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MyExpression:
We would have unlearnt heterosexuality, if the Bible, Qu'ran and other historical and religious books have taught otherwise.

We were groomed into heterosexuality because it is a system that works.
We even support adoption for heterosexual couples.

Beyond the unique sexual/emotional pleasure gays get, which is their prerogative, there is the problem of biological continuity.
Nature itself has taught us that heterosexual intercourse is a part of her properties.

Homosexuality is not a sustainable way of life.
Even in heterosexual s3x, anal is not prevalent, how much more in men- with stronger muscles. It is a painful pleasure for some men involved in it, if not most.


I'm totally against abuse of human rights for all humans.
Closet or open gay, should not be discriminated against except on personal basis, which everyone is entitled to.

Corrupt politicians, prostitutes, ex-cons, smokers, drunkards et al, still get booed and discriminated on personal space, but they still get their due public rights.

In summation, what is logical should be done.
Humanity is intelligent enough to know what works.
You know the better choice.
Heterosexuality.
Promote it.

Yea....the Abrahamaic religions that have roots in Zoroastrianism,that would've been great but not everyone follows those religions and it's not right to make laws fashioned from them from everyone

Yea, it's obviously a system that works with a miniscule anomaly that's not even up to 5% of the world so I still don't know why it's still a problem

You literally don't need to be gay or straight for the continuation of life, before same sex adoption and even surrogacy rights were adopted by both same sex and opposite sex couples alike,lavander marriages were a thing for same sex couples,a gay man will bring a child into world with a lesbian as the mother due to societal pressure, it still goes on today. so the theory of race continuity holds no water especially in today's climate where having a child is no longer seen as a responsibility but as a choice instead regardless of your sexuality

Sex is subjective for everyone moreover I know gay people who don't like anal sex,just because someone is gay doesn't mean they love anal sex when their is mutual mast,frottage etc not to talk about gay transmen who still have their vagina intact,my
boyfriend is a transman and he still have his vagina so yes,gay men also screw vagina in gay transmen and just because someone is straight doesn't mean they love penile-vaginal sex, there's a whole reddit forum for straight couples who only do anal sex, it's literally a lifestyle for them now and if the man who's dominant knows what he's doing,anal sex can be the most pleasurable sex for both gay men and women,women mostly get full body orgasms from anal sex while gay get prostate orgasms from it and prostate orgasms are 8 times more intense than the penile orgasm and guess what? A prostate orgasm is just like a female orgasm without a resting or olfactory period like the penile orgasm is,you can go on and on and be cumming on the beat, it's a leg shaking life changing orgasm

MyExpression:
If sexuality can be learnt from the environment, then it can be unlearned.
If it was natural, than they'd have a case.

Since sexual orientation/affinity is learnt, and the larger society is calling it out, can't we all agree that it is an anomaly?
Should we continue in a wrong, coz most people are doing it?
Should we be corrupt, coz most politicians are corrupt?
Should prostitution be right coz most ladies learnt it as a survival means?

Same goes for homosexuality.
If it is a wrong influence at infancy, it shouldn't be tolerated in adulthood.

However, bad as it is deemed to be, its no one's business what two consenting adults choose to do in the bedroom, there are no bedroom rules for sexual pleasure...but if they bring it before the public eye, they better be ready to be put in their place.
What is wrong is wrong...there's no justification for it.
No special rights and privilege should be accorded them, and no discrimination should come to them too, except they publicly identify as one.

In that case heterosexuality can also be unlearnt if we are going by your logic, it's the demonization of homosexuality that people are fighting against and an anomaly is a defect in nature,just because something doesn't follow the norm doesn't deem it unnatural, notice I used the word "unnatural" not "abnormal"

Moreover,you are telling queer seeking for the same rights you enjoy as a straight person special rights

MyExpression:
Your assertions on Gender mannerism and human sexuality being environment-based, could be true, but what are the numbers...and environment?

If environment is responsible for grooming feminity and masculinity, does that also mean that being straight or gay is a factor of one's upbringing.
So if we have more straight men, than gay (inclusive of LGBTQ+), does that not mean the society might be right by calling out that form of grooming that practices an abnormality?

Read https://ericmcdon..com/2015/09/homosexuality-in-3-d-nature-early.html
...on Nature, Nurture and Lack.

Like I said we are making two different debates here,one on gender,the other on sexuality but environment does have a way of shaping both, that's what they both have in common

The concept of "born this way" refers to how you birth yourself as you grow,as you grow,the environment shapes your well being and who you are as a human being sexual-attraction wise so upbringing do play a part but not in all cases

MyExpression:
Masculinity is not a societal norm...it's a natural phenomenon.
Homosexuality is not natural, it is Learnt or influenced.
They need to stop giving room to such thought and ideologies from the early stage.

I've been in such space of indoctrination, I'm indifferent to them, but I'd rather they showed more control of their physical, mental and emotional agility.

Gays are too picky about their space and lifestyle.
Not open to other ideas (they don't even argue their point, they just dead the convo, with their sentiments about the person, not the point being discussed.)

There's skepticism, complex...and lack of EQ.

Ok,sex isn't gender, masculinity is not being male and no masculinity isn't natural, it's a norm and that's ok,no one is born masculine or feminine from the womb,they are traits learned as a child develops with the child's environment being it's primary teacher of those traits

Also,human sexuality is innate and not learned, please read more on the born this way concept,no one is born gay or straight

Moreover,you lot should stop associating gender mannerisms with human sexuality,two different things.....As an avid tourist,I have traveled round the world and I have seen the most manly man who's gay and the most feminine man who's straight and @the bolded,I think you mean straight people

Mrfeel:
Good.
So what exactly is your point of saying who is gay is gay ? What makes a guy turn gay in the first place?

My point is that porn doesn't turn anyone gay or straight, it's only a visual manifestation of your desires in action not the other way round

masterfactor:
It not toxic masculinity, it the fact, Man was created to be a provider and not the other way around.

That's the problem right there,the one-way thinking of what a man should be, that's what makes it toxic

masterfactor:
God4bid bad thing, A man was not created for that. A man who accepted such Such is a Simp.
Team Alpha

Any man who has to degrade another man's choice because of his one way view of what a man should be is not an alpha and later y'all will be screaming about toxic masculinity

Mrfeel:
Are you telling me people are born gay ?

Nobody is born gay or straight from the womb. The whole concept of "born this way" is that you birth yourself as you grow with environment and other factors affecting that growth,you birth yourself as you grow

surgebitcoin:
LBGTQ and Marijuana are not the same thing.Marijuana have medical benefits,it is in countries like Nigeria that criminalize everything without first checking if it will people or not.

You can make the same argument for homosexuality,countries criminalizing something without doing their research first

panafrican:
Are the Ghanaian authorities watering down the vigilance of their people on purpose to later introduce gay rights laws.
If 90 % of the country is impaired with all types of mental health, treacherous laws can be passed easily.
If Ghana ever try, that country should get ready to swim in the Atlantic to Europe or to the south pole, because Pan-African volunteers will
invade and tear down the moda foka laws of that country.

A pan African calling homosexuality a western import, that's super rich ....you must not know your history

Mrfeel:
Explain further pls

Anyone who's gay is gay,no amount of porn can change your sexual attraction

MyExpression:
This thing make sense to you ba?

Is a man's innate nature- to give, or to receive?

We're not homophobic...we just don't like spineless men.
They can't uphold the codes of brotherhood.

Lol,gay men are spineless men whereas you are not half a man or man enough to endure what they go through,Are you man enough to receive the hate society throws at them? A real man does whatever the hell he wants as long as no one gets hurt whereas you are doing what society considers as normal and wants you to do,go answer your master puppeteer strings. Moreover,your hate stems from misogyny,you hate feminity so much because it's associated with weakness so anything that acts like a woman is less than to you,go work on that because no man out there is a 100% masculine.

Also what are the stupid codes of brotherhood? To ostracize any man who's different from you? Is that what being a man is to you? Or for fighting and standing up against injustices for those who can't?

taylor89:
I no be gay

You just haven't had the right dick yet to hit that spot and make you shake like crazy,come....let me give it to you

P

Mrfeel:
I'm not denying the existence of homosexuals and lesbians they do exist , and it's common these days cause gay porn and lesbian porn videos are all over the internet teenage boys and girls who stumble on such videos like that most times end up becoming gay and lesbians that's why parents must monitors their children to know what they do on internet , my daughter is 17 but I have not given her a smart phone yet , I will buy her one soon cause she just finished secondary school but I will still monitor what she does on the internet

That's literally not how human sexuality works

Adranidoo:
As Women keep progressing career wise the number of men to consider marry decreases.

U can hire me as a male escort sha, a day = £50

Even with all the money in this world lonliness no be any body mate o

Most male escorts are for gay men even straight male escorts get the gist that being an escort for only women won't do shit, there are different sites for gay men seeking male escorts but there's only one site for women who seek male escorts and even that site is dying because you will rarely see a woman pay a man for sex and why would she? when she can get it for free,sex is very cheap abroad,I don't think sex is the loneliness she's talking about. Women need emotional stimulation and companionship unlike men that sex can solve their loneliness because we are visually stimulating

1Sharon:
Lol how do they prove they're gay?

Most are regular patrons of the bar and you have to come with a lesbian or know one in the bar who will vouch for you before letting you in

Koppaguard:
There was this cartoon were they mentioned a Nigerian Prince and scam, this people sabi us oo, though it was funny

It was also mentioned in the Scooby Doo animation,these people don see us finish

workchopNG:
How about creating the animation?

Exactly, animations are really hard, expensive and takes a long time to create than movies

Olatundex22:
seriously so it only queer kids what of we straight adults, I never see any signs at the beginning of it that gay is part of it. Representation matters! yeah so they should not be a sign am just saying because I don’t expect that part in that good movie story.

Yea.....like straight adults haven't been in 80% of movies,you are literally the majority, little representation that queer people have,you get your wings in a bunch. One of the directors of the animation is bisexual and one of the writers is gay so are you expecting them not to add people like them to the story? Also expect anything in a "movie storyline",just because it has a queer scene or gay characters doesn't take away from the film,if it's a good movie, it's a good movie......what you are implying is that queer characters don't belong in good movies,only bad movies

1Sharon:
I thought they had separate clubs?

Which is why I said lesbian bars but in most lesbian bars or clubs,only gay men are allowed in

Olatundex22:
yeah me too which is very bad for the lovely story movie

Una don come again, it's not bad because queer kids exist and representation matters

thatigboman:
this is slander. Not nice.

It's only slander to fools who still see the term "gay" as an insult

atheistandproud:
This gay thing can be a scam. I don't want to post private chats but I have a lesbian friend in Texas who said that a so-called gay man was thrown out of an LGBTQ lodge for sleeping with a quarter of the femme lesbians 🤣🤣🤣🤣. The butch lesbians were so mad.

They couldn't sue him because Texas law doesn't formally recognize them yet.

Yea, it's called gayfishing, straight men acting like gay to get into lesbian bars

1Sharon:
Lol. Now how did that happen?

I guess the lesbians weren't really lesbianing either if they could be seduced by a gay man.

The man wasn't actually gay and the girls were bisexuals, straight men disguise as gay men to get into lesbian bars

GreatAchiever1:
I really disagree with you, sir. Being a housewife is a full-time profession, thus there is nothing wrong with it. As long as hubby can support his family with the necessities and keep the house safe, there is nothing wrong with a man wanting a housewife and it isn't in anyway bringing down his self-esteem

Nobody ever claimed housewives were dullards nor nonentities; they take care of the family, help their husbands, nuture and educate their kids, which makes the house functioning, which in turn makes society functional. Yes there are ways they can make money for themselves, with handskills like tailoring, hairdressing, making stuffs, baking stuffs, online business etc, they can easily earn some cash from home while building the home.

Lastly, the wife is supposed to only be useful to the hubby first and the children, these should be her top priority after God. Lets forget about modern wokism culture.

I agree with everything you said if it's what the woman wants,a true feminist won't shame a woman who chooses to be a housewife because it's what she wants,feminism is about letting women choose

advanceDNA:
If u wont butcher me for meat for identifying as a cow....why treat trans women as real women.... they are not..??.

How did desire suicide get into this dialogue?? How can u compare identifying as something and wanting to be buthanized...besides, hope u know suicide by euthanizing is legal in aome countries...?? So i donr get ur point..

I give up on ur sexuality....talking about it gives me migraine

I personally will butcher you up if you said you are a cow,I've always wanted to taste human meat cow meat

Exactly why I used euthanasia because it's legal in some countries so it makes more sense

If there's anything my sexuality as of late taught me is that I can now connect with people regardless of their genitals,my sexuality in all is love

advanceDNA:
I ddnt forget u...you are the one that ran away when u couldnt answer my question: "if i identify as a cow as u respect everyone's chosen identity....will u butcher me for beef/meat" ??

Let me answer that....U wont butcher me for meat...cos u know deep down that identifying as something aint the same as being that thing naturally

.... so why do u lgbt folks allow grown asś men with their penís enter the same toilets with our young girls, exposing minors to possible sexual assault ...

.... why do u let men compete in women sport....

..why are men going to female prisons..

..u are taking this delusion and identifying with wateva u want too far..... its absurd...

And ur hypocrisy and double standards is very evident since u wont butcher me for meat if i identify as a cow...neither will u give me an European union or american passport if i identify as a caucasian.......... .


Now back your ur sexuality.....i dont get....How can a gay man fvck vagina yet be claiming gay....?? Aint u supposed to be allergic/immune to women sexual parts, including vaginas??

U lgbt folks just make things very complex.......

Wait...how can u be trusted in a relationship?? Cos..as it is....u are a man that can sleep with any type of human being, weda they have breastś or vagina, penís or just anus or no anus at all, even though u claim u are gay....

.. nigga? thats a dangerously broad spectrum of sexuality......

It's the same way if someone says they want to be euthanized and they feel they have the right to do so

As for bathrooms,I have always been of the notion that there should be gender neutral bathrooms for all but it's no biggie if a transwoman wants to use a woman's bathroom as long as she passes for a woman,not someone still in their heydays of transitioning

The sports body have already ruled in favour of common sense,that transwomen can't perform in women sports,wish they will also do the same thing to sportspersons born with an unfair advantage like Michael Phelps as it's pure misogyny since Caster Semenya was almost stopped from competing yet it's crickets when it comes to men who have an unfair advantage, how's that for double standard for you?

As for prisons, it's all good

Now back to my sexuality, haven't you ever heard that love is love? I said I was attracted to men not their genitals,same with you as you are attracted to women,you may see a transwoman who pass and be attracted to her and think she's a cis woman,that is attraction, it's up to you to pursue her or not. Yea,some gay man aren't attracted to vaginas but are beginning to do so because that vagina is on a male and masculine presenting body..... attraction to genitals is different from attraction to gender

advanceDNA:
Heyy ...how u doing man??.....arent u d dude that calls himself gay, yet you pressing breaśts and banging the vagina of a woman that calls herself a man??

I'm good man. I'm quite hurt you've forgotten me after all the banters about human sexuality we've had on this forum. Anyway I am gay because I'm attracted to men and masculinity in it's form regardless of their genitals,I had no idea he was even a transman when we went on our first date because of how masculine he was,he was even more masculine than most biological men I've seen and we connected instantly,I'm not gonna away that connection because he has a vagina. He's the most beautiful,honest,kindest and self sacrificing person I've ever met and penis or vagina will never change the love I feel for him

advanceDNA:
So lectures and turorials don dey go on in za oza room.......


By the way....isnt this supposed to be unethical yet, una dey post am....

Lol...One of his friends will soon be like... "guy.....i no do well for that risk management course at all... help me tell ur babe make she just give me let my pple go"...

Let me find your trouble small, it's been long since our paths jam

MrBrownJay1:
I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THE ABOVE.... there is no such thing as 50/50 men with feminine side. there is just 100%men or women that have traits that could be associated with a different gender,... and that doesnt make them any less 100% men or women.

IMHO, there is no such thing as feminine/masculine energy, there is just ENERGY, and energy doesnt have a gender. NO energy/character/emotion can be attributed to one gender. just because women are more emotional than men DOES NOT mean that being emotional is a feminine energy, it just means it is an energy that most women prioritize in their lives, but it certainly doesnt mean that if men do it too, there is a female side inside them that they are tapping into, lol!

here is the absurdity in this issue: supposedly, a man in touch with his "feminine" side, is a man who has traits mostly associated with women (aka highly emotional person and/or somebody who spend hrs getting ready and/or somebody who takes care of their appearance a bit too much and/or someone who has a caring job mostly associated with women, like nurse, babysitters, secretary etc)... such men are quckly called METROSEXUALS.... but a man associated with his "masculine" side aka a man who has the type of traits associated with men (like wanting to win all the time, being aggressive, showing strength and being loud during arguments etc), they will automatically call it TOXIC MASCULINITY.
so you see, thanks to these yeye feminist movements trying to rule the world and change the way we human function (and turn all men into biatch ass %&$#@), a man being a man is bad, a man being a woman is good; female traits are good, male traits are toxic; this state of mind is so deluded, i do feel sorry for men who believe in this ARRANT NONSENSE!

- a man who is highly emotional is AN EMOTIONAL MAN, nothing to do with feminine side BS.
- a man who is caring a bit too much about the way he looks/appears, is just A CARING MAN, nothing to do with this metrosexual arrant nonsense!
- an aggressive/violent woman is an AGGRESIVE/VIOLENT WOMAN, nothing to do with masculine energy.

pls dont confuse the above with gay/trans people out there who identify as women and/or act as women. these are homo energy (aka men who aint 100% mascuine and/or women who aint 100% feminine)...

In a non genderlized world where feminity isn't related with weakness and emotions and masculinity isn't related with strength and stoicism, everything you said would've made so much sense but not this world, humans are obsessed with labels thereby making every trait genderlized according to societal norms. Some black Americans see smoking shisha,being loud as a feminine trait, gender is all nurture not nature,it can be inspired by nature but it's not nature hence why men aren't gatekeepers of masculinity neither are women gatekeepers of feminity

There's nothing like "a homo energy" as gender mannerisms are different from human sexuality,as someone who is an ardent tourist,I have seen feminine straight men and masculine gay men,just because a man is feminine isn't telling on his sexuality and saying he will be gay,same way just because a man is masculine doesn't mean he will be straight

madscientist88:
have you been molested by an adult male as a child before?(a homo'sexual),what you are exhibiting is a sign of trauma and lack of self confidence which is often seen in people who have been raped before or bullied and gender shamed.you obviously need to see a councilor, another reason could be that you just find men attractive for some reason.

This is so spot on but I don't think he's gay,just feminine. As someone who've travelled the world,I've seen gay men that bears the mannerisms and norms of masculinity infact no one knows they are gay until you ask,they are dominant, confident and masculine and I've seen straight men like him who are feminine.....at the end of the day,no one is a 100% masculine and 100% feminine

Onucs:
Is this dude serious?

How would a guy be shy around guys?

Jeez, what am I saying. This is the 21st century, shit's glaring. Damn!
Another man down

This is the toxic masculinity people are referring to,not all men will be like you or what society have perceived to be a man and that's ok,men like you makes masculinity toxic, it's no wonder people are hating it now and that's how you treat a fellow brother? Instead of uplifting him,you are doing the opposite by bullying him because he's not like you