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Mickael2:
my brother, you deserve a hug. I have been saying the same thing, what is the use of winning possession if you will lose it almost immediately? well they said it a because of his synergy with Mikel but then Casemiro came into the real Madrid midfield midway through last season and he still got along well with Modric and Kroos so synergy is just a lame excuse. Ndidi was playing like Busquets yesterday, even better I must add, so why is he sitting on the bench for a Lazio reject? No offence

Lazio reject!?

princesuko:
He Plays in a Poor team in a competitive league and scored 7 goals starting 21 games while the team top scorer who started 35 games had 10 goals last season. So his Goal ration is quite impressive for someone who doesn't play for an attacking side

Bros, leave them alone.

They think say na tap in na em e take score goals for em first professional football experience.

They are known for using double standard and I read to expose as many as possible.

ChrisKels:
Sir, honestly I don't rate Onazi. His wayward passes are way too infuriating. People always tell us how workaholic he is, but my question is the use of him winning possession and lose it immediately due his inability to give a simple pass? Worst of all he ain't disciplined and he fails to understand his role too. I rate Azubuike okechukwu even higher...

U saw younger Ndidi doing his job as though he was a veteran today right? That's what he does week in week out, if u had been following the Belgian league. That's typical of a good DMF

Commot Mikel, commot Onazi, Nigeria's midfield will fall yakata.

TheGoodJoe:

No one is degrading Solanke. He is a promising talent. He can become good. We hope he becomes good.

How can he become good if you want him to feel satisfied with 7 goals in 22 Starts?

He can do better.

We are saying for now, we have young players ahead of him. Solanke should keep working hard to become a top player.

Who are those young players ahead of him?

Generals03:
Kelechi Nwakali has played 4 games now for his club MVV maastritch. No assist, no goal nothing.

I know it may be too early to complain but I remember Iheanacho scoring goals and impressing during the few early games he got with mancity youth teams.

I hope not but we may have over hyped this boy beyond his abilities.

That Emmanuel Amunike's team is full of overrated players.

I will only single out 1 player(although I like Michael) from that set. The rest na poho.

How dey won the U17 competition is simply based on tik tak football.

Seriously, the most valuable player in U17 is finding it hard to play in a second division?

Nobody should give excuses that this is first professional football experience because it is expected here that you must perform like Messi in ya first professional club football. Gosh!

Na wa ooooooo! Dutch second division.

TheGoodJoe:

I used to have is not property

He still get am as long as he is Chelsea's 3rd striker.

Very soon he will be given the chance to prove himself and hopefully he makes use of it.

My fear is once he plays for Chelsea, he is gone hence we invite him before it is too late.

Napoleon55:
is not just the solanke vs iheanacho,most of his arguments r always like that,have u tried to argue with him,for instance try to tell him that the color of a ripe orange is yellow,n c what will b his reaction,

Give me one example.

TheGoodJoe:
What of Iwobi, a toddler to Solanke? That is beyond logical. I wonder who will take side with that.

#AnalyseWithConscience

When I said Iwobi is a Toddler to Solanke, I didn't blink an eye.

Logical it is very correct based on some statistics.

Iwobi was nobody in the English under age set up when Dominic Solanke was pulling the string.

Iwobi was dusted again by Dominic Solanke in club youth setup.

In all the youth competitions they both participated Dominic Solanke was better than Iwobi.

He was voted England Youth player of the year ahead of Iwobi who was never nominated eventhough he was an English youth player as at then.

He was chosen to play with the 3 Lions.

He has gone to play in Champions League ahead him.

Currently, he is a third striker in the fourth best club in the world.

Do you think he bribed his way through like dey do here?

Mickael2:
cool guy. Sorry though, it was the way you attacked me saying that I was on drugs that actually got me irritated, but we are cool, hopefully we will learn more from each other.
Cc forgiveness and TheSuperNerd, come and see how we managed our own conflict

Did you see me go emotional while we debated?

Mickael2:
if you want stats, I will give you the stats.

De Bruyne
16/17- 2 goals and 6 assists
15/16- 17goals and 16 Assist
14/15- 16 goals and 28 assists.


Hazard
16/17- 3 goals and 1 assist
15/16- 6 goals and 8 assists
14/15- 19 goals and 13 assists

Willian
16/17- 2 goals
15/16- 11 goals and 10 assists
14/15- 4 goals and 3 assists.

Now what are you still arguing?
De Bruyne has been consistently better than him(Stat wise) for the past 3 seasons, what are you still saying exactly?! I will keep on showing you all the stats you want till you agree that stat wise, De Bruyne has been better

Now let's see what there profile looks like.

De Bruyne

Club
Genk[83]
Belgian Pro League: 2010–11
Belgian Cup: 2008–09
Belgian Supercup: 2011
VfL Wolfsburg[83][84]
DFB-Pokal: 2014–15
DFL-Supercup: 2015.

Manchester City
Football League Cup: 2015–16

INDIVIDUAL

Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2012–13[85]

UEFA Europa League: Squad of the season 2014–15[86]

Bundesliga Player of the Year: 2014–15[citation needed]

Bundesliga top assists: 2014–15[87]

Footballer of the Year in Germany: 2015[6]

Etihad Player of the Month: September 2015,[88] October 2015,[89] December 2015,[90] April 2016[91]

France Football World XI: 2015[92]

Etihad Player of the Year: 2015-16[93




Now to Hazard.



Club
Lille[288]
Ligue 1: 2010–11
Coupe de France: 2010–11

Chelsea[288]
Premier League: 2014–15
Football League Cup: 2014–15
UEFA Europa League: 2012–13

INDIVIDUAL

UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12

UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2): 2008–09, 2009–10

UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12

UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,[289] March 2011,[290] March 2012

Premier League Player of the Season (1): 2014–15[291]

FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2014–15

PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2014–15

PFA Young Player of the Year (1): 2013–14

PFA Team of the Year (3): 2012–13,[292] 2013–14,[293] 2014–15[294]

ESM Team of the Year: 2014–15[295]

Chelsea Player of the Year (2): 2013–14, 2014–15[296]

Chelsea Players' Player of the Year (1): 2014–15[296]

UEFA Best Player in Europe Award: 2015, (6th place)[297]

FIFA Ballon d'Or: 8th place 2015

Bravo Award (1): 2011[19]

Chelsea Goal of the Year: 2015–16 vs. Tottenham Hotspur[298..

Chaii! The difference is clear.

AIG07:
THESUPERNERD! THESUPERNERD!! THESUPERNERD!!!
How manytimes did I called u?

Come over here...
*oya Say sorry to Sir. Forgiveness*
how dare you say an oldie is lying?
How many times have you heard that in such a society like ours, no matter what, you don't tell an elderly man that he is wrong-never.
But you didn't only do this in secret you went all d way to make t public. Haba.

I, personally won't take this from you.
You deserve some punishment.

*thinks on d kinda punishment he deserves*

Flogging, Kneeling down, ? No, he's already old enough to be a papa.

Since this is a sport section.
I'll suggest a 50press-ups as punishment.

Or what do you think house?

Bros, I no be elder like that ooooooo. I be young man.


Na Icon4s na em bi oga ooooooo.

Moreover, na debate but it seems he was emotional.

Oasis007:
I am very disappointed in some Monikers for taking side in the Argument between Supernerd and Forgiveness!

The Veterans ain't taking sides, and I think the Kiddos should have learned from their maturity.

Forgiveness is mistaking as a Bigot by Supernerd. It's obvious Forgiveness does mention Names related to Yoruba, but that ain't making him a Bigot.

The Names he has mentioned are Nigerians born outside the Continent. Forgiveness is simply a big Fan of foreign Born Players.

The other thing I noticed about him is; he's advocating for a national Team that respects Quota System. And he believes..... with the foreign-born Players, talented Players from other Tribes won't be an issue!

I hope Supernerd can retract the negative things he has posted to degrade the personality of Forgiveness, also I hope Forgiveness will seek for forgiveness from the Monikers he has offended. LOL!

hmm! I don't know where to start from but let first of all say thank you.

But I want to correct some things.

@ bolded (first one) I can say you are right on point.

Infact, that was what brought heated arguments in the Olympics thread btw me and many monikers here who are now enjoying the benefits of foreign player whom dey rejected at first.

I have been vindicated. Afterall, Iwobi na foreign breed. and he seems to be better than Iheanacho for now.


Please, take note that the list below was the first I posted before those heated arguments. Please, take note that the names cut acrosses all nations(tribes) and regions in Nigeria. Yoruba was not only the names there.
Iwobi even dey dere. when he was nobody but nobody took him seriously here because they can't see the future. The same are now bragging Iwobi and dancing shoki untop. What a wonderful world.

forgiveness:
List of foreign players that are eligible to play in Rio Olympics.

Goalkeepers: John Felagha (Eupen FC, Belgium, Sebastian Osigwe (SC Kriens)

Central Defenders: Noah Olawale Ojuola (St George FC), Godswill Elohor Ekpolo (FC Barcelona, Spain), Semi Ajayi (Arsenal FC, England), Nosa Egharevba (New York FC, USA), William Troost Ekong (DFC Dordrecht, Holland), Kelvin Akpoguma (TSG Hoffenheim Germany), Amstrong Chidi (Lefke Turk Kulub, Cyprus)

Right & Left-Back: Kingsley Madu (AS Trencin), Dominic Iorfa (Wolves FC, England), Chima Okoroji (Bayern Munich, Germany), Musa Muhammed (Besiktas, Turkey)

Midfielders: Moses Simon Ajala (AS Trencin), Moses Odubajo (Brentford FC), Musefiu Ashiru (FC Midtjylland), Kehinde Amoo Owoeye (KS Kastrioti Kruje), Gerald Chibueze Diyoke (HNK Rijeka FC, Croatia), Fred Onyedinma (Millwall FC), Chidi Osuchukwu (FC Braga), Lawal Abdulazeez Abidemi (Naftan Novopolofsk, Belarus), Anthony Bassey (Kas Eupen), Shehu Abdullahi (Al Qadsia Kuwait), Samuel Owolabi Olajide (HB Koge, Denmark), Kevin Effiong Bassey (SBV Wehen, Germany), Oladele Oshobe (Plovdiv Lokomotiv, Bulgaria), Anderson Esiti (Estoril Praia, Portugal), Samuel M. Ayinoko (Angelholms FC, Sweden), Sunday D. Abalo (Rio Ave, Portugal)

Forwards & Strikers: Michael Olaitan (Olympiakos, Greece), Paul Ebere Onuachu (FC Midtjylland), Imoh Fred Friday (Lillestrom), Lucky Omeruo (Birkirkara FC, Malta), Aminu Umar(Samsunspor FC, Turkey) Imoh Ezekiel (Alarabi SC, Qatar), Cedric Omoigui (Real Mallorca, Spain), Odion Goodness Ajayi (HNK Rijeka, Croatia), Isaac Succes (Granada, Spain), Atanda Sodiq Ololade (FK Apolonia FC), Kelechi Iheanacho (Manchester City, England), Fosayo Adarabioyo (Crystal Palace, England), Uche Ikpeazu (Watford FC, England), Alex Iwobi (Arsenal FC, England) Taiwo Awoniyi (Kalmar FF, Sweden), Musa Yahaya (Tottenham, England), Maxwell Onyewuchi Alozie (Beni Sakhnin FC, Israel).

@bolded 2, I don't believe in Quota system but I believe that double standard should not be used to invite players to be national team.


My only sin is pointing out the facts that has been hidden for so long. Unfortunately, it doesn't favour somebody.

Thanks

enomakos:
so you did't want the coach to invite your cousin solanke again?

Tell us how many matches and goals Nacho scored before he was invited into the Nigerian national team then I will answer ya question?

Hahaha!


Nonsense when fowl yanch begin open. Hehehehe!

TheSuperNerd:
Last I checked, there was never a time I lost.... But it's never about winning an argument for me.

It's about you watching who you term "fat liar".

It's about "Truth". So watch it....

Tammy was more prolific than solanke in youth football sef... (he played similar quantity of matches like solanke so why not use him then... Why nacho who played far far less)

Nacho played far lesser matches than both in youth football at man city and had a great goal ratio also.... so saying one is more prolific than Nacho when Nacho played less than 12 games and one of either Tammy or Solanke played over 30 games is not a true statement at all.

Trying hard to salvage something for your solanke.... How funny... *smiles*

You won only once and it is because I had no time to cross check his data.

I said that is 'a fat lie'. My statement was not active, it was passive.

We are talking about Iheanacho you are talking about Tammy.

Solanke was prolific than Iheanacho in youth club football. Simple.

Or are you saying if Solanke is playing in EPL he would have scored more goals than Iheanacho?

BascoVanVeli:
Tell us a little more about the lad. I am sure u have some insight.

I only saw him once and the impression I got wasn't bad.

He can play on both back wings and he seems to love overlapping.

His records show he can also score.

But he needs to build his physical shape if he wants to play well against a physical attacker.

Anyway, I just want us to cap before he becomes another Dele and Alaba. Who knows?

TheSuperNerd:
KELECHI IHEANACHO 2015/2016 STATS AND FIGURES WITH MAN CITY

League games played - 26

League starts - 7

League Sub Apps - 19

Total mins amassed - 753 mins.

Goals scored - 8

Assists - 1

MOTM Award - 1

Cup games played - 5 (total)

FA Cup- 3

Starts- 3

Total mins- 270mins (I know he finished the Aston villa and Chelsea games... Not sure about norwich but I assume he does finishes)

Goals - 4

Assists - 3

MOTM award - 1


League Cup- 2

Starts- 1

Sub apps - 1

Total mins - 120mins

Goals - 2

Assists - 3

MOTM award - 1

Uefa Champions League- 4 appearances.

Starts - 0

Sub Apps- 4

Total mins - 73mins

Goals- 0

Assists - 0

...................................................................


Summary:

Nacho's Total mins overall - 1216mins

Nacho Total goals - 14

Nacho Total assists - 7


Nacho's Goal/min ratio : One goal every 86.9 mins..... (86.9mins/goal)


Some Sources:

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/289253/History/Kelechi-Iheanacho

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelechi_Iheanacho


SO MUCH FOR FORGIVENESS CALLING ME A FAT LIAR

Hehehehe! you have won but na for the first time.

Iheanacho is more prolific than Dominic in professional club football but Dominic was more prolific than Iheanacho in youth club football. Hehehehe!

Mickael2:
they have won more league titles than Chlesea in the past 5 seasons, so who is currently bigger? They have finished above Chelsea in all but one of the past 5 seasons too

.
Is Manchester City among the top 5 clubs in the world?

Look very well, you might find it on the list.

Icon4s:


E remain Ajagun and Solanke

No e remain Brain Idowu and Ajagun.

tbaba1234:
EXCLUSIVE: Rohr Lines Up Dutch-Nigerian Ebuehi As Alternative To Musa Mohammed

Reports exclusively gathered by Owngoalnigeria.com by sources close to the coach of the Super Eagles Gernot Rohr, has it that the German coach is making plans to call up Tyronne Ebuehi.

Ebuehi is presently one of the names under consideration as alternative to Musa Mohammed, who has been struggling to get games at Turkish side Istanbul Basaksehir.

20 year old Ebuehi plays for ADO Den Haag in the Netherlands, where he has made four appearances in the Dutch top flight league with a goal to his name.

Born in the Netherlands to Nigerian parents, his switch won’t pose most of a problem to Nigeria as he is yet to be capped by the Netherlands.

” The young boy who plays in the Netherlands Ebuehi, is seriously under consideration. He is doing well in a top league. Rohr is watching him at close quarters. Let me just say he could replace Musa Mohammed in the team” a source told Owngoalnigeria.com.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/10/20/exclusive-rohr-lines-up-dutch-nigerian-ebuehi-as-alternative-to-musa-mohammed/

Very good.

E bi like this coach dey read my comments for here?

TheSuperNerd:
DOMINIC SOLANKE 2015/2016 STATS AND FUGURES WITH VITESSE ARNHEM

League games played- 25

League starts- 21

League Sub apps- 4

Total minutes amassed- 1813 mins

Goals scored- 7

Assists - 1

MOTM award - 1

Cup games played - 1

Cup start - 1

Goals/assists - 0

Mins amassed - 90mins**

**I know he made an appearance** don't know if he finished the game. So let's leave out this cup stat shall we? (chalking off 90mins off Solanke's total mins for league and cup games)

......................................................................

Summary:

Solanke's total mins - 1813mins (didn't add the cup appearnace mins).

Solanke's total goals all season- 7goals

Solanke's Goal/min ratio - ONE GOAL EVERY 259 MINS... (259mins/goal)


Some Sources:

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/136459/History/Dominic-Solanke

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Solanke


(Next post shall be on Iheanacho)

Add the cup stats, no mago mago.

OdenigboAroli:
To be honest with you, I consider tribalism a mental disease. Now,when you brings it into football, you takes the cake.

Define tribalism?

And tell me how I brought it to football?

Endeavor to prove it with facts. Thanks

BlackAlbino6:
Amokachi Says Nigerians Pay NGN250,000 to Play for U-17
Written by Amos Joseph

Ex-international Daniel Amokachi has alleged that Nigerian youth are levied up to a tune of Two Hundred and Fifty Thousand Naira (N250,000) to be selected to represent their fatherland Nigeria at U-17 National team cadre.


Speaking at an event with the coalition of Civil Society Organisations, CSOs, operating under the aegis of National Support Groups for Good Governance, NASUGG, protesting in support of war against corruption in Abuja, as reported by Vanguard, the Bull as he is nicknamed pinpointed that corruption has eaten deep into sports in the country.


“My name is Daniel Amokachi. I have said I will support the movement, because in my field which is sports, corruption is endemic.


“Corruption has invaded sports so deeply that even in FIFA headquarters in Zurich, we saw how the world stood up and said.


“Enough is enough!” We saw how the president, Sepp Blatter was not spared. He was removed from office because integrity matters when it comes to the constitution.


“President Buhari is one who doesn’t take nonsense when it comes to fighting corruption. I concur with everything he says.


“For instance, in Nigerian football today, the youths, when invited to the national team, a coach will ask them to bring N250,000 each to get into the U-17 team when he already has the talent. If a person has talent, he should be allowed to showcase what he has in the interest of the nation.


It could be recalled that PageOne.ng recently wrote an article themed ‘Continued Biased Refereeing will kill Nigeria Football League’buttressing how the football federation in conjunction with the Referee body must take seriously the issue of referee to help the game.


Amokachi further noted “A small team cannot win the Nigerian league because all the people in Nigerian football are corrupt. If a referee is bribed and a match is won here, the match cannot be won there.


“The judiciary is not above the law. Mr. President is on a good path’’, he said.


Amokachi was former assistant manager of the Nigeria national football team and currently the manager of Finnish 2nd division side JS Hercules. It remains to be seen what this allegation will generate into both from the coaches who have at one point in time handled the National team and the Nigerian Football Federation itself.

pageone.ng/2016/10/19/amokachi-says-nigerians-pay-n250000-play-u-17/

I don say na wetin the last under 17 coaches do be that hence the numbers of average players in there teams.

Dem don one of our in laws like that.

Nigerian coaches.

Napoleon55:
how about u provide the stats urself,r u afraid u'll lose?

Why should I provide what I did not start?

Mickael2:
nothing wey man no go hear. With the best coach? Conte is the best coach? With the best players? I thought you were talking about Chelsea since, oh wait you are, so who are the best players? You wanna compare? Costa to Aguero? Atleast Iheanacho is easily better than Bats-whatever who is actually higher in the pecking order than Solanke. De Bruyne to who? Hazard? Willian? De Bruyne got injured and the Man City train came to a complete halt, so if you think that Hazard is better at this point in time, then sorry. Or will you compare Stones and Otamendi and even Kompany to old man Ivanovic? Calamitous Cahil? Bunny Luiz? Who! If I play at Chelsea and I am in the 3rd choice then I am worth nothing. Which games will he play? None. I don't want to mention Arsenal because Ozil alone is better than all their midfield combined, when you add Sanchez alone that one na die.

Wait sef, this isn't making sense to me, what are we arguing? Solanke played in a far weaker league and played more minutes than Iheanacho yet he scored less goals, what are we still arguing? Ok, Gbolaham Salami has scored 15 goals in the Finland league, he is better than Solanke.

Is Manchester City among the top 5 or 10 clubs in the world?

Look below and tell me the answer.

TheSuperNerd:
He shall be shown mercy afterwards..... This is his Judgment day..... A lotta people view this thread and I won't stand by and allow "a troll" ruin the vision the thread is tryinbg to propagate....

In the 48 laws of power by robert greene, there are times when you just gotta cut something off at the very root...

Sir Forgiveness.... Ready to see the big fat liar??

1pm no far.... Berra post those stats of solanke and nacho to show how solanke played lesser mins and save your head... Or I will....

And Terming Iwobi a toddler to solanke...?? Chaiiii... You need serious caning.

Iwobi made top 3 in European golden boy. Nacho made top 10. Even if you say but na public voting naa... Current stats nko?? Iwobi is Arsenal's highest assists leader this season... Chaiiii... Nacho is man city's 2nd highest assists leader with 3 assists (de bruyne has four I believe).

Forgiveness.... Your lie lie and blasphemous "ignoramus-laden" comments don full glass... Today na today...

You know the case is closed except you wan bring it on.

Icon4s:
Abeg show some forgiveness to forgiveness.

I have been forgiven tey tey, so I don't need his forgiveness.

Let him bring his stats. If I am wrong no problem I will humbly accept my wrong but I hope he reciprocate the same.

Icon4s:
Make i commot hand?

Me way wan seperate u from fight.
Ok o. My hand no dey o.

Fight!? my moniker says it all.

OdenigboAroli:
Hehehe... Icons know this even I know it that egbon forgiveness is a bigoted biased mind who sees everything through his tribal lenses. Dude needs to heal his mind....Already his reputation is online.

Go ask the Anambra guys about this moniker and they will tell you welli welli. Sorry.

Icon4s:
Maybe Tamara or Tamuno.

Oga, abeg commot hand for this matter. Thanks in advance.

But you are not even sure.

Icon4s:
See, this issue of "facts and statistics" is some times over-rated. If it is based on "facts and statistics" someone like Okocha no go come near Victor Ikpeba career-wise.

On the list of top 10 young players we voted for 2-3 weeks ago was Dominic Solanke there? As far as i can remember the counts Iwobi was in top 3.

And that same Iwobi is a toddler to Solanke?
Forgiveness, sometimes abeg dey argue with conscience.

Why Okocha no go come near Victor Ikpeba?

What are the things used to choose best players without statistics?


Of course, Iwobi and Iheanacho are good players who are lucky to be given the chance to prove themselves and they didn't disappoint by making use of the opportunities given to them.

We can't say they are not good if they were not given the chance because we know they are good.

So, seating on the bench for now doesn't remove anything from his talent.

After all, 'it is better to train with the best players and best coach in the world' (in TheGoodJoe's voice) hahahaha!

Abi no bi so una take tell me before when I said Iheanacho na bench warmer at the early stage of last season while Dominic Solanke was playing regularly for Vitesse?

Now, the things he said then is coming back to hunt him.

I no dey forgot thinks but I will always make sure I have evidence to back my claims.

We know Iwobi position was due to the irregularities exhibited by our people.

TheSuperNerd:
Have you no shame at all?? *smh*

You can't remember?? Chaaiiiii.... You're really not worth taking seriously....

The meaning of "Tammy" is totally irrelevant coz YOU NEVER EVEN KNEW THE LAD. I DID AND BROUGHT HIM TO YOUR VERY FACE.... *smh*

Go take a hike Sir Forgiveness... You are actually what I say you are. Stop spewing trash on this thread.... I'll be back to show you and others what you are so afraid of unveiling...

You are so quick to call people "fat liars" just to prove a point of yours.

Brother.... Watch that back of yours....

Prove it and tell us the meaning of 'Tammy' since you assume....?