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TheSuperNerd:
Chelsea 3 yrs ago were 4th. They are 9th now and you are in denial.

Arsenal is 1st and have much better stability now than you and you are laughing. Lol

That's real self deceit right there.

In 2012, where was Chelsea on the league before the won UEFA Champions league?

where they stable too?

Mr man off mic. Chelsea has not been stable for some years now.

TheSuperNerd:
@BOLDED... 3 yrs ago, Chelsea wasn't in a bad state. They finished 4th in the EPL and still won the UCL, same season. So what you say about them having a bad state is UNTRUE. VERY UNTRUE.

Lastly @OTHER bolded... this point is so poor. Napoli also reached the Quarters of Last season's UCL. So that suggests Osimhen should remain at Napoli too abi.

Truly, Forgiveness you shot yourself in the foot several times in your respone. You make no cogent or true points at all. From twisting, to lying and to talking emotionally like any biased Chelsea fan would... you only ended up saying nothing solid. Lol

Dey console yourself. I repeat. Chelsea wasn't in a stable state when they won UEFA Champions league in 2021.

Making 4th position is failure to Chelsea. Maybe your Arsenal is happy with 4th position.

However, you claimed Chelsea was stable in 2021. Can you tell me the reason Lampard was sacked for Tuchel if Chelsea was stable?

Na you dey lie

TheSuperNerd:
@bolded... I said it was 3 yrs ago since you won the UCL. And it will be 4 years by the time next season comes around and nears its end. That is 4/10 in a decade count.

You are just emotional right now about your club that it is making you not read properly. Lol

Emotionally ke!!! For wetin?

You dey misyan Chelsea is unstable. Abeg, when last was Chelsea stable?

Dis one dey even mention Arsenal. Kkkkkkkkk Lmao.

TheSuperNerd:
But Chelsea won't be in next season's UCL. You prefer Osimhen missing next season's UCL? You prefer Osimhen walking into the unstable atmosphere of your club right now?

That says everything about what kind of Fan you are. Lol

Who told you? Mathematically speaking, Chelsea is still in. Wait till the season finishes first.

TheSuperNerd:
2021 is 3 years ago. Right now, Chelsea isn't gonna make next season's UCL. Soon that will be 4/10 of a decade.

I never called PSG goodluck and they are not my PSG. Typical of you to always twist things.

I am just saying your Chelsea is in a bad state so definitely can't be the best move for Osimhen as well.

Arsenal is a better bet than Chelsea in my candid opinion.

Period.

Your personal opinion though. 3 years ago the same Chelsea was in a "bad state" but dem won against all odds.

The point remains you don't know anything about Chelsea because if you do, you will not open your mouth claiming good luck and stability don leave Chelsea.

That's being ignorant because when was Chelsea ever stable?

This dude is even claiming this will be 4/10 decades Chelsea will be missing Champions league.

Hello! Chelsea still played in UEFA Champions league last season and even got to the quarterfinals.

So stop that 4/10 decades misyan. Buy.

TheSuperNerd:
So he should go to your Chelsea. Place wey good luck and stability dey run from?

Hmmm! Good luck wey win 2021 Champions league? Abeg! Make dat good luck dey follow Chelsea.


Abeg! Wetin your good luck PSG don win for UEFA? Bhuhahahahaha! Dey deceive unaself.

charlesemeka85:
I prefer he moves to chelsea than psg

That move seem backward to me and osimhen hv done more to settle for such club unless say na for the money

Walahi! I no fancy the move at all. That league killed Neymar's chances of winning best player.

He for move to EPL.

Samueltemi337:
So going to Chelsea is what?

Chelsea is a top team better than PSG. Forget what Chelsea is going through now. It has even improved than last season.

jihday:
⏰ we wait

Going to PSG could be a waste of talent. Place wey Mbappe dey run from.

Ibadansun1:
Kabiyesi was clearly written in the Eulogy of their king

I suspect it's the Anglican church that forced them to accept that word or Kabiyesi is a Edo word that means Kabiyesasro

The boy is obviously a Bini boy.

Are you serious!!!!!! That guy is a bloody liar.

Ibadansun1:
Iamgrey5 was banned by antispam bots for Trying to show the Eulogy of the king of Ogori clearly written in Yoruba language.

Oh! Okay. That would have been good

babasolution:
No evidence of any Yoruba conquering,ogori-magongo language is neither yoruboid nor edoid,its a unique language and culture. Ogori also has a history of crossing the river Niger and staying in idomaland for close to 200 years,all these point to the fact that the ogori, had a culture and history far from Yoruba.

Our history did not start 500 years ago

I don hear.

babasolution:
For Ogori though it doesn't have any history of following oramiyan though,infact the reason stated for OGORI leaving IFE was banishment due to failure to fulfil sacrifices or discontentment by a so called prince.

There's no story of this prince in ile-ife, there's no story of this so called banishment in ile-ife

The story is concocted

Where did you see prince went to Ogori from Ife?

The point remains that around the time Ogori left Ile Ife 500 years ago, all the people there had been conquered and assimilated.

How is it possible Ogori maintained a culture and language different from Yoruba? Hmmm!??

babasolution:
I never said so,ogori was previously placed under kabba province by the colonialist.

However,Yoruba was used to propagate Christianity in Akoko-edo,ogori zone as it was a neutral language, some sort of lingua franca like English due to the fact that the zone comprising of numerous small villages which spoke different Languages.

Ogori was the first village in the whole Akoko-ondo, Akoko-edo zone to establish a primary school,the Anglican agents and the church propagated Yoruba language in the school and church. infact ogori were the ones who then preached and propagated Christianity to all that zone using Yoruba language.

Okay

sagitariusbaby:
To even imagine that some kids could just come up with some half baked information borders me. Who are the Egbira to you? Are you aware that Egbira as a tribe occupies more than two local government in Nasarawa state, Abaji in FCT and over 40 percent of Kogi West and the entire Kogi central, some part of Edo state which I am from?

Stop posting nonsense here please.

40% of Kogi west? Hmmm!!! Where exactly in Kogi west?

babasolution:
Emergence from IFE doesn't even signify Yoruba origins,IFE was a mixture of people's ,however the IFE origins ot benin tale is discredited,probably only the royal house

Many followed Oranmiyan to Benin and married the indigenes to create Yoruba indigenous group. In addition, there was long wars that eventually dethroned the Ogiso and established the royal house.

However, emergence from Ife at that time of migration which was just 500 years ago significantly signifies Yoruba origin because that area large and by were conquered and assimilated by Oduduwa.

Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

The biggest clown in history of Nairaland

Ogori Mangogo was never under the control of western region of Nigeria or Yoruba government ever.


Please research before telling baseless lies


Thank you

They guy thought old Kwara was under Western region hence Ogori and Mangogo people were forcefully thought Yoruba which was the reason their older generation learnt Yoruba.

No bi lie be dat?

Iamgrey5:
The guy is a clown

Every article point to the origin of Ogori's Yoruba origin but the Ebira later immigration from Kararafa had significant influence on the land scape of Kogi in general.

Exactly! There's no need arguing with him.

Iamgrey5:
The guy is lying

There's no point in history that Ogori Magogo trace their origin to Benin

Ogori Magogo are hybrid of Ebira and Yoruba just like Akoko Edo.

It was clearly stated in their history they came from Ife. Oludo was the first settler in one quarter while Akinbuyi in another quarter.

Unagogo was Oludo's son which later metaphor to Magogo.

Either ways, they migrated from Ile Ife but has somehow changed in language.

garfield1:
I have made my thread go and do yours and stop wailing childishly

Nairaland doesn't belong to you na. The point remains Hausa are not the majority indigenous people in Niger state. Fact lie.

babasolution:
According to history books written by a late king and another prominent historian from the community, they admitted that they can't decipher the exact origins of ogori-magongo.

However,history records that they were once in Benin due to some ancient swords of Benin make that ogori possesses and the ogori crown which is confirmed to be of Benin make,but ogori was probably in Benin as visitors and didn't originate from there.

Some clans also recall presence in the owo,Akoko zone as passersby probably on the journey from benin before finally settling in their current location

Some clans recall presence in as far as idomaland crossing the river Niger from the east end into ajaokuta and okpella axis,then to the northern Edo axis before settling in their current abode.

Note: that the okpella which isn't too far from ogori have in their history that they met an aborigine group called okwo in the lands they currently are.

Ogori actually call themselves okwo.so it probably might have been the same group.

Some narratives also state IFE origins but it's highly disputed and as been refuted by many historians within the community.

Some clans also state that they are autochonos and didn't migrate from anywere,the language highly supports this view.

In summary ,ogori seems to have a very ancient history, forming from an autochonos/aborigine group and later migrants from close by mainly from Benin and the Akoko zone.

Note: ogori arrived and had formed way before the ebira coming to that zone

Founding members include onu,adubane,oso,and ENI,however the name ogori is a corruption of the name of an ancestor called igoli,while mangogo is the corruption of the name of another ancestor called unagogo

Benin the corruption of Ilu Ibinu people are Ife married with Edos. Infact, the official language in the Obas palace was Yoruba before oyinbo came. Meaning, majority of Benin people have their descent from Ife but today they claim Benin.

garfield1:
Not true,a lot of ethnicities migrated to an already existing place.besides,they are now regarded as indigenes of Niger state so you have nothing to say

What is not true? That you migrated to a place already inhabited then claiming to be indigenous because of your population. Na fat lie. Except it's by assimilation or total conquest, nothing like indigenous if you migrated to well established place.

No doubt Hausa are indigenous to few local government hence doesn't tantamount to being the largest indigenous ethnic groups in Niger state. Fat lie.

However, if you're counting the Hausa that migrated from other states then count Igbos that has thousands of migrants there now.

Afterall, they might have migrated there 70 years ago
too. Kkkkk

Iamgrey5:
He mentioned Hausa in Kwara.

Maybe he think Bariba are Hausas?

Dude is ignorant. No single hausa is indigenous to Kwara state.

garfield1:
Don't be deceived by that.the HAUSAS in Nigeria migrated there mostly from sokoto 200 years ago and have now been indigenized.babangiza muazu and Sani bello are HAUSAS.there are rumours that ibb and abdulsalam may be HAUSAS

Even if you migrated to a place already inhabited and established by a group or ethnic group 1,000 years ago, you are not an indigenes but a visitor. Gbam

garfield1:
HAUSAS are the second largest in Niger state after nupes.

How many Local government have indigenous Hausas in Niger state? See LGA.

garfield1:
Minorities compared to the Hausa

Also in Mokwa. Besides, indigenous Hausa are not much in Niger state. Perhaps, you are confusing yourself with Niger republic.

garfield1:
Yorubas are mainly in kwara and parts of kogi west but HAUSAS are in Niger,nasarawa,plateau,kwara etc

Yorubas are also in Niger state. Jebba to be precise.

andrewbaba44:
You will continue watching highlights egbon

This is the second season counting

You will miss ucl for 5 seasons before the gods will forgive you .

Dey deceive yourself. Chelsea will make top 5 this season and hopefully qualify for UCL.

richiemcgold:

In the late 80s/early 90s, we used to rock moccasins, bikers and sancho boots . Then mid 90s came, and boom! Timbolo took over and it never looked back since then.

Tupac actually made it popular here in Nigeria.
That's as far back as 1996 in his video Hit Em Up.
A very dope JAMZ!
Check it below:
👇👇👇

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU&

You still remember Moccasin, Sanchos, Bikers? Kkkkkk you be old school lapel.

Mambilla is next. Kudos, sir

robosky02:
Ok let them Qualify for champions league first

He will help us qualify next season if we miss this season now.