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Christianity Etc › Re: Shouldn't You Guys Just Let Some Religious People Be? by frank317: 9:16pm On Apr 25, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
lmaooo !!!! Nailed it scatter grin
Keep on encouraging him to reach the highest level of stupidity....I have e seen ur aim is to ensure he becomes a complete slowpoke.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 7:52pm On Apr 25, 2017
shadeyinka:
You are!!? LOL
Your great is your blindfolds


Two fish were swimming when they saw a piece of meat dangling before them. The younger fish darted toward it with an open mouth. The older fish cried out, “Stop! You can’t see it, but there is a hook inside that meat. It is connected by an invisible line to a pole outside the water. There is a man holding the pole. If you eat the meat, the hook will catch in your jaw and the man will pull you out of the water. He will cut you open with a knife, roast you on a fire and eat you. Then he will throw your remains to his cat.”

The young fish stopped. The two of them swam away. But when the young fish was alone, he thought to himself, “Let me investigate for myself how accurate these claims are.”

He went back to the meat, swam around it, above and below it. He swam as far as he could in widening circles around the meat. After a long search, he said to himself, “I’ve looked far and wide, and I haven’t found any sign of a man, a pole, a knife, a fire or a cat. In fact, I’ve found no trace of anything outside this water we live in. These must just be stories.”

He went back to the meat and ate it. The hook caught in his jaw, he felt himself being yanked out of the water. He saw a pole, a man and a knife, but at that point his knowledge was useless.

LESSON: So is the TRUTH of the Endtime. Some of it is beyond our comprehension. Many people can neither see Hell fire nor Satan who is enticing them with sin and worldliness. Beware! There is DEATH in the POT.
May God let us heed to the truth in John 3:3-7, 1 John 3:8-10 while it is useful to us. Amen

May mercy & grace meet you in Jesus Name I pray.
Nice story but u made it sound like the hook that killed the fish was invisible... What is it God really hiding? He is the creator what stops him from being clear?

Funny u think urself as the senior brother in the story.... Yet you run round and round and can't reply my questions.

And what makes u so sure u are not the little fish in that story... I think u are.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 2:42pm On Apr 25, 2017
shadeyinka:
I don't blame you for your choice of 'Master'. We always submit to the one we think is stronger.

But since Light is the destroyer of darkness, I am glad I belong finally to the Light. Stay I'm your darkness if you will, its your choice
Sorry to burst Ur bubbles.... I am my own master. If that's too big for you and your God... I can't help u.

U are allowing false imagination to control u... That's quite sad.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 1:31pm On Apr 25, 2017
shadeyinka:
I used to serve your master till I got my Freedom and Independence from him. I know his tactics, you are just an errand boy...good luck.
My master must be greater than your master... is that why u are so afraid of him.

Oga, leave imaginary things, trust me, it will help u stop sounding like this. All the best bro...
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by frank317: 11:48am On Apr 25, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I'm starting to like this Stewie101 guy, don't let it get to your big head though tongue
When intelligence is speaking elders just nod their head and let out 'hmmmmm'
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by frank317: 10:21am On Apr 25, 2017
Stewie101:
How you manage to just reduce a complex and sectarian problem in a particular region that has strong historical and political underpinnings to just a problem of atheism is really appalling. You are definitely not a person I'd want to have a conversation with on any subject because you seem to be someone who would be inclined to lie and make uneducated and uninformed assertions and parade them as fact just to support your argument. I don't even know why anyone takes you seriously.
You should know how many times i have said this on this forum. The bad news is that the guy is grooming other fellow Christians who see him as a king to make unfounded arguments and hold them as facts. Felixomor comes to mind.

In all my life i have never seen one so dumb yet makes so much noise about it...
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 6:53am On Apr 25, 2017
shadeyinka:
If

What else can one expect of an errand boy! SMH
Lol...
Oga, you were giving off reasonable intelligence​ until u got cornered.
U haven't really given a deep thought to this foreknowledge/Predestination thing have u?

Explain to me why u think God, created me with a foreknowledge of all my actions. I mean every single one of them. I didn't even know myself but the creator has every knowledge of me before making me and giving me choice to do what he already knows i will do. I wouldn't do otherwise with the choicooo. Just what the creator knows. Please explain why you think this is different from Predestination.

The creator is even a good actor... He acts surprised,angry, at what he already knows. He sends u to talk to me to change despite knowing i will never change. He blames me for going to hell despite knowing i was doomed for hell even before creating me.

Explain this to me... Ask God to give u the wisdom to open my eyes.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 9:26pm On Apr 24, 2017
shadeyinka:
You have nothing to gain by your preachings.
You don't have any hope after this life, yet you spend your precious time convincing people to become like you.

Ignorance they say is bliss.

If you claim you know, leave us the ignorant ones at least to enjoy our lives and our hopes.

Do you know that a criminal never appreciates suffering ALONE. They always prefare to endure their punishment with others (even if they have to lure or trick others) into it.

Same with a person on his way to Hell...they need company. Some preach tirelessly to make sure that many are like them just like Lucifer their Father and Boss.

If you don't have anything to contribute, drop the thread.
U have hope because​ u believe in some meaningless jargon about an idea u made up in ur head... I don't jealous u.

U are now asking me to leave u, when u guys won't let us be. This is exactly how u guys disturb 'unbelievers' in every nook and cranny of the country, paying little attention to people's privacy. Now Ur shitty belief is being challenged and questioned u are begging to be left alone. Isn't it no longer ur God given duty to preach to the world? U want to preach but u don't want to be questioned.
What are u afraid of. Are u no longer in contact with the creator of the world?

A simple question, how is it possible that God saw my future and knows the outcome of my action even before creating me, yet this is not Predestination, u are running round and round.

Answer or keep quiet about ur fake Christianity.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 4:46pm On Apr 24, 2017
shadeyinka:
You can think whatever you will, the truth is unmovable.
I am the one who should be telling you this. Stop confusing people with meaningless, unreasonable, beliefs. If u had brought out ur time to think deep u would know that u have just been unreasonable.

What u are doing it trying to explain to me that God is a married bachelor. And u think because u have ascribed the title God to an idea in ur head, u can tell me that he is a married bachelor. You can tell me he sees the future, knows me before i was born,and created me to become what he knows, yet the choice is mine to become what God knows i will become.

And the saddest thing is u call this jargon the truth. may your God really help u. Amen.
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 1:20pm On Apr 24, 2017
Westmorland:
Pics of the accident scene plus hospital and my progress since then
Accident scene and healing progress is not a video proof yahweh healed u. The hospital scene is just a proof of doctor's effort.

I had an accident in 2013 that got my ankle broken. I mean, my feet went off my leg. Today, I can walk perfectly, thanks to the good doctors at national hospital Abuja. So was yahweh sleeping when the accident that put u in pains for months occur?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 9:55am On Apr 24, 2017
shadeyinka:
Point of correction: Your coming to the world wasn't by creation but by procreation through the choices your parents made.

If they chose to abort you, you will not be here.

If your Mum married someone else other than your Dad, you will not be here. Intact, you are here simply because one spermatozoa out of 6 million fused with a particular ovum which happened to the one ovulation pushedbout at that beautiful time.

Now that you are here, you make your own choices.

But the creator of time can reverse, pause or forward time to know what kind of choices YOU will ultimately make. Its your choice, but He has the privilege of "bending time".

Anyone who can understand the concept of time-travel in science fictions will understand this.
lol... God is no longer my creator? now we are getting somewhere

Now that you have accepted that God is not my creator... of course I will make my own choice. It has got nothin to do with any creator. Since you have already acknowledge the fact that God seeing my tomorrow has no significant effect in my life. Can we the conclude that his foreknowledge is COMPLETELY useless to us? Its meaningless and pointless to both God and us.

God's foreknowledge is like one having a skill that is usless to him.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 8:53am On Apr 24, 2017
shadeyinka:
Your problem is that you have ruled out the possibility of God knowing (Foreknowledge) without coercing (Predestination).
But that's exactly the point.

God does not need to predestin to foreknow any one.

You seem not to understand the power of choice.

A person can choose to be celibate or not
He can choose to terminate his life or go on living
He can choose to live a life of peace or violence
He can choose to be to be an Atheist or not

God respects your choice in life, but every choice has its consequence.

What you don't want to believe is that God can give humans the power of choice and still have a foreknowledge of what your ultimate choices would be.

Since you don't even believe in the existence of God it can't make sense to you. I understand.

It really doesn't have to make sense to you. It is sufficient that you know what a Christian believes about Jehovah God.
From the way u are replying me, i am sure it does not make sense to u either. U just believe all these by faith and that's what u should say rather than trying to explain the impossible.

U are human, i am human, neither of us is God(if he exists)

So try again and RESPOND to my posts.

Let me try again...

I understand choice, i understand u saying foreknowledge and Predestination are exclusive...

WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS GOD KNOWING EVERYTHING ABOUT ME, I MEAN, MY THOUGHTS, DESIRES, UPBRINGING, LIKES, DISLIKES, CHOICE, ASPIRATIONS, DESTINATION, MY FINAL END POINT, even before creating me and and after creating me i become everything he already know i will become AND STILL HE STILL CALLS IT MY FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 7:16am On Apr 24, 2017
shadeyinka:
But He knows that one of your grand children will be a wonderful Evangelist that will turn hundreds of thousands to Him. And you call that fraudulent?

If you were God and the above scenario is true, would you as God still create this atheist?
It's either u have difficulty in understanding a point or u are deliberately being dubious

What i call fraudulent is not God knowing people will turn to evangelist. Why are u changing my statement just to make suit Ur believe. I am being objective here.

Listen again...

Knowing my children will turn evangelists and creating them is like creating them to become what u know they will become. It's like creating them to be evangelists because u knew them even before creating them.

Already u don't expect someone u know will become evangelist to become an armed robbery becasue u created him with a prior knowledge of him.

Calling the fact that he became an evangelist, something u created him to become, freewill is fraudulent. It's fraudulent because u created him to be that way, how can it be freewill? It was already predestined because ur creating of him was guided by an already existing knowledge of him.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 12:35am On Apr 24, 2017
shadeyinka:
I am not misquoting him.

He is saying that since God has foreknowledge of everything, then he must have predestined everything.

I used to word exclusive to mean this:

That is God can have Foreknowledge without having to Predestinate.
However, the converse: Predestination must go with Foreknowledge.

I agree, the word exclusive is ambiguous.
U deliberately ignore the 'as a Creator' part and still say u are not misquoting him.

If before creating me, God knows that i, will grow up to become and atheist. He knows that i will go ahead and reject all biblical theories of him and he knows that i will go to hell, then he goes ahead to create me, isn't that Predestination? Isn't he creating me to become what he knows? Is he expecting me to do otherwise with my free will?
Having a knowledge of me before creating me and calling it free will is fraudulent.

If he was creating me without having in mind what i will become, perhaps all he had was assumption that i might be an atheist or Christian, then u can say the choice is mine. But with God knowing before even creating me, that means i am create to become what he knows.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Forbidden Tree In The Garden Of Eden? by frank317: 12:16pm On Apr 23, 2017
thesicilian:
God created man and gave him freewill, the ability to choose for himself. The tree itself was just a test, to see how man would exercise that freewill, wether in obedience or disobedience. Like when a lecturer sets exams after detailed lectures...
God who already knows man will fail decided to test man to see if man will fail huh? huh huh

Please Tell me, does Yahweh have mental problem?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Rapture Took Place On A Sunday:70% Left Behind by frank317: 9:50am On Apr 23, 2017
shadeyinka:
I am not insinuating that the Producers of BBNiger has any form of foreknowledge. I am stating the obvious:

The fact that you produced a Reality TV does not imply pre-choosing who the winner will be. Your claim is that since God produced the Theater of Man, He must certainly have doctored each persons act. No

Foreknowledge isn't Predestination
Predestination isn't Foreknowledge

Both are exclusive with respect to my God.

If you still have a problem with that, no problem its your choice and I can't change that.
You are deliberately misquoting him.

He didn't claim that since God produced the Theater of Man, He must certainly have doctored each persons act.

He said that if God has a foreknowledge of every man's act even before CREATING the theater of man then he must have predestined it.

Yes Foreknowledge isn't Predestination and Predestination isn't Foreknowledge

But both cannot be exclusive with God as the creator who already knows every out come even before creating.
Christianity Etc › Re: Putting Of Chains, Necklace, Beads Will Lead You To Hell.. by frank317: 8:31am On Apr 23, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
grin I'm not a terrorist but an Anti-terrorist. Check my threads.

Do you think prostitutes will listen to you when you want to preach to them while dressed like them?
So wearing earing makes on look like a prostitute... Have u even ever seen a prostitute?
Christianity Etc › Re: Putting Of Chains, Necklace, Beads Will Lead You To Hell.. by frank317: 8:28am On Apr 23, 2017
jonbellion:
Christians displaying thier idiocy this fine morning
Smh cry
I don't even blame the op,i blame the people who believe in the useless book written by ancient cattle rearers called bible.

This book causing serious confusion is what the creator wants us to believe it leads to him.... Can u imagine?
Christianity Etc › Re: Putting Of Chains, Necklace, Beads Will Lead You To Hell.. by frank317: 8:26am On Apr 23, 2017
Nutase:
FP for what. You guys just pick a scripture and twist it.
This scripture you quoted was talking about pride and we all know that God abhors pride. The scripture did not condemn jewelry of any form.

The op should continue
God's wrath is very close.
What he said was written in the Bible.why u de vex na? Abi u no believe Bible again
Sports › Re: Calabar Tragedy: We Tried To Stop Our Husbands From Going To The Viewing Centre by frank317: 8:10am On Apr 23, 2017
dejisky:
Some of the victims have the cable TV at home, they only choose to watch in d midst of fellow noise makers. I hate addiction to football.
So what are u saying... So going to watch football match in the midst of noise makers now a cause of death? Or is football addiction a cause of death?
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 5:19am On Apr 23, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
its like Arsenal being bothered about Real Madrid's lack of UEFA champions league trophies

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Oga, the thing weak me
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by frank317: 5:16am On Apr 23, 2017
OLAADEGBU:
Going by your logic we might as well conclude that all the effort of scientists in creating or inventing detergents and soap has been rendered useless since we still have dirty clothes and dirty people today. undecided
Are we still talking about God?
Watin concern scientist making soap with the creator sending his son​ to die for mankind?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Short Theory On Religion by frank317: 9:14pm On Apr 22, 2017
Lol.... Reminds me of people believing in hell without ever going there or knowing anyone that has ever been there.
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 9:05pm On Apr 22, 2017
felixomor:
Actually, its ur coherence i am concerned with.
Lol @ my coherence. Of all people, Felixomor is bothered about my coherence.... Wonders shall never end. So do u want to pray for me or operate on me... Doctor
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 8:34pm On Apr 22, 2017
felixomor:
Spell my moniker well na
LMAO grin
Ur identity actually matters to u...We are definitely making progress
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 6:14pm On Apr 22, 2017
CatfishBilly:
Make una free felixomor lightanddarkness, obinna58 and frank317, abeg. He's a "colleague" grin grin grin
Chairman, flexiomor can never in his wildest dreams be a doctor. Calling himself a medical doctor is a lie from the pit of Yahweh's​ hell. If flexi is a doctor then I am an astronaut.
Only his reasoning and argument gaan. I have never in my life seen such shallownesss.

Tell me his is a true Christian but don't tell me he is a doctor... I rather believe the moon is blue.
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 4:51pm On Apr 22, 2017
Westmorland:
Mumu of the highest order. I pray u don't die like one those the op mentioned. God saved me from a bike accident where I was unconscious for almost 24 hours.
Video or God saving u or...
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Pray For Pastor Tim Omotoso, by frank317: 4:48pm On Apr 22, 2017
stevebori7:
why did we always like to hear about the critisizm of the men of god, if truely u ar a christian dis is wat u should hear and shed tears for him and pray so that he wl nt perish.
This is not criticism it it an accusation. He is either guilty or innocent and if he is guilty he should face the law and be punished. If he is innocent he will go scot free. So what exactly re u praying for him for?
Christianity Etc › Re: My Debate With Athiests Around The World by frank317:
darichlife:
Mr Atheist I Want to have a simple debate with you.
I want the world richest atheists to come together and achieve this feat.

1. Create A Fly with a it's complete metamorphosis
2. Create a Fish with it's Complete Metamorphosis
3. Create a Bird with it's Complete Metamorphosis.
4. Create a Rat with it's Completes Metamorphosis.

If you all achieve this feat I will worship you all as my new God.

Instruction: Please don't use any material from earth it all belongs to my own God who created something out of nothing according to my believe and experience.
It's either you post a video of your God creating air or forever continue mumbling to yourself claiming you are talking to God.
Christianity Etc › Re: People Who Mock God And Died by frank317: 4:10pm On Apr 22, 2017
LightandDarkness:
One day we'll see you moniker associated with a sensible post, but it doesn't seem like today.
I am praying for him bro... I BELIEVE one day he will actually talk like someone who can reason. I am sure Yahweh can do it
Christianity Etc › Re: I'm An Atheist, But I Think God(in My Mind) Is Still Tryna Reach Out To Me by frank317: 4:01pm On Apr 22, 2017
felixomor:
They will probably tell you to commit more sins so as to overcome the "feeling"
There he goes again. Do u even read ur comments... It's like words coming out from an empty box

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