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tbaba1234:
In Nigeria, age plays a major factor. Musa is one of the few who can still play at a good level.

Yobo was the only one in his set that played for a long time.. Aghahowa and Ikedia disappeared several years before Yobo retired.. In a squad of 21, you should have a few still playing at a decent level. Mikel is the only one still playing at a high level from his set. Taye Taiwo and others faded when they were supposed to be getting to their prime.

But Taiwo is two years older than Mikel and he still played in the Turkish league at 29. He still played the Europa League with a Switzerland club at 32.

He is 34 now.

Besides, Obasi played in the Bundesliga at 29 and he is currently 33. If not for injury, he would have played up to 31.

So, I don't think only Mikel lasted longer in that set.

tbaba1234:
2011 under 20... These players are supposed to be in their prime now... 28 years or less.

Omeruo, Azeez, and kayode still play in decent leagues. Musa is in Saudi, Ajagun in Cyprus at "26".

The rest have disappeared.

Goalkeepers: Danjuma Paul (Nasarawa United), Kazim Yekini (Kwara United), Gideon Gambo (Sharks)

Defenders: Kenneth Omeruo (Standard Liege/Belgium), Chiemezie Mbah (Warri Wolves), Gani Ogungbe (Gateway FC), Emmanuel Anyanwu (Enyimba), Terna Suswan (Vitoria Setubal/Portugal), Felix Odoh (First Bank Lagos)

Midfielders: Philemon Daniel (Kwara United), Abduljaleel Ajagun (Dolphin), Sani Tahir (Vejle/DEN), Ramon Azeez (Almeria/SPA)

Strikers: Ahmed Musa (VVV Venlo/Netherlands), Uche Nwofor (Enugu Rangers), Bright Ejike (Sharks), Olanrewaju Kayode (Asec/Cote d'Ivoire), Sani Emmanuel (Lazio/Italy), Omo Ojabu (Dolphin), Terry Envoh (Sharks), Egbedi Edafe (unattached)

Abdul Ajagun played in the Belgium league this season and he still belongs to the Belgium club that sent him on loan to Cyprus. He followed the manger that left his parent club to the Cyprus.

The same senerio happened 4 seasons ago when some thought he was finished because Panathinaikos sent him on loan in Greece but still went ahead and did very very very well in the Eredivise and Belgium pro League against all expectations.

Let us wait and see what happens at the end of the season.

andrew444:
It was 2013 you won the Europa league

So 2013 is 3 years ago ?

So Chelsea is now Man U that won it 2 years ago ?

Is it not the same Europa league Sevilla won 3 times on a roll ?

Oh! Chelsea won the EPL in 2013! I see.

andrew444:
Lol same thing you said when this season start

Chelsea and co are crap

Stop deceiving your self as Liverpool is the only match for city

Laliga one man league ? Lol

Chelsea who won the league just three years ago and currently in Europa League final is crap?

andrew444:
Epl fan boys and bias pundits,you guys have no choice than to love pep ,he will dominate your league ,he will still win it next season because the only competitor is Liverpool.

If not for brilliant jurgen klopp pep guardiola would have make the Epl look like ligue 1 just the way he won it last season

Kudos to klopp because he is a great coach

Everybody want mancity to loose the league but you guys can now bite your fingers ,shebi una say na only Spain and Germany he fit dominate ? Lol

Where is Danielnino and safarigirl,I told you guys pep will win this league again and if he doesn't I will eat my words

Smiles

Don't be deceived, Manchester City can't win the season next season. There are many contenders unlike one man league La Liga.

tbaba1234:
Hamdi was competing with Tom Dele Bashiru, Ofoborh, Kingsley Michael etc

That's true.

tbaba1234:
There are other foreign based players expected to make the team. Kingsley Michael, Igor Ogbu etc

Why did he drop the Dutch guy?

tbaba1234:
If only our team was composed of 19-20 year olds.

Gbam!

tbaba1234:
Ofoborh..

Just three? What a big scam.

tbaba1234:
Zaccala is seriously turning heads in camp. Just 17 years old. He is expected to be dropped though.

Slim chance of making it..

Too young to play? The whole exercise is getting boring.

tbaba1234:
He will soon be announcing his final list. Most of the foreign based boys are back home.

Zaccala, tom dele bashiru are still in camp.

Bennetts, Fisayo, Nwaorisa etc are back home.

Only two fb young players? Na wa ooo

Awoniyi scores.

andrew444:
Why you talk say na refree? say because of the 96th minutes winning goal?

The red card and the penalty.

andrew444:
Assist was given to feghouli

Okay.

andrew444:
Thank God gala is winning and topping the table, they need to win that league

They are winning this one with the help of the referee.

andrew444:
Na only one assist nah

Is he not the one that crossed the ball for the third goal?

Another assist by Onyekuru.

This referee just dey do ojoro.

Umar Scored

Danielnino00:
Nwaekeme is a striker that can functions as a winger sometimes ..
Awoniyi is doing well no doubt but he hasn't been consistent like the rest...he just hit form in January...
it's the u-23 team he will play for

Not true. Nwaekeme functions as a winger mostly. Even this season, he played as a Left winger. We don't need to convert a winger to a striker when there are b
many better options.

Awoniyi's stats as a striker is even more impressive than Nwaekeme as a striker.

No true, Awoniyi has been consistent lately after he left Gent. 8 goals and 3 assists in 13 matches he featured showed he is consistent which is even more than what Odey and Eleke have scored in their last 13 matches.

He ought to be considered ahead them.

Danielnino00:
Ilori is in the same shoe with Rose Barkley.. People who have little or no connection with Nigeria..

Are you his father,mother or brother to tell us that he is interested in playing for us?
Not everybody asslick foreign born players like u do here...

At least Udohaki and Tonnoarugha have indicated that they are still open to playing for Nigeria.. to the best of my knowledge, then NFF hasn't bought a home for their scouts to be begging Udohaki and Tonnouarigha everyday...

And finally, why do u think it is the responsibility of the NFF to be approaching every foreign born Nigerian player? If we are to count the foreign born Nigerian footballers out there,they could be up to a thousand! A few hundred of them could be playing at professional level .how would ghr NFF approach all of them? How would the NFF position it's scouts to identify all of them?
Shouldn't these players speak out too so we should notice them?
Has Tiago ever spoken about Nigeria?

You are lying. Rose Barkley wanted to play for Nigeria despite the fact he had strained relationship with his father.

Did Tiago Ilori have strain relationship with his father?

Did his father abandoned him like Ross father did?

Did Tiago Ilori changed his name to his mother's name?

You don't know anything about people but you come here on public forum to declare authoritatively that Tiago Ilori is not connected to Nigeria.

How did you know?

Nobody knows anybody's family here, so stop pretending you know.

When did I say Tiago Ilori is interested in playing for Nigeria? Show me.

I said approach Tiago Ilori the same way NFF approached Jordan Torunarigha, Kevin Akpoguma and Felix Uduokhai who never for once showed interest to play for Nigeria prior to the time they were approached.

Is that too difficult for you to understand?

Exactly! They indicated to play for Nigeria after they were FORMERLY APPROACHED.

Why didn't NFF extend the same gesture to Tiago Ilori when he was in the spotlight?

It is the duty of NFF to approach players that are eligible to play for Nigeria. Especially when a player is in the spotlight.

What is that you can't understand?

Danielnino00:
He shouldn't even make the preliminary squad list self... in addition to Osimhen and Onuachu, I'll prefer we give Nwaekeme, Odey and Blessing Ekele a chance..

Is Nwaekeme a striker?

Yeah! Odey and Blessing Ekele are doing well in the Switzerland league but I think Awoniyi also doing well in the same Belgium league with Osimhen.

Anyway, I don't think Ighalo will miss the tournament.

Danielnino00:
Leave forgiveness alone to his illusions..
I was very amused the first time I saw him clamour for Tiago Ilori.. a player I took an interest in after he signed for Liverpool in 2013. Trust me he has no interest in Nigeria. This boy was born in England to a British father of Nigerian descent and a Portuguese mother... played for Portugal youth team and toasted by England... Nigeria was never in the picture..Once he revive his career with sporting,it is straight to the Portuguese senior team for him..

Forgiveness just like picking fights over unnecessary issues...

How do you know he is not interested in Nigeria?

Did you personally approached him and he then told you that?

Are you his father, brother or spoke person?

Were Jordan Torunarigha, Kevin Akpoguma and Felix Uduokhai interested in playing for Nigeria before NFF approached them?

thegoodjoehunt3:
Stop with the sense of reasoning being shallow bro. People have a right to their own opinion.

I think several factors restricted the callup of Tiago Ilori especially the time he broke into the Sporting Lisbon team in his teens. He was seen as a top promising talents. Some touted the idea he would captain the Portuguese side. I think he even at some point captained the Sporting Lisbon team.

Loyalty:
I doubt he was ever loyal to the GWG Jersey. He never expressed the idea of representing us. Unless it would have required the NFF going to him and convincing (begging) him to develop passion to play for us.

Injuries:
Injuries kept the bright talent for having a healthy run of games and he did not stay in the spotlight consistently to beam the light of availability for him.

Bench:
On repeated occasions, Ilori found himself out of favor with managers, thus reducing his growth.

However, if some kind of good spotlight fell on Ilori, I think he would have continued his love affair with the Portuguese. I think his loyalty was his biggest draw back.

But, it would have been a steal if we had tried to use the National team to expose his talent which might have worked. I have always believed the National team should not only be about receiving but giving.

In the end, Tiago Ilori's loyalty was never with us for our coaches to be criticised for not reaching out to him. Especially, being a lower choice if things did not work out for him. However, if things worked out, Portugal would have been his only choice.

Why didn't these same factors restrict Jordan Torunarigha, Kevin Akpoguma and Felix Uduokhai from getting chased by the same coach and NFF as soon as they brook into the Bundesliga?

What about the one that ssid we rolled red carpet for him?

Are they loyal to the GWG?

Did they ever expressed the idea of playing for Nigeria as at the time the NFF and the coaching crew pursued after them?

And they still keep begging them to play for us till this day(I am firmly in support and wish the same gesture is extended to all Nigerians FB).

Why should Tiago Ilori's case be different despite having a better stats than these players when each made their debut in the top 5 leagues in Europe?

Tiago still had a better stats afterwards, even in the Ligue 1.

Why has he not been given a hot chase the same way these are chased till date eventhough they snubbed them several times?

Tiago Ilori stayed in the spotlight for 3 straight seasons in the Portuguese league, LA Liga and Ligue 1.

Do you mean that was not consistent enough to beam the light of availablity for him to atleast be approached?

Tiago Ilori didn't find himself out of favour with the managers he played for in the Portuguese league, la Liga and Ligue 1 which spanned for 3 good seasons despite these he was never approached but all these aforementioned had just one season in Bundesliga and the phone kept ringing.

Now that we know these German Nigerian born players loyalty are not with us but still get chased by the coach and NFF, is not enough to criticize them?

sheyishemba:
uhmmm with all these stat and with ilori less game time this guy is a gem (as at that time) but let wait and see what He will do at sporting Lisbon

Exactly! As at that time is what we speak about and he was clearly better than those in the national team then.

Now that Sporting Lisbon bought him back, we should just wait and see what becomes of him.

I don't know to be bought by Sporting Lisbon tantamounts to having regression. Some people sense of reasoning is very shallow.

chrisooblog:
physician heal thyself and stop with the hypocritical posts

All I have gathered from your ranting and long-winded epistle is average players have been called up into the national team so why haven't my own favourite average players being called up

Please spare me with your Defender of defenseless bullcrap Samuel was doing well in Belgium I didn't hear all this your noise Paul was doing well in Denmark I didn't hear all this your noise but when it comes to your favourite players your eye will be shining like a lightbulb with High Voltage

if you like call me biased sentimental or even the evil affecting Nigeria football that is your business reasonable people have seen through the b******* you are selling and refuse to buy it

You are the hypocrite here. You want to sell Ajagun and Tiago as average but after showing you facts you still can't hide your face in shame and agree you are wrong.

Facts don't lie but your support for average players to be called into the National team portrays you as one who is bias and highly sentimental.

Who are the reasonable people?

Your post shows you can't reason left alone to be reasonable.

Imagine acussing me of not calling for Samuel Kalu and Paul Onuacha!

Why should I clamour for Samuel Kalu when we had Victor Moses and Alex Iwobi playing in the premier League with Chelsea and Arsenal as at that time?

As at the time Samuel Kalu was doing well in the Belgium league many players who played the same wing with him were still doing better than him in better leagues and even in the same Belgium league. Yes! Even Peter Olayinka was ahead of him not to talk of Onyekuru and Simon Moses.

He was down the pecking order. That's it. No reasonable person will clamour for Samuel Kalu who was down the pecking order except you.


The same fate befell Paul Onuacha. Many players who were playing in the same position were doing better than Paul Onuacha in better leagues as at the time he did well. He was down the pecking order even below Kayode Olanrewaju. Why should any reasonable person clamour for Paul? Except the person lacks sense of reasoning he can even think about that.

The point remains that, Abdul Ajagun was doing better than Etebo, Shehu, etc who were playing the same position as at the time they were invited ahead of him into the 'National' team.

The point remains that Tiago Ilori did better than both Awaziem and Omeruo statistical in both the la Liga and Ligue 1, but as that time I clamoured for him, some mischievous people said he wasn't good enough.

Why turn around and praise Awaziem and Omeruo who were below him statistically speaking in the same leagues?

How can that not be reasonable enough for you not to understand or decipher?

Who is one of those clamouring for Chukwueze to play in the AFCON when most wants him to play for the U-20 only? Who? I ask again, who?

We are not the same and can never be the same when it comes to having a sane judgement. I am far ahead of you in this regard else show me where you ever made a sane prediction and it can to past. Show me.

Try to have an objective reason for once.










My friend, have a lovely day.

chrisooblog:
first of why are sometimes so emotional and rude when passing across your points? if it were just bants i would understand but this is the uptenth time you are doing this. dude you are a christian or so you claim we can debate issues without throwing insults. have i referred to you as an ignoramus in any post before? forgiveness be guided.

now to your points for ajagun it's not about the span of his career but how well he has done so far. he won one miserly greek cup because of that we should do somersaults? answer me was he ever voted one of the best in the nigerian greek dutch or belgium leagues that you will not let us rest?

who mentioned awaziem? we are talking about ilori who you claimed is supposed to be a marquee defender trust you to cherry pick the stats that fit your narrative even if we compare the two tiago at 26 years old should be nearing his best not competing with a 22 year old awaziem who is just in the early stage of his career? how the "mighty" have fallen.

ebuehi before his injury was outstanding in his dutch club den haag that's why benfica bought him. tiago you will probably claim has been blighted by injury but he hasn't suffered season or career ending type injuries so how come the times he's fit is he not getting playing time? he for instance has only played 4 times this seasons while being injured for just a month what happened to the remaining months?

you call playing 9 out of 19 games successful? omeruo has played almost every game for leganes has been named in team of the week twice was ilori ever named man of the match in spain?

yes he ran back to portugal cos that's his comfort zone to revive his career.

what even brought nwakali into this matter? have i ever hyped him or campaigned for him to be invited to the super eagles? nwakali is poor, iheanacho is poor, ajagun is poor, ilori is poor cest fini!

How can you accuse me of being emotional and rude when it's written all over your post?

Remove the beam in your eyes before you do that for others.

How many players currently in the national team have won the best player award in their leagues before they got into the National team?

Did Etebo win the best player in Nigeria league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Alex Iwobi win the best player in Arsenal academy before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Shehu win the best player in the Kuwait league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Wilfred Ndidi win the best player in Belgium before he made his debut for the national team?

Why must Abdul Ajagun win the best player before he is called into the National team despite the fact that these aforementioned players didn't achieve half of what he achieved in the Nigerian league and with Panathinaikos in the Greek league before they even made their debut for the 'national' team?

But all these made their debut either from the same Nigerian league, academy, Kuwait league and Belgium league.

Are these league better than the Greece league that produced the Greece National team that reached the Europe 2012 quarter finals as at that time?

Why raise the bar for some players and lower the bar for some players in the supposed 'National' team?

Is this not another emotive and subjective reasoning?

I smell double standard. Isn't it?

Why won't I mention Awaziem? Is he not a Nigerian?

We should compare both performance in the Ligue 1 because they both played there at the same age (21).

Tiago Ilori outperformed Awaziem in the same Ligue 1 despite the fact that they were both the same age as at the time they played there. Fact

How come you claimed Tiago Ilori flopped in Ligue 1 but still commended Awaziem who didn't have a better stats than Tiago Ilori in the same Ligue 1? This is Nigeria where sentiments has beclouded people's sense of reasoning. They only praise their own and try to put down others just to feel good.

If you have problem with whoscored, why don't you create your own double standard siu measurement?

For a 20 years old boy who went to la Liga during the summer transfer with just 18 matches left and still went ahead to start to finish in 9 matches with a MOTM against almighty Barcelona confirmed he was successful in La Liga. Despite the 9 games, his stats is better than Omeruo.


Anyway, according to you, la Liga is better than EPL. Isn't it?

See Tiago Ilori made la Liga team of the week too. How come you took notice of Omeruo but couldn't do the same for Tiago Ilori? Wonders shall never end. I smell double standard.

Ebuehi was outstanding in the Eredivise league and that was why Benfica bought. Hmmm!

So, why did Liverpool buy Tiago Ilori?

Why did Sporting Lisbon buy back Tiago Ilori?

Who told you Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in Ligue 1 and la Liga where he won motm and even made the team of the league?

Who told Tiago Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in the Championship? Person wey play in the Championship play off final self.

Who told you Tiago Ilori only played 4 games this season? Somebody wey play against Manchester United and Watford in the FA cup and EFL cup. He even played in the Europa League against Villarreal self but you claimed he only had 4 games. How truthful are you?

How can I take you seriously for your last two paragraphs?

My friend, get hold of yourself before sentiments blind your eyes.

zoboizee:
@tbaba1234
From my reading of your comments so far, i think the team can't be so different from this if you put into consideration old members & new additions.

1. Detan Ogundare (Kogi United)
2. Olawale Oremade (Oasis.A)
3. Matthew Yakubu (Clique Sports )
4. Ikouwem Utin (Enyimba)
5. Mike Zaruma (Plateau Utd)
6. Muhammad Zulkifilu (Plateau)
7. Solomon Ogberahwe (El-Kanemi)
8. Valentine Ozornwafor (Enyimba)
9. Aliu Salawudeen (E.A.A)
10. Igho Ogbu (Rosenborg)
11. Jamilu Muhammed (Kano Pillars)
12. Effiom Maxwell (Enyimba)
13. Tom Dele Bashiru (Man. City)
14. Nnamdi Ofoborh (Bournemouth)
15. Ibrahim Abubakar (Plateau Utd)
16. Kingsley Micheal(Perugia)
17. Pascal Durugbor (Vaxjo)
18. Henry Offia (IK Sirius)
19. Jerome Akor(Sogndal IL)
20. Tijani Muhammed
21. Success Makanjuola

You are not far from truth. It looks likely.

tbaba1234:
Ofoborh is very much a part of the team. He was only excused for Bournemouth's league game. Currently, he is by far, the best player in the squad.

I thought as much. He is in Paul's plan

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
You want us to go back to Bayajjida or what end of the history do you want us to start from you dunce? You think I don't know all that? In my last post I said Dan fodio founded the "HAUSA CITY STATES" did you read that? Did you read that? Go and ponder on the bolded Rano and the rest of them will still be led by fulanis. Wawa!

When was Hausa city states founded and when was Dan folio born?

iammo:



good one


Before Fulani came in and annexed everything to themselves through bloody jihad, wasn't what is now present day Kano state a multiple Kingdoms with seperate Rulers?

Why must a Fulani Emir supercede other Hausa traditional ruler in their own land.

While lawmakers were working on the bill, where are the fools who think their opinion counts, atleast there was public hearing and 2/3 of kano state lawmakers agreed to it before ganduje signed into law.

Since Sanusi thinks he is king and overload of politics.. i support the downsizing of his Ego, he made unfonded allegation against Jonathan and PDP criminals and APC people defended him even Osinbajo headed his legal team, Kano Emirate made him king to save face, But how did he repay the favour? he started romancing PDP and criticising APC openly thinking APC are pushovers.

.

The Kingdom has been restored to the Hausa's.

OhiOfIhima:
Your floor abi..

Emir is for Kano alone while sultan is the number one leader of all the entired Muslim in the federation.

Don't say what you don't know Mr man.

Sultan claimed to be be the leader of all the Muslims in the federation but he's not because he never brought Islam to Nigeria. In short, they were the last to receive Islam.

Nyamuriflathead:
Did u read part of the story that says kano emirate was balcanized into more "EMIRATES" Hausas don't do empires and Emirates bro

Who told you Hausa didn't have empires and Emirates? Hause had an Empire and Emirates before Usman Dan folio ended the Hausa's dynasty.

Please, go through the past rulers of Kano.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Kano#House_of_Kutumbi