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goodheart02:
No you're the ignorant one. For you to talk about counties launching space weapons means you know not much. For your info The 1967 Outer Space Treaty bans the stationing of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in outer space, prohibits military activities on celestial bodies like the moon. So u see... Lol

On the other hand whether u launch a ballistic missile against America, be it an ICBM or SLBM, there are thousands of bases it will pass through before it gets to American homeland so it will be dudded on its way by any of those bases. It's nearly impossible for a ballistic missile to evade all the weapons defence systems of the US and NATO forces. And it's not an easy task for an enemy to get his Submarines close enough to use coasts without being detected. All these factors make it nearly impossible. If it were, China and Russia would have done that a long time ago, even during the Cold War era when the bad blood was much. Yes no weapons defence systems is 100% accurate, but a 98% accuracy is enough to save a country just as the Israeli Iron Dome did for them.


If China was as powerful as u and them claim, they should go ahead and fulfill their threats by bombing any US ship sailing close to their waters or better still sail their own war ship even close to US waters. They'll never try it!

This means you are not only ignorant, but you don't even bother to stop being it.

Here's US and Britain talking about Russia firing a satellite weapon in space.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53518238

Treaties mean nothing to most countries, including your almighty USA. There are also treaties against chemical and nuclear weapons but only a fool would believe the countries are no longer working on one.

Secondly, a submarine doesn't need to get all the way to the coast, they just need to split the distance and then the ballistic missiles will do the rest. Mind you, we are talking about supersonic missiles here that are extremely hard to detect and if the bases had half as effective defense systems as you think, why was Iran able to fire missiles to a US base in Iraq after the death of Soleimani? Why didn't they intercept them? What if those missiles had nuclear warheads? Please give me a break. The Iron Dome is only having a 90% effectiveness because it is going against outdated, homemade rockets with no evasion mechanisms. And whats more, a 90% success won't work well when we are talking about nuclear weapons. Look at the radius of the Tsar Bomba of Russia and look at the size of Israel. Total annihilation

I can say the same thing to you about USA. Why haven't they invaded Iran and North Korea after all of the threats if they were really as powerful as they claim to be? So far, 100% of all US enemies since WW2 have been poor countries and some like Vietnam effectively resisted them. As weak as Iraq is, it cost them almost a trillion dollars and you are here mentioning China. They only know how to pick on the powerless like typical bullies, same thing with China.

Every Igbo name should automatically be flagged at airports and the person should be THOROUGHLY investigated

RedEnergy:
No, you got it wrong. The difference is far beyond military complex or contractors profitability. The difference is in futuristic tech development. While Russia was busy building fastest missiles and China was busy building the largest Navy fleet in the world and making noise about it, the USA military has been busy making crazy futuristic high tech developments that will keep them as the strongest world superpower for another 1000 years. China is building hypersonic missiles, very impressive right? Well, it would have been impressive until you compare and see that the USA has been secretly building and perfecting it's quantum stealth technology. A technology that will give them cloaking ability. So while they are building fast missiles, America is building a military force that can be 100% invisible. Imagine having to fight with invisible soldiers and invisible fighter jets and an invisible aircraft carriers etc. Their enemy has already lost the war even before it starts, that's the Next Level of military warfare and advancement, and that's why USA defense budget is high like that. Even an enemy you can see is difficult enough to defeat, imagine having to fight against an invisible USA military that nobody could defeat when they were visible, is it when they are invisible you want to defeat them? Google Quantum Stealth technology and see for yourself what the Americans are doing.

Then there's nanotechnology that the US military is heavily invested in. Imagine having military drones smaller than a strand of human hair, military drones that you can't see with your eyes and have to use a microscope to view it because of how tiny they are. That's what they have been developing and perfecting, nano UAS and UAVs. They are also developing man-sized military robots that can follow orders and perform tasks, that is, they are building soldiers that can't die, building unmanned fighter jets etc. Ultimately, they are building a futuristic army and people think Russia and China are now superpowers because of hypersonic missiles. But US + EU are just using them to catch cruise while they're busy secretly developing futuristic weapons and military forces that will make them rule the world forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

What you are talking about here is mere theory while I am talking about what the whole world can obviously see happening. It takes hundreds of billions to maintain aircraft carriers, billions to maintain bases, billions to pay bogus wages to soldiers, and billions to build already existing weapons. If all of the money goes to research, then where do they get money for these expenses?

Secondly, every country works on secret weapons, especially nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. Contrary to what many Hollywood fans like suggesting, America does display their inventions. If their plans to build all those weapons were secret, then how did you know about them? how did you know about the human robots? If it's the stealth technology, I hope you are aware that complete stealth is not possible? If the F-35 and the S400 were to go hear to head, my money would be on the S-400.


The F-35 was hyped just like the Chinese weapons, and it failed so much that they had to redesign its OS, work on the oxygen system, etc so enough of the fantasy please. There's nothing distinguishing here, China recently displayed robotic sharks that can automatically seek and destroy underwater enemies.

aribisala0:
Does that argument not apply to Iran and North Korea?

Yes. Both countries are weak but they could still strike US allies. If they were as weak as 2001 Iraq or Vietnam, USA would have invaded them. After all, Iraq was invaded for the same "crime" that Kim Jong Un was showing off

RedEnergy:
2021 China defense budget around $200 billion. USA defense budget around $750 billion. Money wins wars. Ordinary small change Buhari bribed Kenya, they shipped Nnamdi Kanu to him, Igboho is still struggling with his own in Benin Republic. For the right price, they will ship Igboho to Buhari too. Now Imagine what Japan or India will do to help USA against China if they get like another $50 billion extra to what they have been getting before ? America doesn't just control the world with military power, they also control the world with money, free money they dash around.

Money wins war, but that's not where it ends. Many of you look at USA's budget without considering where the funds go. USA's weapons (and products by extension) are usually expensive and as world events have shown, their prices don't always match their usefulness. There's also the bogus amount paid in salaries and maintenance of so many bases (some of which are far away from its enemies in Asia).

For example, we have the S-400 which many countries and experts have rated above the THAAD and Patriot systems (which are far more costly).

The difference between US and other countries is that the military industrial complex is at liberty to maximize profit while companies in Russia and China can DARE NOT try that with their armies. So even though the US budgets more, the advantage isn't half as much as you think.

goodheart02:
Exactly bro. The world was actually sleeping when the US was working over night to create this web of strategies. Even the US mainland is far away from China or Russia's reach. Not every their so called hypersonic missile can hit any target of American soil owing to the distance. Sometimes I laugh when some ignorant folks on nairaland bring up their wack analysis of how China and Russia will decimate the West.

You arw actually the ignorant one here. A ballistic missile doesn't have to be launched from the home base alone. Submarines and carriers are there and now, countries are even thinking about launching space weapons.

Secondly, you seem not to be aware of the psychological effects of war. When the United states took their Thaad to South Korea, many of the citizens came out to protest. Once those nuclear warheads drop in one or two countries accommodating thosw bases, others will start pushing them out and rioting. And before you say anything, I hope you are aware that missile defense systems are never 100% accurate and all that it takes is for one bomb to hit home.

If USA was that more powerful than China they'd have invaded them a long time ago. America hates competition

emae009:
yen yen yen .... see Taiwan see China. Invade it or shut up. Too much noise dey cause headache.
Imagine if US were making this much noise on Iraq and Afghanistan

But they threatened North Korea and Iran. What did they do afterwards?

BinamRex:
Please, tell these morons. China will never overtake America militarily. It's just not possible.

Now this is a moronic post

That's how fools were hailing Britain as the strongest empire (on paper) until the Nazis humbled them

Countries are making great weapons at cheap prices while we are allowing USA to repeatedly humiliate us on the guise of human rights. This is the same country that sells and gifts weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel..

TarOrfeeek:
China
USA
Isreal


Even if Nigeria Army get craze foe head, we cannot try any rubbish militarily with those countries.

Nigeria has fallen so low in Africa regional politics, Rwanda and South Africa are now globally known pacesetter.

Fulani have really crushed the little goodness remaining inside Nigeria.

Every country has level. We have our mates in Africa and some parts of Asia, Europe, and America. But it also takes an Idiot to place Israel on the group of China and USA

psucc:
Some fellas here are claiming, howbeit falsely, that Kyari will come out of this clean.

If not for any other thing, the US will use this Kyari to prove to the world that Nigeria and her leaders are playing lipservice on fighting corruption.

Now is for him to either make a list of those he has worked for in such deals or keep bear his cross alone.

Not a big deal. The whole world is aware that USA plays lip service on human rights and democracy.

Kano is one of the few northern states that stand a chance to be our pride but unfortunately, religion is tarnishing it. Islam and Christianity must be kept where they belong if this country is going to ever smell development because we take them too seriously.

I was following BBC Hausa the other time when a report about the murder of a Pakistani man who had been ACQUITTED from the charges of blasphemy. To my shock, 70% of the comments praised the killer even though he was found not guilty. And then you wonder why the north has so many terrorists.

ZZ22:
mynd44 is not intelligent, an intelligent person knows when to talk and when to keep silent but in the case of mynd44 tribalism has eaten deep to his bone hence the ignorance and bitterness he displays here.

Being told the bitter truth has now become tribalism in the minds of ignorant, brainwashed ipob supporters. Reality will soon dawn on you though. So far, not even Britain has come out to condemn his arrest while you are here making noise

RolexOfGeneva:
Bros I'm well versed in International affairs. You can't lie to me. Russia was sanctioned by the European Union for annexation of Crimea.
Crimea is today recognized by the UN and most countries as Ukrainian.

Lol. Who's talking about EU and their laughable sanctions? Talk about the UN and the culprits that were brought to book. That said, what about the other countries? Why hasn't Nigeria been sanctioned for all of the massacres its troops carried out against Igbos and Shiites lately?

[quote author=RolexOfGeneva post=103838943][/quote]You are talking about theories while I'm talking about what's practically happening around the world. Nigeria has committed so many terrible atrocities recently: "illegally" arresting Kanu isn't among them.

If all of the international laws of the world are as applicable as Ipob supporters naively think, even Donald Trump would be in jail (for killing a General on a diplomatic mission to Iraq). I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you guys need to open your eyes. Musevini, Putin, Netanyahu, MBS, Trump, George Bush, Tony Blair, Junta, president Xi, Buhari, Obasanjo, Bashar Al aassad, etc should all be inmates now if life was as simple as you guys assume.

Let's not even talk about the many people who have been illegally arrested in foreign contries and kept in Guatanamo by USA. Democracy and human rights have one sole purpose in modern international politics: to be used as a propaganda tool.

TarOrfeeek:
You People could not even wait to resume your Igbophobia.

I am not Igbo but, the rest of Nigeria has envy and jealousy for the Igbos.

We need to repent.

Shut up. But you are okay with the entire Fulani tribe being tainted each time some elements commit crime in Nigeria. Inyamuri bastards are criminals

Inyamuri bastards can't do without crime. I spit on them

RolexOfGeneva:
You're wrong bro. Just as the Federal laws supercedes any States Laws, same way the International Laws supercede any National Laws.
Extrajudicial rendition is a serious breach of international laws and no national interest counts in such cases.

International law does not supercede state sovereignty and if you look at what's happening today, even the demicratic western nations occasionally go against international law. China, Myanmar, NIGERIA (e.g massacre on Shiites), USA, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, Iran, Uganda, UK, Syria, Russia, Ethiopia, Philippines, etc are some of the nations that have recently violated international laws with NO CONSEQUENCES and I'm sure there are many others than I'm not aware off. More importantly, these countries committed crimes involving illegal wars (USA and UK) , annexation (Russia), assasinations( Russia, Saudi Arabia), airstrikes against civilians (USA, Israel) , expansionism)(China), extra judicial killings (Syria, Uganda, Philippines, Nigeria), etc. If you think these issues are half as important as the arrest of some fugitive that has repeatedly encouraged unrest in Nigeria ON TAPE, then you are a clown.

kingsways:
NK has renounced Nigerian citizenship over and over in the past

You can't go overseas kidnap a foreigner and bring him to Nigeria. That's state sponsored terrorism and international law doesn't all that

Ipob and stupidity can never be separated. Who told you that denouncing citizenship is that easy? Chain!

Ojiofor:
Fulani is killing everybody be it Hausa,Tiv,Idoma,Igala,Gwari,Kanuri etc.....It is a continuation of Jihad.
Maybe one day everybody will start killing them.

You forgot to add that they also kill and kidnap other fulani people. And if you are waiting for the day everyone will start killing them, then better go and look for immortality pills cos you'll have to wait forever

I agree with him. Death to all Inyamuri terrorists

Ojiofor:
Muslims are doing the killings in order to displace the aborigines and take over their land thats all.

Then from whom are they taking lands in other parts of the north?

Simeonjoe1:
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Missile defense does not have 100% effectiveness, even boosting 60% will be a success especially against ICBM. Most nuclear warhead will slip through those defenses. That's why I said it's a no win situation for both sides.
Concerning the US tomahawk missile I believe that's not true, well its based on the news you chose to believe cause there's proprrgander and others around. That's normal as different people will want to promote or degrade your weapon system.

Since reports from BBC, Aljazeera, and Even pro-Trump Fox News were false, can you kindly give us your own source?

Both sides will suffer but it is very naive to think it would be a close battle. The size of Russia alone is a big factor.

ceereelee:
The greatest challenge of those against biafra is that these guys are everywhere. Unlike some people that can't move too far away from their cows

And what has being everywhere achieved for them so far? Last last, Cownu will be executed, a few countries will say some words of condemnation and then life will go on

Mikecold:
It is historically proven that Usman Dan Fodio was a jihadist that expelled non Muslims by killing and converting them

It is historically proven that all fulanis share the agenda of their father

Great! Then give me an account of any bandits forcing Christians to convert to Islam since that's their goal

Ojiofor:
Are Christians not victims of Muslim aggression in southern Kaduna?

Muslim aggression? No. That can only be possible if they are the only targets especially when there are millions of Muslims in the same southern Kaduna that have been affected

Simeonjoe1:
Don't underestimate the UK military and their war industry. While I believe Russia has a numerical advantage, the UK can also stand on its own. It has its number and technological proven weapon. Comparing weapons 1 on 1, most UK weapons are technologically superior to its Russian counter part. UK also have an effective and well trained fighting force. Forget most of those Russian weapons are old and outdated from the ussr Era, they only have limited effective ones (but they have been improving on this), even their large military combatant are less experienced and professional compare to the UK (that's why Russia is massive cutting down its active service member down to create a more robust and effective fighting force).
Guy concerning nuclear weapon you don't have to target the whole of Russia or kill every one, all you just have to do is effectively cripple your opponents(targeting strategic locations). And like I said the UK stock is enough to decimate the Russian over and over again

There are so many factors you are not putting into consideration. Both UK and Russia have good missile defense systems which can intercept those missiles so UK will have even less chances of winning.

In fact, a lot of those missiles don't have perfect precision. I remember how More than 50% of US Tomahawk missiles failed to hit their targets when Trump fired at Assad's forces.

Simeonjoe1:
Why I believe China military is growing very fast they still have a lot of catch up to do which I believe won't even be in the next 5 decades. Note the US military is not stagnant they too are growing in sophistication and are aware of the Chinese threat which is even keeping them up on their toes. While China military is nice and shiny atleast all those are paper capabilities, the Chinese military has not been proven in actual modern multidimensional warfare. Until they prove their military might and doctrines in warfare the Chinese military will always be under the shadow of the USA and even technically Russia

Has USA proven her own might in modern warfare? The last major power it fought was during WW2 (and China faced them shortly afterwards in the Korean war). Fighting mushroom countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc and even LOSING to Vietnam is not a real test. These are countries that any decent superpower can beat.

Mangekyo:
Well you're right, it isn't always what's on paper. But again, Russia are miles ahead of them. They have to be very strategic to stand a chance.

UK isn't that big compared to Russia. If Russia can deploy 500 nuclear weapons into UK territory, I doubt if they will survive.

50 Tsar bombas will do the job

Mikecold:
Fulani terrorists care about religion they are not bandits

Then show me any video of herdsmen pledging allegiance to Islam like boko haram does.

Ojiofor:
The question is,why are the muslims killing everyone?
What is it.Na only una waka come?
Una go kill as Bokoharam kill as ISWAP kill bandits kill as Fulani herdsmen haba na wetin?

First of all, I don't subscribe to religion as a whole. It makes one stupid so why don't you look for any muslim you know and ask him? Besides, even Christians did their own madness in the past as mass graves of children killed by catholics are still being dug out in Canada.

My point is that you Christians love acting like victims all the time. All of these groups have killed more Muslims than Christians but you try to make it look as if you are the only ones being targeted.

Mikecold:
no one asked you the family you came from

If Muslims can't fix their doctrines between themselves that consumes them that is their personal issue

It's not supposed to be government or another group to help them with it

If they now extend their disease to those who aren't of their faith then it's a problem

Like I said, my family background has immunized me from your idiotic mindset. What we want is peace for everyone and not for one religious group.

Secondly, you don't even have an understanding of who bandits are. Most of them care very little about religion. All that they know is their cattle, and most especially, their money. They have no allegiance to religion so if you can't wish for peace, then you are welcome to keep ranting. I'm done here