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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:50pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
U called it a mistake bkus u were caught, if I no catch u nko? U For dun dey brag dey go say slavia is rated higher Galatasaray grin grin
If you no catch me, I go catch myself because I normally check my post twice or more to confirm my facts. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:47pm On Sep 01, 2018
komekn:
One question is Nwakali in the here and now better than Sone Aluko or even Chuks Aneke or even Hope Akpan

If you bring his age mates into the question , Ebere, Tega and Oviemuno then there is no contest if youth is the issue.
Abeg leave those people. They don't want the good of the team.

Imagine, Nwakali better pass Sone, Onomah, Abdul, Eze and even Chuks Aneke. Even Chuks Aneke better pass Nwakali by miles for now.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:42pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Lol bro yawa dun gas. Dat means we go still throw punches tire. I pray both of them make it outta the group so that d debate would hinge on who performed better for his club to get their respective clubs their knock out tickets.

Prepare urself for war grin grin
Hahahaha! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:41pm On Sep 01, 2018
andrew444:
Try and get your fact right next time

You just wanna troll and thats all

Anyway my regards to your twin brother,i dont know which one of you is southgate.

But the other should be roy hodgson or sam allardyce.
Fill in the gap. To....is......to .....is divine. Oya! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:28pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Facts abi lies? No be me wey just catch u now wey u say slavia na 38? grin grin
Which lie? I said Slava Prague not Sparta Prague but mistakenly mistook Sparta Prague for Slava Prague. grin

As you can see, mistake has been admitted and corrected but the fact still remains the same. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:25pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Wow now that's right, I hope he does well with them to join a better league ASAP. Me like that guy just got pissed by that move. I hope dey are in Europe this season bkus Dat will be a better place to showcase his talent?
Of course! Slava Prague missed out of the UEFA champions league but they made the Europa league.

Slava Prague and Bordeaux are in the same group. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:22pm On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I am aware of that. My only concern is the absence of Peter Olayinka. At least Ubong Ekpai featured for Plzen off the bench.

Modified:. I think he may be recovering from an Injury he sustained.
Me I no know ooo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:21pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Yes but I'd rather play in one of the top 5 leagues where the big boys do battle than somewhere in Czech, Poland etc Bhuuuhahaha.

Even Sparta is rated higher than Marseille, fiorentina et al but no Sane player will turn down Marseille for Sparta just as no Sane player will choose slavia ahead of Bordeaux or even lowly Reims grin grin
Does that change the fact that Slava Prague is rated highly than Bordeaux currently? Think about that one first. Ndo! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:15pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
U just shot urself in the foot in ur quest to berate my boys. Yinka went to Slavia (112) not Sparta (38) grin grin
Na you dey berate. I just dey show you facts. That's all. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:08pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Check well, then tell me who really needs the "ndo" Bhuuuhahaha grin grin
Na you na. Ndo! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:08pm On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Hey! That is Sparta Prague... Not SK Slavia Prague. Na wa ooo... Anyway, Slavia Prague is still a top team in Czech republic. So no qualms.
Na mistake but currently Slava Prague still dey top league. Dem even flog last year champions 4 nut nau nau grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:06pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
U just shot urself in the foot in ur quest to berate my boys. Yinka went to Slavia (112) not Sparta (38) grin grin
Nice one. But 112 still high pass 118 wey Bordeaux dey chilax na. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:57pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Bhuuuhahaha was that why he went to Slavia just like his brother who went to Pyramid? grin grin
How far? Ndo! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:55pm On Sep 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Ask ur paddy paddy, sir forgiveness grin
But Slava Prague is highly rated than both Galatassary and Bordeaux by UEFA na. Do you want fact? See below.

Slava Prague is occupying the 38th position while Galatassary and Bordeaux are both occupying the 72th and 118th positions respectively in the current 2018/2019 UEFA rating.

See the source and the snapshots below.

https://www.football-coefficient.eu

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:40pm On Sep 01, 2018
charlesemeka85:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha olayinka wey better pass onyekuru
Based on last season stats Peter did better than both Kalu and Onyekuru in the same league. Fact
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:23pm On Sep 01, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
It won't be an easy task to take him from Denmark. If I'm not mistaken they also like better thing there too.
Hahahaha! Na true talk but we should approach him now that he has been ignored by them. I no dem like better think but we need to act quickly to get him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:20pm On Sep 01, 2018
charlesemeka85:
rohr should approach this guy na!
Rohr! Call better players!? Una go wait tire.

We will soon lose am to Denmark if he continues this way. What a pity!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:31pm On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
This is Egbon Forgiveness on seeing K Nwakali being called up from Portuguese Second Tier...
Hahahaha! Chop I chop analysis dey worry you oooo.what else do one expect from a two faced double standard fellow? Hahahaha!

I just expose lies u know.... grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheSuperNerd:
Na by force to watch this useless channel? Lol

Look, Channel have been since changed man... But you keep pushing it because you want to drive home a silly useless point to put down Nwakali. Abeg don't kill yourself over his invite okay... Take panadol and cool down and all will be fine. Top 7 second tiers >>>>> stone age leagues outside top 20 of Europe... Loll.. bye.. **double clicks**
Bhahahaha! See agitation. As long as you no go fit collect or click my phone, I go dey expose ya lies. Bhahahaha.

Segunda Liga is an OBSCURE league compared with the Scottish league. Says UEFA. grin

Oluwole chop I chop analyses dey useless for here. Bhahahaha cheesy grin grin grin grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:24pm On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Thanks Andy. And that is just part of my point. Now does that make the Ukrainian league any close to being as competitive or high in quality compared to the EPL? I guess the obvious answer is no. Anyway, I am done with that topic now shaa... I am just chilling
That is the reason the EPL is rated than the Ukrainian league. Simply because they have more teams rated than Sharktar Doneskt and more teams rated than other clubs in the Ukrainian league. Simply arithmetic.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:15pm On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Like I already said Egbon... It is all in your head. All this one is tales by moonlight. Lol... On no universe is Ukrainian league even close to being on par with EPL just because Shakhtar outranks more than half of the clubs in the EPL... smiley So also it is that the second divisions of the Top 7 leagues rate higher than those of Norway in no.24 and Scotland in no.21. Porto B is also the second team of Portugal's biggest elite side and won the Ledman liga pro as recently as Two years ago.. so deal with it.

Changing the channel now mister. Argue with the gap in class between Top 7 second tiers and Stone-age leagues in nos 21 and 24... Hahahahahahahahahaha... Bye bye. **Clicks**
You can only deceive yourself. grin

Now, let me help you on how league rating is done. This is an extract from the authorized source not the oluwole chop I chop analysis you wanna shove down people's throat here. Now, take note of the bolded and learn how UEFA dey do dem things. grin



The country coefficient is used to rank the football associations of Europe, and thus determine the number of clubs from an association that will participate in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League.


The UEFA ranking determines the number of teams competing in the season after the next, not in the first season after the publication of the ranking. Thus, the rankings at the end of the 2017–18 season determine the team allocation by association in the 2019–20 (not 2018–19) UEFA season; however, the actual teams that will be participating in the 2019–20 UEFA season are determined at the end of the 2018–19 season when the individual association classifications and national cups are finalized.

This coefficient is determined by the results of the clubs of the associations in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Europa League games over the past five seasons. Two points are awarded for each win by a club, and one for a draw (points are halved in the qualifying and playoff rounds). Results determined by extra time do count in determining the allocation of points, but results determined by penalty-shootouts do not affect the allocation of points, other than for bonus points given for qualification into the latter rounds of the Champions League or the Europa League. The number of points awarded each season is divided by the number of teams that participated for that association in that season. This number is then rounded down to three decimal places (e.g. 2⅔ would be rounded to 2.666).[14][15]

To determine a country's coefficient for a particular season, the coefficients for the last five seasons are added. Bonus points are added to the number of points scored in a season. Bonus points are allocated for....

UEFA coefficient - Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › UEF...


The second bolded said it all. The coefficient is DETERMINED by the RESULTS of the CLUBS(take note of the plural) of the ASSOCIATIONS(leagues) in .......in the last five years grin

How many of those obscure clubs in that obscure Segunda Liga teams played in UEFA...in the last five years? grin

Point is, the Scottish league is rated but the obscure Segunda Liga is nowhere near any ratings. No do attach put Segunda Liga in the same level with Scottish league because Portuguese first tier is rated number 7.

Portuguese first tier and Segunda Liga are different leagues entirely. Fact. Gbam. grin

Case closed. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:36pm On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
All this talk is only in your head. Assumptions and more assumptions from the coffers of personal opinion. Nothing more. Top 7 beats no.21 and 24 anytime anyday. After all, even Shakhtar is in a league ranked no 8 and rates higher than more than half of the clubs in the EPL. Does it make Ukrainian league better than the EPL or even at par? Funny.
Portuguese first tier is far better than the Scottish league, agreed. But we are talking about and pitching the Portuguese second tier league which is an obscure and lowly league against the Scottish league.

This is the Koko. grin


Now, we all know that the rating and performance of a team in UEFA competitions determines the rating of a league. O...ha!

Now, tell me, how many of those teams in the Segunda Liga made the UEFA coefficient rating? grin

Only one team in the Segunda Liga which is the second tier of the Portuguese league is rated.

How many of those Scottish teams made the UEFA coefficient rating? grin

8 Scottish teams made the UEFA coefficient out of 448 teams rated while the segunda Liga has ONLY ONE yet you want us to believe Segunda Liga is better than the Scottish league. Bhahahaha! grin chai! grin

For those who wants to rescue themselves from falsehood, check the source below. grin

Na the snapshot be dat.

Football coefficient ranking - Club ranking Celtic FC
https://www.football-coefficient.eu › team

Our coaching crew went all the way to source a player from obscure league after ignoring those in the top 10 leagues. Abassing mbong! grin

Make dem replace that one wey get injury with Deji Beyreuther sharp sharp.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:54am On Sep 01, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Lol... A few folks here are truly clownish. So saying EFL league Two is better and higher than German Bundesliga 2 is neither absurd nor downright shitty but affirming a truth that Portuguese Ledman Liga Pro is higher than both Norway and Scotland backed up with UEFA Coefficients and logical facts is absurb right? The height of Hypocritical nonsense some folks promote here... Lol... Reason why I don't engage or take many here seriously.

Hate it, run from it, ignore it or argue it.. but the fact remains that nos 21- and 24-rated leagues are way below the second divisions of the top 7 leagues in Europe. Finito.
No doubt about it that Portuguese Liga is higher than Scotland and Norway league but if all the teams in Segunda Liga play in Scotland league with Rangers, Celtics, Aberdeen, Hibernian, Heart of Midlothian etc I don't think dey have the financial power to remain in the Scottish league. Most will go into relegation.

How many of those Segunda Liga team are rated by UEFA coefficient?

How many are performing or had performed in a UEFA organized competition?

For your information, only one club in that lowly league is rated by UEFA coefficient. grin

This is the snapshots showing the calibre of teams in the Segunda Liga you think is better than the Scottish teams. What an irony! grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:04am On Sep 01, 2018
Mickael2:
They are actually a good team, by next season he would be playing in the first tier I can assure you and by then it would be an awesome decision.
Here, some people don't know how to access player's progression either in a positive or negative way.

I have seen lots of Nigerian players that excelled in division two progressed to top leagues.

Even Griezmann progressed from division 2 and played in la Liga for 4 years before he was noticed by Athletico Madrid.

The likes of Jay Jay Okocha, Tijani Babangida, Olanrewaju Kayode, Olaitan Michael etc moved from division 2 to big teams after they distinguished themselves.

The point is, if Chidi Nwakali gets regular play time and by any means distinguises himself with Motm and help his team get promotion to the polish first tier, he could be noticed by a top club in Poland league playing in Europe. Once, he distinguishes himself with such club and in Europe, he will be noticed by a big team. His personal input in the team success is paramount in getting a better club.

Of course, I don't expect him to get a call up to play for the super eagles because there are players doing better than him in better leagues. This has always been my problem with the team selection when better players are by passed for struggling ones.

As it stands, Kelechi Nwakali doesn't DESERVE to be called for a national duty based on the fact that there are players doing better than him in a better league. Fact

He may be in a better position to revive his career but he has done nothing wow to have deserved to be called this time and even at the time he was called. He is in the team because he could bride his way in. EOD

Those supporting his inclusion doesn't love the national team. They hyped Iheanachonaldo reach heaven but we all saw wetin happen. Now, dem wan deceive me again with KC. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:31am On Aug 31, 2018
tbaba1234:
Igboun is playing on the left for his club..

These are the options that already can play on the left for Nigeria.

Iwobi
Etebo
Musa
S.Moses
Onyekuru
Kalu
Isaac Success
Bonaventure

It is a competitive position.
I thought Bonaventure is a striker while Kalu is a right winger.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:34pm On Aug 30, 2018
ChrisKels:
Lol ur love rates the championship higher than the lower part of ligue1, that was what prompted the question. So is the championship better than the lower part of ligue1 where Reims belong? Yes or no grin grin
You be gay? shocked which one kon be love kwa?

Is Reims fighting relegation this season? Yes or no. Answer
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:17pm On Aug 30, 2018
ChrisKels:
Just as Watford is forth in the Epl grin grin

Where was Reims last season? Be rational for once
Was Reims fighting relegation last season? Yes or no

Is Reims fighting relegation this season? Yes or no

Tribalism has eaten deeply into your reasoning that you can't make a rational statement deviod of subjective reasoning.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:19pm On Aug 30, 2018
ChrisKels:
Seyi Ojo joins Reims on loan. Would u rather he left for a championship club than a relegation fighting team in the ligue 1?
I don't know why you like bringing people down. You know what I mean.

How can Reims who is occupying the sixth position in the Ligue 1 be fighting relegation?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:05pm On Aug 30, 2018
Truidstar:
1. English Premiership
2. English Championship
3. German Bundesliga
4. German 2nd Division
5. Spanish La Liga
6. Spanish 2nd Division
7. Italian Serie A
8. French Ligue 1
9. Belgian pro division
10. Portuguese league
11. Turkish league
12. Dutch Erevedisie

This is where the bulk of players should be selected from. If the NFF Technical Committee knows their job (I stand to be corrected) They should tell Rohr to pick his players from the leagues above. A player who decides to go to China or Saudi Arabia is putting himself first before the National Team.
The NFF should set up a data center to monitor players in the above leagues. Players will be invited based on stats related to performance and not on sentiments.
I will agree with you to some extent. However, I think players in the top 10 best leagues in Europe and in a top club consistent in Europe should only be considered. Ukrainian, Russian and Austrian top club players should be considered.

I think players that have played in top clubs and SE before moving for money to China should also be considered.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:22pm On Aug 30, 2018
kennysville:
U be the judge of that. Decide who is on the same level. But before you do, try put things into proper perspective. All things being equal
Me!?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:19pm On Aug 30, 2018
chrisooblog:
the guilty are always uncomfortable didn't mention names but your conscience would not allow you ignore my comment
I only advised you to grow beyond subjective reasoning but you're here speaking in an unknown tongue.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:14pm On Aug 30, 2018
chrisooblog:
grin grin grin grin looooooooooooooooooool

very typical crying like a baby sorry o voltron of ajagun the midfielder of our time

the only player in nigerian league to win title outstandingly

the jagun ajagun of panathanikos who walked on water straight into first team

the man who won on... sorry a million motm awards in belgium holland

the man who conquered europe sorry europa with a single goal

the man whose name evokes tears, hurt and gnashing of teeth

zidane maradona and pele are in awe of his name

everybody help me beg the ADC of ajagun for blaspheming his ogas name before he reports me to presidency, america or united nations
Crying! I know bigot like you will resort to subjective rant devoid of objective reasoning.

What a pity! Tah! tah! tah!

Accept you lied big time and move on. That's all.

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