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Icon4s:
I am not concerned about your views about Kayode and Nwakali because I can't recall any. Several people have shared their views on it here.

But I will advice you again to return to your analysis and quit being an advocate.

Let him share his views too and stop cheap blackmail of calling him advocate.

Very predictable fellow.

safarigirl:
EXACTLY!

Different coaches have reasons for picking and/or dropping players, some of them are not for footballing reasons, but it is the coach's choice.

Why are you not accusing Sampaoli and Martinez of neptism and corruption?
nepotism

Goodjoe said coaches have different yardsticks and you were asking if it is Nigerian coaches. ALL coaches have different yardsticks.

They are HUMAN and just like every human being, some of their choices will be based on how they FEEL.


You and your supporters should stop coming to this thread and acting all sanctimonious as if your own lists would have been devoid of sentiments. If we allowed you guys draft a team list, I bet your teams would not have even qualified for the world cup going by the names you reel out here.


Not everything is about club form and game time, football is not one plus one. The sooner you realise that, the better for this thread

The trend continues. Once is ok. Twice we can understand. Everytime, it's no longer making sense. I say then trend continues.

realpoacher:
I was waiting for this

Look at the following screenshots

1. Kayode total league goals over the total span of his career plus national team

2. Kayode total goals including league goals and cup gmaes

Vs

Picture 3. With Simy stats

90% of Simy's goals were scored in the second division. Sorry.

Mujtahida:
hahahaha sir icon4s why do we read so superficially. i am not his attorney. supernerd has done what i have said should be done. if you cannot answer the young man shun his post but if you want to answer him then do with facts. i consider it low of you to join the bandwagon of those who see the position i have taken as a support of forgiveness. soon una go say forgiveness, me and komekn na same person.

i am not surprised though. there was a time somebody said he doesnt want obafemi martins because he plays in china. i said but ighalo and martins play in china naw(meaning to show the person thst the basis for his assertion is faulty). next thing i was called a martins supporter. you should go deeper than the superficialities that prevails here.


one person says that 35 man list containing nwakali's name is sign of corruption. another person says you are neoptistic thats why yousee nepotism everywhere. i say bro, counter his charge of nepotism not just accuse him of nepotism. counter his interpretation of the facts with your own facts. realpoacher did it,supernerd did it. but its now easy to say i am forgiveness' attorney because he is the designated black sheep bof the thread. you know what? if you say so i agree i am his attorney.na my work (in real life we even defend as a matter of obligation thieves and scoundrels and knaves abi you no dey see criminals with lawyers for court?)

as a measure of my support for forgiveness please tell me what i think about the nwakali being in the 35 man list and about the exclusipn of kayode. shebi those are the things you guys berate forgiveness for. tell me what are my views on this two players

Bros, you are right on point. GBAM

Icon4s:
I thought he has become your new mentor? And you have become his new attorney.

I have asked you once if you hacked into the very resourceful Mujtahida's account that we once knew.

I am asking again.

Nonsense.

safarigirl:
the Niangollan that was dropped from Belgium, was he not one of their best players for the season?

Icardi that was Series A's top scorer was equally dropped by Argentina and heaven did not fall.


Why the phuck are you stinking up this thread with stale arguments about your mediocre Kayode that has, truly, not even measured up to Uzoenyi's standard in the National team?

You are such a troll!

Bhuuuhahaha! Bhuuuhahaha! Bhuuuhahaha!

No comment.

safarigirl:
the Niangollan that was dropped from Belgium, was he not one of their best players for the season?

Icardi that was Series A's top scorer was equally dropped by Argentina and heaven did not fall.


Why the phuck are you stinking up this thread with stale arguments about your mediocre Kayode that has, truly, not even measured up to Uzoenyi's standard in the National team?

You are such a troll!

Tell us why those where dropped?

We all know it has nothing to with footballing reasoning.

Continue to support mediocre. You go meet am for front.

komekn:
How do you know better players with better club statistics could not have done better

This sentimental selection based on past youthful glories not present continous consistent performances in thier respective clubs can easily be used for favoritism.

The biggest word in football is OPPORTUNITY without it we will never know what a player can do.

That's why it is essential that the most deserving players get the OPPORTUNITY not the most connected.

GBAM!

komekn:
Is selection based on the sole subjective personal led judgement of one individual

What happened to a selection criteria and objectivity based on quantifiable measurement ❓

I tire ooooooo.

Joebie:
Now agents must be happy their players at least made the 35 man list that was never released. Will they ask for a refund?

Sir there is a problem, but you are making it bigger than it really is.

Let me not assume the above. I would like to know what you really think happened.

I want to know how manage Nwakali made the 35 man list at the detriment of players that performed better than him this season?

I don't know if that your question is the answer. Is it?

TheGoodJoe:
You are using your yardstick to make the final selection. The coaches have theirs. So you best Performers might not be a perfect fit for what the coaches what to use.

Do you mean only the coaches in Nigeria have a different yardstick?

What a country?

TheGoodJoe:

You asked about Eredivisie and I gave you your required answer.

Oga! You must do well in the club before you get a call. That has been the norms in a decent World. This one na wuru wuru way.

TheGoodJoe:
Your problem is that you guage success of players with the successes of others. Osimhen and K. Nwakali being identified special talents does not close the door on any young man fighting. Players just need to keep working hard and praying.

Gerrit?

What is that your Prayer point?

Keep praying the hard working useless ones, these ones are special talents though they did nothing to be chosen.

One day you shall get a call. Preposterous

TheGoodJoe:

Arteta was special and did not play for Spain or England. That does not mean he was not a good talent or capable of supporting these teams. It happens.

Not everyone will get picked. Those that want the opportunities should keep working hard and praying.

Exactly! Not everyone will get picked but atleast the best performing players are picked ahead of the ones not doing well. Where

TheGoodJoe:
You asked about the Eredivisie and K. Nwakali not performing there. Or is Eredivisie not club football again?

Your performance in club get you noticed for a national team call.

You can flop in a club and still go to another club. That is club football.

TheGoodJoe:
K. Nwakali has been identified as a special talent long before today. As far back as 2012/2013. This is Five to six years later. The coaching crew giving him support is commendable. It does not run down other players but encourages them to keep working hard to take their opportunities when they get their chances.

Oh! I see. Osimhen special talent, Nwakali special talent, dis and dat special talent.

So, all their mates are identify useless talents.

It's running them down like mad. Put yourself in their shoes.

Imagine you kid and put him in their shoes and tell us how it feels being neglected despite hard work.

Oga, the fact that you think I only rubbish players not Yorubas (which is never true) gives an impression I am speaking with biased mind. So Sorry to say this.

TheGoodJoe:
There are limited chances, so there will always be a norm for quality Potentials getting left out. The Dessers crew are not waging war against injustice. We pray for those who can help the team grow to get their chances.

Ok, we should pray for the useless not special talent working hard to make the national team until dey grow grew hair, at the detriment of 'special talents' struggling in Europe?

Is it until dey grow grew hair?

That's a good player point. Good one.

TheGoodJoe:
It is football. Forlan flopped at Manchester United and became the highest goal scorer in Europe playing for Villareal. Theirry Henry flopped at Juventus and later became one of the best strikers in the history of the game playing for Arsenal and Barcelona.

That's club football, not the National team.

Is there any problem bringing players that did well in Europe to the national team?

Is it a taboo?

TheGoodJoe:
No one said anyone is useless. As I said, they are all family. Brothers with green white green blood flowing through their veins. If the coach Identified K. Nwakali to work with him, it is a good thing and deserves accolades. However, we should hope we have more special talents to grow with the team.

That is why I and members of this thread have been vociferous about the different grades of the Super Eagles team to help spot and identify talents that can help the Super Eagles get stronger.

What else could I have called it?

Unnoticed special talent.

Brothers who are neglected despite their hard earned efforts to get to where they are will be happy they are not considered 'special talent', right?

TheGoodJoe:
What do you know about selection to know about injustice and corruption. All over every World Cup list released, there are players dropped that drew eyes. Heck, there was a protest in Brazil for the dropping of Romario for one of the World Cup squads of Brazil.

You are not on a crusade against corruption or injustice. You are on a crusade against young men working hard to fly our flag high for the World to see.

Any one who watched Kelechi Nwakali against Atletico Madrid will see that he is something Special in the making. The coaching crew deserve praise for their foresight but know, it is corruption to the Mr. Fight against corruption.

Forgetting that Salisu Yusuf has been in the National team Operations for a while and there was a time the Olympics, U20 and U17 teams camped in the same Venue. It did not occur to you that the coaching crew might have noticed we have something Special in K. Nwakali and decided to support him. Also, it is clear we need such quality in the Super Eagles in the near future.

But no, you must fight corruption and cultism.

If it's once, no problem but it has been the norms hence I see it as injustice and corruption when you allow some players to fizzle out and begin to breed some set of players.

TheGoodJoe:
I said, you are in no position to make that final decision. You are free to make your suggestion and opinions. You can even criticise but you are not in position to make a ruling. You d not know or could ever predict the kind of performance K. Nwakali gave against Atletico Madrid.

The coaching crew got that right whether you like it or not.

What stopped Nwakali from performing in the Eredivise before he was sent back to the second division?

How could we have known if those that performed better than Nwakali in Europe will do better than Nwakali if given the chance?

TheGoodJoe:
Kelechi Nwakali is an identified special talent and if the coaching crew decides to look in to support him, I doff my heart to them and they earn my respect. When Iwobi made his debut for the Super Eagles, do you think they were no players playing regularly in clubs that would have gotten the nod ahead of Iwobi. However, his blending with the team, securing his allegiance and development with the team was a Priority. He got the nod in a crucial tie.

Maybe you have not heard the saying that football is not mathematics.

Yes! Others doing well are useless talent. What a country filled with biased mind. Ride on.

TheGoodJoe:
Start a campaign against them. Not stating it. Iheanacho and Kelechi Nwakali is a distateful campaign. Not a statement.

Oga! Nwakali doesn't deserves to be in the National team ahead of those who performance better than him this season.

There would have been no problem if he was doing well but that is not the case.


Oga! Where were you when I rubbished those aforementioned players?

Bias dey worry you?

TheGoodJoe:
Uzoenyi was magical in the CHAN. His inclusion in the 2014 World Cup squad was well earned. Anyone who watched him in the CHAN under Keshi, will not blame Keshi's choice of carrying him. We are talking of a player who took a blow on the field, passed out, revived on the pitch and continued playing.

That is how passionate the guy was for the green white green Jersey. He was dropped from the final list but Echiejile's injury gave him the chance to make it.

Him not blossoming does not make the choice right. Heck, an experience Yobo had problems in the same mundial.

Del Piero was the most lethal finisher in the Champions League in 97-98 season but flopped on the big stage in France 98.

Even big players like Messi Flop in games.

How did Stephen preferred Uzoenyi to Sone who was magnificent with Rangers?

TheGoodJoe:
Every Super Eagles player is family. You can complain about inclusion or dropping of a player. However, going on a crusade against every thing that breathes in a Super Eagles Jersey is disheartening and sickening.

I am a big and open fan of Alampasu. I have criticized the handling of his case. Even complained about his exclusion in the Atletico Madrid game. But, not mounting a sickening campaign against every thing.

.

Going on a crusade against injustice and corruption.

You are sleeping fine in your house but the day this country go explode due to injustice and corruption, na dat you go regret say you for in your little way help the country get Solutions.

Martz101:
did i take uzoenyi to the nations cup?

I'm i keshi??

anyone saying you are not a tribalist is conservative with the truth, why is all you argument about one set of people and you are always defensive about some other set of people.

you need to slow than forgiveness

Oga! Uzoenyi wasn't good enough but you justified his inclusion. EOD

Face that fact.

TheGoodJoe:
I will like to see the day you say the same of a Yoruba player.

Where were your blind eyes when I crucified the coach for calling average Aaron Samuel to the national team and even calling him bench warmers association?.

Oh! Your biased mind didn't tell you I said Lokosa was not good enough?

Where were you when I said Kayode Olanrewaju.. yes... Kayode olanrewaju was not good enough for the Super Eagles at one point?

I even rubbish him here then. You blind that time.

Where were you when I said Babatunde Michael na corruption e take enter national team?

Oga! You are biased. Face front. Abeg.

TheGoodJoe:

Stop running down players to make your point. Tell why you want Kayode in the squad and let those who feel Nwakali Kelechi should have made the team support theirs.

There is no need creating venom in the midst of a family. We should care for all. You pollute minds when you try pitching one against the other.

Do you mean the family with two faced double standard?

The ones quick at calling you all kinds of names to drive a point.

Oga! Advice dem first or face front. Thanks in advance.

TheGoodJoe:

Stop running down players to make your point. Tell why you want Kayode in the squad and let those who feel Nwakali Kelechi should have made the team support theirs.

There is no need creating venom in the midst of a family. We should care for all. You pollute minds when you try pitching one against the other.

Oh! I see. Where were you when some players were ran down here just to prove a point?

Oh! You were in Jupiter.. I mean out of Galaxy!?

Nwakali doesn't deserves to be on the list in the first place. Fact.

komekn:
AT THE CRUX OF THE MATTER

But they want it swept under carpet.

Martz101:
everyone that watched Nigeria league will tell you that Uzoenyi is a very good player...keshi taking him over Aluko was his choice which i don't accept.

forgiveness is all your argument going to that direction, always comparing your player to others. Aluko was very fantastic but keshi dropped him just like he dropped ideye and so many other boys.

so one here said kayode will make keshi team to tell you how people are discrediting this good man Rohr.

Was Uzoenyi not the one that flopped big time in the AFCON?

Oga, where is Uzoenyi today?

Mujtahida:
I'm not supporting him stylishly. There's no need to be covert. If I support him I will do so openly and there's no rule against that is there?

Read carefully and don't jump into hasty conclusions. Didn't you read my response to realpoacher?

Forgiveness has facts to support his allegations. Did you read me say he is right or wrong in his allegations? All I'm saying is that instead of attacking his person rebut his claims with facts. How has that become stylish support. Make una dey read carefully abeg.

And did you not read me telling him to rest the point regardless of whatever the facts are? While I tell forgiveness to quit it, you too should quit this gang mentality cos if it were not gang mentality how can you come up and say I'm supporting him stylishly. No wonder he's accused of being tribalist when many read and conclude superficially. Didn't you read Joebie bending towards forgiveness? Why? Because of the Facts (interpretation of those facts might differ but you have no monopoly on how to interprete it and that's why I say answer his claims!!!)

Disprove his case has become stylish support. Na wa for you

Simple and short. GBAM