₦airaland Forum

Nowenuse:
Agenda my nyaash. You people that start shaking, shivering and catching could when Nnamdi Kanu was in Nigeria rallying and gaining popularity.

When Python dance came on Nnamdi Kanu your people were masturbating everywhere in orgasm and happiness.

If you Yorubas truly believe in yourselves, your superiority and self sufficiency, you guys would have been at the forefront on seccession agitations in Nigeria.

See Catalonia, they believe in themselves and know that they will do better without Spain and that is why they want out.

You Yorubas only brag about your self sufficiency online, but as soon as you hear Igbos seccession force hitting hard, you start pissing on your pants.

Actions speak louder than words, you guys are the biggest unity beggars in Nigeria.


Personally, my own group will soon start sponsoring pro seccession rallies from Jos to Kaduna to Nasarawa & Taraba, Abuja, Benue e.t.c.

I promise you guys will see this by latest next year.
Then we will know who the true unity beggars are.

Cc Legendhero, Myobjective, forgiveness

If Yoruba wants to secceed, they will with ease.

Nowenuse:
What a very stupid list and argument. Ondo, Ogun & Oyo are 80, 80, 81, so u are leaving these states to use Lagos State literacy? Lagos State which half of it's population are non-Yorubas?

You are just interested in making noise.

You are asking me who are the Itsekiris?
Who are the Yorubas?

Two states apart from Lagos has 90. Lagos state is Yoruba dominanted in population and everything.

According to your logic, Rivers state is dominated by non SS.

Just swallow your pride and agree SW are ahead of any region in Education.

You are the one making unnecessary noise here.

SW

Ekiti - 95.79
Osun - 90.97
Lagos - 96.3
Ogun - 81.79
Ondo- 81.15
Oyo - 80.25


SS

Akwa Ibom - 78:84
Bayelsa - 86.83
Cross River - 89.03
Delta - 87.43
Edo - 90.53
Rivers - 95.76

Itsekiri are under the umbrella of Afenifere. A Yoruba social cultural group. That's who Itsekiris are.

Anambralstson:
Even Abia you guys condem every day on media and accuse their leaders of being criminals, actually ranked low in debt when compare to western states, Abia rank higher than Oyo, Ekiti and Osun in sustainability index

Aba has lots of potentials but unfortunately, over the years, being run by mediocre leaders.

However, infrastructures are in decay as I write.

Anambralstson:
I saw this thread late, I'm much interested in this please can you open thread, even after GDP table your brother posted

Can you please bring 2019 data? This is 2017 data hence outdated. Thanks

Nowenuse:
Chaghoury & Dangote are investing in Lagos because of the high money & human capital there, the high population and huge market and half of it are Non-Yorubas.
Why don't they go and invest in Ibadan, Iseyin or Iwo?

Make una nor worry now, Nigeria will divide in less than 10 years from now. We will witness all these things.

Business has been thriving in Lagos before any ethic group in Nigeria ever set foot on the soil of Lagos.

Besides, Glo, Oando, Famfa, GTB, First Bank etc are all investment of Swners. They are bigger investors than Chaghoury & Dangote in Lagos state.

Nowenuse:
SS are about 25 million people by estimates. Besides, what does their population matter? Are we not talking about education percentages here?
Bring any statistic that shows Yoruba states more educated than SS states.

See stats below. Three SW states with the average of 94%. Fact

People like Legendhero will now say that Yorubas are better than Nigerdeltans because they Nigerdeltans do not brag and post long lists of their rich and big business people online.

Which area are the Nigerdeltans better?

Oga, I get am before nor be property... And the first to start is not always the first to finish.

Itsekiris & Benins traded with the Portuguese since the 15th century and they had people who travelled to Europe to school in the 16th century. How many of such people do Yorubas have?
The entire Southern Nigeria have an equal educational level right now, it doesn't matter who started it first.

Have you agreed SW was far educated than the North as at 1920?

Besides, who are the Itsekiri?

You can see why I am correct.

And besides, that picture of Abeokuta you claim is 1913 is a lie from the pit of hell! That picture is for Ibadan in the 60s when Cocoa money was flowing into the Western region.

Do u know what 1913 is?

You Yorubas just lie passionately to boost your ego, that is very bad.

The first picture is Ibadan. The church building was built in 1851.

Railway was connected to Ibadan from Lagos in 1900.

LegendHero:
Lol. Thank you for busting the lies of Nowenuse. I know he is not lying intentionally but I think he is ignorant about many things.

Why will he compare Kano with Ibadan in those days? Ibadan that the British themselves termed the best city after cairo in the 1880s is what he is comparing with Kano.

I will try to find that paper where the british termed Ibadan and attach it to this post when I get it. What the bleep is Kano?

He is definitely ignorant and he needs to be enlightened.

[quote author=Nowenuse post=88454438]SW Ajami learning was only limited to Oyo before colonialism. You cannot compare it to that of Hausa land that was everywhere...

You are wrong. It went beyond Oyo and extended to Ijebu, Abeokuta, Ibadan and Ilorin.

From Timbuktu, Islam was introduced to Yorubaland towards the close of the eigthteenth century (Johnson, 1966), Though the land of the Yorubas was known to the Muslim world probably before 1627, as a location where paganism is prevalent, Islam had no root in it (Fafunwa, 1991). Learned Islamic scholars formally brought Islam brought to Yorubaland through Ilorin in 1830. Some of these scholars made contacts with Ibadan, just about the time the town was established, and later with Ijebu-Ode and Abeokuta. Ilorin became a center of Islamic learning with large number of basic and advanced schools established to teach Islamic religion. Ilorin often received famous Islamic scholars from Katsina, Kano and other areas of the North-West. With the passage of time, Ibadan became a renowned center of excellence in Islamic education, with the construction of many mosques and Islamic schools to encourage spread o


However, we are talking about education in 1920.

How many Hausa Fulani were Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Architects, journslists etc in 1990?

[quote]Did Yorubas use Horses, chariots & Camels? How then could Yorubas have been traveling more than Hausas before 1920? Oga take am easy oo! Don't come and disgrace your people here by telling lies.

Yes, Yorubas used Horse, cars and train as at 1920. Fact

I am not saying civil service is useless, no, but in a very cosmopolitan and commercial state like Lagos, it's effect is very insignificant. Can Lagos State civil service employ 20% of Lagos state's population?

If civil service is insignificant, how can Lagos generate igr?

Nowenuse:
Oh, do u think Yorubas are more educated than Nigerdeltans? I doubt this.
We Middlebelters are still yet to fully catch up to Southerners in education, but we have closed that gap widely unlike 20 years ago.

Who are Niger Deltans? Benin, Itshekiri, Uhrobo, Ijaw, Efki, Ibibibio, Ukwani, Ikwere, Ogoja, Oron, Yoruba, Igbo, Kalabari and Annang.

What is the population of each ethnic groups?

Which of them embrace education?

Out of these, Uhrobo, Itshekiri, Ukwani, Benin, Igbo and Yoruba go to school in large numbers. The rest, I don't think so.

What is their population combined?

You must not argue for argument sake all the time. Yorubas had a handful of educated people at that time, but Hausa fulanis had hundreds of thousands of people who could read & write in Ajami at that time. They had schools and they travelled and traded transaharan routes very well.

These are the oldest schools in Nigeria. Where they empty?

Fourth bay College was established in the 19th century and the first student was from SW.

Nigeria's Oldest Secondary School


(1) Baptist Academy, Lagos : 1855
(2) CMS Grammar School, Lagos: 1859
(3) Methodist Boys High School, Lagos : 1878
(4) Methodist Girls High School, Lagos : 1879
(5) Hope Waddell Training Institute, Calabar: 1895
(6) Saint Annes School, Ibadan : 1896
(7) The old Wesley college, Elekuro (now Wesley college of science, Ibadan) : 1905
(cool Abeokuta Grammar School, Ogun : 1908
(9) Kings College , Lagos : 1909
(10) Alhuda College, Zaria : 1910
(11) Ijebu-Ode Grammar School, Ogun : 1913
(12) Eko Boys High School, Lagos : 1913
(13) Government Secondary School, Ilorin : 1914
(13) Government College Katsina-Ala : 1914
(14) Etinan Institute, Etinan, Akwa Ibom: 1915
(15) Ondo Boys High School, Ondo : 1919
How many doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, journalist etc did North produce as at 1920?

Can u compare Old Kano city by 1920 with Ibadan?

See the picture of Kano in 1913 in the first picture. Compare it with Ibadan and Abeokuta in 1913 in the second and third pictures respectively. Which is more developed?

Nowenuse:
During the military era, were Yoruba states not ruled by Hausa fulani rulers? Did that destroy or change the people living there?

Hausa fulanis are only ruling Kaduna because of Zaria, divide the state and who will be there?

Was an Ebira man not the governor of Yoruba majority Old Kwara state?
Are Fulanis not the kingmakers in Kwara state?

Jos is destroyed, but it looks better and even attracts more foreigners than all other Yoruba cities apart from Igbo economically controlled Lagos. And your filthy Yoruba people will still never leave Jos no matter how much they are killed.
Who is the joke on now?

These are those responsible for installing an Emir in Ilorin.

Whenever the throne of the emirate (which is vested in the Fulani descendants of Shehu Alimi) is vacant, the representative of each quarter in the Emirate namely; the Balogun Gambari (Hausa), the Balogun Ajikobi (Yoruba), the Balogun Fulani (Fulani) and the Balogun Alanamu (Yoruba) - along with the head of the Afonja chieftaincy family, the Mogaji Aare, and his sub-chief called the Baba Isale of Ilorin - come together to elect and install a new emir,

Do the Igbos dominate the Service sector of Lagos state?

Nowenuse:
Ilorin a Yoruba town is still being ruled by an Emir till today till tomorrow, shame no dey catch una?
Kaduna & Jos are the 2 biggest cities owned by Northern christians, can u show me an Emir there?

Hausa fulanis cannot withstand Northern christians united and they know it, but you and them will destroy each other over Ilorin, watch it.

Ilorin was a mere war camp (not even a village) during the reign of Oyo empire. It has no cultural and historical value or any significant to the SW.

It was not taken by conquest. Ilorin people decided to follow emire at their own volition but never gave him full control until the British came.

Nowenuse:
Of course, u guys were first exposed to these things, but other Nigerians have matched up with you guys in these things.

100 years ago, Hausa fulanis were the most educated and well travelled Nigerians. Today is that still the case?

Who are the other Nigerians apart from Igbos? None.

100 years ago was just 1920. How many Hausa Fulanis were doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, journalist etc?

SW had large population of educated folks as at then. If you are talking about the Ajami script era, do remember Yoruba was written in Ajami scripts as far back as in the 17th century in Oyo empire.

SW travelled more than any group in 1920. Fact

If you think SW are relenting on getting education, you are totally wrong.

Bringing in the civil service here is rubbish. Is Lagos a civil service driven state?

If you are talking of industries in Lagos, can you really beat your chest and say that the Industry sector in Lagos has a higher worth and contributes more to the citizens of Lagos than the SME industry?

It counts because it accounts for substantial amount of people and it is what makes the state function effectively. The fact that you rubbish it speaks well of how other states neglect this vital part of governance.


Who dominates in the service sector of Lagos state? Let us defer the talk on industry.

Nowenuse:
What you are saying makes sense, but it is only applicable when these settlers do not have a large population of that area.

Do u know the percentage of Igbo middle-class citizens living in Lagos? I don't even think Yorubas will outnumber Igbos per middle-class citizens in Lagos.

Can Asians match English middle-class in London? Your analogy is not good enough.

Imagine if half of the Middleclass citizens in London relocate.... Will it not shake London to the core?

The question is, who runs the service and industrial sectors of Lagos state?

Who runs the civil service of Lagos state?

Nowenuse:
Schools & Businesses are mostly in the SW because of Lagos, nothing else.

No! Because large number of South Westerners were exposed to education, trade, Morden architecture, media early before any group in Nigeria. Don't forget the Ibadan was far developed and prosperous than city in Nigeria and sub Africa when it was the capital of western region. Fact.

jl115:
I'll give him to you .........Im only claiming him because forgiveness is claiming Non Nigerian like Giannis Sina Ougko Antetokounmpo and Anthony Joshua as Nigerian

No, Froome is not South African like Giannis is Nigeria because Froome doesn't have South African's passport as Giannis possess Nigeria's passport. The difference is clear.



Antetokounmpo said he also got his Nigerian passport in 2015.

When asked why he acquired a Nigerian passport, Antetokounmpo answered, “It’s important. It’s part of who I am. Both of my parents are Nigerian. They wanted me to get it. I wanted to have it, so I got it.”

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leveraging on technology.... it's available on Google play store for every android phone

Nigerian youths already did that. Kudos to Ghana.

jl115:
Well it makes no difference since i never claimed him as SAn

Edit: "Despite this, his dual citizenship has been cited by some as a reason why his victories have not yet been as firmly imprinted into the British public’s imagination"

Kenya and British. Not South Africa.

Stop lying.

Froome said: "Although I was riding under the Kenyan flag I made it clear that I had always carried a British passport and felt British.

jl115:
He has a South African Passport thus technically speaking he is South African

Also unlike you im not claiming people that have not represented SA as South Africans.........You are however are doing the opposite

Chris Froome is not SAn just like AJ is not Nigerian

Stop lying to yourself. He doesn't have South Africa passport.

AJ is Nigerian by heritage and he holds a Nigerian passport.

On the penultimate day of the Tour de France, Chris Froome said he knows there are many people in Africa who will be proud of his efforts. His passport and team might be British, but his roots are very much under the African sky.

jl115:
Just like Anthony Joshua and all those all time great NBA players you listed

I didn't lie about that but you lied.

jl115:
Roger Federer was born to a South African mother and holds a South African passport

FYI lets not forget that you have also claimed a number of NBA players and Boxers that have never held a Nigerian passport or represented Nigeria as your own!!

Is Afrikaans Froome Intl passport?

Is Froome born to a South African parents?

Was Froome born in South Africa? Keep focus.

jl115:
Because at that time he wasn't good enough to qualify for the South African team as he was only a teenager!

And he neverdid. EOD

jl115:
Has Anthony Joshua ever represented Nigeria?

Was Froome born to a South African parents? keep focus.

jl115:
He has a South African passport bro

And he can speak Afrikaans..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7pgnkbiQ7M

P.S im still not claiming Chris Froome as South African........However by the same standard Anthony Joshua is not Nigerian!

Is Afrikaans his intl passport? Anthony Joshua case is different because he was borrn by a Nigerian parent and holds a Nigerian passport.

jl115:
Besides for his passport

Have you agreed he never represented South Africa at any time?

The irony was when he flew all the way from South Africa to Kenya to represent Kenya national team. Bhuahahahahaaha!

jl115:
Besides for his passport

He has a Kenyan and British passports. Stop lying.

jl115:
Was Anthony Joshua born in Nigeria?

Anthony was born to a Nigerian parents. Was Froome born to a South African parents?

We know Froome was born in Kenya.

jl115:
Accept the fact that he is a South African citizen.

He never claimed to be. Stop lying.

jl115:
Who is Froost?

Was Froome born in South Africa?

jl115:
Roger Federer Has SAn heritage and the others where born in SA making them more SAn than Anthony Joshua is Nigerian

Was Froost born in South Africa?

jl115:
"Froome turned professional in 2007, aged 22, with the South African team, Konica Minolta"

Konica Minolta is a club just like Chelsea and Madrid.

He never represented South Africa. Stop lying.

jl115:
fair enough he represented SA and Kenya...

Only difference I'm actually not claiming him as a South African...... I'm only doing so using your flawed logic

FYI I'm also and never have claimed SAn that don't represent SA as our own

He never represented South Africa and doesn't have anything to do South Africa.

jl115:
he started his professional career representing SA

which tournament?

You think you can come here and lie?