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Spy360:
You are right bro. Arteta remains a huge gamble.

But what of Allegri, you think he is hyped. He won Series A with AC Milan and then five times with Juventus, add two CL finals and you can't call it a fluke.

I'll take Allegri over Arterta, I'm not just that confident.

Spy360:
After Pep, Zidane, etc are you still afraidvl of new managers? When its right it could be the biggest decision of the season.
Arteta has a very glowing profile already at City. He was favorite to replace Wenger, but couldn't reach an agreement with the board with respect to control. He could be the next best manager, I am warning.
Allegri has the best CV amongst all no doubt. In terms of profile, no one is anywhere near. Saying he is an Emery is a huge disrespect and sentimental reasoning.

What is glowing about Arterta? Kompany can as well be Pep's assistance and they'd still be that good..
Arterta is a risk, a big one at that, We need to see him manage a professional side, Arsenal shouldn't be a stepping stone, let him go experiment at Southampton, he doesn't necessarily need to win trophies, let's just see the stuffs he's made of before we can conclude.

It is dicey, he could be very good,average or bad, little to nothing is to be said of him atm.

Spy360:
Rate these managers from the most preferred....

Mikel Arteta, Freddie Ljunberg, Mauricio Pochentino, Max Allegri, Nuno Espirito Santo.

This is tough, so I have to split my head from my heart.

My Head
1. Max Allegri
2. Nuno Espirito Santo
3. Mikel Arteta
4. Mauricio Pochentino
5. Freddie Ljunberg

My Heart
1. Mikel Arteta
2. Freddie Ljunberg
3. Max Allegri
4. Nuno Espirito Santo
5. Mauricio Pochentino

What's yours?

My head and heart goes for:

Nuno Espirito
Mauricio pochentino
Max Allegro
Mikel Arterta
Freddie Ljumberg

I already explained my reason for Nuno yesterday..
Pochentino..because he knows the league, has been in top4 in recent times with little budget, makes sensible business in windows and instils the never give up fearless spirit in his team

Allegro, to me is like an Italian Emery,(Emery even had trophies in Europe) they both cruised in a less competitive, one horse race league with all the financial backings, yet couldn't do something exceptional in Europe, but he is experienced and has a better CV than the next2 baby coach

Arterta, Dude is too raw, hasn't managed a team, money and pep does most things at city, Arterta looks too cool like a younger version of Wenger,We need a terrifying looking manager like Nuno I doubt he can handle the egoistic senior payers, however, he's played almost all his games in England, understands the league,must have learnt from Moyes,Wenger and Pep.

Ljumberg,Very similar to Arterta,hasn't managed any professional side, Arsenal shouldn't be an experimental/training ground, but he's a respected figure and can help the youngsters grow

Spy360:
If you are giving 3years then Emery still got one left. Any coach joining Arsenal now is on trial which will be for max two years within which if there is no steady improvement will be replaced.

Emery does not look like he'll turn things around here, he could be successful elsewhere..
We can be patient for the first year, but the second year, we need to at least see signs, there were signs at pep and klopp's team in first year..

There's a message going on at Leicester and wolves.

Nuno if after first year shows no improvement, then he shouldn't be rewarded with an extension, 3 transfer windows is enough to clear deadwoods and bring in his kind of players ( he doesn't necessarily need to spend large on any media hyped players, just 2,3 new players with good traits of a modern Bpl quality.

What I meant by third year is that we should have gotten to a stage where we only need a v.dijk and Alisson kind of signing, stock our squad bench with talents and be able to face any team confidently in Europe.

iamoyindamola:
Now you getting to the place I was saying we should just leave lyunberg and Arteta since new coach we have 3 years too

Ahh!
Ljumberg/Arterta will be an experiment like Solkjer, after 3 years we start afresh again..
Let's kuku begin now, I meant in 3 yrs time, we should have gotten our Arsenal back I.e competing at the highest level with a formidable team and squad.

iamoyindamola:
My point is can our players adapt to his tactics, we can even defend to save our lives

He is their boss and they have to learn it,anyone who isn't willing or can't adapt should please use the door.
Slowly and gradually he'll bring in his kind of players. 2/3 players every summer in 3 yrs will have him his full squad.

Below is a chart showing the good work, it isn't a season wonder nor coincidence..

Wolves like every promoted side is to remain in the league, but he is surpassing the target and doing exceptional with little budget.

Only Ranieri's Leicester has done it better.

iamoyindamola:
This Nuno espirito guy, I feel his style is to sit back and but on counter same thing Emery is trying to do but with the players at arsenal
We need attack minded coach not a defensive one I hope we won't be doing hire and fire

We should look at what kind of tactics a coach uses, his mentality and whether it fits our current squad and our current requirements.

We need a coach who can strengthen our defensive organization, improve our players one touch passing and reaction times, and also their body positioning when receiving the balls, train our attacking players to make good runs into space letting our creative players do their job, and also develop some mental fortitude to withstand pressure and tough situations on the field. Then we can build from there.

Any manager who can do that is welcome by me, regardless of his past accomplishments. Accomplishments can be deceiving as there are many factors involved like squad strength, budget allocation, etc.

Personally, I want the new manager to bring a solid one-touch passing oriented style to Arsenal, no wasted movements, no sideways passing, direct one touch ball playing. We waste so much time when we have the ball it’s ridiculous.

Allegri, though is an accomplished manager, I would rather go with someone like Nuno or Arteta as they are in the EPL already. Especially Nuno has done a wonderful job at Wolves, both defensively and offensively. And listening to Nuno speak about his football philosophy and style of play, is quite impressive. Wolves play style really reflect what Nuno says, and he would definitely improve our defensive organization. His one idea that really impressed me is controlling the game even without the ball, through effective defensive organisations and creating trigger points in the field where we can press and win a ball and be at a greater advantage than the opposing team. That doesn’t sound like gegenpresing all over the field like how Klopp does, but pressing with offensive intent and purpose, at vulnerable areas. Sounds like something Arsenal could really do with as we have abysmal positioning in the field.

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I'm tilting towards Nuno more than anyone else ATM, realistic and a good gamble..

He brought Wolves from division 2, in his first year, took them to Europa with little budget.

He's got good record against the top sides..

Against Man city.. Won1 0-2 Etihad, Draw1, 1-1 lost1
Liverpool...Won 1(Fa cup) lost 2

Chelsea ....Won 1 drew1

Arsenal... Won1 Drew2

Spurs..Won1, lost 1

Utd Won 1, drew2.

He's qualified for Knockout stage and currently sit on 5th position, he plays high energetic football, spots talents, has a no nonsense look and instills hardwork and bravery.

I'll take him.

Spy360:
If only he had a similar drive towards winning CL and PL. Who be Pep fckin Guadiola or Jose Moaninghoe

I dey tell you, for me, Wenger in his early years is better than the pep and all

He made Arsenal so lovely, we had the largest no of fans in Nigeria, many top players and young talents wanted to play for us..

When he brought Ozil& Sanchez, the atmosphere changed and we began to win trophies again.
Now imagine he's been bringing in such calibre of players since 2007.

iamoyindamola:
tah....
Wengay was exposed the moment mourinho called him specialist in failure and afraid of failing.

No, it was Wenger who iniated the war of words,

Wenger-- Some managers are scared to fail, when the reporter asked him about Mourinho's mind games of ahead of big games.

Reporter to Mou: Do you feel Wenger is right managers playing mind games are scared to fail?
Mourinho: I'm not a failure, he(Wenger) is the specialist in failure

Make I no lie, that insult pain me o, like say na my papa him insult, I hated Jose the more that year.

Spy360:
After Wenger won the double in 03/04 he began a personal campaign to bring the club down in order to propagate his own football gospel. The proud man chose his personal dream of winning with premature kids over the clubs vision of dominating England. Using the stadium as a cheap excuse, he tried over and over again without success. Yet he persisted. The plan became grand when he reached CL finals in 06 with little known Fabregas and Hleb in midfield and Flameni a midfielder at left back.

After losing the finals in dramatic fashion, he embarked on a wider scale by getting even worse players hoping to satisfy his lust. This man is a sadist. We lost the opportunity to sign the best young prospects then afterwards.

Now here we are.

Inasmuch as I value him as a great tactician who doesn't depend on money to win titles, I feel his pride is what have led to our present state.

This is the gospel truth, Wenger's main target was to show the world he is the best by just discovering talents and unknown kids to dominate, he was too rigid and never want to change ways..

That stadium excuse was exposed with Spurs reaching UCL finals,making top4 without spending a dime...

Wenger wasn't that aggressive towards success, he's so relaxed and looks like Emery has been told to come run the club the " Arsenal way".

Spy360:
When we had an unchangeable back 4.

Ashley Cole, Kolo Toure, Sol Campbell, Lauren.

They replaced,
Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Tony Adams, Nigel Winterburn.

Those were the men, physically and mentally strong..
I remember Henri saying after Jose Mounrinho insulted Wenger with the specialist in failure talk, that a team comprising of him,Viera,ljumberg,Kanu, Campbell and Gilberto will be psychologically drilled to do everything and win the next game against mourinho to shut him up. But when he saw those boys losing 6-0 that year, he gave up on their mental strength..

I'm a fan of players who look strong and dominant as against these sexy boys,softies and jerry curls we parade this days.

Roland17:
Is it a case of bowing to fan pressure or a case of constantly tinkering with the formation because he is just as confused with his team’s lacks an identity? Just like you, I have never been a fan of playing Auba outside the CF position because he is lethal with his positioning and ability to make runs.
Playing Auba as the lone CF when all we do is concede possession and welcome all the pressure is nothing but a recipe for disaster because it leaves Auba isolated and that frustrates him a lot because he has to come deep to get involved especially when there is no ball playing/ carrying midfielder.

I'm made to feel so because Arsenal fans in recent times are too vocal and will tell you the players they want to be signed and the formation to be used..

Emery knows he's lost the fans support and he is trying every means to bring them back..

He is confused and just trying anything that will work, something he should have done during the preseason games..

Auba himself said after the spurs game he likes to play the CF,but will play any position he is deployed to.

He should play Martinelli on the LW,he can drive the ball up, press defenders,create chances and also score..
Pepe,Nelson or Niles from the RW with Bellerin and Tierney doing the Arnold and Robertson job..

Auba and Laca should be used like Aguero/Jesus, the season is long, there are many games they will play,
Auba/laca may be dropping some good combination goals,but it won't sustain and make our attack dull with no wing play, as neither is great with the ball.

The midfielders should concentrate on keeping possession, passing to the flanks and shielding the defence..

Also everyone should train on shooting, only Xhaka is good at this, we don't shoot and that's the reason behind our low shot on goal

The front 3 should be ruthless around the box, not always trying to walk the ball in, Rebounce and deflections can happen, De bruyne's deflected shot gave 3 points against Chelsea.

Jencejyde:
Sadly, this is the fault of Emery as i beilive Auba is one of the most in-form strikers around the top leagues and he his made to do so much work that ordinarily should be left to the midfielders and defenders. His energy should be conserved for pressing and making runs to draw out and pressurize defenses and not to be used in defending for the entirety of the game? How he still manages to score with so much work is credit and respect to him.

You understand football jare, the likes of Sanchez are specialist on defending and attacking from the wings, Auba should not be anywhere other than the CF.

I will like to see if the next manager will bow to fans pressure and play him on the wings, it'll be a straight signal of another crap management

Jencejyde:
Shame how the stats this stats that is what is now used to judge players. Really laughable it is. Back then all the coaches needed were to see what you did in training and what you consistently delivered game after game for them to know if truly you would become a success in the sport.

I look at this present arsenal team and in my opinion , its not a bad squad at all, its just needs a better coach at the moment. Bar a few players that are not up to scratch especially in the defense and midfield, its a decent squad that should be challenging for trophies.

Watching the last game and seeing Auba who is supposed to be scoring goals upfront having to track down runners on either side of the fullback positions at times was worrisome. Taking off Hector when you switched to a 4-4-2 after it seemed the 3-5-2 was not working and not replacing with another fullback was also confusing as it left so much gap on that side that gave southampton more than enough chance win the game by a clear margin.

By the way i am a lover of 4-4-2 and the best years of Arsenal was when we played 4-4-2 imho with Henry Bergkamp up top. Frediie and Pires either side of the midfield and Ray/Viera/Gilberto in the middle with one as central and one as defensive mid. The back four picked it self with Keown, Adams, Silvigno and the Camerounian(cant remeber the name now). and of course David Seaman in Goal. Every player understood their roles and i cant ever remember Henry having to be tracking a winger back all the time or Dennis Bergkamp defending on the wings... Its just absurd to see the lack of organization with Emery's constant tinkering when honestly he should just have stuck with his 4-3-3 and improve on it.

The greatest undoing of ours was not the system we played but Wenger failing to replace the players that had given him so much success with the system. we went from Henry to Shamack and Sanogo and from Viera to Denillson and co. Altogether AW now had to change his system to accommodate less skilled players when we could have used money from the sales of the good ones to get like for like replacements and ensure continuity. This is where Sir Alex and Diego Simeone got it right. Once a High profile player was sold, the money was re-invested to near or better quality of that player so that he fits seamlessly into the system rather than buy a less better player and start having problems only to change the system entirely.

Well i hope one day , we will hire a top manager who will stick to his style and only procure the right personell to execute his style come rain or shine

The bolded as our greatest undoing, hmmm, its deep..

I like your Auba Analysis, he will continue to be running and defending so far he plays wing roles, He is a CF and should be made to score

iamoyindamola:
I heard the board are still backing him especially that Raul guy

I read Pep gave an hint on Arterta joining us

kokaneprodigy:
He’s got potential? Yes
But the potential ain’t enough to make him a first team regular starter even in this current squad! That was my stance.

But ur ilks said he’s the best we’ve got that’s why the focus is on Guen cos I wasn’t convinced.
Guen is overhyped period

Xhaka has been a team regular, na error upon sadness, fans booed him out, Torreira should but fitness and physical issues and requires a big midfield destroyer around him.

Is it Willock? Or we call Elneny back? Ceballos is more of attacking, he and ozil together will be run ragged except you put an Ndidi behind them with very rugged quality defenders.

The Guen fans here started by telling you he isn't Modric nor Pirlo, that he's got potentials and should be allowed to grow in peace, you disagreed and rubbished him, then we kuku decide praise and love him.

We said he is 60%, you said no he is 5%, we then decide to kuku be use emotions like you and call him 80%.

On the video, the midfielder said: "Actually, I was taking a nap and someone knocked on my door. I didn’t answer because I was sleeping I swear.

"Then my phone rang and it was the coach on the phone. He said, “It’s me, I knocked” and so on. Obviously I went and opened the door straight away! ‘And then he said, “Matteo, come here, we need to talk.” He said, “I like you very much but you have to leave.

"And I said, “What do you mean I have to leave? What do you mean?” He said, “Actually, you’re going with the senior France national team. ‘In my mind I was like, at first I couldn’t believe it. Ten minutes before I was asleep, I thought it was still a dream!

"The coach and I, we had a good talk, he explained it well. That’s it, he told me I was in the national team of France. It’s a dream. I’m glad I just showered for the sake of my awareness."


This is the coach of the world champions, he likes him and sees some talent and future with him.
For sure he wouldn't bench anyone in the France national team because of the qualities in the squad, most especially that midfield, they are arguably the team with best midfielders atm in the world.

You better focus on management and leadership issues you have at the Emirates.

kokaneprodigy:
Khalifa my point is Guen does nothing special in that team as you and ur ilks want us to believe while blaming others for his shortcomings.

Una no know ball.

Berbartov on Guendozi

“He’s 19 but he’s playing like he’s been there forever.

“Sometimes I’m watching him like I want to be against him because he p****s me off with the confidence he has.

“He’s so confident on the ball and he’s everywhere on the pitch. I’ve watched him. He’s in the box, running without a problem.

“You can be 19 and have the mentality and experience of a 24-year-old. Age doesn’t matter. He’s unbelievable.”

Martin Koewen of Guendozi


“When I was watching Sunday’s game, I was thinking to myself how young Matteo Guendouzi was to be given such a key role in the heart of their midfield against a team as good as City are,” he told the BBC.

“He is only 19 and was making his debut after his summer move from Lorient, who play in the second tier in France.

Yes, Guendozi made some mistakes, but I actually thought he was quite gallant in his performance. He did not hide after making those errors and was actually fearless in the way he kept on showing to receive the ball.

“It seemed to me that some of the people around him, who are more senior players, did not quite show the same appetite to get on the ball when things were not going well.

“Is Guendozi the answer to Arsenal’s prayers in that position? Probably not, but I think he was put in there for his character, and he certainly showed a lot of it.

Alan shearer..

This guy Guendouzi was absolutely magnificent in the second half, they needed a warrior and he stood up.’

Guendouzi’s influence on the Arsenal side is shown by the stats as he has completed the highest number of passes in the squad, the joint-top number of interceptions and the second-highest number of tackles.

Arsene Wenger on Guen..
Wenger told Arsenal’s website: ‘He looks to be a good potential.

‘I think there are many other players who have fantastic potential, who played already with me, like Joe Willock and you have Reiss Nelson.

‘You have many players who come out and have a big potential and Guendouzi is one of them.

I'll rather read from world football personnel than some cassava farmers from Kenya.

kokaneprodigy:
This is Roy on Guen

This is Roy on Guen,Xhaka and Torreira, but its only Guen you see Abosi of the highest order..

It's a known fact none of the 3 are great midfielders, but it is logical we don't conclude on Guen and Torreira yet, they are young, new to the league and in their learning stage, Xhaka is supposed to be the boss, he is a professional,4 years in England with far more top games under his belt.

But you never wrote on Xhaka, the moment the only World class midfielder in Carzola left, everything began to implode, We've lost champions league football before Guen, we were even losing with cricket scores before Guen.
Xhaka single handedly cost us UCL football last season with his foul against Brighton.
He started the final in baku and controlled which midfield?
He cost you £35 and was made the captain, he played the most number of games.

kokaneprodigy:
Keep telling yourself whatever makes u sleep at night.

I hope if bring in posts of fans praising and focusing on his positives, you'll also agree?

For every 1 or 2 posts of this kind, there are 8/9 saying other wise on the boy..

What if I bring Fans thorough analysis on Ozil,Xhaka,Kolasinc,Mustafi,Lacazette,
Pepe,Luiz
,Sokratis,Nelson,Niles,Bellerin..

You'll surely say Guen is the reason for any negatives we see around them.

kokaneprodigy:
Chairman census board, keep deceiving yourself.

That fan pointed out so many things but you choose to focus on the part that suits you..

Here are some stuffs I can deduce:

He said the kid has some talent, Do I agree? Yes.
He is being asked to do much at 20, which is not fair to him, Do I agree? Yes

He is not going to be a long term success here? NO

Playing as CM is the hardest thing to do, the easier tasks like defending, creating chances and scoring are no issues at Arsenal?

Guendozi is not generational talent? Yes, Fabreags was? Yes, Wilshere was? No


Arsenal can't go to through a season with Guendozi,Ceballos,Torrera in midfield, it will implode? YES.
We need men like Docoure,Ndidi,Alex Song,Partey and Viera.

None of them can run nor are well drilled? Do you agree?

Well, its his opinion and perceptions are not fact.

kokaneprodigy:
I can criticise a player how I want without recourse or respect from any moniker here.

If not for Emery’s uselessness, is Guen we should be worshipping in midfield? A so called elite club.

I thought you felt disrespected when they insulted you for being a nobody as a pundit in football world and a young boy being richer and more famous than you.

You can continue to say the same thing over and over, All I know is the fans who see games live already know where the problem lies.

kokaneprodigy:
Pepper me? Dude really? I look like I give a fck to u? Who’s having the last laugh?

We are going no where with Emery and Guen (at least for now) at the centre of our footy, go and write it down.

One thing is common among Arsenal fans all over right now, and that's Emery not getting things right and has to go. Not many will argue that.
But I assure over 75% of the fans will laugh at you if you attribute the failure to Guen, that's just it.
Fans unanimously agree on the players they think are part of it. So you are on your own.

kokaneprodigy:
The hypocrisy is your ilks have criticised every player while claiming Guen is the next best thing after rice and beans. Y’all even criticised AMN that was played out of position, Mustafi that the midfield pairing of Guen and Xhaka got exposed but for some reasons Guen should never be criticised.

I know some may go over the board in praising him,but I'm sure it is to pepper you and 1 or 2 orthers who they perceived hating on him.

kokaneprodigy:
The bolded were my talks until your ilks claimed he’s the best midfielder at Arsenal, and he plays like Vierra which I never agreed with. Then you proceeded in calling me names. One of my Acct managers here even said I don’t have right to criticise a player making more money than I do. It’s only natural for me to beam more light on him. It’s nothing personal with Guen.

That's thier opinion, you can counter it like many have done and it will be respected,but when you go on and on him and equating him to a flop or uselessness, that's how emotions will comes in from you and them

kokaneprodigy:
It’s the work of players that you claimed Guen is better than that will coach him on how to tackle, intercept passes, create threatening chances?

Guen has been the common denominator in that midfield nothing has improved it’s only logical for the manager to drop him and try another partnership but his bias wouldn’t let him.

Can you point just a game where Guen started and we dominated and won. I can name several where Torreira, Xhaka did , this is another fact!

The players he met in the CM/DM positions are all supposed to be better,because he is young and new the club and league, but he looked better than most except Torreira..

The tackles, interceptions and passes you talked about are there already, but you choose not to see, though he isn't very good at that, but he isn't woeful like you're painting him..

Your 2nd paragraph is fairly put, but the manager has the fault instead of venting on the lad.

Your last paragraph is funny, all I know is we win/draw/lose with or without him, there are bigger issues than him, Xhaka beside Lucas in that same midfield was toping the chat with errors leading to goals.

Spy360:
The funny thing is that, caressing the ball is part of his job as a centre midfielder. I am waiting for any one who thinks he has sense to prove to me that a normal CM should not caress the ball and recycle possession. Hevis not an AM, but a CM for fuks sake. Let's be less stupid and think.

The lad was poor in the first half when we played 3-5-2 but picked up when we switched to a 4-5-1 formation after half time which earned him our second best player on the night after Lacazette. The absence of leaders in the team may have affected his game reasoning and perhaps hindered his progress, but the lad is putting better performances than most of the clowns we have currently.

Like I said before, he is like a one legged man in the land of the lame. In a shiity team like Arsenal, Guendouzi manages to give a decent performance. It may not be enough for a top team like ours or any top team at all, but he is among the best we have currently.

If you doubt, check player ratings on any site you wish, or else you want to tell us that you know more than every analyst that exist today.

They see the bolded as "forming activity" since he isn't scoring and assisting..

A team with a good coach and matured quality experienced players would have fashioned his game to something very meaningful.

When we have Ndidi,Partey and Doucoure, you think Guen will have much playing time..
Fans who vote him for POTM can't be all blind, those voting him for Golden boy aren't all daft, even if it be Arsenal fans voting him, he wouldn't still gather votes topping and battling the Sancho,Jao Felix and De light of this world..

In fact I need to see what those lads will look like in England.

kokaneprodigy:
Can you itemise at least 4 Intrinsic qualities of a DM and tell me the ones Guen has in good measure?

His profile from his prev club says CM/DM..
But from his playing style, he more of a CM than DM and his stats are there, but you'll say because he plays the most.

kokaneprodigy:
First paragraph, I never said a thing like that

Meanwhile how are we faring with same low class team with Guen in the heart of it?

during the winning streak Guen came in from bench and his energy level was useful I had no problems with that. he never started!! That’s a fact.

Last paragraph; I thought you would say that. These defeats came up 2nd half of last season when runs were already bad after trying to force Guen into the starting line up and alienating Torreira and Ozil etc while at it, those guys didn’t enjoy good playing time prior to Liverpool away.

We played Liverpool in the first leg and it was a draw 1-1

I thought I read "Emery had no style, those saying he made us go on 22games unbeaten are not seeing the bigger picture, the unbeaten only papered over the cracks" maybe not you, but looks like you.

How you are trying to make Guen the heart of the team wonders me o, there was a Xhaka who played far more, he was made the captainand was telling us they were scared of the ball at watford,(Guen is even the most confident that demands the ball and holds it like a boss and draw fouls in tight corners) orthers are scared or there was Auba/Laca, how is he the heart of the team, lot of playing time doesn't mean so.

So the moment Guen came into the team, everything turned upside.. Xhaka, Torreira and Ozil lost rhythm? Ahhhh!
I find this hard to believe

kokaneprodigy:
It’s a lie! He never pointed out shii! His playing style never changed as a matter of fact he was actually building the team around him. Which is pure celebration of mediocrity.

I can dig up several posts where ur ilks made it look like other peeps were dragging the team back except Guen. Everyone should get benched except Guen. Chicken has come home to roost u are changing tune saying what’s not.

We were playing better when he wasn’t starting, when performance dropped everyone has chopped bench except Guen but ur hypocrisy will let u blame someone that was on the bench.

I don’t hate Guen!
My point has always been Guen does not deserve to start regularly and enjoy the playing time he’s had even with our current squad. He’s not even our best youth player he has only benefited from the manager’s favouritism same way Giroud did during Wenger.



Pairing Ceb with Torreira with Ozil playing behind the CF flanked by Pepe and Saka/Auba/Matinelli till they sync can never be worse than what we currently have.

Nobody has problem with Guendozi chopping bench or learning stuffs..

Your talks about him doesn't look like the bolded, what we read from you is " He adds nothing to this team,get the fvk out and bring in anyone else ".

He is always your center of focus, other glaring issues you ignore, but guen here and there, and that's the reason why some of us chose to support, encourage and commend his good works..

Torreira is the only one who deserves a spot ahead of him, hGuen is as vital or have done better than the Xhaka,Willock and Elneny is that position.

Also, Ceballos is more of an attacking midfielder than CM/DM, Guen defends better and Ceba attacks better

kokaneprodigy:
My point is Guen is a major part of it too, the team/midfield played very well during the winning streak last season. We lost form once Emery decided to force him into the starting lineup. It’s a fact!

"Played very well" can be relative, you were among the people saying the unbeaten was only papering the cracks..

The unbeaten run had us play some low class games in Europa and league cup, we didn't win any big side except Tottenham..
Guen featured in those games to,It was not a Xhaka or Guen matter..

For me, it was down to some players form, Bellerin,Monreal and Holding were inform, Welbeck and Ramsey were motivated and wanted to impress the manager..

And an Iwobi who was always changing the game from the bench with his power,pace,directness,urgency and agility..

We conceded 5 at Anfield, Were 3-0 down at wolves,3-0 at Leicester and 3-0 in Baku with Xhaka/Torreira.