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Icon4s:
Osimhen has graduated from being just a "special talent" to being a Senior Team player with steady improvement in performances.

He has Paid back the faith the coaches had on him by his recent performances.

If Awoniyi can be consistent and keeps on improving he will also get a look in.

The national team is for all Nigerians.

How many goals did Osimhen score last season before he was called into the National team?

Do you mean Awoniyi who scored 8, 10 and 12 goals consecutively in the last three seasons is not consistent?

Icon4s:
Who are the experienced strikers we have in the super Eagles now?

Onigbinde dropped Yakubu Aiyegbeni and took Opabunmi to the world cup.

Besides, Osimhen's rating at U17 was higher than that of Opabunmi. Which Nigerian U17 Player has ever scored a double digit in a single tournament? Osimhen is highest ever goal scorer at the U17 WC. Talentwise both players are not at par.

Mind you , if you are fair with ur reasoning, all along I have been against Osimhen's early inclusion into the national team until he proves himself at senior club level.

You cannot hinge on Osimhen's call up to keep crying over Awoniyi's exclusion. Both players are currently not on the same pedestal.

Did Onigbide dropped Opabumi a LW for Aiyegbeni a Striker?

Opabumi won the silver boat(5goals) and the silver ball as a winger despite not winning the tournament. What is the difference?

Osimhen won Golden boat (10 goals) and the silver ball as a Striker.

As you can see, It was never higher.

So, I ask you again.

Why didn't you give the same reason for Opabumi when Onigbide picked him at first? Or Opabumi wasn't a 'special talent' as at then?

tbaba1234:
Zaccala on the team bus drumming away..

A very good decision. Paul try for this one.

Kog45:
Oh Chief!full compliment of U23 and Awoniyi will not be a starter?

Pls give me the full compliment of U23 starting eleven cos sometimes “i no dey understand how we dey” rate our players.

Some are special talent abi and whether they perform or not they deserve call up and non special talent need to work their socks off to get invitations.

If Osimeh,Iheanacho,Success and Kelechi Nwakili are special talents then Awoniyi is what

Boss truth be told Awoniyi deserve a place in eagles 25 man squad.

Icon4 is inconsistent.

Today a player is special talent but tomorrow a player is inexperience. That's is just the double standard used to determine who plays in the 'National' team.

Icon4s:
Why we failed at the 2002 WC.

3. Parading too many inexperienced players plus some players only took part in one or two friendlies. Batholomew Ogbeche, Femi Opabunmi, Justice Christopher, Efe Sodje. They were not tested but were trusted and lo they failed us.
What happened to their careers after that World cup?
Lesson, every player that will make the next world cup squad be tested and trusted.

Even if Awoniyi scores 100 goals he will not make the 'National' team.

Icon4s:
First off please when did we ever have an Iwobi vs Dele Alli argument here?

Talking about Awoniyi we are talking 2019 here. Awoniyi couldn't score in a 2019 U23 qualfiers and the Osimhen u are trying very hard to pull down because of him scored 3. That is what we are discussing here.

I have told u Osimhen is a special talent which was why Rohr picked him early. You cannot say same for Awoniyi who has even been struggling with form for a couple of years now.

Why didn't you give the same reason for Opabumi when Onigbide picked him at first? Or Opabumi wasn't a 'special talent' as at then?

Icon4s:
Why we failed at the 2002 WC.

3. Parading too many inexperienced players plus some players only took part in one or two friendlies. Batholomew Ogbeche, Femi Opabunmi, Justice Christopher, Efe Sodje. They were not tested but were trusted and lo they failed us.
What happened to their careers after that World cup?
Lesson, every player that will make the next world cup squad be tested and trusted.

How come you had a different reasoning?

Icon4s:
Recall his comment when asked abt y he took Adepoju(hu was virtually called back frm retirement) and Opabunmi to the 2002 WC when it was obvious they were nt good enough at that time to make d team.Remember he dropped Finidi George, Sunday Oliseh, Tijani Babangida and Victor Ikpeba. The Nigerian press tagged him a tribalist nt jst bc he picked Opabunmi and Adepoju ahead of the above mentioned Golden generation Eagles bt bc of the ethnocentric reason behind his decision. It was d Ibadan connection though Onigbinde is from Modakeke bt was based in Ibadan jst like Adepoju and Opabunmi.

U remember what he said when appointed Shooting stars coach for the 2003/2004 season? He said he wanted to build a 3SC team that will comprise only of the Yoruba players. 3SC managed to escape relegation that season and Onigbinde was fired .
Have u noticed he is d last Yoruba to coach d Super Eagles.

Although i still respect that man a lot. U know he laid d foundation for the rise of Gambian football.

andrew444:
I saw something in your argument

Bt seems you said you didn't say so then no issue

Hope you know kayode didn't play much first team football last season ?

You didn't see anything. It's just your feelings.

And when he played much, did he ever start a match the same way others are given the chance to start a match?

andrew444:
Lol

Alright if you say so

But we are not the coach sha

It's not a problem if it's used this year ,only the coach can decide

Okay! The siu measurement changes to suit the situation on ground. I see.

Amosun123:
Awoniyi should’ve taken Nacho’s spot. I don’t trust Nacho around our team. He’s not a serious guy and jokes around too much. An unnecessary distraction might I add.

This is Nigeria where sentiments have beclouded many people sense of reasoning.

In a sane society, Awoniyi will make the list.

andrew444:
Na wetin I tell forgiveness but I think he is insisting on Paul onuachu talking of who is in a better league

When did I insist Paul Onuachu should be dropped?

Besides, last year, many here used better league standard to drop Kayode for Simeon Nwankwo.

What's problem if it's used this year?

jihday:
Junior Ajayi isn't there sir

He is there. Look well.

andrew444:
You think awoniyi deserves to be there ahead of Paul because he is in a better league and you don't think iheanacho deserved to be dropped maybe just because he is playing in the Epl

You are being controversial as usual

That's not a fact as you are being bias and not realistic

If you wanna say awoniyi deserves to be there not Paul to be dropped for him ,the earlier the better for you

Where did you see me write Paul Onuachu should be dropped?

Besides, how come you didn't say this when Kayode was dropped for Simeon?

jihday:
exactly, no much difference between them he won't bring anything new besides you can't expect Karo to be dropped he's been part of the squad for a while now

Nobody is saying a player should be dropped but I am saying give these young boys chance and let us see if they can do better than those on ground.

Icon4s:
First off please when did we ever have an Iwobi vs Dele Alli argument here?

Talking about Awoniyi we are talking 2019 here. Awoniyi couldn't score in a 2019 U23 qualfiers and the Osimhen u are trying very hard to pull down because of him scored 3. That is what we are discussing here.

I have told u Osimhen is a special talent which was why Rohr picked him early. You cannot say same for Awoniyi who has even been struggling with form for a couple of years now.

Answer my question. How many goals did Osimhen who was in Europe for years scored before he made the National team?

I don't like epistles these days.

Joebie:
Some players there don’t deserve to be in that list (standby inclusive). Rohr don collect money.

I don't know. They should enjoy the moment while it last.

Icon4s:
Taiwo Awoniyi never scored in any Olympics qualfiers.

That game u are referring to was an All African game qualfier. Awoniyi and Osimhen were dropped mostly because of their age and stage of development then. You can not in any imagination use that game of 2005 to call for Awoniyi's inclusion into the SE in 2019.

If we have our full compliment of players who are U23 today Awoniyi will not be in starting 11.

Agreed but it is the same U23. Fact.

You claimed Awoniyi can't score in an U23 competition but you were wrong.

In 2017 Osimhen was called to the national team, how many goals did he score?

That was how you claimed Iwobi was better than Dele Ali but the rest they say is history.

Eleniyan15:
My lame prediction
Two players to be dropped

Nacho
Samu Chuk or Samuel Kalu


I don't see rohr dropping semi ajayi

Impossible. Chukwueze will make the team. I don't know about Samuel Kalu's fitness but he will make the team if he is fit.

Semi, I can't guarantee.

BascoVanVeli:
So was Efe Ambrose.

He wasn't the only one firing at the time and you also know that Awoniyi has not been consistent. Last season was his best season in Europe but he didn't kick on to start this season.

Was Osimhen consistent before he was called into the National team?

Icon4s:
You want to compare Osimhen and Awoniyi in terms of potentials?
So because of that we should drop Osimhen in this 2019 and pick Awoniyi.

Ordinary U23 he didn't make any impact. Osimhen came in and scored 3goals . Which point are you trying to prove again?

How come you forgot Awoniyi scored two crucial goals in the same U23? Goals that even qualified us to the Olympics but the bobo was dropped.

I ask again. How many goals did Osimhen score before he was called into the National team?

Humility017:
I understand...bro.
but you know this list would have been worse off...had it been the Super eagles coach was a full blooded nigerian

Is Rohr in-charge?

Bros, let us leave story.

tbaba1234:
I don't know the line up but it is a very encouraging result. RB Salzburg has one of the best youth systems in Europe.

They won the UEFA youth league in 2017 and lost in the quarter finals against Porto in 2018.

Okay thanks.

Humility017:
Bro..Awoniyi for sure is under 23 bound though it pains because playing for the super eagles
would ease his work permit quest... and that would accentuate his growth into the Liverpool team...

You know I didn't bring up any player after seeing the list but I will not accept anyone here to deceive me.

I am only tackling falsehood.

BascoVanVeli:
Might not have but he rated the player off that tournament I personally watched him say that.

Etebo was not a main stay. Siasia gave him his first cap and got fired.

Rohr rated them off of competitions. Awoniyi was not firing when the coach came. I should know because I defended his quality alot during this time period.

How did you know?

Etebo was already a member of Nigeria National team.

When Awoniyi was firing last season, did he get a chance?

Icon4s:
Ordinary U23 qualfiers, for the two legs Awoniyi couldn't do anything. Osimhen came in the return leg and scored 3goals. Is that not enough proof that Osimhen is on a higher pedestal than Awoniyi?

That U23 qualfiers was Awoniyi's golden chance to prove he was ready for senior national team football and everyone knew it. But he blew it. Okeleke even came in and within minutes he scored.

I don't even expect anyone to be clamoring for Awoniyi for this AFCON.

Osimhen made the national team with zero goal. Why?

tbaba1234:
Nnamdi Ofoborh, one of the best players in the squad. Keep an eye on him. Definitely one that can join the super eagles soon.

Good to see him make the team.

tbaba1234:
Kingsley Michael, expected to be one of the stars of the team.

I am looking forward to see him play again. He is a good player.

tbaba1234:
FT Nigeria 1-1 RB Salzburg.

Success Makanjuola voted MVP of the game.

Nigeria came from behind to tie the game through a Tijani Mohammed goal.

Do you know the line up?

tbaba1234:
Success Makanjuola and Chinonso Emeka

Is this boy short or na the tall guy expose am?

tbaba1234:
David Okereke made the Serie B team of the season..

That's a good one.

Oasis007:
The List!

What is Junior Ajayi doing on the list?

Is he better than Awoniyi this season?

andrew444:
See forgiveness leave osimhen ,I should respect your opinion sha

But if there is anyone that's to be dropped for awoniyi it should be nacho

Yes awoniyi is playing in a better league than Paul

But Paul deserve a chance ,nacho doesn't deserve his place and you know this

I am saying the facts and not my opinion.

COOL10:
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Bros,it's Onuachu abeg. Not 'Onuacha' . This is like the third time already

Okay. Thanks

BascoVanVeli:
The coach saw Osimhen at the U17s. Just like he saw Etebo at the olympics and Ezenwa at the npfl la liga tour. All these events were around the time Rohr was considering the job. He felt these players had something special and it is no surprise that they are still in the national team.

They were at the right place at the right time. Remember Awoniyi was in the rots when Rohr took the job.

Did Rohr had a vision he would coach Nigeria in 2015 when the U17 took place?

Etebo was already in the national team before Rohr became our coach.

Ezenwa is not in the national team on merit.


Taiwo was already in the spotlight long before Osimhen. Please find another excuse.