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goldfish80:
Hosting logistics have always proved to be a huge challenge for any world cup host. I know the Koreans used cruise boats to accomade fans during the world. It was also done during Olympics in Sydney. As a matter of fact, Qatar's LOC are toying with the idea of having tents and using cruise boats to overcome the challenge, since they cannot meet up with the over 600K hotel rooms FIFA mandated them to provide. Mind you, this numver will increase stratospherically with the world cup expansion. We could be looking at an additional 300-400K with the expansion.

Look, world cup is no child's play. The logistics to host the event is very steep especially for an under developed like Nigeria who still depends alot on foreign aids to cater for basic needs of the country.
Nigeria will have to borrow more than $50B just to embark on a white elephant project that is to host a world cup. This number is in absence of local debt.
How many generations will it take to pay off such huge debt deficit and incurring interest? Will there still be life after the world cup? What if crude oil prize takes a hit right after the tournament? How on earth do you cussion the recession that will follow?

The next world cup host, Qatar has as much as $340B in external reserves. With that hedge funds, they can dig themselves out of any economic recession after the world cup if crude prizes prove unstable. How much do your country have in external reserves?

Honestly, I dont know why Nigerians think too much of themselves with this big time Charlie attitude of thinking we are too big, when we have nothing.
This same delusional mindset was the reason some overrated the Super Eagles before the world cup. Even dreaming of making the semi finals, they tagged those of us who were real of having deafist mindset.

I know there is a huge challenge in hosting the world but it is not impossible to host it.


Qater hotels are concentrated in Doha. It is unlike Nigeria with hotels in major cities. Besides, they are using only 8 cities unlike 12 cities used by Russia.

The reason for that is, FIFA wants to rotate the hosting ri right of the world cup among the continents hence the need to adjust to level of continents according to their situations.

However, we can't bid for the 2022 and 2026 FIFA world cup because it have been awarded already.

Therefore, we are talking about bidding for 2030 FIFA world cup which is about 12 years to come.

Now, considering the amount of money spent on infrastructures so far and the fact that we will not remain stagnant for 12 years, how can one in his right mindset think we still need to spend $50b?

Will we use $50b dollars to build hotels and stadiums, when already billions of dollars have been pumped into constructiond of 4 international airports and local airports, construction of railway line running from North to South, East to West and South to East, constructions of inter states roads, construction of mono/metro lines, construction of power plants, construction of the biggest refinery in Africa and refineries all over, construction of 3 largest gas plant in the world etcetera?

Are we building all these things just to host the world cup or encourage inflow of internal direct foreign investment to boast our economy?

Abi, we should continue to dwell with such parochial attitudes?

Joebie:
I’m confused. FIFA or not. We are competing against other African countries to host. I threw in a scenario because it appears you are lowering the bar. The question remains who can present the BEST afcon experience?

If it's about hosting Best Afcon, we can do it better?

experimentist:
Oho, toh. Ni ina Lagos. Mu hadu a whatsapp mana.

You wan take style collect ya rin ya contact so that you go tell am 'yanrinya Ina su ki', ba? Continue.

goldfish80:
Maybe you didn't realize the last world cup in Russia, countries like Peru, Colombia and Argentina had as much as 40-50k fans per game, present in the stadium.
Where will those teaming number of fans stay? You expect them to sleep in the stadium?
If hosting world cups was all about having stadium, even Equatorial Guinea can comfortably host the world cup.
Devote your time in doing a little bit of research before you engage in some debates. It makes it easier for everyone.

Prior to the 2002 world cup I toured major cities hosting the world cup in Korea. Infact, entered 1 or 2 of the stadiums and even had a feel of the grass.

That's why I can tell you that a city does need 30,000 hotel rooms before they host world cup because some of those cities I visited didn't have such numbers of hotels as at that time. You can lodge in neighbouring cities and still watch your matches.

However, 40,000 or 50,000 fans coming to support a team is normally a special case but if peradventure such happens, cities around are available.

If it is about research, I don tey for dis world cup hosting things for 8 years.

goldfish80:
Hosting world cups is not just about stadia. The logistics to cater for tourists and visitors is even more important than your beautiful stadia.
For instance, each hosting city will need atleast 30 thousand standard hotel rooms! Can Plateau state, Awka Ibom or Taraba offer this nunber of standard hotel rooms?
How about constant power? Can your country commit to producing constant power for the 1 month tournament?
How about transportation? How good are your inter state roads? Are your trains working? How many decent airports can you boast of in the entire country?
I won't even mention security and about $30B in liquid cash needed to finance the entire project. As it stands, I will be surprised if Nigeria's external foreign reserve is up to $30B.
Hopefully, in 60yrs time, Nigeria will be ready but as it stands. We have ZERO chance!

But it's the first criterion that determines hosting FIFA world cup. Abi na hotel and light dem go take play football?

How many 30,000 standard rooms did Jeju or Suwon have before they hosted the world cup?

Why must Akwa Ibom and Plateau state need 30,000 world class hotel rooms?

Are they hosting the opening ceremony or the final match?

Are 30,000 foreigners coming to watch group stage matches in Uyo and Job?

Abi na hotel their residents go go rent because of world cup?

I don't think they need up to that amount of hotel rooms because the venue are only to host group stage and second round matches, and we know most fans will be from the teams playing in those cities.

We also know that there are certain numbers of tickets allocated to each teams and the host city which favours the host city. Even some teams fans no dey reach 6 while some may reach 3,000. Out of which many comes with their family, friend or colleague. Meaning they have to share rooms which reduces the numbers of rooms by half.

However, If that be the case then I am sure Akwa Ibom can host 5,000 fans comfortably in their hotels.

Currently, they have more than 2,000 hotel rooms which more than half have world class rooms. Fact

I use to know about Jos hotels but I will leave that to those in Jos to answer you.

Beside these two places, Port Harcourt, Abuja, Lagos, Ibadan, Enugu, Kano etc have good hotels that can host fans.

In regards to light, generator don't finish for market?

Are the stadiums, Hotels, restaurants, etc relying on NEPA?

How did we host the other FIFA competitions without light issues?

On transportation, roads from Lagos to East - Port Harcourt are good. The bad part along Ore to Shagamu is under construction. From Lagos to Ibadan is also under construction.

Abuja to Kaduna by train is functioning while train from Lagos to Kaduna is underconstruction.

There is remodeling and reconstruction of airports in major cities.

We don't need $30b Nada because most of these projects are already ongoing. Gbam!

Joebie:
I’m aware of that. Ongoing construction is far different from what is already on ground.
Even after construction, how is about maintenance culture?..

Stick to one argument and stop dabaruing the whole thing.

Afcon of FIFA world cup?

Joebie:
Infrastructure, good organization culture. What are the chances that there is going to be power outages if we host? How about organization lapses? Oga we know our way. How do you compare our airports to those of the lesser countries you have been to? I don’t know about you but when I go to other countries I take special note of their airport facilities and personnel. That’s the first limpression, that’s what greets you about the people. I’m surprised you are quite confident about Nigeria presenting the best AFCON EXPERIENCE, even if we removed South Africa.

Nigeria as a country is not serious about anything except owambe.

Nigeria is not serious yet hosted 1999 FIFA U20 world cup, 2000 Afcon and 2009 FIFA U17 world cup yet none of these so called countries have been able to do that save Egypt.


Besides, you're confused. Stick to either hosting world cup or Afcon.

komekn:
One of things about development its often measured in comparison.

We are Nigeria not Togo we should make comparison with south Africa and North Africa. That will tell us our level of infrastructural development.

To host the world cup, you firstly need 12 stadiums with at least 40,000 capacity.

How many of those North African countries can boast of
12 stadiums with such capacity? None

Only Morocco has 6 of those while Egypt, Tunisia and Algeria have 3, 2 & 3 respectively while we have 4 of such capacity.

If we put our stadiums side by side with all the aforementioned stadiums, they are inferior to most of our stadiums.

As you can see, are even ahead of these countries in terms of hosting football matches.

komekn:
Do you think we can compete with Morocco for infrastructure.

It's not just about stadiums alone you must add security, socail responsibility, tourism, connectivity etc.

Cross the border from Ghana to Togo and Togo to Benin then compare that with Some border. Add to that compare the road all the way to Seme. Then enter our road from the border count the multiple checkpoints by every Tom, dick and Harry that's a public official.

Then tell me we are Truly Ready.

If AFCON is in Morocco I probably will drive from Manchester to Tangier - Marrakesh, etc without any problem or worries.

If we win to celebrate I'll drive from there to Lagos

What does it take to be truly ready?

I don't think Nigeria was as developed as this when we hosted 2000 Afcon and FIFA underaged world cup twice which was just in the last 19 years. Take note that the infrastructures inplace now is far far better than when we hosted those competitions.

Joebie:
See the earlier modified. Then ask yourself since you are well travelled. Can we present a better AFCON experience than South Africa, Morocco, Algeria, Egypt and Tunisia? If all the forementioned presented a bid to host the World Cup for example, rank their seriousness to host based on what is already on ground? Talk truth

Why not? Remove South Africa because it wasn't long they hosted it.

Now, can you tell what Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco have thatput them in a better position to host Afcon?

Egypt!? Well!

If Nigeria wants to host world cup!

Let me know what you mean by seriousness first before I give an answer.

Joebie:
Many Nigerians who are well travelled will disagree. I’ve been in Abuja continuously for 5 months now, and spent a considerable amount of time in Lagos.
For one thing, Lagos has serious transportation challenges. Can Lagos host? Why not. But the question remains can we deliver the BEST AFCON experience ever? I beg to differ

Modified
How good are our airports (the first impression) etc? Definitely not a great experience for players who are well travelled and have seen better facilities in some other African countries.

Can you pls tell me the challenges facing Lagos state transportation?

It seems you don't know about the ongoing airports remodeling and reconstruction pojects currently all over the country.

Joebie:
Many Nigerians who are well travelled will disagree. I’ve been in Abuja continuously for 5 months now, and spent a considerable amount of time in Lagos.
For one thing, Lagos has serious transportation challenges. Can Lagos host? Why not. But the question remains can we deliver the BEST AFCON experience ever? I beg to differ

With what will well traveled disagree?

I have been to atleast one or two countries in West Africa, Central Africa, East Africa, Middle East and Asia, so I know we might not be in the same level with the later two but the rest no reach us.

So, there is nothing to disagree about if Africa is the scale S.I unit measurement used to measure standard.

We are not comparing ourselves with America or Europe neither are we hosting FIFA world cup.

It's AFCON we are hosting. Can we host best AFCON? Why not! Mind you, we co hosted 2000 AFCON and it was at the time we were not this developed.

tsephanyah:
PMB sak

Hahahaha! Dis ya campaign reach sports section too.

Do you like sports? I mean football?

Joebie:
Can we host the best AFCON experience Africa has ever witnessed. Having great stadiums is still our challenge. But I’m not talking about stadiums alone.

Yes, we can host it.

We have good cities with good infrastructures like good roads, good hotels, airports, capital projects such as stadiums, training camps, athlete villages, hospitals and transport hubs, restaurants, mobile media, malls, security etc

Lagos, Abuja, Port Harcourt, Ibadan, Uyo and Kano can provide these infrastructures.

DrLikita12:
I don't know how it's done but if it is not difficult then why not? At least it would be like a long term investment
It would be good for us to host something even though I know we have to get our act together first

Sure! Let us wait and see what NFF is up to.

junnyjake:
Yeah, would do.

But I'm not currently in Jos.

Great. Thanks

DrLikita12:
The turf is artificial. Someone here mentioned that the field must be natural.

Some of the stadiums Cameroun proposed/intended to use for the Afcon is artificial but they are replacing it with natural grass.

It is not difficult if we truly want to host Afcon.

junnyjake:
Wow!

Now you're talking @ the first pic, even though, they've progressed a bit further with work.

Wow! Can you pls post the pictures of the recent works?

AbuMikey:
The First Picture is from the Department of Architecture, UNIJOS, not the new Jos Staduim.

THE Second picture is National Stadium Abuja, obviously.

It is the prototype of the new stadium. Fact

Compare the outside and the inside of the prototype stadium with these real one.

DrLikita12:
The first picture is the correct model.
The second picture is not the New Jos Stadium. Maybe Abuja Stadium

This is a picture from June from Plateau Utd's twitter handle. Last I read a loan was approved for the completion of the stadium. The field has been completed but I doubt if the chairs and other equipment have been installed.

Correct. Thanks. I thought as must but I know by the time I post it here somebody will call me out. Thanks again.

Notwithstanding, the stadium is good enough to host Afcon if completed.

wayodude:
Whatever the case, if the pitch size will remain as it was then theres no point in renovating that stadium.

That I don't know but it is currently under renovation.

New Jos Stadium.

wayodude:
They should have demolished that stadium and rebuilt it. The pitch is far too small for that stadium to be considered as a match venue for any real game of football.

Demolish a whole stadium because of size of pitch! That one no go work.

tbaba1234:
Olympic Marseille in line to sign Mikel Agu on loan with an option to buy.

That's a good one.

tsephanyah:
Lol. He stopped witch-hunt against Maina that's why.

Hahahaha! I see. But you are not related to him na. As in, you're not from the same state. Except you have told me ......

tsephanyah:
Good work




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*Whispering* can you pls tell me what is the secret behind your sudden change of mind to support Buhari?

I promise not to tell anybody.

ChrisKels:
Moussa Wague already in the city for his Barcelona medical. Soon he will put pen to paper as a back up to Nelson Semedo. He will shuttle between laliga Barca and Barca B to aid his development as he is just 19.

Forgiveness u said Shehu was better than this boy as a right back in the world cup

Show me were I said so else I will say ....you can lie ooooo.

tsephanyah:
in politics there is no permanent enemy I guess

Hahahaha!

You are definitely a politician.

I like that.

Oasis007:
This Stadium ain't Obafemi Awolowo Stadium, rather Adameisigba Stadium, the Home of 3SC. The Turf is artificial, not natural as some Folks are saying.


We ain't ready to host any International Competition especially AFCON 2019, except TBS turf is replaced with natural Grass and the Onikan Stadium is completed as scheduled.

Abuja Stadium only requires little touches. Uyo Stadium is ready same as Adokiye Stadium. Also I read it somewhere that Udom is building another massive, world standard Stadium in Akwa Ibom, Eket Town precisely - if it's true and can be completed by December - then we are good to go!

However, if the Eket Stadium ain't gonna be ready before December, then Sanni Abacha Stadium should come to the Rescue - turf only needs to be replaced. The standard is OK!

Akwa Ibom - 2 Stadia
Portharcourt- 1 Stadium
Lagos - 2 Stadia
Abuja - 1 Stadium.

Do you mean Obafemi Awolowo stadium's turf is artificial?

Tesilm Balogun stadium has been approved for renovation and change of turf to grass.


https://lagosstate.gov.ng/blog/2018/05/15/lagos-to-regrass-teslim-balogun-campus-mini-stadium-to-host-intl-matches/


Eket stadium construction is on course.

tsephanyah:
lol. I was banned for spamming

I see but I meant your sudden support for Buhari is unusual of your former stance.

tsephanyah:




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