₦airaland Forum

gatiano:
Can you please tell me sir, the value of kolanut in Yoruba culture, its significant to spirituality? The Igbo don't joke with the kolanut and perhaps a lot of Black cultures.

It serve as food for Gods and ancestors. I dont know why Sango doesnt take it anyway

It very significant for divination. Obi Abata or the one called Alawe merin when casted represent one Odu.

It symbolize unity.

Obi re o, ki o bi ibi danu lori wa. . . . Ashe wa

gatiano:
Elijah Muhammad is a Blackman. Who had third grade education, he was raised by "God in Person, who was born of a Man" called Fard Muhammad.

Elijah Muhammad with the knowledge taught to him by Fard Muhammad, began to raise Black people up back to prominence and consciousness called ressurection. From 1930

Do not get me wrong sir, Not that there were not conscious initiates in Africa at the time, There were not many of them either. But the agreement was consciousness will begin from the most lowly, the rejected, the most despised who are those we call today African American.
"The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner stone."

So Perhaps, The Priest of the Eji Ogbe was on point. When did the African people began to rise up again?

And another question sir,
why do all black people have their history and spirituality in oral and not written?

What did this Mohammad Elijah said which you are trying to align with Ifa?

daijeet:
N I say I don't have!! Why is that soo Hard to believe? ? Because you have doesn't mean everybody must have..which community do you think am in that have elders?? You that have in your community ask them n come tell me

Are you for real? No Old man in your community?

Go to the church, mosque and public office. I believe you will find one there.

Your pastor, Imam and Prof do visit Babalawo. The doctor work with them hand in hand. Dont be suprised. They will reveal and lead you to one.

Ubenedictus:
in other words even the orishas identify with the successful

1. Success mean different thing to different people. Which ever way, every man is successful to their scope.

2. Orisha is the consciousness of natural entities.

3. There is an adage that goes thus; eni mo iyi obi ni obi n pe lenu re. Meaning kolanut last long in the mouth of those that know it value.

These show Orisha does not align to any one than others. Well actually, those that know it value understand it, feel closer and benefit more by utilizating for their own goal

gatiano:
Eni yara ni ogun n gbe, true! what about Iwa pele and Iwa suru?

If Ogun means metals, and we were told what the parents of the oyinbos did with the metal(ogun) also told by Elijah Muhammad, Then the proverb or the phrase "eni yara ni ogun n gbe" means a few other things rather than just a single point.

Example, Ogun is used to house the atomic weapon of destruction. Ogun in its natural view or perspective, destroys and rebuild, which is a necessary essense of every civilization.

Oyinbo does not destroy, they destruct. there is a wide margin difference between destroying and to cause destruction.

Who is this Elijah Mohammad?

daijeet:
if you are a babalawo and you want me to patronise you just say soo instead of draging matter like a market woman

Me Baba ke? I am Omode and dont Ogberi. So how can I be a Babalawo?

I am not asking you patronize anyone. I am only asking you to go oko awo with some elders.

daijeet:
from you posts gan, it seems you are, no need to hide, everybody now is going bck to their roots for solutions, it's nt a new thing

I am not saying there is something wrong in going to one root. All I said is that you should follow due process.

Like the Yoruba will say, eni mo oju orisha ni a n be lo we. The elders in your community know more than you do. And they will surely help you

macof:
Folykaze Ifa never made mention of Christianity. ..Islam maybe I don't know but nt christianity

Maybe you dont know this too.

My tutor told me this and did mention the odu but I cant remember again.

daijeet:
Guy, I asked for something on NL..if you don't have an answer or a positive response pls, parkwell...Must yu comment on something you don't know ni

Errm I have given you advice. When you need Babalawo, you dont shout around on a public forum like a market woman. Awo is not guru and epa. If you really need to consult a priest, meet an elder and they will help you out.

Or are you having an evil motive which makes you run from the elders?

daijeet:
if I had parents or elders that can lead me to one, I won't be here asking, who said anything about phone or online divination?? I asked for contact so I can get their address, cuz I know "Ifa dida" is not something that can be done online!

Ire oooo

What happened to them? I mean elders and parent?

It is not making sense to tell me there is no one elder person you can meet there. Na so people hate you reach?

Ubenedictus:
It seems even ifa favoured the white man more

Have you forgotten the golden words. . . .eni yara ni ogun n gbe.

What is all this public advert for? There are Babalawo in every hood. Dont you have elders or parent who can lead you to them?

Ask them to Na ese re si ita. That they should stress out your leg. They will understand what you mean and take you to some Baba they have trust in.

You guys should stop looking for phone and online divination. If you want to deal with babalawo, you dont need to make announcement in the market

gatiano:
I really couldn't give a precise meaning to "Ogbe". Thankyou you for translating it.

It relates a lot with the teachings of Elijah Muhammad a lot in terms of the making and the life of the oyinbo people. It is a different pattern, but it is completely the same thing.

1) It describe the physical features of the children as "oyinbo", but did not mention that of their Parents. The parents moved from their usual location into another place to birth the children

Elijah Muhammad as he also was taught, spoke of how 60,000 Black people moved away from their usual location to birth a completely different kind of people.

2) Ile-Ife was the usual location, Elijah Muhammad called it Holy-Land, Which to me means the same thing.

It was revealled thousands of years ago (9000 years) by the Elders before the maker of the oyinbo was born according to the teachings of Elijah Muhammad.
According to Eji-Ogbe, Ifa also revealled it from the starting of the chapter.
And many more.

Though as it was said which stands true, we black people are obssessed with always wanting to travel outside of Africa (yet it has another deeper meaning).
What have we gotten from the Oyinbo people besides of hell?

Ifa made mention of Oyinbo, civilization, slavery, christianity and Islam. I know in Otura meji, Imole - muslims are been described severally. This express only contacts, I just dont understand how this got anything to do with Elijah.

There was a line I learnt sometime ago. Ifa. Baba Agbonmiregun shawo lo si igberi okun. This mean Orunmila - the greatest philosopher taught people oversea about the secret of natural world, laws and everything in it and how to relate with them. China have iching, Middle east have kabbalah while in the far europe we have geomancy in europe. All these have sort of likeliness with Ifa which is more sorphisticated. So I think Ifa is trying to expkain contact there and not about which race would do better than the other one.

Ifa shows in so many verses relationship we had with Tapa, beni and larubawa. I have not found anywhere or heard from any priest that Tapa would do better than Larubawa or beni would do better than Oyinbo alawo funfun.

Can you explain where Elijah mentioned Ifa? Or prove to me where Mohammad thay said Blacks are slaves/donkey and should be killed affirm Eji-ogbe?




Eji Ogbe is from Meji ni mogbe which mean I support duos. It is a corpus that buttress on courtship, marriage and importance of unity.

The Change Wind is blowing fast

Eji Ogbe means I support duos. How does this relate to Elijah?

kossyablaze:
I regret voting for him.I'm still APC tho

How many votes did you give him? You can go to hell with that

Johnnyessence:
buhari pls employ babatunde fashola the minister of works,transport and industry.

Your ancestors are wise. That is why you have this wisdom

Somebody pls confirm if this is Nigeria in Africa in planet earth and not thr one in planet nubiru

Buhari shall crush Boko haram completely. #ibelieve

Lets make this trend pls

jcross19:
this is the reason blacks are still slaves to white because I could remember u. s. s. r they disintegrated with more than 16 countries but we africa find it hard to do so because in our pain is their gain. We black need to wise up.

China has the largest ecnomomy and largest population but do not yearn for disintegration today.

Must you follow the tail of the white? Are you the same?

I dont get the point here

Bridgetown:
Tired of hearing cheap talk.

You were not tired when the fedora hat kicked assss was there doing nothing for six years.

barrnchedo:
Talk is 10 kobo.

He boost of his plan because he knew that it is a well calculated and would yield good result.

Boko Haram making their last kick like a dying horse.

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