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femianski:
Joel obi too

Joel Obi performed well in the Gwg before he went on sabbatically due to injures.

goldfish80:
I think you should define what you mean by calling someone a "nobody" because the William you mentioned was well known in Europe while at Shaktar Donesk.
William, Douglas costa and Fernandinho were part of the Shaktar team that dominated the Europa cup and caused lots of upsets in the champions league, William was not an unknown when Chelsea got him.

Salah was an upcoming 21-year-old who was earning good reviews around Europe. He was a highly sort after by various clubs at the time thats why he cost Chelsea 12 million.

Moses have worked with many top class coaches in his career including Rogers, Mourinho, Martinez and Conte. If it will take only Simione, Guardiola and Klopp to get the best from him, then maybe he is not that good after all.

I mean they were no World class players and were not in the top 20 best players in the world as at the time they came to Chelsea. That is my point.

Is it not the same Mourinho that sent Salah, Kevin Bruyne, Lukaku and other talents packing from Chelsea after they flopped under him?

Victor Moses was injured under Rodgers but seriously, is Rodgers a top class coach? I am just asking.

Do you know it was under Martinez, Victor Moses was rated the best dribbler in Europe and it was under him he was bought by Chelsea? Even Martinez told the world Victor Moses was very good and needed to develop before he moved to Chelsea.

Is it not under Conte Victor Moses was nominated for Apoty and BBC player of the year?


Simione, Guardiola and Klopp will improve Victor Moses and could make him more better than Salah.

In my own personal opinion Victor Moses is more talented than Salah but Salah is more refined and matured. That's all.

goldfish80:
SAlah was not a nobody so to to speak when Chelsea got him from Basel. I believe Chelsea got him from the Swiss club after he ran rings round their defenders in the Champions League, he scored 3 times against them I recall.

Also prior to his signing, he was already an important member of the Egyptian national team with 14 goals in 17 games. He was indeed one of the rising stars in world football that's why Chelsea paid £12M for him not £1M. Also they saw him as a replacement for Juan Mata.
I saw him play for Basel in the champions league and I must say, I enjoyed his game.

I spoke as a Chelsea fan. He was nobody when he came to Chelsea. He was no Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar etc.. Just so so player.

His case is not different from Williams who was bought from Shakhtar Donetsk after he shined against Chelsea. Can we say Williams was somebody before he came to Chelsea?

Maybe to some extent but the way people are portraying Salah before he was bought by Chelsea and his first season in EPL is not the truth.

Victor Moses was far better than him then. That is my point.

Moses to me is not yet polished. If he meets Liverpool, Athletico Madrid's coach, or Guardiola, he could be better than Salah.

tbaba1234:
Samuel Kalu outshining Simon Moses again... If Rohr is watching these games, he must definitely see this.

How come you concealed the person who gave him the assist? I mean Simon Moses.

Danielnino00:
Oh...so it's the impression now...


I'm sure u had the same impression of Lukaku and De Bryune while they were at Chelsea...

I know Lukaku in Belgium before he came to Chelsea. He already made name for himself and when he played I knew he was good but Salah was nobody when he came to Chelsea.

Salah was out of place when he played for Chelsea. Not Impressive

Danielnino00:
Salah didn't flop in his first season in the EPL

he was just not given enough game time...just like De Bruyne and Lukaku... Everybody knows that Mourinho isn't the type of coach that has patience with young players...

I watched Salah in Chelsea and the impression was.... Not good enough.

kellycute:
so you still dey reply your own message lol. You are komekn.

Ok na. Make una dey deceive una self.

komekn:
The truth must be said no salt and pepper.

Na so e suppose be.

Dedebanky85:
CAF and Nigerians brought up this issue. I think only Nigerians must have voted for Moses in the polls. No sane human being would ever compare both as Salah is miles/kilometers ahead

We should also remember that Salah flopped in the same EPL with Chelsea the first time he came and you can't tell me Salah was better than Victor Moses then. Can you?

bengine:
Chief he does take on defenders in seria A, that is his style of play..he just didn't get enough minutes to showcase himself plus the rustiness of sitting on the bench affects a player confidence...that confidence is what he is gaining back at eredivise since he is getting more minute..

When Roma played against Psg in the friendly, he was taking on their defenders like crazy..watch the highlight again..this were champion league defenders ooo..I was in the stadium that day, I was surprised he had that kind of flair..this were psg first team defenders ooo..I was even surprised when I saw those defenders playing in champions league, at that time the only psg defender I recognised then was thiago silva and kurzawa..in fact Dani alves played on that day too..please watch the highlight again..

The point I'm trying to make is he is not afraid of any defender, that has his style, he has a directness about him..

My point is he doesn't take on defenders in Seria A the way he is doing it in Eredivise. Why?

gamaliel9:
Not enough opportunity...Those team he played for had more experience and quality strikers[ Dzeko,Bellottti,etc]. He was taking-on defenders ooo,seriously. I think Umar is under construction like a building or a road

I watched his games and I think the defenders were more experienced in the Sergio_A. Though I acknowledged he was not give a time but I didn't see him do that in the Seria A.

tbaba1234:
How many starts did he get in Serie A? He had to wait for Belleti to get injured to start a few games for Torino.. And he did take on defenders when he had the chance.

Bros, I was the first person here to clamor for Sadiq Umar's invitation to the national team and Olympics team because I followed his games bumper to bumper but I didn't see him do what he is doing now I the Eredivise in the Seria A.

It simply means Eredivise is not up to the standard of Sergio_A to cut it short and simple.

gamaliel9:
ooooo yes....i watch him through online streaming...he is always winning penalties and free-kicks at dangerous positions...its like this his contant fallings can used to our advantage..why not? We play according to our strenght..all is fair...Another thing i like about him is that he is not afraid to take on two or even three defenders and he doesnt turn back ooooo...very courageous...its been long we had his type of striker

Why was he not taking defenders in Sergio_A?

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elyte89:
But boss forgiveness, u knw say if KAYODE,AIYENUGBA,AJAGUN,MARTINS,EJIDE,ALUKO JOSH ONOMAH
WIVES/GFS dey on top pitch tonight


France female national team no go fit beat us ooo let alone of scoring 8goals

na you sabi.

elyte89:
8-0

na hand dem dey take pack am inside net?

This is serious. Na wa ooo.

elyte89:
5-0

E go better.

Martz101:
nobody ask you for your family profile, if you like be the first man on earth it won't make your dumb argument sensible

If you are not sensible enough to understand 'Martins is better than Ighalo and Kelechi' then how can you be sensible enough to make sane argument?

Oga, commot for my front make I see road, abeg.

Martz101:
bro you got nothing else to say, just shut it

Coming from someone who can't read to understand.

Mujtahida:
Agbonmagbe bank? If na Agbonmagbe bank una try cos the kind cases wey that bank get ehn, every lawyer must use their cases. It's now metamorphed to Bank

What case?

It is now WEMA.

Joebie:
I learned this in my childhood, that once someone proclaims themselves as humble they are actually proud. Humble people don't do that. Everything else u said does not score u any point.

Modified
Feel free to also add that someone from ur clan also built nairaland
or was the first to fly a plane. How has all that inspired you? Can't u also be inspired by Dankote or Orji Kalu for example? . Just helping u think. You don't score points that way.

Does that change the fact that your baseless and false accusation of me wanting all tribes to be represented basedon Federal Character has been rendered inconsequential and unfounded?

I am only telling you you don't have a point if you think I have the orientation of Federal Character. Do you understand?

Besides, I am not inspired by criminal and 419 mogul. Maybe, that is the problem with your orientation and I suppose it has affected your reasoning and thinking faculty greatly. No wonder you are using a known criminal as your source of inspiration. chai!

Joebie:
he is not a tribalist.. He wants all the tribes to be well represented in the SE.. Federal character kind thinz

The fact that you think all tribes can only get into the national team based on Federal Character shows how you disdain and despise other tribes but unfortunately you need Federal Character to survive in this country.

Danielnino00:
Eg: You

I hope you are not doing eyes service?

komekn:
I am very suprised at you making that kind of sweeping statement. See the bold.

Tell me one nation in the past 40 years that has won the world cup that was not ranked in the top 10

Tell me one club that has one tye champions league that it's league was not ranked in the top 10.

In actual fact in both permutations it's more like top 5 as opposed to top 10.

Have no doubt top players will play in top leagues and top clubs eventually.

Reality what is your reality. Tell me one not two just one please, player who has a rating that is not reflective of his standing that we have in thier current club.

Your descriptive diction (most times) is very sweeping and totally misleading. You seem to have little appreciation of this science of football analysis.

Of course there will be exceptions but broadly speaking rankings are indicative of the reality. That's why it's possible that a team that is ranked well below us can beat us and vice versa. After all what was south Africa ranking when they played us.

Point of correction, he doesn't know ANYTHING about the science of football. GBAM

Dedebanky85:
Are u listening to what you are saying? I don't know how we rationalize things and I have no bias for any player. I say it as it is. How would you say Ajagun has passed his prime when his mates are still very much active in the SE and we are hoping they invite the other. Omeruo, Shehu, Agbo and Kayode are all Ajaguns mate but you insist Ajagun has passed his prime. Hmmmm God is watching some of us.

Some people are not here to promote football, they are here to promote theirs.

Mickael2:
double standards bro. when its Nacho they say it was lack of preseason that caused it

They are not just objective my bros. I just tire.

Joebie:
he is not a tribalist.. He wants all the tribes to be well represented in the SE.. Federal character kind thinz

Let me boast a little.

I don't think as a boy who grew up in a family that boast of the first Professor of Medcine, the first Nigerian to earn BA degree abroad as an external student in Nigeria, first Nigerian to open an Indigenous Bank in Nigeria etc is interested or believes in Federal character but I am humble and despite no one.

I haven't even said anything.

Martz101:
Save the excuse for another day, maybe 2moro you will tell me he failed in shakhter because he moved mid season

Typical Nigerian, never agree he is wrong.

As you wish others, may God treat you likewise in double folds.

Joebie:
Your application of the rankings is flawed, that's the point. There is no point going on

Am I UEFA?

Are you UEFA?

There's nothing like 'your application' blah blah. UEFA rankings is superior.


Based on this, Shakhtar Donetsk is better than Ajax and PSV currently and the Ukrainian league is better than Eredivise. GBAM

Can Ajax and PSV beat Manchester City and AC Roma?
Bhuuuhahaha!

You don't have a point, Mr man.

Martz101:
kayode joined August,

Does it change the fact that it was after preseason?