 2019
Spy360:
I am not with you on this. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever. Wenger became obsolete, but Emery was shitt. If Emery had continued, we would be taking guns and other ammunitions to defend Emirates. Wenger in all his deterioration, never led us to this extent where we dropped to 11th and being scared of facing Newcastle away. Wenger was a come back lord, he would have found a temporal solution to get us back again.
Wenger in his deterioration had only city,Liverpool,Chelsea and utd, now we have spurs, Leicester and wolves..
Wenger,Emery, the players, no solution anywhere... A very good manager will only make us look "okay".
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:11am On Dec 09, 2019
Keky:
Fkhalifa
cheesy
Bro, I hope they will not see this as taking sides with Emery, the truth is Emery had his issues, quite alright, but arsenal's problem is bigger than just "coaching" ...The errors committed by Wenger's £70M in Xhaka and Mustafi would have landed us in UCL by now, is Emery a magician or error correcting machine, that he'll change them suddenly?

Why do you think the top managers are not gunning for Arsenal job?

Comparing Arsenal's situation to Buhari,Amosun,Ameachi talk is a joke..

The only worthy players Wenger left was Auba,Laca,Ramsey and Bellerin.. Montreal..ageing
Iwobi..potentials

Did you see Pep and Klopp's massive team overhaul? Is it this penny pinching and buying cheap options that'll not spoil any manager with a good CV like Emery's image?

I read the below in a forum __

If Wenger was still in charge we would have been relegated last season, Football in England has changed..

Emery finished a point away from CL in the PL and made the EL final.
Unfortunately he was not allowed to buy his own payers because
Mislintat and then Sanllehi buy the players.
Emery wanted Nzonzi and would have preferred a top class CB.
But Sven Mislintat bought Socritis and this season Sanllehi bought Luiz and Pepe.
So Emery got lumbered with Socritis Luiz Mustafi Xhaka Torreira and Pepe.
Emery tried to sell Mustafi Elneny Ozil and Mkhitarian but none would leave.

Till now no buyers for the above named players..

You're only fvckn deceiving yourself, if you are blaming all crisis on Emery, and not tracing this Arsenal's problems from past regimes..

P.s...This is not to say Emery doesn't have his problems.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m):
BlueRayDick:
I don't know how u will take this, but lemme apologize before hand in case u are offended by dis.

Honestly what u write up here is typical of what a Buhari supporter would write. Jonathan has been ousted for over 4 years and Buhari has taken the reins of power determined to steer the ship of the nation toward economic growth and development. However each time people ask Buhari for the better life he promised, he looks back and points at Jonathan for doing irreparable damage to the economy. Even when people tend to take Buhari up on the fact tgag some things that were better under Jonathan are getting worse under him, he still finds a way to link it to Jonathan (of course without him doing anything to improve the situation)

That is exactly what u did with Wenger and Emery up there. Wenger already got the boot. He was asked to go for not being able to win the coveted trophies the club has been mocked to lack in recent times, he took his L and moved on. The club looked at Emery's CV and passed him the job thinking he will do better than his predecessor ( they didn't even think sef, they expected him to do better). Why? Because He's shown he can win cups in modern day football. He's done that with sevilla and Psg. He said he was okay with the players at his disposal, he was not known to show disdain for any player other than ozil....He was ready to work with everyone else.

Now bàbà has failed woefully, he's not just failed to win the major cups, he lost the smaller ones wenger would've given us as consolation and he played a drab uninspiring style of football while doing that. Emery was 4cking expected to be an improvement of Wenger, not a worse version.

Chelsea sacked Sarri for how he played and almost didn't make the top 4, so far Lampard has looked like an improved version. That's what Emery was expected to be not posting winless streak upandan.

This post will not be complete without saying thunder fire sir Good Ebening
I'm not interested in the politics side of your talks, if a buharist see your post, he/she will also counter and rubbish what you put there.

Emery was asked to come take us back to UCL, that was the target, every other thing else is secondary..

Kokanes's believe that Emery destroyed the good work Wenger left is what I'll never agree, in truth and in fact, Wenger was sacked, the team was going down, fans boycotted the stadium, we were in deep mess.

The reality is this is not city where anything change overnight,I'm telling you no top manager will do wonders with this squad, we're stucked with deadwoods, we can't even see any buyer and everything is in shambles..

Emery's first year was okay and nearly every fans will agree his loyalty to rubbish players was his undoing...

Wenger would have won us the smaller cups is laughable, football has changed, he won't win jack in this present age and time.

My argument was not support or cover Emery,but to reject the idea of "Emery spoiled the great work of Wengee"

Sarri inherited a title winning squad, Lampard? Season hasn't finished, Emery was also in top4 last DEC.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 7:22am On Dec 09, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
which of his signings have been able to replace the so called deadwoods reliably. Which of his signings have been exceptional?
The fact remains Wengay already messed up the financial side of this club, by purchasing scraps with huge money( £100M on Xhaka,Mustafi andPerez).., it was not going to be easy to lay them off and get better players with thr Arsenal's T.budget. the young Guen and Torreira came and already became fan's favorite ahead of Xhaka and Elneny.

The only proper signings are Pepe,Leno, Tierney and Torreira, the rest are just ( help us fix it and potentials)..

The free, loan and low priced commodities in the market we got in Ceballos, Denis Suarez, Luiz,Guen,Martinelli et al, are results of financial mismanagement of the previous regime.

In Wenger’s last season Arsenal finished 12 points off 4th.
In Emery’s first season Arsenal finished 1 point off 4th.
That’s an enormous improvement( even though so many individual errors from players marred us) despite the mess Wenger left the club
both on and off the field.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 11:15pm On Dec 08, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
Emery is the reason we are where we are. Emery had one job build on what Wenger has done strengthen it and what did he do he scattered everything with his hands.

You will agree we had one of the best attacks and midfield in the league during Wenger. The weakness was defence. Emery came in and all areas suddenly became abysmal and u want to blame only the players.
What did Wenger do? Wenger was done at top level since, Things looked better then for 2 major reasons

1)The league wasn't that hard as this..

1) We had Sanchez( Quality and hardworking attacker required in modern day football in England)

After Sanchez, we couldn't win any away game in the league from Jan 2018 till last day against Huddersfield.

City embarased us with our new signing Auba and Mhicky 3-0 at Wembley and Emirates, we were far behind top4 and fans had started boycotting the stadium, so he was sacked..
.we couldn't beat a 10 man Atletico, we were that bad.. I knew from that day, this players are not worthy, not even a good send off for the boss.

Emery cleared some dead woods,( they were too many) and did okay in first year, though fuulishly persisted with some erratic not good enough players, and they let him down, Auba's missed penalty and/ or Xhaka's error against Brighton missed us from UCL.

It was his 2nd year when he persisted with some useless players and rubbish formations that kicked him out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:29pm On Dec 08, 2019
The EPL this season is different from last season and previous seasons. It is played with energy, fight, grit, determination, stamina and pace by all the teams except Arsenal.

If we keep playing the same formation with 7 defensive players and only 3 attacking players, we will be relegated mark my words. I mean, we could hardly string 5 passes together before getting dispossessed and by getting dispossessed, I mean we literally pass the ball back to the opposition.

But there is a solution, we have a COMBINATION of players in the squad who can play the game with skill, energy, fight, grit, determination, stamina and pace with 70% success rate for starters. We should start using those players and work on them in training to play possession based, quick, one-touch football and drill them on pressing off the ball.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:12pm On Dec 08, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
I agree with the first paragraph and strongly disagree with the second.
Well, not many will agree, but is not better we rest the big men and try out the youths for 5 games? Maybe the senior men will be refreshed, maybe we discover some youths who are ready.

The only hope now is Europa, let them Xhaka, Ozil go win it, the youngsters should just play for top6.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 10:07pm On Dec 08, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
it won’t help their development, they’ll chop beating sotey they’ll be traumatised. They’ll loathe the manager for putting them in line of fire trust me their confidence will wither. No EPL team can play a youth dominated team in in the league and get anywhere.
That's your view, in so far this lads are ready to burst their guts, they'll never see a cricket score, that am sure, you feel Holding will be committing errors every match day? Or you see him making stvpid fouls?
Don't forget we are out of ucl because of Xhaka, he single handedly cost us 2 points at home to Brighton?
The senior players can be coming from the bench at 70mint..

Still having faith in the senior clowns will continue to put you in more sorrows.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 9:44pm On Dec 08, 2019
If We make the f.f the major part of match day squad in the league..
Tierney
Macro
Holding
Chambers
Niles
Guendozi
Torreira
Willock
Pepe
Martinelli
Smith Rowe
Nelson.
, They can't do worse, it will even give them the exoerience.
Let the senior clowns play Europa and Fa cup, since they do not have energy to play week in week out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 9:37pm On Dec 08, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
At some point we saw potential in Ox, Wilshere, Walcott, Chamak, etc potential is what it is “potential”
Clichy,Sagna,Schezney,Alex Song,Fabregas,Hleb et al were also potentials
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 9:34pm On Dec 08, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
This is speculative at best.
By the way the players you claimed turned out good. Were they playing in a team predominantly youth or were transitioned into the senior team till they could earn their place.?
I'm talking for future purpose, the talk was to get a new manager, clear the senior clowns and mix the youths with the new proper recruits.

What Spy and Sod are suggesting is we play the youths that they can't be worse, which I feel will help their devpt.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Fkhalifa(m): 9:23pm On Dec 08, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
The way yall keep sounding like the young guys will all turn out good is extreme optimism. Wenger is one of the best in nurturing young talents out there and not all players under his tutelage turned out good.

Stop stating as fact what u ain’t sure will happen, it’s a gamble and will forever be a gamble.
We can see potentials, and with right management, there's high chance they turn good.
Wenger was arguably the best at this in his early years,but the Arnold,Robertson,Sane,Alli,Odoi,Mbappe,Jota,
Jao Felix,Sancho et al turned out good elsewhere in recent times

For me, I see at least 7 out of the f0llowing 11 turn out good enough to make the squad in future.

Holding,
Mavropsnos,
Niles,
Martinelli
Guendozi
Willock
Nelson
Saka
Nketiah
Torreira
Smith Rowe

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