Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between Soul And Spirit? by fortran12: 1:32pm On Jun 28, 2020 |
soul is yr mind, spirit the driving force, body, the suit that houses the force |
Islam › Re: Who Wrote The Quran? by fortran12: 10:56pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
ObaOfIgbos: It's like you're confused... Unfortunately, there's so little I can do to help your life. I don't know who "allah" is so, you can look elsewhere to find solutions to your problems. lol,I do not have any problems let alone need your help. Sorry to disappoint you. Take heart, Jesus love u. |
Islam › Re: Who Wrote The Quran? by fortran12: 7:34pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
ObaOfIgbos: Says what? You think that thing you have in your hand is what the Qur'an is referring to as Bible? Keep fooling yourself..  Then allah has failed cos he said he will preserve the bible |
Christianity Etc › Re: If The Sexual Urge Is Too Strong & You Are Not Married, Just Do This by fortran12: 7:32pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
skimena: I can't support masturbation or rape. Never. When u're Hot and you are not married. Just Read your Bible. Pray, sing praise and worship to God.
You won't even last 3 minutes before the urge will disappear. Why not just go and marry |
Islam › Re: Who Wrote The Quran? by fortran12: 5:44pm On Jun 26, 2020 |
ObaOfIgbos: Is your Bible complete? Your Qur'an says it is |
Islam › Re: Who Wrote The Quran? by fortran12: 11:13am On Jun 26, 2020 |
Dreyton36: The Qur'an wasn't written by no man or spirit It was written by Almighty Allah himself and sent down to prophet Muhammed (S.A.W) And its riddled with errors like that? |
Islam › Re: Who Wrote The Quran? by fortran12: 11:11am On Jun 26, 2020 |
Austeeenxx: It was written by Prophet Muhammadu Buhari (SAW); Allah's one true prophet. There was no complete Qur'an during his life time. |
Islam › Re: Who Wrote The Quran? by fortran12: 11:10am On Jun 26, 2020 |
MuslimHowto: Those who claim that the Qur’an was written by Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) have given him a different motive for doing so and can basically be divided into the following groups
- For Material Gain/ Power and Glory - To Unite the Arabs or to morally reform them - Epileptic Seizures or Self-Delusions
With Muhammad being perhaps the most well-documented man in human history, we can easily examine these claims and compare them to his life.
Firstly, the claim that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) wrote the Qur’an is not new. His own people made this claim. In response, to this claim, God revealed the following:
Say: "It is not for me to change it on my own accord; I only follow that which is revealed unto me. Verily, I fear if I were to disobey my Lord, the torment of the Great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)." Say: "If Allah had so willed, I should not have recited it to you nor would He have made it known to you. Verily, I have stayed amongst you a lifetime before this. Have you then no sense?" [Qur’an 10:15-16]
This verse is telling his critics to reflect on the fact that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) lived amongst them from forty (40) years before reciting the Qur’an to them while never showing any signs of inclination to poetry and themselves knowing that he was illiterate.
If he could not read or write, then where did these magnificent verses come from? Also reflect on the fact that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) is commanded in the verses above to “Say” twice. This is a command to make a certain statement to the people. One can find this command “Say” 332 times throughout the Qur’an. In other places in the Qur’an he is ordered to “proclaim”, “Glorify Your Lord”, “Prostrate Yourself” etc. So we ask is this how a man talks to himself or writes a book?
Also one must consider the fact that even before his Prophethood Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) was known amongst his people as “Al-Amin”, the trustworthy and the truthful. No one ever recorded a lie against him. Many Western historians agree with this analysis:
"If a man like Muhammad were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness." - George Bernard Shaw
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level." -- Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY , New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc ., 1978, p. 33
"Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him." - Diwan Chand Sharma, The Prophets of the East , Calcutta 1935, p. l 22.
"He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports." -- Bosworth Smith , Mohammad and Mohammadanism , London, 1874, p. 92.
"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?" - Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276 -277
"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher." - Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras,1932, p. 4.
"His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad." - W. Montgomery Watt, MOHAMMAD AT MECCA, Oxford, 1953, p. 52.
So, we ask the reader to reflect on the following: Is it logical to believe that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) who, until the age of forty and, as we mentioned earlier, was known to his people as al-Amin (The Trustworthy) and who is still admired even by Western scholars for his honesty and integrity, all of a sudden began to write a book that is unmatched in literary merit and that has not be matched by legions of the Arab poets and orators of the highest caliber throughout history?
Is it reasonable to say that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him), made a false claim and on that very falsehood trained thousands of individuals of outstanding character, integrity, and honesty who were able to establish the best human society that the world has ever known?
Source https://www.muslimhowto.com/2020/04/who-wrote-quran.html Mohmmaed's followers. They gathered all they could after his sudden death. That is why some parts are not complete |
Health › Re: COVID-19: Boss Mustpha Says This Is The Right Time To Lockdown by fortran12: 10:12am On Jun 26, 2020 |
Ogbuu101: Ask any health worker you know, the cases are rising so fast. People are dying daily. Was there any time people stopped dying daily? |
Islam › Re: Ruling On Raping by fortran12: 10:09am On Jun 26, 2020 |
There is no consequence |
Health › Re: COVID-19: We May Be Counting Bodies In Hundreds In Next 3 Weeks - Boss Mustapha by fortran12: 9:36am On Jun 24, 2020 |
leonard509: enough to know that praying alone for oneself is selfish! there is no rule that says u must pray for everyone, at least she prayed for her family memnebers |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 10:01am On Jun 23, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 12:47am On Jun 23, 2020 |
Janosky: Bros, why do you claim that Jesus was LYING to you @ John 3:16-17?
What of Revelations 3:5,12 ? Is Jesus Christ LYING to you?
Cc: Fortran12 John 3 vs 16 - Jesus was talking to Nicodemus so how do you think he would have explained to him? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 12:41am On Jun 23, 2020 |
AntiChristian: O thanks! When spirits talk another spirit comes out?
 What does that mean? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 5:14pm On Jun 22, 2020 |
AntiChristian: So as God dey speak na Jesus dey come out?
So whenever God's spirit goes out, God is incomplete. You know God is not a. Human being so human laws don't apply |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 11:41am On Jun 22, 2020 |
AntiChristian: Where is the word in the said verse? And in that verse does the spirit of God mean the holy spirit? God spoke- his word His spirit hovered above the waters Same as u- you have a body soul n spirit |
Health › Re: COVID-19: We May Be Counting Bodies In Hundreds In Next 3 Weeks - Boss Mustapha by fortran12: 3:14am On Jun 22, 2020 |
leonard509: leave him/her, VERY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.
SELFISH AS FVCK! what selfless act have you done? |
Health › Re: COVID-19: We May Be Counting Bodies In Hundreds In Next 3 Weeks - Boss Mustapha by fortran12: 3:13am On Jun 22, 2020 |
neurosci: So, you only care about your family and you, and all the genuine body of Jesus? How about the rest? Are they not God's creation? it does not work that way, you are only responsible for yourself, not the whole on mankind |
Health › Re: 661 New COVID-19 Cases Reported, 137 Discharged, 19 Deaths ,June 20 -2523 Tested by fortran12: 3:09am On Jun 22, 2020 |
nengibo: i didn't say anything like that lol, thats an indirect meaning |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 12:46am On Jun 22, 2020 |
AntiChristian: Now show us where three in one God exists here! God , his spirit , his word |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 8:33pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
g AntiChristian: Kindly show us one place where the three Gods in one day so! In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” Gen. 1 |
Health › Re: 661 New COVID-19 Cases Reported, 137 Discharged, 19 Deaths ,June 20 -2523 Tested by fortran12: 7:39pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
uuzba: Check your phone. Settings -> Google settings THEY have put something in your phone its just Google, its not on your phone, its cos you have a google account. |
Health › Re: 661 New COVID-19 Cases Reported, 137 Discharged, 19 Deaths ,June 20 -2523 Tested by fortran12: 7:30pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
nengibo: Its not going to work most of the cases are people working in the oil industry, who have waiver to move freely during lockdown stock their houses with food paid for by sand right? |
Health › Re: 661 New COVID-19 Cases Reported, 137 Discharged, 19 Deaths ,June 20 -2523 Tested by fortran12: 7:27pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Confirmedzombie: I must warn the FG now to declare a Total Lockdown in all states of the federation or face our wrath.
The cases keep increasing tremendously and FG are keeping quite.
A two months total lockdown will help us defeat this deadly virus.
Our people are dying day by day. Enough is enough.
All churches, mosque all borders should be shutdown.
Let everyone stock their homes and remain indoors.
We will vent our wrath on the FG if a total lockdown till further notice is not declared by tomorrow Sunday.
Enough is enough talk for yourself |
Health › Re: COVID-19: We May Be Counting Bodies In Hundreds In Next 3 Weeks - Boss Mustapha by fortran12: 7:24pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
sigiyaya: Did you notice how f00lish you sound  if it works for him, its a free world |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 5:09pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
AntiChristian: Where did the trinity God say this? Its all over the bible. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Simple Biblical Prove that Jesus Is NOT God by fortran12: 12:08am On Jun 21, 2020 |
AntiChristian: God knows everything but not Jesus and the Holy spirit.
The Bible as it is preached today says Jesus is God. But from time immemorial we belief God is omniscient i.e. He knows everything. The Bible testifies to this:
Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding is infinite. (Psalm 147:5) For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.(1 John 3:20) Known to God from eternity are all his works. (Acts 15:18)
And there are other verses of that speaks of God being Omniscient. Premise 1: God is Omniscient (All-Knowing)
Is Jesus God? In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He (Jesus) was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.… The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.John 1 vs 1-3
"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"John 8:58 I and my father are one. John 10:30
Premise 2 Jesus is God
But Jesus is not omniscient But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36
Premise 3 Jesus and the Spirit do not know the hour.
Conclusion: Jesus is Not God.
QED.
NB: Please attack the message not the messenger! You proved nothin, Jesus never claimed to be God. You are debunking the wrong premise. God is trinity |
Health › Re: 667 New COVID-19 Cases, 274 Discharged And 12 Deaths On June 19 -(2504 Tested) by fortran12: 12:38am On Jun 20, 2020 |
bottlewater1: but where is lagos state heading to sef
can't the governor total lockdown in the sate So that people will eat sand for breakfast lunch and dinner |
Islam › Re: Sultan Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar Ask Muslims To Look Out For New Moon by fortran12: 1:02pm On Jun 19, 2020 |
Xposed2020: Thank for honoring yr covenant. So answer me If u read through my statement it shows i will not reply until we go to the intended agreement |
Islam › Re: Sultan Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar Ask Muslims To Look Out For New Moon by fortran12: 6:13pm On Jun 18, 2020 |
Xposed2020: Same here.  I don't know what you are scared of. If you can't honor your words its okay. But I won't break our covenant that i SWEAR with God Almighty my Lord & your Lord. No problem. You are blackmailing me. You clearly know you misunderstood what i said and cos it's to your advantage you are refusing to budge. You are taking about honoring my words. The words i said were u ask a question and i ask mine in return |
Islam › Re: Sultan Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar Ask Muslims To Look Out For New Moon by fortran12: 3:15pm On Jun 18, 2020 |
Xposed2020: I thought I also sent you screen shots & you did not object to my position when you respond to the first question. Besides, what are you afraid of? I told you that you misunderstood me. Am i not the owner of the idea? How can you be defining what i originated. When you are ready to go as i intended let me know |
Education › Re: Why Lagos Can’t Reopen Schools Now – Sanwo-olu by fortran12: 9:40am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Hemanwel: I think it is commonsensical for Lagos not to re-open schools now because of the increase in the number of cases of the disease. Why should they re-open when the virus is still ravaging?
If not for the irresponsibility of our government, the whole country ought to still be in total lockdown. While people eat fresh air for breakfast lunch and dinner |