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Taliban:
What about Okon?

Okon seems to be the missing link in the Super Eagles. With him in the midst of SE, we can go places.

He is just good.

zoboizee:
When i saw Super Eagles played at the last World Cup i knew nigerian football is dying. With this first half display, it is confirmed. Aigbogun is either afraid of someone's choice of players for him or didn't have taste for unearthing good one. His team lacks bite in every department. Just few stand out players ( ogbu, micheal, success & oforboh) which of course were never part of the team from the scratch.

I don't think Nigeria's football is dying. Just bad selection is the major problem.

Danielnino00:


Except that he is 33

He played for and captained Bayelsa united too .
He must be really good for Benin to call him up. considering that npfl games aren't on TV..

Humility017, Forgiveness and the foreign born crew must be cursing the NFF now for losing such a gem

Not every foreign player is gem. You can spot the difference.

realpoacher:
I should do all of these because i am who? .. Amaju Pinnick?

Must all of us be a stakeholder before the right thing can be done?

You can be if you aspire to be.

I think it is one of the two ways I suggested to get things done.

realpoacher:
Its annoying to see that our rant here amounts to nothing, yet we go on and on and on arguing daily about everything bad concerning our football.

I think is better we find a way of getting our thoughts and discussion over to the NFF somehow. Its either we further our discussion on the NFF Twitter page or do something else.

We screamed to high heavens during the AYC about these Grandpas yet Mr Paul flew them over to Poland.

We have been screaming loud here and tracking most of our Foreign boys here yet they keep getting ignored while their resident countries snap them up.

We on this thread have to do something, anything somehow. Our suggestions, our cry, our comments must be heard. If the lazy NFF have to follow this thread as scouting ground for our boys overseas, I don't care.

Cc tbaba, icons, christkels, thegoodjoe, andrew44, junnyjake, forgiveness, komekn, Bascovanveli, Humility, etc you guys have to spearhead this one way or another

I am tired of empty ramblings without end product

If you want to change anything you have to be the gladiator and not the spectator. That's, you have to go into full politics or form a football TV station that is devoted to scout, criticize, analysis, inform, etc everything that has to do with Nigerian football and players.

It is a very expensive project.

Danielnino00:
Marko Grujic is the only player that Klopp has signed and sent on loan.. I've said it several times here, Klopp is very much in charge of transfers at Liverpool and he doesn't sign players he doesn't need..
And if you read my post clearly you would have seen that I mentioned that Chukwueze is being scouted to replace Shaqiri if he leaves.. Shaqiri managed to play 30 games even as a squad player... I don't see why Chukwueze can't get that amount of game time too. Your beloved Solanke wasn't half as good as Chukwueze when Klopp signed him but he still managed to get into the first team and play 27 games, so why won't Chukwueze get that number of games too??

When was Solake bought?

andrew444:
Yes I agree wijnaldum and mane are at higher level than chuks nah

But anybody can be bought to the Liverpool team

Robertson was bought from hull

Coutinho was fvcking average before Liverpool o ,he was not a starter at inter Milan he was even loaned back to Brazil before espanyol loan

I remember coutinho playing with kalu uche at espanyol

Liverpool made coutinho world class .

Chuks is an average young player ,Liverpool can turn him to something else

I have already said chuks won't start at Liverpool he will have limited game time from the bench

My argument was komekn mentioning seyi ojo and co who I know chuks is better than

It is not, they are at higher level but they have been at the higher level before coming to Liverpool.

Humility017:
the mention of seyi ojo made him give in to the argument....
seyi ojo is one of his boys...

I don't think you know about the history of Sheyi Ojo at Liverpool. So it is expedient you have a piece of it.

Fact still remains that Sheyi Ojo played and performance well when he was given the chance to prove himself at Liverpool.

edi287:
Wijnaldum and Mane were at a higher level than Samu is at the moment when they moved to Liverpool(more experienced as well).
Wijnaldum scored 11 league goals as a CM at Newcastle in his first season before moving to Liverpool. This also came after being captain of PSV and scoring 14 league goals from midfield too.
Mane was chased by Manure and Arsenal before he signed for Liverpool. Infact Van Gaal made him his top target that season and did everything in his power to get him.
Samu is super talented with massive massive potential. However, people should remember he'll be up against Mane and Salah if he signs for Liverpool.
All these examples of Gomez, Matip and Robertson makes no sense at all. The caliber of competition they faced is child play compared to what Samu will.
Truth is if Samu moves to Liverpool he won't become a regular until one of Salah or Mane leaves.
Expecting a Robertson and Gomez like breakthrough is a bit crazy.

Exactly.

Humility017:
one of the few reasonable comments
at the opposing and unlike those comparing samu with seyi ojo

Nobody did.

[quote author=alekside post=78755338][/quote]Bold it because I can't see anything like that.

alekside:
You are the ignorant LFC fan

If a player is good enough he would be given the chance to play at Liverpool no matter where he's from.

Can you tell me the development of Sterling?

Don't use Google.

alekside:
But you've been trying to prove that a player must have some certain reputation before they can join a world class club like Liverpool.

Where did you read that from? Show me.

alekside:
Oga, you are the one talking ignorantly.

I am a full blooded Liverpool fan and I follow some of these players.

You are surely a ignorant fan because I am equally a Liverpool fan.

andrew444:
No they are world class like Barcelona Madrid and co

Mtscheew

You don't know anything. Somebody downgrading Young boys and that Salzburg for FC Midtjylland.

alekside:
It is simple, they are not good enough. If you are good, irrespective of how young you are, Klopp will give you the playing time. TAA, Joe Gomez, Robertson and Rhian Brewster are classic examples.

Seyi Ojo, Kent and Wilson were also given chances but they were deemed not good enough hence why they were loaned out. You can argue the case of Wilson who was has been outstanding at Derby but Seyi and Kent have not lived up to the expectation.

Who told you they are not good enough?

Only Sheyi Ojo was given chance and he performed. Stop all this ignorant talks.

alekside:
So, what did Robertson, Gomez and Matip win before joining Liverpool?

I don't know them. I only told you what I know. So stop changing topic.

andrew444:
So Red Bull Salzburg is a world class club ?

Your own dey your body

Are dey average clubs?

Humility017:
yeah he won the under 17 medal...?
did mane and the names you mentioned to be proven world class players prior their signing for Liverpool won any of fifa world cup medals?

Wijnaldum already won FIFA world cup bronze medal, Dutch league, Dutch best players player of the year etc before he joined Liverpool.


Mane already won CaF best 11, Austrain best player, Austrain league, etc before joining Liverpool.

Don't compare them with Samu because they were far ahead of him before they joined Liverpool.

Humility017:
Lol...I am so surprised at forgiveness words...
they were proven world class players...

save for Sallah...those guys were not really known prior their signing for Liverpool.
but with the right philosophy, guidance and hard work...they've made it to the top.
a young player..recognized to be among the top 20 best young players in europe too 5 leagues...and here someone is trying to downplay his potentials and recognition just to promote a mediocre player like seyi ojo

You can't change the fact that Ojo broke into the first team of Liverpool. Fact

It is only an ignoramus that doesn't know Wijnaldum and Mane before coming to Liverpool.

Earthquake3:
Do you know what a proven world class player means?

Has Chukwueze won FiFA world cup medal?

Earthquake3:
Wilnaldium at Newcastle was a proven world class player

There's nothing someone won't hear on this thread

If you only heard about him before he came to Newcastle, I can't help you.

I already knew him long before he came to EPL.

safarigirl:


Proven world class players?

If that is so, then Chukwueze is equally a proven world class player by such standards. Since, all you have to do is stand out in an average club to be a proven world ckass player, then by all means, Chukwueze has achieved this.

PSV and FC Red Bull Salzburg are average clubs, abi?

Chukwueze has not achieved quarter of what these have achieved.

I know these players before they joined Liverpool.

tbaba1234:
None of these players were world class at the time of their purchase. Mane was in Southampton before Liverpool. Wijnaldum was in Newcastle.

They were proven world class players.

Danielnino00:
Your pal said Liverpool are only after world class proven players...
So u are telling us that Wijnaldum and Mane were world class before joining Liverpool??

They were proven players before coming to Liverpool. Fact

But Samu is still considered a great prospect and a potentially world class according to Tbaba.

Danielnino00:
Sheyi Ojo isn't 18 my friend..He is 21 .. And he had 0 goal and 1 assist in 17 appearance for Stade Reims this season..

Where did you read Ojo is 18?

tbaba1234:
In case you haven't noticed, Samu Chukwueze is one of the biggest prospects in La liga. There is reported interest from the likes of Barca, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid.

It is ridiculous for you to compare him to the likes of Harry Wilson, Sheyi Ojo and Ryan Kent..Who are those?

Even your initial statement does not stand up to scrutiny, How many players in Liverpool were world class when they were purchased??

Was Wijnaldum world class when he was purchased?
Was Mane world class when he was purchased??
Was Trent Alexander world class when he won a shirt?
Was Firmino world class when he was bought??

Chukwueze at this moment is considered a great prospect, potentially world class with the right guidance, that is why these big teams are chasing him.

Wijnaldum, Mane and Firmino already made names for themselves with individual laurels before coming to Liverpool. Don't compare.

I knew Wijnaldum when he turned heads in the Dutch league. Due to this he was made Captain of PSV at a very young age and even won Dutch footballer of the year.

Even Mane was the best player in the Austrian league before he came to EPL to continue his performance.

safarigirl:
Who is Seyi Ojo? Who is Harry Wilson? Who is Ryan Kent? What clubs have they played against? How did they stand out against them?

Once you hear a Nigerian player's name, you will want to compare him with every flash in the pan player born in Britain.

Sheyi Ojo broke into Liverpool's team at 18 years old during the summer of 15/16 season and he was impressive in those matches he played.

2 goals and 5 assists in 13 matches (all competitions) is not bad for a 18 years old player.

Ryan Kent is very promising.

Earthquake3:
Guess who's top scorer for the Danish league for the 3rd time in a row

He never won it. Stop lying.

Shior!

Donmedra:
there are people 10 times richer than bill gate and they aren't on Forbes list.

Who?

I watched Osimhen last game for 45 minutes and it seems he is not different from a Onuachu.

He needs to behave else he will get red card in the AFCON if he reacts the way I saw him reacted against referees decisions in that match he scored a brace.