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Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 8:44am On May 08, 2019
Amujale:
Not true, the bible isnt even an historical document.

The "Guiness book of Records" is a historical document.

The bible as a plagerised text, is one of the most dangerous and unhealthiest pieces of literature anywhere in the world today.

Kindly STOP and THINK!

The bible is A FRAUD.

The bible is NOT what it claims to be, in all honesty, the christian bible and all other Abrahamic text are themselves plagerised text from Africas earlier civilisations.

Most people have NOT even bothered to devote enough time to read the entire bible; that which i have at least more than once.

The authors of mostly all Abrahamic religious text are guilty of a huge amount of criminality; they had a total disregard for time, the chronolgy of the Ages and how they are meant to line up in a kind of perfect harmony. Instead they create those fantasy stories.

They made use of plagerised text, sex-up literatute and viscious insinuations meant to basterdize the characters of the original authors. There is not one character, chronology or story in all the Abrahamic text, that can claim to be original.

Most of the stories can simply be described as complexed rankxeros of various ancient civilisations from around the world, especially Africa.
Is there a country called Isreal? Where was Isreal as at 1940?

How did they disappear from the map after several years and suddenly resurfaced on the map?

Do you have an answer for these questions?
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 8:40am On May 08, 2019
Born2Breed:
You are confused. Ife never had organization before the arrival of the Benin Prince.

The Ogiso dynasty was over 500yrs before the migration of Ekhaladerhan to Ife and the return of Oranmiyan to Benin. Ife was disorganized until a Benin prince brought sanity to that domain and chased away the ruling class.
Exactly my point. Why didn't the Ogiso developed Igodomigodo after 500 years? grin

Igodomigodo was disorganized for 500 year until oranmiyan the grandson( whom Benins claimed was the son) of Oduduwa came and arraigned your system.


Infact, he was rejected because he was counted as a stranger. The reason he left Benin and called it Ilu ibi nu which later metaphor to Ubini and currently Benin.

He dropped his son Owo mi ka now pronounced Eweka to rule Ilu ibinu(Benin) because the Ogiso didnt want a foreigner with a foreign style of leadership to rule them.

Oranmiyan was opposed because he was not the son of the soil according to your account. How can Oduduwa from Benin if the OGISO saw him a FOREIGNER? Bhuhahahaha! grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:25am On May 08, 2019
tbaba1234:
That Saudi game was the perfect game to test these players but we know it is not all transparent.
Exactly! Paul Aigbogun seems to have already made up his mind on the players he wants. This exercise is just to cajole us to believe he is scouting for players.

Anyway, I want to see his final list before I really take him seriously.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:46pm On May 07, 2019
tbaba1234:
Looks like we are going to the under 20 world cup with some grown men..

Aigbogun has dropped as many as 10 players. Most of the foreign born kids dropped.

Ofoborh is in camp.

cc: forgiveness

Details later..
Are you serious! I anticipated this will happen after seeing the line up against Saudi Arabia.

Please, let us know the players he dropped. Paul Aigbogun seems to be a joker.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:48pm On May 07, 2019
iSlayer2:
LWKMD!
grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:29pm On May 07, 2019
andrew444:
Smiles

Make una small small troll me sha
grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:26pm On May 07, 2019
iSlayer2:
So you follow me dey call La Liga one man league?! You wicket!



LWKMD!
I follow join no bi small. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:25pm On May 07, 2019
andrew444:
Congrats to Liverpool,you guys deserved your winning and i am tipping you guys for UCL glory

As for my Barca ,I am short of words right now .
How market? Ndo! You will never walk alone. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:04pm On May 07, 2019
Humility017:
just imagine with salah and the Brazilian striker in that team...it would have been worse
It's better like this because they don't know who they are up against.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:58pm On May 07, 2019
Barcelona is outttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt grin grin grin grin grin

EPL team in the Finals because the champion of one man league WAS THRASHED grin grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:40pm On May 07, 2019
4:0000000000 grin grin grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:18pm On May 07, 2019
Someone here is crying for Barcelona. cry cry cry

3:0 grin
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 8:39pm On May 07, 2019
Amujale:
The Noah flood story is a falsity. The are numerous flood stories, i personally know of atleast 25 different other ones. Most are only aware of the ones the Jews saved for them.

Once those type of historical events are put into the proper context, it becomes clear that they shed further light on the climatic conditions that helped lay down the foundation of the continents that later became poplulated outside of Africa.

For instance, going through all the contents in the various flood stories mentioned above, under No condtion did Africa experience those versions.

I am not going to discuss flood stories exclusive to the African continent here; would instead concentrate on further a field.

Hopoi Myth flood stories.

Comox people – Legend of Queneesh

Anishinaabe - Turtle Island flood myth

Inuit, flood myth 

Nisqually - Myth Flood story

Mesoamerican flood myth.

Urcocari flood myth

Unu Pachakuti -Inca flood myth.

Sumerian - Myth flood stories

Gilgamesh - Myth flood stories

Yu the Great

Nuwa

e.t.c



Eskimo (Orowignarak, Alaska) - "A great inundation, together with an earthquake, swept the land so rapidly that only a few people escaped in their skin canoes to the tops of the highest mountains.

The truth is that apart from during the so called "big bang" and the same point in time; and or leading up to "Creation" real history has never ever made record of any instance whatsover, whereby there"s a globsl corroboration to suggest flood consumed the entire globe.

Most of the peoples and places that reported their stories to us, either experienced these AWESOME phenomenon on their own or was exclusivec to their geographical region.
The words in the Bible were fulfilled, are currently being in fulfillment and will be fulfilled.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:12pm On May 07, 2019
Humility017:
despite the dude playing the FA cup final that year..... the business man cum coach...still choose to omit him probably because he failed to grease palms
Exactly!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:33pm On May 07, 2019
tbaba1234:
He plays for a lower league team. He is there because of long leg. Hopefully, he turns out to be good.
I agree. Let us just hope he turns out good.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:29pm On May 07, 2019
bazooka1:
See how your body is touching just because the boy is a fine mix breed. If he was an ugly homebased dude, you will accuse Paul of doing buisness.
Shows the sentiment of you lot.
Hehehehehehe! It's not about home based or mix breed, it's about age and quality. In this case, there's no sentiment.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 3:09pm On May 07, 2019
ademijuwonlo:
They are now Christians, Muslims and some of them still worship Osun and other deities on the side but identify with either Islam or Christianity.
90% will have nothing to do with idol.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 3:02pm On May 07, 2019
Amujale:
Before those places ever have habitants. Depicting a period in both World and African history whereby the only people living on our planet are Africans.

50% of world history occurs exclusively within Africa. During these times, we've almost certainly already experience civilisation countless times already. i.e Ife, Oyo, Benin, Ashante, Ethiopia, Mali, Zimbabwe e.t.c

Most of the dates and periods the Eurocentrics and Asiatics fail to assert on most African artefacts and sacred sites are intentionally misconstrued to suit their version of world history.
It seems you don't know much about world history after the destruction of the world during the days of Noah.

The new world began in Asia, not Africa.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:59pm On May 07, 2019
tbaba1234:
Yes, His name is Ikenna Malcolm Ezeala, a former Austrian under 16. He plays in Germany. His dad is an influencial agent. He plays as a left winger.

His dad's name is Emeka Ezeala, former Julius Berger.. Also played abroad. He had 2 caps for Nigeria.

cc:Chriskels.
Hmmm, I have never heard of the boy. Hope he is good?

From his stats, he can also play as a LB and LM.

Anyway, thanks for the information. Hope it keeps coming on. grin


Any news?
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 10:57am On May 07, 2019
Amujale:
Yoruba predate the middle East in years that amount in thousands upon thousands.

When either Ife or Oyo empire is at the heights of their success, there was NO people resident in Asia.

Everyone living on the planet those times are all resident of the African continent.


Africans are the first people to populate Asia, and that was hundreds of thousands of years after experiencing numerous empires and civilisations e.g Ife, Oyo, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia e.t.c
You mean there was place like Hanjul, Mongolia, China etcetera? shocked shocked shocked grin grin
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 10:47am On May 07, 2019
ademijuwonlo:
Ile-ife is the spiritual head of Yoruba land; in the olden days, it was where sacrifices and atonements were offer to appease/celebrate the gods of the land.
A larger proportion of Yorubas are either Muslims or Christians.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 10:44am On May 07, 2019
perryy:
Izoduwa (oduduwa) was from Benin. Anyone who believe he fell from the sky must be drunk as there is no life in the sky. The people then believed he came from the sky because he told them he was the son of Ogiso(king of the sky) . Those men that believed he was from Saudi are dimwitted as it would have been impossible for him to treck down to Ile Ife all the way from Saudi. He told them he was from the side where the sun rises from , that is East, and Benin is east of Ife .

In that case , Olugbo is right ,if you are talking of Paramount rulers of those that speak the Yoruba language. Now if u are talking of Oyo empire, then the Alafin of Oyo is number one and not even Ile ife as Ife did not great any empire . Outside Oyo empire , there was no other unified Yoruba kingdom in history which Ife was the head of. Now , how cone Ooni of Ife is now the number one ruler of Yoruba land ? Was there anything like Yoruba land in history? What history has is Oyo empire which was headed by the Alafin of Oyo and not Ooni of Ife.

If we are to jettison the Oyo empire and talk about a unified Yoruba kingdom, I think the Olugbo is very right as his kingdom predate that of Izoduwa no obhi Arunmunda ( Oduwuwa the son of Arunmunda) It is either we jettison Oyo influence and recognize Ugbo or stand by Oyo and make Alafin the number one ruler of
the modern Oyo empire . Thank you.
Oduduwa was not from Benin. Benin never had oba and organisation until someone from Ife changed the monarchy system in Benin.

Where did Oduduwa get all those things from?
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 10:26am On May 07, 2019
Amujale:
Exactly, he's obviously profoundly mistaken. Precisely the type of viewpoint tha needs refuting. Unity is about concession, leading to progress, love, happiness and success.
I have never heard that before but I will wait for her to provide evidence.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 10:23am On May 07, 2019
kunmiiii:
Same here, TAO11...when you have a minute, kindly do please, I'm really interested in that piece.
But I doubt it until she proves otherwise.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 9:51am On May 07, 2019
aribisala0:
Both of you are totally off point .

What is Yorubaland?

An empire is relevant as long as it has the means to enforce its authority otherwise it is relegated like a VHS recorder.
A defeated emperor cannot claim authority over anyone.

Yes Oyo once ruled much(not all) of "Yorubaland"(whatever this means) same way the Romans and later the British ruled much of the world.
Can the British continue to appoint Governors-General in Nigeria ,India or even the USA which they once owned.

The truth is even in so called Oyo empire territory before the British came the Olubadan had taken over and was the one that save the Oyos's from Ilorin invasion
ALL the nations were independent of each other so the question of Ooni having any authority over the others is quite silly. They only came under the authority of Oyo BY FORCE and rebelled whenever they could for centuries.

Certainly the Ijebu and Egba and those is Lagos are not blood relatives of Oyo and are more aboriginal with greater blood ties to riverine people s while the Oyos have greater blood ties to Nupe and Hausa whilst speaking related language and using Ifa religions. The Ekiti and Ondo have strong links with Edo and Ijaw peoples
The case of Ijebus is very glaring. They are totally unique in that they do not circumcise their women
The other thing to bear in mind is the tribal marks of Oyo which are more "Northern". Tribal marks should tell you that they are not one people

This idea of one Yoruba nation is funny
Ajase and others in Benin republic do not even call themselves Yoruba
Where did you get this from?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:42am On May 07, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I wonder what you people are saying?

Rodgers said Nacho supposed to have converted the chance because it was on his left side. Not saying it is compulsory to bury the chance.

Rodgers never said it was an easy chance as you tried to make it. A good chance, yes but lots of players miss good chances. Sterling missed a good chance yesterday.

It happens.

At least, Rodgers has told you Nacho is working very very hard. That is the most important and contrary to the image most of you are trying to project.
He should had scored. That's the point Rodgers made.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:36am On May 07, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
"It was a big chance for him. The ball was there and it was on his good side. But it wasn't to be. He got himself in the position ... I felt we would have deserved that at least."....Brendan Rodgers!

It wasn't to be, not it must be or the end of the World. Missing is part of the game.
He failed to score. That's the message.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 9:33am On May 07, 2019
TAO11:
Thanks for your attempt at correcting me. But it's just amusing to me that you couldn't imagine that I know all of these already. Smiles!

Firstly, nowhere in my comment did I assert that Oduduwa was alien to Ile-Ife, even though you didn't substantiate any of your claims. Please read my comment again and point out where I made such assertion.

Secondly, regarding your claim that Shango ruled ONLY in Oyo-Ile; I could swear that you did not read that anywhere in any history book that Shango DID NOT rule as king over Kush kingdom. I bet that the most you've read in any history book is that he ruled in Oyo-Ile after usurping power from his brother, Ajaka.

Please cite me the history book where you read that Shango did not rule as king over Kush Kingdom

At the moment, it's late night time where I live I will return later in the morning with evidence, proof, and reason for this foregoing second point by citing hard and concrete evidence from the leading historian and anthropologist in Africa on Africa.
We are waiting.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 9:21am On May 07, 2019
TAO11:
You mean that the Alaafin of Oyo bows to the Ooni only because the Ooni his 40 and he is 90? Okay I have heard you. grin grin

In a manner similar to his bowing to the superior authority of the Ooni of Ife, he also bows to the President and his wife because they control more power and authority than he does.

What is too difficult for you to understand in that?



Just Some Quick Questions For You:

1.) Who is the founder of Oyo kingdom according to whatever version of history you read?

2.) Where did this founder of Oyo kingdom hail from?

3.) And who is his father?
Oba oju oba lo.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 9:10am On May 07, 2019
TAO11:
What then do you make of the image below?
The picture didn't tell the whole story.
Culture › Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 9:02am On May 07, 2019
perryy:
Izoduwa (oduduwa) was from Benin. Anyone who believe he fell from the sky must be drunk as there is no life in the sky. The people then believed he came from the sky because he told them he was the son of Ogiso(king of the sky) . Those men that believed he was from Saudi are dimwitted as it would have been impossible for him to treck down to Ile Ife all the way from Saudi. He told them he was from the side where the sun rises from , that is East, and Benin is east of Ife .

In that case , Olugbo is right ,if you are talking of Paramount rulers of those that speak the Yoruba language. Now if u are talking of Oyo empire, then the Alafin of Oyo is number one and not even Ile ife as Ife did not great any empire . Outside Oyo empire , there was no other unified Yoruba kingdom in history which Ife was the head of. Now , how cone Ooni of Ife is now the number one ruler of Yoruba land ? Was there anything like Yoruba land in history? What history has is Oyo empire which was headed by the Alafin of Oyo and not Ooni of Ife.

If we are to jettison the Oyo empire and talk about a unified Yoruba kingdom, I think the Olugbo is very right as his kingdom predate that of Izoduwa no obhi Arunmunda ( Oduwuwa the son of Arunmunda) It is either we jettison Oyo influence and recognize Ugbo or stand by Oyo and make Alafin the number one ruler of
the modern Oyo empire . Thank you.
Oduduwa didn't fall from the sky neither did he come from Benin.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:58am On May 07, 2019
eazyjakes:
He should score, I said that to him afterwards, in the big games there are not many moments," Rodgers told a news conference.
"It was tight, we were very, very good in our defensive organisations. They didn't have many chances and we didn't have many. But the one that came, you have to score that. He knows.
"It's moments when you can come into the game and make an impact, he's a great boy, works very, very hard in training.
"He's got in front of him a top-class operator in Jamie [Vardy] so it's difficult for him to find rhythm. However, it’s moments like that where you can make an impact. He's actually done that in the other games.
"It was a big chance for him. The ball was there and it was on his good side. But it wasn't to be. He got himself in the position ... I felt we would have deserved that at least."....Brendan Rodgers!
Thegoodjoe said otherwise.

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