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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:52pm On Jun 03, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
So you see nothing wrong in ONAZI starting matches?
Mikel was the biggest culprit in the first half doesn't mean I didn't see anything wrong in Onazi.

However, as it stands, he is the best available DMF on ground pending Ndidi is fit.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:48pm On Jun 03, 2018
ykalhaji:
They are not bad players. They have a contract with a professional club, so they can play at least. So do hundreds of other Nigerian players, but the truth is for the composition of our midfield and defence, Onazi's style of running around like a headless chicken and floating like a bee puts every other midfield player in an indecision place. That was good when he was younger and could recover quickly (The reason we loved him) but now we have an Ndidi and a co-ordinated defense, where positioning and space close out is their foundation (Oyinbo drilling since small pikin) not running around and 7 people defending in the box like we have been used to.
Onazi's runs confuses the players. He is an elder, the younger guys can't shout at him when he bleeps up, but you can see that when Onazi is out, that midfield and defence runs smoother. In other words Onazi did not improve his skills and has lost his recovery speed.

Joel... I have no freaking clue this guys advantage playing for us. Some here said he is the Mikel replacement all I see is an average player that is finding it hard to gel with the players.

Except Rohr wants to use them as practice teams for the main starter team, me I no see their usefulness.
At this point, we have to do with what we have.

Ndidi is not yet fit and has not played ball for the past 3-4 weeks. The fit once are Ogu, and Onazi, they are the only DMF in the team.

So, it's either you start Ogu or Onazi pending Ndidi gets fit.

There's is nothing we can do now but remember this same Onazi played in all our qualifiers.

However, the outcome of our outing in Russia will determine who stays and who goes but I expect us to strengthen the team regardless of what happens in Russia because I don't think some players are good enough to be in the team.

So, let us relax and enjoy ourselves.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:18pm On Jun 03, 2018
ykalhaji:
Mr Forgiveness you have been proven right ooo... I knew Rohr would stick with Onazi and had a bias for Joel but all sentiments aside Onazi and Joel had no reason to be invited in the first place let alone go to the world cup.

The funny thing is Rohr will still start Onazi (that causes Ndidi to defer the control of the DM to him) against Croatia.
Lol.

Well it is done now, in TheGoodJoe's voice the next thing is serious drills and drilling for the boys.

PS Let us just know Vic Moses will never change. We just have to live with his plays.

Go Super Eagles go Super Eagles. Make us proud.
I don't think Onazi and Joel are bad players. Yesterday, I will single out Mikel for their poor performance. Even Rohr should know that.

Onazi will start matches for now.

Victor Moses rely too much on his individual skills. He needs to play with the team.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:11pm On Jun 03, 2018
Martz101:
Ogu has been a good player, you guys just realizing it now, he was dropped in 2014 unfairly...he played our game against italy in england and was our best but was still dropped
Hahahahahah! Realizing it now!? Hahahahahaha!

I know Ogu is good but if we go by some standard here he should be dropped regardless of how good he is. That's my point.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:00am On Jun 03, 2018
edi287:
Yeah Awaziem might get dropped. I remember there were reports that Ogu trained as a CB in the past, didn't think Rohr would try out in a game.
One of the benefits of having someone like him as a CB in a three man defence is he can always switch back to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 when required.
After this world cup, Rohr needs to look at our midfield options. He should be looking at more creative CMs. Get someone who can pass from deep if he insists on playing Mikel as a 10.
I agree with you on Ogu. He's a good and utility player.
He's surely on his way to Russia.

I think you are right, he should search for a creative Cms that can pass from deep after the world cup.

For now, Ogu can do that with ease and I hope he is given the chance.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:43pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
Ehen be contributing like this. Keep this up.

Modified
But how many tones did the two DMs find Mikel?
*Yimu*

Many times but the English boys intercepted balls passed to him and got the balls from him when he held on too much.

It simple means they pressed our midfield, most especially Mikel but he was not smart enough to release the ball on time.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:39pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:
The bolded made me laugh.

This kind football analysis na im we want Bro. Nice one.
Hahahahahaha! Na so I Etebo. Tomorrow e go be like say na worwor player em bi but he is a good player.

D one wey I dey do before na still analysis but una no go understand. tongue grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:34pm On Jun 02, 2018
edi287:
Gbam!! Ighalo today surprising lacked mobility. His movement was disappointing.
Mikel playing deep helped big time. It goes back to what i, Icon79, Oasis007, etc have been saying - PLAY MIKEL A BIT DEEPER. Ogu playing as a CB helped too as he's better than all our CBs on the ball.
Well, I think Ighalo was a little bit isolated. He can do better than that.

Mikel Obi playing in the CMF is better because he will be defensive minded though he can still dictate the attack from deep.

Ogu playing as a defender CB came as a surprise to me. This is not a good signal for Awaziem because he might be dropped.

Let us see the friendly and see if we can improve the frontline.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:23pm On Jun 02, 2018
mank1234:
When it comes to reading games and statistics you're spot on.
Well, we are still learning. wink
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:44pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:
What is killing our coach is not this so called average team bullshyte some trogs are crying up and down here. The coach is damn too conservative. He only tries new things when the situation is gone awry. He did it against Argentina, he was saved. Today again same thing.

Those players that played first half were basically chosen in accordance with the-you never - change - a - winning-team mantra. Winning team bawo?. I say the times have changed. This is not the age for mantras. This is not the age for formulas. You have to think and rethink your strategy.

Even with these set of players if the coach is a bit radical we can hurt teams and win games.
Bros, have joined the wailing club?

The thing fit you. grin

Na play I dey ooooooo. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:31pm On Jun 02, 2018
Loogan:
Hope you guys can see what etebo brought today, he’s the most flexible cm we have, impacted the game very well, gets my nod over onazi....pity we lost, we have sorted our midfield issues to some extent good cohesion and link up passes.
But it’s all the more dissatisfing that if we completed half of our passes in the final third we would have scored more, still an issues we always seem clueless and unsettled in front of goal.
But I was absolutely proud of our second half, ebuehi is our RB, no doubts, idowus game was the most pleasant feeling for me, he has adapted and has pretty much won his spot.
Ogu is class, that guy will play anywhere, was smooth and commanding when he played center defence, balogun I’m sure impressed his new suitors. We played England’s first team and our performance especially in the second half got southgate and those English boys nervous!
Etebo na NEPA. Off and on.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:26pm On Jun 02, 2018
Danielnino00:
My verdict after today's game

1) Joel Obi is useless: whatever story we read on this thread that Joel was impressive in camp or he is doing well in SerieA are nothing but load of hogwash. he is very useless. I'll take Agu ahead of him any time. his fans are just hyping him unnecessary here since . they said he could play DM, CM,AM,LB... They said he could play better with Mikel.. it's been 4 games now and he hasn't done sh*t.. he should be dropped..

2) Iwobi isn't a winger: I don't think we need to deliberate on this any more... its been proven already that he is ineffective from the wings...

3) 3-5-2 is the real thing: the loss of Moses Simeon is the major reason I think this formation should b our main one at d WC..

4) Ogu is a huge asset: need I say more?? sorry for those who were saying he would b dropped yesterday

5) Odogwu Mikel is still the boss...



The first half of d game was very frustrating.. When Ndidi returns,I expect to see Onazi back on the bench.


And finally,Rohr should pls drop Joel obi
Mikel Obi was the biggest culprist in the first half.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:55pm On Jun 02, 2018
I fear for Awaziem.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:51pm On Jun 02, 2018
lexyman:
another dimension , more like it ,what happened to the team when the changes were made ?
After the coach saw the lapses, he decided to change the formation and moved Mikel close to the back then placed Iwobi who wasn't doing any defensive work on the wing ahead of Mikel.

Meaning, he doesn't need to create chances rather bring stability to the team. Since, he is now aware, he needed to do more of defending and allow Iwobi roam.

He can't remove Mikel who is the most experienced hence the need to remove either Joel or Onazi.

Surprisingly, he removed both and brought in another CMF maybe to see the Etebo because I don't think if any of those players stay the game will bad.

The problem was the right side of our team.

And since Shehu lacks pace, he needed someone with speed that could at the same time support the attack midfield and defence. Who else but Ebuehi could do that?

Ebuehi and Brian joining the midfield and defending with quick recovery stabilized our game.

The English realised and brought in fresh players to disrupt our wings with pace since that is their own strength but by the time dey do that we already strengthened our wings.

The only problem now is the forward didn't gel.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:07pm On Jun 02, 2018
KK555:
You can't blame the goal keeper for every goal. Do you know how wide that post is? Factor that when you criticise him, Hve you ever played football in a standard football field?

Where was Kane when he took that shot...Distance? acceleration and speed of ball, Goal keeper's reaction...Uzoho actually reacted well. If Kane was about 3 metres away befoe he took that, Uzoho might have stopped it. What were his defenders doing? How did Kane get into that position to pull the trigger?

How many times did Nigeria get into such position against England? How many times did Nigeria hit target?

Blame the team not the keeper.
I never thought that goal will enter.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:05pm On Jun 02, 2018
People are just shouting Onazi no good.. Joel no good like say na only dem go play ball.

The problem was Shehu could not deal with the pacy English forwards and Iwobi didn’t help to defend.

This is because Mikel lost the ball on many occasions and whenever he does that, he added more pressure to the midfield because the wingers which were also part of the midfield had already rushed forward to receive passes when he lost the ball.

This exposed the wing backs and brought confusing to the midfield because when the English won the ball they spread the balls immediately to the wings which stretched our two man midfield.

Remember, Iwobi and Victor are still trying to recover their positions and Mikel is slow to recover too when they began the transition.

These two players played the DMF role and all they need to do was protect back line and find Mikel or the wingers as soon as they get the ball but unfortunately Mikel loosed the ball several times.

Mikel was the biggest culprit in the midfield. He unstabled the team.

Anyway, Shehu has been exposed as a weakling.

Iwobi best position is the AMF but no substitute
.
Ebuehi and Brian are better as wing backs.

Ogu can play in a 3 mans defence but somehow we were still exposed from his wing.

Etebo na NEPA. Off and on. Today was his on day

Ahmed has pace but nobody to support him.

We don't have many forward options.

Anyway, with what I see, we go win Iceland. Croatia can be won too but we must play 3-5-2 formation.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:20pm On Jun 02, 2018
Goke7:
this is where moses simon will be missed
I mean in the AMF role.

I hope Iwobi no get injury ooooooo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:16pm On Jun 02, 2018
andrew444:
Lol onazi the gala seller.....Smh for you for not noticing the worst player today on pitch,no accurate pass by onazi running like a headless chicken.

You should be dissapointed by onazi just the way i am
We no get the same eyes and ball sense. Food for thought.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:05pm On Jun 02, 2018
Na so we go dey play till game finish?

Make coach change players wey don tire na.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:01pm On Jun 02, 2018
This is what I am talking about. Who will now replace tired Iwobi or Mikel?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:58pm On Jun 02, 2018
Bolowolowo:
Nacho is coming on. It has been proven. Igahlo cannot start a match. I have lost all faith in him. China is not doing wonders.
Forget! Ighalo was the cause of that goal.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:55pm On Jun 02, 2018
Shukusheka:
It is exactly what you are seeing.
Simy isn't quite a mobile striker, in a 3-5-2, you need one of the strikers mobile enough to drift anywhere across the wings or central just behind the main striker.
You are right. Thanks
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:53pm On Jun 02, 2018
andrew444:
What of onazi bros?
Onazi is important.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:36pm On Jun 02, 2018
It seems we are playing Ogu as a defender in a 3 mans defence. shocked shocked

I am not sure it is what I am seeing.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:30pm On Jun 02, 2018
I said Iwobi should play the AMF, Ebuehi should replace Shehu, Mikel should replace Joel, Etebo replaces Iwobi on the wing and see as game change! grin

The only difference is Omeruo. Hahahaha! grin

Hahahahahah!

People no know players wey dem get and dey are not true fans.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:23pm On Jun 02, 2018
Ogu for Joel

Goal Iwobi

Cool down guys cool down guys.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:23pm On Jun 02, 2018
Ogu for Joel

Goal
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:20pm On Jun 02, 2018
Etebo, Ebuehi, Ogu, and Omeruo in.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:16pm On Jun 02, 2018
Take it easy guys. Match never finish. Let us see if change of players will improve the team.

I am really impressed with Brian at the LB back.

We should just bring in substitutes.

Mikel Obi should take the place of Joel Obi, Iwobi should move into Mikel's position then Etebo replaces Iwobi on the wing.

Then Ebuehi for Shehu. Let us see what will happen.

If it doesn't work, then we commot Ighalo and bring in Kelechi then revert to 3-4-3 formation.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:02pm On Jun 02, 2018
see as Dele take pass ball through Troost-Ekong toros. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:58pm On Jun 02, 2018
This is no longer funny.

2 : 0

Na wa ooooooo.

Very boring first half.

Rohr should not some players to enter second half.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:53pm On Jun 02, 2018
Rohr should just forget about Shehu and Iwobi on the same wing. It's not working.

That place is exposed seriously.

He should bring Ebuehi in, abeg.

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