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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
isan:
Not really if he doesn't make it we will have like five or six foreign born players
I meant the English breed players.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:57pm On Jun 01, 2018
This coach is fooling himself. Is he serious?

Which team doesn't have team spirit? Does he thinks other teams don't have the mix of team spirit and world class players? He is fooling the gullibles not me.

No wonder!

The bolded suggested that somebody is here watching.

I don't believe that statement. it's false.

Rohr Explains Why Super Eagles Don't Need A Mohamed Salah In The Squad

Published: June 01, 2018

Manager Gernot Rohr has said that the Super Eagles don't need a Mohamed Salah before they perform well at the 2018 World Cup and has stressed that the unity in the team has been key to their success.

The former Bayern Munich defender has repeatedly stated that there are no marquee players that can single-handedly determine the outcome of matches and they will have to play as a unit if they are qualify for the second round of the World Cup.

''I think it's fantastic for Egypt to have such a player, just as Argentina have (Lionel) Messi or Croatia have Luka Modric,'' Rohr told Deutsche Welle.

''But we have a good team spirit instead. It is not the individual quality, even if that quality is huge, that will make the difference, but the best team spirit. This is more important than having one Mohamed Salah.''

More than ninety five percent of the players named in the updated preliminary World Cup roster represent foreign clubs and are from different tribes and Rohr has insisted that it is not difficult to create a good team spirit.

''I don’t need to create that. We already have a good team spirit because everybody is happy to come and to play for Nigeria and to represent the green and white colors.

''And on the field we keep it simple. There's usually not much time for preparation so I use simple tactics that all the players can understand no matter which club they play for,'' he added.

The Super Eagles will gain a lot of confidence ahead of the World Cup if they beat England in tomorrow's friendly after wins against Poland and Argentina in friendlies.

Igho Kingsley

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=27984
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:44pm On Jun 01, 2018
Moses Simon Leaves Super Eagles World Cup Camp, Scan Confirms He's Out For 3 Weeks

Published: June 01, 2018

Moses Simon has been finally axed from Nigeria's preliminary World Cup squad after scans conducted in London confirmed that he will be out of action for three weeks.

The Gent winger was at the Hive Stadium on Thursday and underwent a series of scans as his international teammates were sweating it out in their penultimate workout before the friendly against England.

''Simon is finally out of the 2018 World Cup and he is unhappy that he won't be traveling to Russia with the Super Eagles squad,'' a Nigerian Federation insider told allnigeriasoccer.com.

''The scan performed on Thursday confirmed he will be out for three weeks. Simon just left the Super Eagles hotel and said he is going to Belgium.''

There are presently 25 players with the national team in London and coach Gernot Rohr must drop two more players by June 4, 2018.

The Super Eagles will leave their hotel for the Wembley Stadium at 1645 hours for their final workout before the friendly against the Three Lions.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=27982
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:36pm On Jun 01, 2018
Croatia Scout: Rohr Has Doubts About Super Eagles GKs & Fullbacks

Published: June 01, 2018

Croatia National Team scout Ognjen Vukojević has revealed that Super Eagles boss Gernot Rohr has doubts about his goalkeepers and fullbacks ahead of the 2018 World Cup.

Everyone can predict that the likes of Troost-Ekong, Leon Balogun, Obi Mikel, Victor Moses, Odion Ighalo, Alex Iwobi and Eddy Onazi are the likely starters against Croatia on June 16 but there is uncertainty regarding the fullback positions and the goalkeeper, though Francis Uzoho looks to be ahead in the pecking order.

''It is visible that Rohr has several other dilemmas, that he is not sure who will be his goalkeeper, who will play on the two sides positions,'' Vukojević told Sportske Novosti.

''But I will not get into deeper analysis. We will of course now everything there is to know about Nigeria. Firstly, I will tell everything to our coach. He will have all the information.''

Abdullahi Shehu, Tyronne Ebuehi, Ola Aina and even Kenneth Omeruo are competing for the Super Eagles right-back spot, while Elderson Echiejile, Brian Idowu and the former England U19 skipper have been deployed at left-back in recent training sessions.

Rohr must announce his final roster for the World Cup by June 4, 2018.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=27977
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:25pm On Jun 01, 2018
Super Eagles Training: Rohr Continues To Test Out Five-Man Midfield Variation; Aina Involved

Published: May 31, 2018

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr has continued to test out a five-man midfield variation at training ahead of Saturday's friendly against England, and this might be his preferred formation at the 2018 World Cup.

He divided the squad into two teams containing eleven players each for a training game after the warmup and physical exercises.

Team A lined up with a 4-2-3-1 formation and contained holding midfielders Eddy Onazi and Joel Obi, just as they were deployed in Monday's friendly against Democratic Republic of Congo, Obi Mikel played as the central attacking midfielder and was flanked by Victor Moses (right midfield) and Alex Iwobi (left midfield).

As for the Team B, they took on the 3-5-2 shape with Elderson Echiejile and Tyronne Ebuehi operating as left wing-back and right wing-back respectively.

Leicester City pair Kelechi Iheanacho and Ahmed Musa, and Porto's Mikel Agu completed the five-man midfield.

Chelsea defender Ola Aina took part in the exercises and ball work but was on the sidelines at the start of the practice game before he came on for Team B as replacement for Echiejile.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:15pm On Jun 01, 2018
isan:
Lol cheesy well if he didn't not play tomorrow then he will be dropped
grin

But it will be good he makes the team to lure FB players. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:58pm On Jun 01, 2018
isan:
Aina and iwobi dancing shaku shaku
When dem drop am wetin em go dance? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:50pm On Jun 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Hey guys, while some unknown mofos are here trynna talk down on our up and coming stars, read what dedicated young hope "Tosin Kehinde" has to say about the Super Eagles next generation of stars, especially, KC Nwakali ;



Exclusive: Tosin Kehinde – Next Generation Of Super Eagles Exciting

Posted By: soccerass on: June 01, 2018In: The DugoutNo Comments
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Nigeria’s Super Eagles are set for their sixth appearance at the world cup tournament and many are filled with contained options.

The general consensus is while the current setup is not as complete as the legendary 94/96 set, they are still loaded with a truckload of talented individuals and coupled with the resolute efficiency their German tactician Gernot Rohr brings they should be capable of ruffling more than a few feathers in Russia.

One person who shares this belief is Manchester Uniteds Nigerian wonder-kid Tosin Kehinde who himself recently declared his readiness to don the nations green white green.

The 19 year old Lagos born Tosin who admires the unbridled skill of the legendary Jay Jay Okocha is convinced the current squad are going to cause more than a few upsets in Russia.

“Of course we can make an Impact at the world cup” Tosin told Soccer Assembly
“We have a tricky group but we should make it out…. from there we have to stay solid in the back and work our way up the field with confidence.”
“We have players that are good on the ball that can do that”.

“When the opportunity comes we have to be clinical… once we earn our respect and a good reputation early on in the competition, we have a good shot to do something special!”

However while he admires the current squad, Tosin who says he is already ready for National team duties see the upcoming generation of which he is a part of as equally as talented and exciting .

“The next generation of players coming through are really exciting! Really exciting times !” Tosin told Soccer Assembly after Nigeria’s exhibition game against Europa league Champions Atletico Madrid in which Arsenal Youngster Kelechi Nwakali scored a sensational goal

“Kelechi is a beast” Tosin said of Nwakalis goal with unhidden admiration, “Amazing! His technique and range is simply amazing”
“Ebere Eze is another young Nigerian player with so much promise. He has very good feet and can do amazing things with the ball”.

QPR’s Eze also looks set for a role with the Super Eagles in the near future and trained with the team in London back in March
Surely a team with him, Nwakali, Kehinde and the many other youngsters is a tantalizing prospect to envisaged.

Tosin has had an excellent season with Manchester Uniteds U23s and while he may not have closed particularly too well no thanks to injuries he has been severally tipped to be a first teamer come next season.

Barring any last minute hitches this future Eagles star will be at Wembley taking notes from the present with an eye on the future . . . . .



To agent Southgate and Saint Forgiveness can u guys see how a true Nigeria should speak of his team even though he resides overseas? The same Nwakali who you two were/are bickering over his invitation is being exalted here by one who plays and understands the game, that goes to show you two that what u feel or think about "the beast" like Kehinde put it, is inconsequential
Nwakali is a good player but he doesn't deserves to be on the 35 man list. I hope you get the gist.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:40pm On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:
Yes I have memory of the games they featured in but that post by you doesn't capture things like number of dribbles, crosses, assists etc
The starter talk is what that stats debunked.

If you look at the 1. It is goal and assist.

Iwobi 2 goals. Moses 2 goals and 1 assist.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:55pm On Jun 01, 2018
Mujtahida:
Nobody runs away from this fact. It's a mute point. We are looking at effectiveness and the best position for him not whether he starts or not. Iwobi starting or not starting is not an issue for me particularly now that S. Moses is probably out of contention. The quality of his play is my concern. Till date you've not convinced me that Iwobi is effective on the wings. You just keep saying he is a starter. Starting is not gold. Effectiveness is. His career prospects, our WC prospects hinges not on whether he starts but on his effectiveness. No coach ever buys a player because he is a starter. Effectiveness is the premium quality coaches look for.

Once again proof to us that Iwobi is effective from the wings.
These are Iwobi and Simon's stats during the WC qualifiers.

Decipher

1. Iwobi
2. Simon

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:45pm On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
Etebo was a left winger for Warri Wolves ? I have to check that.

Clubs will not take players who are bent on playing only their natural roles. Which is why you see players who would say they are willing to play any role to help the team. It’s all about the teams needs at every giving point in time.
Yes!

Infact, he was the second highest goalscorer at one time in the NPFL.

He's a forward player and not a defensive minded player.

I will rather drop a midfielder to accommodate Etebo because of Simon's fitness.

Sometimes if goal craze enter em head, he can perform wonders.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:40pm On Jun 01, 2018
Martz101:
oga that's where he plays for his club
Do you understand the word mostly?

He started playing regularly in the La Liga.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:35pm On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:
Getting into European youth academy football is easier for a Nigerian youth international than an innit boy. You made the proposition that it's much harder for boys coming from Nigeria to get into football than boys here.

The branding of Nigerian youth international will open doors for you in Europe unlike Nigeria origin players coming from local clubs in England.

The case of Ademola Lookman comes to mind from Sunday football to EPL player within 3 years. Invited by Nigerian age grade but not followed through. England then got him.

Who do you then blamehuh


It's bigotry to create division in the negative between what you define as Nigerian. You dismissed by substance and intent by excluding Nigerian origin players as being not Nigerian.


The same rhetoric is behind tribalism and racism.

That's why I termed it bigotry. Do you understand my position now.

I've known Tega since he was 15 at Tottenham and he had to prove himself over many years. The same goes for Ovie who left Arsenal for Liverpool, Seyi was different he came to Liverpool at 14 with a £1.8 million price tag. Last season Newcastle put in a bid for £10 million Liverpool refused.

Nwakali is not an expensive investment for Arsenal it's a speculative one. He has been sent out on loan to prove his potential, sadly nonymous in the much lower Dutch leagues. That essentially means he has not justified the investment. When a player goes on loan if he performs his value and rating go up if he does not they go down.


Consider Tega Abrahams I've known him for quite a long time too. One season in the Championship and his value sky rocketed. Easy access to the EPL now he is wanted by several EPL clubs even after the relegation of Swansea.

How many Eredivisie clubs tried to buy Nwakali question ❓how many asked for a loan move ❓ Almost none whyhuh Is Rohr and the NFF the only ones that can see his esteemed talent. Na only dem get � eye.

I refer you to a previous post where I gave countless examples of former youth players that cost huge money now playing non league in England.

Considering all these variables do you still hand on heart ♥ honestly think that we are talking about Exceptional Talenthuh For a 20 year old player.

In reality if Nwakali had been outstanding in the Eredivisie, became the stand out player. It would be possible using exceptional talent proviso to get a work permit for him. He would then be playing for Arsenal or some other top club. But as it stands the possibility of him ever playing for Arsenal is near impossible.

The only way his career can progress is on the back of national team selection.
I hope he understands that bolded and stop the stereotype mentality.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:22pm On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:
One question ❓ How many of the so called innit boys have you spoken too . By the way I am not an agent.

You have EVADED the substance of this discourse which is not Nwakali but a system that enthrones subjective favouritism over objective measured substantiated quality consistent continous outstanding performance.

Your response is garnished with your prejudice over the divide you create with what you define as Nigerians.

You may find it hard to believe, but it's actually easier for a Nigerian national youth team player to get in than an innit boy as you put it.

Your prejudiced sentiment is underpinned with lack of knowledge bigotry, very sad indeed.
Very Sad.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:14pm On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
Like I don’t know. Stats is not everything. It MAY have worked for his clubs because of the chemistry in the team. Which player in the SE right now can pull a cross from the left. Victor Moses a true winger because he can do almost anything from there. Cut in, he can. Dribble he can. Crosses he can. I don’t care who we deploy as a left winger as long as we have someone who can deliver that cross when it is most needed.
That one moment could be the match decider.

Modified
I meant victor Moses from the RW
That was were he played mostly in the Nigerian league before he left for Europe.

Rohr just gather players without considering their natural role.

He is a makeshift CMF or AMF in the National team.

Let see how things go this friendly. Maybe we can have a clue of what is on Rohr's mind.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:01pm On Jun 01, 2018
Joebie:
Pseudo-wingers. Doesn’t mean they can’t operate there. But their abilities THERE are limited.
He played on the wings for his club for many years. He's a winger.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:54pm On Jun 01, 2018
asha80:
etebo is a winger?
Yes.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:52pm On Jun 01, 2018
eterisan:
they all have better careers right now. Sorry if calling ajagun old and washed up offends you. Again ajagun over nwakali for u23. That makes sense to you Àbí. Cos as far as I know nwakali is been prepared for u23.

Nwakali's career projection is up. You can project ajagun's and aluko's for us. So it is making it into an imaginary 35 man list based on hearsay naim de pain you like this. OK o. Continue.

Nwakali will be invited for the u23 and post Russia over ajagun and aluko, every day. Only ebere will be invited alongside cos he is also the future. Take that to the bank.

BTW I just wish ajagun will be called up for once just like kayode so we go rest for your hand. The question now is ajagun over who in the super eagles?

I am not an agent like you and komekn, so you guys are just doing your job. Have a good day.
This is about the 35 man list for the 2018 WORLD CUP. Rohr confirmed there was a 35 man list.

Therefore, the 35 man list is not meant for U23 players. Stop deceiving yourself.

You have shown your stereotype mentality against Ajagun by calling him a old washed up player without backing up your claims with facts.

It's the name you have problem with and not the ability and the progess of the player because if it's about the ability and performance of a player over the years, you will not call a player who has done better than Agu and Ogu in regards to club football this season.

Going by the two faced double standard fellow's logic, Abdul Ajagun performed better in a more highly rated league than both Ogu and Agu this season and he is the only consistent AMF Nigerian player in the top 10 European league. I mean he played and performed in the AMF role well this season.

Was that not the league Ndidi was called to the national team despite been a bench warmer before he went ahead to do well?

What did Agu do this season in Turkey? I don't even have problem with him.

As it stands, Agu and Ogu don't have a better career than Abdul Ajagun who performed in a better league (Belgium pro league) than these two players in Turkish and Isreali league.

What I deduced from you is, you have a stereotype mentality against names like Ajagun and Aluko else you would have backed up your argument with facts.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:55am On Jun 01, 2018
Certitude:
Na only you and your brother komekn dey rank league. The rest of us ni send league.
shocked shocked shocked Who were those that told us why Simy made the team ahead of consistent Kayode because he performed in Serie A while the later performed in obscure league? grin

Renter ghost!? grin

Speak for yaself or dey deceive yaself.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:52am On Jun 01, 2018
If Simon is declared unfit. Who will play the wings if Etebo is dropped?


Iwobi and Victor Moses.

If one is ineligible to play a match, who will deputy for the ones playing? grin

Na wa ooooooo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:49am On Jun 01, 2018
KK50:
I am impressed with the first two pictures of your amateur goalies feeling like predators. Amazing photography i must confess but it should be captioned.

'Majestic Eagles in training but Miserable Chickens in matches'.
Hahahahahaha! Very funny dude. grin

We are all in the same boat now.

Hope the coach picks the best.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:43am On Jun 01, 2018
AbuMikey:
you are not even serious, this man.
Really?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:34am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:
I think Ogu might be dropped. It looks like Joel Obi is the preferred choice in the absence of Ndidi. That means that the last midfield slot goes to Agu or Ogu.
Joel Obi is a top quality no doubt and if we go by the theory of the two faced double standard fellows, Ogu should be dropped because he is playing in an obsure league lower than Seria A. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:30am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:
All of them are far higher in rating and ability than Nwakali, by the way i have talked to all of them and the willingness to play for Nigeria is not in question but our approach is.

I could bring in a lot more but just those for now, but that's not my focus but rather the system of selection that enthrones subjective favoritism over objective proven performance.

In reality Tega, Sei and Ovie are way far ahead they are not just future prospects but current top performers, they have all played a few games for their parent teams in the EPL a feat that is very far away if not near impossible for Nwakali in Arsenal as it stands.

The Eredivisie is rated 14th in Europe by UEFA it would therefore not be without credence to rate the Eerste Divisie as way below the Championship more on par with National conference and or league 2.

In reality we can look at players in the lower leagues to make comparison who i consider much better.

Eberechi Eze - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5662421/QPR-striker-Eberechi-Eze-worth-keeping-eye-spring-life-instant.html


The issue is not future prospects that is for the U17 at age 20 you are not proving prospects you are showing it
, something Nwakali has failed to do at club level. Dismissing Aluko is to miss the point we are looking at players irrespective of age who can be prospective players for the SE that can bring quality. In this regard is Nwakali currently better than Hope Akpan ? he is playing at far higher level and getting recognition No he is not.

Our quality bar has dropped and so we can now look at outstanding talents in lower leagues because we have limited quality players as it stands.

Finally , you call Nwakali best future prospect , but you base it on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING just sentiment, state his stats, present continuous that make him a future prospect.

In my last two posts i gave you countless examples of supposed future prospects in English football that TOTALLY FLOPPED, that cost way more money than Nwakali, you have chosen to completely ignore these substantiated facts. Instead you are making irreverent comments without substance, just sentiment to buttress your position.

Why not humble yourself and learn and become enlightened.
SIMPLE AND SHORT. GBAM
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:27am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:
There are only two moi moi players in that list that did not deserve call up.

Efe and Opabunmi.

Everyone else was playing either top leagues level ot close to it. Meanwhile this was a time when Dutch football was among the top elite of European football.
You dey mind the guy?

He lies too much. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:25am On Jun 01, 2018
eterisan:
chaiiii...... Finally..... Phew..... It took a lot to get this out of you....

Ovie plays for England youth team.... Ruled out.
Same as tega...... And ojo..... All ruled out for now... They cannot be invited at this moment...they are not interested in us sef o.. And they even play for lower division teams o.

Nawa for you o bros. Small time u go tell us say their league rate pass Holland division 2 . We agree.... So them be special talent too....

Finally... We dr end up with aluko and ajagun..... So you and forgiveness nor de tire....

How is aluko competing with nwakali.... Is he a future prospect.... Aluko is competing with Mikel, ogu, and Joel or even Agu.... Currently he is not part of the team so how do you expect him to be in the world cup...... Besides what special thing has he done this season to warrant a call ahead of established team members.....

Do you now see that your argument is flawed. You criticism of nwakali has no basis cos simply there is no future prospect better and available right now... Gerrit

BTW nor de call yourself made in Warri cos you have no idea what it means.... Abeg.... We fit liv one or two for ur sclero.... Jus kponkpi.....
The world cup is not for prospect, rather it is for the best players in each country to showcases who has the best team and players in the world hence the reason prospect players are inconsequential to this discus. Thanks

Besides, when Sone was a prospect nominated for awards, how many chances was he given?

When he was nominated for the best player in the Championship or whatever, was he consider for a mere friendly?

Food for thought.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:19am On Jun 01, 2018
daveP:
i do wish to see a 442 formation at one point in either of the two friendlies.


Why?
When last did we score from cross and nod? Shivering.


Yeah times have changed, but imagine the thrill of getting that right!!
We are used to 4-4-1-1.

Let see who will play the wings and Rohr's tactics.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:15am On Jun 01, 2018
tbaba1234:
Fading players... Taribo was no longer the same, babayaro was not the same, Adepoju was not the same. It was a fading team. After 2002, how many more games did these players play? The present team has up and coming players, youthful enthusiasm. The winner of such a match is not a foregone conclusion.

The 2002 WC team was more dependent on Okocha because we left out some big names than our present team is dependent on Mikel.
Nigeria


No. Pos. Player Date of birth (age) Caps Club
1 GK Ike Shorunmu 16 October 1967 (aged 34) 34 Switzerland Lucerne
2 DF Joseph Yobo 6 September 1980 (aged 21) 14 France Marseille
3 DF Celestine Babayaro 29 August 1978 (aged 23) 24 England Chelsea
4 FW Nwankwo Kanu 1 August 1976 (aged 25) 33 England Arsenal
5 DF Isaac Okoronkwo 1 May 1978 (aged 24) 12 Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk
6 DF Taribo West 26 March 1974 (aged 28) 38 Germany 1. FC Kaiserslautern
7 MF Pius Ikedia 11 July 1980 (aged 21) 9 Netherlands Ajax
8 MF Mutiu Adepoju 22 December 1970 (aged 31) 49 Spain Salamanca
9 FW Bartholomew Ogbeche 1 October 1984 (aged 17) 4 France Paris Saint-Germain
10 MF Jay-Jay Okocha (c) 14 August 1973 (aged 28) 56 France Paris Saint-Germain
11 MF Garba Lawal 22 May 1974 (aged 28) 34 Netherlands Roda JC
12 GK Austin Ejide 8 April 1984 (aged 18) 3 Nigeria Gabros International
13 DF Rabiu Afolabi 18 April 1980 (aged 22) 5 Belgium Standard Liège
14 DF Ifeanyi Udeze 21 July 1980 (aged 21) 15 Greece PAOK
15 MF Justice Christopher 24 December 1981 (aged 20) 7 Belgium Royal Antwerp
16 DF Efe Sodje 5 October 1972 (aged 29) 7 England Crewe Alexandra
17 FW Julius Aghahowa 12 February 1982 (aged 20) 17 Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk
18 FW Benedict Akwuegbu 3 November 1974 (aged 27) 16 China Shenyang Haishi
19 DF Eric Ejiofor 21 July 1979 (aged 22) 12 Israel Maccabi Haifa
20 MF James Obiorah 24 August 1978 (aged 23) 2 Russia Lokomotiv Moscow
21 MF John Utaka 8 January 1982 (aged 20) 4 Qatar Al-Sadd
22 GK Vincent Enyeama 29 August 1982 (aged 19) 2 Nigeria Enyimba
23 MF Femi Opabunmi 3 March 1985 (aged 17) 2 Nigeria Ibadan
Sweden


Looking at this team, How many are fading players?

How many up and coming players did you count on that list that turned out be the bomb in their clubs and National team?

How many big names did you see on that list?

You mean Kanu is no longer a legend? grin

Do you mean Celestine Babayaro who played 28 matches in all competition including Europe should have been droped because he was fading?

My friend, you are not being truthful with the truth.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:42am On Jun 01, 2018
pelezico:
If Nigeria play like they played during the qualifiers then England will be beaten. England is not a good side at all - ive watched there qualifying games and they were atrocious. Nigeria can beat them and that includes Croatia, Iceland (Iceland I suspect will be tough for all the teams - you watch) and Argentina ( they have big problems - did you see them against Haiti - terrible)

Nigeria will dictate the game - watch and see
This current English team do not keep possession as much. They rely on counter attacks.

Don't be deceived.

It a very good test to prepare for Iceland match. They play with similarity but England has better talents which can make a difference.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:37am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:
He is in the Eerste Divisie the second tier of Dutch football. The Dutch Eredivisie league is rated 14 in Europe much below the Austrian, Swiss and Turkish leagues.

We are also talking about 2nd tier, Kluivert a clear and identified special talent plays in the Eredivisie for Ajax.

So do you think that it's in The Eerste Divisie that a special talent should be playing in. If he was special playing in a moi moi league and club by now he should have scored goals in double figures, have multiple MOTM awards and be the outstanding stand out player in that league.


Considering your stance how many goals MOTM awardshuh How many clubs are clamouring to sign him. I recall Pogba left Manchester United U21 straight into Juventus first team at 20, I wonder WHY ❓ ❓

This is not about Nwakali per se but the system that selects players for national team selection based on past glories or assumed potential without any underpinning based on performance.
EXACTLY
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:33am On Jun 01, 2018
komekn:
What makes you a special talent is when you currently, consistently perform with that special talent year in and year out with commensurate upwards progression.

You certainly do not rely on past glories or using the national team set up to market your failing career.

I'll give you an example Dembele noticed him at 16 2012 at Fulham thay bought him from PSG he simply kept progressing.At 18 he was the top striker with the highest goal tally in all youth leagues. January last year Chelsea bid stupid money for him Celtic refused.

Dele Alli
Gomez
Raheem
Rashford
Lukaku
Pogba
Dembele
Mbappe
Ssegnon

All these players were considered special talents very early on even at the age of 9 years old and they kept progressing. They didn't have to play for obscure clubs or leagues. Thier outstanding talent kept pushing them forward not backwards. Where are they now huh Bible says " A man's gift will make way for him and cause him to stand before Kings" paraphrase.

The only person calling these guys special talent is you and the esteemed all-knowing coaching crew or the NFF. Nobody else of substance is, don't you think it's food for thought to reconsider your opinion based on anothers opinion.

Dont you think ❓ ❓ Nwokem

Look at Seyi Ojo bought for £1.8 million at the age of 14. Just turned 21 now and although doing ok i would not call him special talent anymore.

I could talk about Dan Tricket Smith considered special talent by Liverpool they paid near £350k for him at age 16, he was released in 2016, he is now within 1 year playing NON LEAGUE.

John Cofie was a team mate of Pogba when they won the youth cup. He was bought from Burnley at the age of 14 for £1 million by Man United. The accolades that followed him where crazy the next Drogba, etc, etc. He was released by United in 2013 before he was 21. He dropped so low that he began playing non league he is only 24 now.

Youthful exceptional talent has a sell by date after that it has expired if it has not been proven on the professional field of play.

I can count hundreds if not thousands of players that had Way more accolades that Nwakali and cost a lot more £££ than he did. I know players brought from Canada France etc within one year or two dropped. Some allowed to stay in the U23 and stagnate with dust. When time reach you are sweepf out and forgotten.

Meanwhile the esteemed all-knowing coaching crew of the NFF is still looking at past glories.

In football what you need is opportunity to show your talent but opportunity should be deserved not awarded by favour.

When I look at the number of skilful talented boys of African Nigerian origin that play in non league and lower leagues you guys would be gob smacked. But they never got opportunity. Why that's a long story and corruption is intrinsically linked in with it.
You have spoken well but you got the wrong person. He will not understand simple fact because his heart is full of corruption.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:29am On Jun 01, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Only Kane is world class
You are right but are the others average players?

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